Utah Jazz notebook: Kyle Korver feeling better but not 100 percent

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  • Missing Korver
    Dec. 23, 2009 6:19 p.m.

    We need to give Korver a chance to get healthy again. He has a great shot&great form, but coming off the bench in general is not easy; coming of the bench after knee surgery is even more difficult! I know, I am doing itnow! Korver has to now regain trust in his knee. Something that proves quite difficult especially when post op. there is still pain. (Again, I know!) This alone will likely detract from his performance off the bat as part of his concentration will be on his healing knee. Anyway, once he is healthy more minutes would of course offer him more chances to shoot, drive, and be a threat something that should come back as his knee heals.
    I'll admit that he is by no means a peerless shooter but that does not mean he cannot shoot! His performances my be less than those in Philly but he is still playing ball and being a positive asset for the team on and off the court.
    If Jazz fans don't want him, gosh knows we could use him back in Philly! Don't take him for granted! He is a well-rounded, solid player!

  • bill
    Dec. 22, 2009 6:14 p.m.

    how many times can he get hurt this year the team could need him

  • Vegas
    Dec. 19, 2009 3:24 p.m.

    Korver moves more like a crouquet player or a volleyball player. Do you think there is anyone in the NBA he could actually stay with and guard. Jazz cop and Todd sure do like him though.

  • Miles
    Dec. 18, 2009 4:38 p.m.

    when miles shoots it goes in the basket,???? when was that oh clueless one,hey how old is yo momma,how`s she lookin?

  • Harpring is the best
    Dec. 18, 2009 4:31 p.m.

    thing that has happened to Jazz radio in a long time. He actually makes intelligent comments that you can understand. He needs a long term contract. Further, you can actually stand to listen to his voice.

    He is so much more knowledgable than any other commentator about what is actually going on during the game it is not funny. Hot Rod would make comments sometimes but usually he was careful. Harp actually talks about alternative moves that need to be made like timely timeouts, pace, match ups, defensive strategy, offensive plays.

    He is actually worth listening to.

  • rattler
    Dec. 18, 2009 4:26 p.m.

    Harpring talking more forces Bolerjack to talk less and that's a good thing. I've never known someone who talks so much without saying anything as Bolerjack.

  • Nevada fan
    Dec. 18, 2009 3:33 p.m.

    I am all for giving Korver a chance to show the fans just how good he is, instead of every one saying how good he is. The only thing I can say positive is that at the end of games when the Jazz are winning he is great to have on the floor for foul shooting, but that's it. So if his 3 point shooting does not pick up bundle him with Boozer (hate to see him go), Harping, KK, and the 2010 pick. That's should get some pretty good talent.

  • A Healthy Korver would be great
    Dec. 18, 2009 3:22 p.m.

    Let's wait until Korver gets healthy and gets his shooting rhythm back before we start comparing him to other players! Korver was a God send to the Jazz 2 years ago why all the bashing? He can help this team. You will never hear him complain....he stays positive and upbeat even when coming back from injuries.

  • Korver Watch
    Dec. 18, 2009 3:17 p.m.

    I'm just anxious to see Korver when he gets healthy. When he's 100% he is a real 3 point threat and all the NBA players know that even if some near sighted Jazz fans don't. Even tho the Jazz team does not have specific plays for the 3 point shot they still need the threat to spread the floor. I've seen 76er film with Korver shooting time after time from the 3 point range yes...even in clutch time. He can do the same thing in Utah given the chance.

  • Parris
    Dec. 18, 2009 2:53 p.m.

    Not a fan of Harpring on the broadcast.

  • Kover and CJ
    Dec. 18, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    are both very good experienced specialists who have different games. They are both valuable to the Jazz for certain situations and match ups.

    The big question is will they perform well if they play every other game or erratic minutes instead of set rotations.

    Mathews and Brewer seem to be adept at erratic play. Millsap is pretty good at it. Maynor so far is not.

    The Jazz need specialists who can come in cold and microwave a special situation. That is a special talent. I think Korver may be able to do that. CJ so far tends to be either very hot or just kind of there depending on the night.

    If the Jazz can get to a point where they can exploit match ups effectively and game plan for each team instead of just trot out the same old rotation they could be a very difficult team.

    Most coaches during the reg season just do the same old routine and try to win with it. They claim the NBA players need routine. College players do not need routine. Why would the prima donnas of the NBA require set rotations?

    Sloan needs some cooperation from the players.

  • Larry H.
    Dec. 18, 2009 2:21 p.m.

    Fire Ron Boone! Replace him with Harpring!

  • Harpring's great
    Dec. 18, 2009 1:13 p.m.

    I've really enjoyed Matt Harpring's commentary the past couple of weeks. I hope they keep him on permanently. He talks a bit too much, but I'm sure he'll figure that out and improve with time. His insights are unique because he's so recently removed from the locker room and the team; he really does have a good perspective on Jerry and his former teammates and everything they're doing.

  • rvalens2
    Dec. 18, 2009 1:08 p.m.

    People tend to forget that Korver was playing hurt last year. He just doesn't complain about it to the media.

    I for one am willing to give him a chance to get back in the shooting groove he had when he was first traded to the Jazz.

    Korver (just like Miles) needs playing time. Let's see how well he does over the next 10 games before tossing him on the trash heap of players who have been traded.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 18, 2009 12:54 p.m.

    Korver needs to not see the court, especially with mathews playing well. I really wish he would have opted out.

  • Miles
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:56 a.m.

