High school basketball: Emery's big shots help Lone Peak edge Lehi

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  • Basketball Fan
    Jan. 13, 2010 11:52 a.m.

    It is a parents choice whether to hold their child back a grade or not. These parents are very capable and know what is best for their child. To begin speaking poorly of these parents is immature and uneducated. Many of these athletes were held back from attended kindergarten for a year and therefore it had nothing to do with their ability in sports. Many children are not ready for school intellectually and socially when they are suppose to begin school so their parents chose to hold them back to help them be better prepared. Therefore it is not your job to accuse their parents of breaking any "rules." Age does not affect an individuals athletic capabilities until they are an adult (20) so therefore the age of these young men does not matter. Accept an athlete for their abilities and give them the recognition they deserve.

  • Everyone thinks they know.
    Jan. 13, 2010 1:26 a.m.

    Talon has actually played up most of his days in sports, he played on my freshman little brother's football team for awhile back in like 6th grade, then he decided to play up a grade in sports. So even if he was supposed to be a 10th grader it doesn't matter, because he is playing with the 10th graders and has been playing with that age group for awhile. Same with basketball. Perhaps parents actually do know whats best for their kids. hmmm that's idea...

  • WE
    Dec. 24, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    just for the record, Talon Shumway is still 15 and won't be 16 until months after the season ends. also he rarely plays his own grade so all you complainers can get over the fact that the players that are just a little bit older like Jordan Darger and Talon Shumway are the best players with nick emery. They don't deserve to be criticized just because they are good at what they love. next year Shumway will be starting basketball and quarterback for lone peak so age will have no affect because he'll still be one of the youngest.

  • plyxply
    Dec. 19, 2009 9:59 a.m.

    Lewis must be a super coach, the list above of his accomplishments are amazing. Looks like I'll be attending some LP games this year and for a few years to come. With Emery and next year TJ Haws, look out everyone, these guys will be tough to beat and congrats to Coach Lewis!

  • Re: big daddy
    Dec. 17, 2009 9:56 a.m.

    I agree about the holding back! There is no rule, it is not cheating! It is a decision and it perfectly acceptable! It is pretty much commonly accepted that males mature later than females and they benefit from the extra maturity! Regardless of sports!

  • big daddy
    Dec. 17, 2009 9:02 a.m.

    Lehi had their best on ball defender guarding Emery. He's a quick guard who can stay on most guys like glue. IMO, he is one of the best defenders in the state. Two things: I've been watching Emery in AAU tourneys for three years..he is just that good and on top of that, had an unbelievable night. Secondly, the Lehi coach never gave the kid guarding him a rest all night. If you never substitute you are putting your team at risk in the 4th quarter. Lehi gave up a 5 point lead with a minute or so to go IIRC.

    Regarding holding kids back - People need to not whine so much. It's not attractive for a male.

  • Hmm
    Dec. 16, 2009 3:27 p.m.

    Didn't see the game. Just looking at the box score. Looks like Lehi choked more than LP won... their previous lowest scoring quarter was the 1st with 11 and they only scored 4 in the fourth??? Lehi shot 57% from the free throw line!!! If they'd shot 67%, which isn't good, they would have had OT! Just an observation (from watching Emery play this summer against a GOOD defender)... if Lehi had an decent defender on Emery, they win that game!!!

  • CW
    Dec. 16, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    The only reason that Lone Peak won that game was the Emery kid. You can't teach natural skill, and that kid has alot. However, the Pioneers played harder and have more heart, and I know they would be able to win in a rematch.

  • What a joke
    Dec. 15, 2009 5:13 p.m.

    All you that are crying about whether someone held their kids back for sports. Shut up. You really have no idea why that child was held back. Most boys are better off, if held back. And that has nothing to do with sports. The question I have for you is why are you so upset with parents of these boys? Is it because your children are not very good at sports?

  • RE: college
    Dec. 15, 2009 9:16 a.m.

    He could go there and be a back-up, or he could go to BYU and be a star. But I guess he will have his pick.