    Other than Memphis, we take the fewest 3's in the league. Sloan doesn't like the 3. So why do we need Memo and Korver, who are one dimensional offensive players on the team? We spend 13 million a year for two guys who only shoot 3's. Makes no sense to me.

    Houdini, when CJ shoots, it goes in the basket. That is what you are suppose to do. Not like your buddy Korver, who misses on a regular basis. Korver does nothing to make this team better.

  • Okur vs Korver
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:53 a.m.

    The difference between Okur and Korver is how closely they are guarded. Half the time Okur is shooting all alone. Korver is never left alone, that is why he helps spread the floor more than Okur. Korver will always draw a defender, unlike Brewer when the Lakers were playing a 5 on 4 type of defense because they could care less what Ronnie B did as long as he wasn't near the basket.

  • Bashers Beware
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:46 a.m.

    Have to agree that Korver brings more to the floor than Miles. Miles does look for his own shot, but Korver always looks for a pass. Korver has great floor presence and is aware of the open man. Try to remember you negative posters, Korver had a wrist injury last season and now he's battling the knee. Korver has been in a class by himself with his 3 point shooting before his injuries. Now we just have to get him back on track and give him the ball. He is a clutch player but some people just live to critize for the fun of it! Korver adds a dimension to the Jazz that they need.

  • Wonder why
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    there are so many Korver fans and so few Miles fans? as was mentioned Korver does more for the team,plays within the team concept,while Miles is just looking to shoot,no defense no rebounds no assists,what we used to call a glory hog,that`s Miles,a GLORY HOG

  • re: really
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:17 a.m.

    "the dude can flat out shoot."

    Actually everyone on our team can shoot but last season he was not even top 50 for 3 pt % so as Sloan says we need "3 pt makers" not just "3 pt shooters".

    Then you said "Now, his numbers have dropped since he has been here in Utah"

    Well isn't that the point? He is not shooting that great in this system.

    You contradicted yourself...first he can flat out shoot and then you talk about how his shooting has declined.

    Good grief.

  • re:we need all of them
    Dec. 18, 2009 11:11 a.m.


    you said:

    "Okur maybe a better shooter from long distance, but not by much."

    08-09 season--3 point shooting%

    Okur .446

    That is a substantial difference!

    The difference is Korver is close to average and Okur was top 6 in the NBA last season!!

    Over the course of season that make a big difference.

    Not to mention Okur MAKES big shots and KORVER misses big shots. Korver makes 3's when we are ahead and misses them when we are behind. He is not a pressure performer at the 3 point line.

    You people just spout this stuff without any facts to back up your statements. Sure some comments are opinion based but shooting %'s are not!!

  • re: Really...
    Dec. 18, 2009 10:54 a.m.

    Agree 100%. Will add that Korver is going to go through the same adjustment period that every player goes through when coming back from an injury and/or surgery. Some pain.. that's obvious and I think he knows that. The bigger issue is the mind, and learning to trust the knee.

    Miles... reality check: CJ is not one of the Jazz's best defenders.

  • Miles
    Dec. 18, 2009 10:17 a.m.

    Dwill is an inferior defender for a point guard. AK is too slow at the 3. Boozer is better playing the 5 on defense and Okur can't guard a single player in the league except Yao and Shaq cause they are slower than him.

    Miles, Matthews and Brewer actually are good defenders. It's their team mates that make them loook bad.

  • Old Port
    Dec. 18, 2009 10:15 a.m.

    Whatever....he just the Jazz poster boy for the Twilight crowd.

  • Really...
    Dec. 18, 2009 10:02 a.m.

    Before you bash on Korver understand this, the dude can flat out shoot. Now, his numbers have dropped since he has been here in Utah, but thats partly because he doesnt get as many minutes on the court as he did in Phili. Also, realize whether his shot is on or not, other teams need to keep him in check or he will start heating up. Just his presence on the floor opens the lanes for Brewer and Boozer.

    Dont under-rate his defense either. I'm sick of people saying he is such a poor defender. He cant really guard players one on one, but he player great team defense. He's a smart ball player and knows where to be to help his team. Remember Jeff Hornacek, he was the exact same way.

    I for one, would like to see the Jazz play him a little more when he gets healthy again. I really like Mathews game, but its nice to have a pure shooter on the floor.

  • We Need All Of Them
    Dec. 18, 2009 9:45 a.m.

    Okur maybe a better shooter from long distance, but not by much. Seriously we need all of the good shooters we can get. Defensively both Okur and Korver have the same problem. Quick athletic players blow right by them like they do with A.K., Boozer, Williams, and Miles. So where does that leave us? In need of some athletic length that can rebound and run the floor thats where! We haven't got 1 shot blocker on the team either unless with his limited minutes Fess fits that role. Milsap does against smaller post players, but bigs shoot over him also. We are in need of a few player trades before we can be a serious contender.

  • Korver
    Dec. 18, 2009 9:44 a.m.

    great to have him back,we need his all-around play,now we can put Miles on the bench where he belongs

  • Korver
    Dec. 18, 2009 9:07 a.m.

    This guy should not be getting minutes.

    Seriously, he is too slow when both his legs/knees are working at full capacity!

    Bench this dude--he can't defend a stationary object anyway! He should be at 100% before he sniffs minutes.

    Oh ya, don't forget, last season he was not even in the top 50 three point shooters for the league so all you clueless Jazz fans who climb on here and blather on about "how great it is to have him back" and what a "sharpshooter" he is.....SAVE IT. It is just not true.

    Okur is a FAR better 3 point shooter than Korver and its really not even close.

  • Nice
    Dec. 18, 2009 8:04 a.m.

    karate chop on Gasol.