  • re: 2012
    Dec. 15, 2009 9:05 a.m.

    You are right Loveridge and Pryor are Sophmores and not freshman but they are great players. The class of 2012 do have other players who are just as good and talented too. With all this talk you people forget that these boys are only kids and should not have their childhood taken by crazy people or parents who live through them. Oh and FYI all these boys are good friends and they get along well and they do hang out together every once in a while and if you were to ask them who is the best out of them all they all would say," Who cares I just want to play basketball". Everyone please relax

  • college
    Dec. 15, 2009 7:15 a.m.

    Nick Emery is way to good to stay at home and go to BYU He belongs in the ACC Duke or NC

  • 2012
    Dec. 15, 2009 12:16 a.m.

    Loveridge and Pryor are sophs and not freshmen. The class of 2012 has very few good players in it.

  • all this talk about 2013
    Dec. 14, 2009 11:19 p.m.

    dont forget about Jordan Loveridge, and Jordan Pryor at West Jordan High school they are the same age as these studs at lone peak, Loveridge and Emery will fight it out for the best player in the state the next coulple of years and Byu is after both kids so once again byu could get the best kids in the state for there classes again, come on utah get some of these local kids

  • Brett
    Dec. 14, 2009 9:56 p.m.

    Nick is clearly the best freshman right now, but some kids develop later on. It will be interesting to see how good these players are by there senior year in high school. The most improved player I've seen this year is Brandon Miller (Freshman) I believe by his senior year, he will challenge Nick for best player in the state, they both play in the same region it will be a fun rivalry for years to come!

  • Nick is the best
    Dec. 14, 2009 7:04 p.m.

    Nick is simpley the best he will be the first true freshman to lead the state in scoring. Not only is he a great scoreer his defense is even better.

  • parent who held kid back
    Dec. 14, 2009 6:57 p.m.

    I held my kid back. He has asked me if I held him back because I thought he wasn't good enough to play his own age. Kids are smarter than you think they understand why most parents hold them back. In reality we are just cheating our kids when we hold them back.

  • re jealousy is ugly
    Dec. 14, 2009 6:54 p.m.

    so should everyone that has kids that play sports hold their kids out?

  • re: jealousy Is Ugly
    Dec. 14, 2009 6:51 p.m.

    tell that to the kid that was as good and maybe a little better than your kids but didn't get to play because he was a grade ahead because he played by the rules. Nobody ever said it was illegal and your kids aparently were held out just for sports if they were good enough to get scholarships that is great for them it is not the kids fault it is the parents fault that contiue to live in their kids dreams. There is still alot of life out there go grab a peice of it live it and love it. It is another kids turn to play move on.

  • Jealousy Is Ugly!!!
    Dec. 14, 2009 6:23 p.m.

    I held all my kids back for sports when they were younger, because they were late bloomers and had mid to late summer birthdays, and would have been the youngest kids in their class. All you whiners could have done the same thing.

    So, now I'm a cheater for making things more equal? We have opposable thumbs people, and we have intelligence and get to make decisions. I guess the people that planned to have their children born in September, October and November are cheaters as well, because they planned for their kids to be the oldest in their respective grades, with a distinct advantage over the younger kids in their grade.

    Also, last I checked it was not illegal to have your kids repeat a grade, or start them late in school. Until they make it illegal, do it yourself. All my kids served LDS missions and have been great parents, so I don't understand the moral dilemma either.

    By the way, the boys all received full ride scholarships in football. I think it was a wise financial decision.

  • #1 Nick Fan
    Dec. 14, 2009 5:47 p.m.

    Nick has got to be the best freshman to ever play. Im good friends with him and he is a really good kid to be around. and he is also incredible at basketball! It doesnt get much better than that!

  • cheating parents
    Dec. 14, 2009 3:56 p.m.

    It isn't the kids fault they should be playing as seniors but the UHSAA should put in a new rule that dosen't punish the current kids in this position but kicks in down the road so that future parents that hold their kids back to so knowing that they will not be able to play their senior year.

  • Wow
    Dec. 14, 2009 3:52 p.m.

    I agree it's not the kids fault but if they were held back for sports it is cheating and they should not be able to play their senior year.

  • re; wow
    Dec. 14, 2009 2:11 p.m.

    Shad Watson is the best player coming into high school next year. He might even be better than Nick Emery right now time will tell. He will start varsity at Box Elder and could probably start at any high school in the state.

  • Wow,
    Dec. 14, 2009 1:38 p.m.

    someone knows a lot about these kids, but from what I've heard Nick's b-day is also right on the edge. Nick is far and away the stud of 2013, but I think Chad Watson (8th grader from Box Elder) will give him a run for his money starting next year.

  • re: grade expectations
    Dec. 14, 2009 1:19 p.m.

    these kids are great players however they should be in 10th grade. It is not the kids fault that the parents hold their kids out for sports. It teaches the kids the wrong things in life. The parents need to figure out what is important in life honesty should come before sports. Should these kids be allowed to play when they are seniors and taking the spot of a kid that played by the rules???

  • re:grade expectations
    Dec. 14, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    And the fact that they could be (not should be) in 10th grade diminishes them how? Don't take credit away from any of the kids. Just give it where it is due. The fact is these athletes all have 4 years of varsity basketball left and they have a ton of talent. They will be exciting watch. Don't take that away.

  • "grade exceptions"
    Dec. 14, 2009 12:25 p.m.

    Most of the best current Freshman should be Sophomores---they are just following the national trend--but Brandon Miller-Brighton, Jordan Darger-Jordan, Talon Shumway-Lone Peak, Bubba Miller-Bear River should all be in 10th grade. Of all the top Freshman only Nick Emery (Lone Peak) Parker Van Dyke (East) and Connor Pardoe (Jordan) are of "true" Freshman age.

  • 2013
    Dec. 14, 2009 11:48 a.m.

    most of the top players played AAU basketball with Salt Lake Metro Nick Emery, Talon Shumway and Connor Toolson are all at Lone Peak. Jordan Darger and Connor Pardoe are at Jordan High. Brandon Miller and Uaea Misina are at Brighton High. All of these schools are in region 4 this will be the best region in 2013 and very exciting to follow.

  • 2013
    Dec. 14, 2009 11:25 a.m.

    don't forget about the Andy Toolsons kid at LP he is another great player and could end up at BYU

  • give it to emery
    Dec. 14, 2009 9:53 a.m.

    he is the real deal and should be a top rated recruit. If he wants to make it big, then out of state is where he needs to go as the Utah schools just don't put out the quantity, quality and rarely see pro status. I say rarely.

    The LP program is amazaing and you have to give to quincy and the fathers of most these kids. There is a freshman from LP however that would likely be in his JR year had they followed the age for process......just some thoughts.

  • Lehi Pioneers
    Dec. 13, 2009 9:36 p.m.

    This was such a heartbreaker to watch. Zach Stanley is one of my best friends and I really wish he would have made that last shot. He is a great basketball player. Even to get that shot off in them midst of such great defense is a tribute to his talent. Lehi will take state in 4A. Go Pioneers!

  • gladwell
    Dec. 13, 2009 2:07 p.m.

    hey the coach needs to make a change and start getting out of the box- double and scout your team- the ball out of the best players hand

  • 2013
    Dec. 13, 2009 8:56 a.m.

    Yes Nick Emery is a great player but the Class of 2013 is LOADED! Besides Nick and TALON SHUMWAY from Lone Peak check out JORDAN DARGER at Jordan, BRANDON MILLER at Brighton, PARKER VANDYKE at East and WADE "BUBBA" MILLER at Bear River. All of these Freshman are fabulous players and are playing Varsity baksetball this year. This will be a fun class to watch!

  • Glad your back
    Dec. 12, 2009 10:33 p.m.

    Mr. Lloyd!

  • Provo
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:24 p.m.

    Last time I checked Lone Peak is 1-3 against Provo in the last four years. There is a difference between scoring and winning. Collinsworth and the rest of the Provo kids know how to win. Collinsworth can't shoot? That is crazy. Look at his shooting percentage. Jackson is great. Tyler is great. And Nick is also great. But don't trash Provo -- because they are also great -- just look at the last four years.

  • Utah Sports Action
    Dec. 12, 2009 2:30 p.m.

    I was at the game and I was amazed with Nick's game and how he can shoot off the dribble. Another player that stood out was Tannon Pedersen he is good at both football and basketball. But there is another freshmen on the team that needs some credit and that is Tallon Shumway he pulled down a huge rebound at the end of the game to help Lone Peak in the win.

  • lpfan
    Dec. 12, 2009 12:48 p.m.

    Everyone also needs to remember that there is another Freshamn on that team -- Talon Shumway, and even though he isn't starting, he is an incredible athlete. Lone Peak has great coaching and will continue to win this year and in the years coming up. Emery is a great player and he has good teammates.

  • Not Surprised
    Dec. 12, 2009 12:06 p.m.

    I am not surprised about how good Nick Emery is, he has been making shots like this since 3rd grade. I expect many more big shots for him to make over the next 3 years.

  • Lone Peak Fan
    Dec. 12, 2009 11:54 a.m.

    Emery is going to win Mr. Basketball his freshman, sophomore, and his junior year. By his senior year there going to have to make a brand new award just for him.

  • Lehi Fan
    Dec. 12, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    Emery is unstoppable. Nobody can guard him, and he is a freshmen. He will be the leading scorer in the state as a 9th grader.

  • Don't look now
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:39 a.m.

    This is the first time in four years LP isn't the heavy favorites to go all the way. But with a horse like Emery and a great supporting cast is anyone going to write them off when they get to February form?

  • LP Pipeline
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:36 a.m.

    Quincy Lewis has been the coach at Lone Peak for six years. He's fifteen players into college basketball including every starter from his last three teams. He's won 3 state championships (no 5A team has ever won more then 2 in a decade) and played for 4. He's won 85% of his games against what is typically the best schedule in Utah. Best coach around. Doing it again.

  • Who's Collinsworth?
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:28 a.m.

    Emery is top to bottom the best player in the state. I would give collinsworth the edge except for one flaw, he can't shoot, let alone score jumpers off the dribble

  • Youth
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:26 a.m.

    Lone Peak starts a freshman, sophomore, junior, senior, senior. Only one of them had any Varsity experience last year. First two guys off the bench are another freshman and a senior who hasn't played basketball since he was a sophomore. The fact Lewis wins no matter who he puts out on the floor is incredible.

  • Lone Peak
    Dec. 12, 2009 7:24 a.m.

    Is loaded for the forseeable future. Haws's little brother comes through next year as does thurl bailey's son. Emery is downright nasty. What freshman in the country can hit an NBA 3 going to his right with a kid draped all over him to tie the game? Did I mention nick is left handed? It was a great game. Pederson played great and shumway (another freshman) came up with a huge board with a minute to go.

  • observer
    Dec. 12, 2009 1:19 a.m.

    Every white kid is the return of John Stockton - study calculus son - the pay is better on the knees... even if ...BIG IF....you are that good...

  • Lehi Manager
    Dec. 12, 2009 12:51 a.m.

    Nick is an amazing kid. I go to school with him. This game shows that Lehi we be a force to beat in the 4A divison. I don't think we will play a harder team this year other then maybe provo. This was the most intense game ever. We couldn't have played any better. Lone Peak will also have the toolson kid next year.

  • impressive
    Dec. 12, 2009 12:30 a.m.

    Holy Cow! Just how good is this kid?! That's impressive. Not only does he tie the game and then give his team the lead, but he scores half their points in the game and it's only his 3rd varsity game. Unbelievable.

    It makes me wonder just how good this kid will be by the time he's in his senior year. It sure will be fun to watch.

  • LP Fan
    Dec. 11, 2009 11:47 p.m.

    Nice job Nick! First of many great things to come! Give a lot of credit to Lehi, that is a VERY good team. They will be one of the last 4 standing this year in 4A. What a game!