Senate Dems at odds over health care insurance

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  • Cindy
    Dec. 8, 2009 10:33 p.m.

    More government intrussion? Expand Medicare and Medicaid? With all the fraud in Medicare every year, we could set up health care savings accounts for those who truly need it. Last year Medicare had $92.8 Billion in fraud. Non-existant procedures, non-existant medical supplies, etc. The Government is a very large part of the problem. They dictate what insurance compaines must cover, which states, you can not sell insurance from another. No tort reform, I am not saying a patient who has problems should not be able to sue, but today it is way out of hand and there are no consequences to those who file a false claim or their lawyers. We need to get the government out of it more, not less.

  • REPLY TO ANONYMOUS
    Dec. 8, 2009 10:02 p.m.

    Better do your homework! You state that Canada and other countries would riot if their healthcare system was ever privatized again. My wife and I belong to an international Canadian/American organization in which we interact with numerous Canadians on an almost weekly basis. They despise their healthcare system!! In fact, they tell us that if they want quick treatment for any reason, rather than putting their names on a waiting list, they come to the states for medical care.

  • Historic
    Dec. 8, 2009 9:05 p.m.

    I'm looking forward to being able to tell my grandchildren that I remember when health care reform FINALLY passed after decades and decades. I'm glad Obama is willing to fight the greedy insurance companies.

  • Joe Moe
    Dec. 8, 2009 7:23 p.m.

    The day the House passed their bill, I asserted the Senate would never pass such a thing. It looks more and more like I was right, thank goodness.

    There needs to be reform and controls, particularly to reign in tort abuse and defensive medicine. Those acts alone will drive costs down and increase availability. Then, expand medicaid if we must. But whatever you do don't expand government's role as a glorified HMO.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 8, 2009 5:43 p.m.

    Change is needed now! If that means taxes increase, ok.

    The current healthcare system destroys families financially...

    There is no incentive to have families right now with the outrageous healthcare bills....

    A government public healthcare system option is the only option that changes this to the peoples favor.

    People need to quit watching propoganda and take an alternative step like Canada and other countries have done. They would riot if their public system was privatized again. They also have the option for private care!

    We took one with Medicare, now lets continue it.

    UTAH #1 in Bankruptcys because of healthcare bills like the rest of the nation!

    What was the cost of the Atonement?

    Was it worth it? Hmm.... Yes...

  • This is wrong.
    Dec. 8, 2009 5:06 p.m.

    Giving the states the ability to opt out may seem like a nice compromise. However, that means conservative states will end up paying for the healthcare of the liberal states. Liberalism is not self-sustaining so they suck the money out of others that don't reap the benefits.

  • Mark my words
    Dec. 8, 2009 3:51 p.m.

    They are going to destroy Medicare.

  • Brain
    Dec. 8, 2009 2:13 p.m.

    I think they're on the right track. The "Public Option" on the table was so diluted that it was not worth the trouble to negotiate it into the final bill. I think with the language they're using now, Medicare and a National Exchange, we will have something that will help now and that can be improved in the future. I hope they can get it done by the end of the year.

  • G
    Dec. 8, 2009 1:31 p.m.

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    Keep insurance co's and pharmaceuticals OUT OF THE ROOM!! "


    Funny you suggest that American healthcare should be designed by eight politicians, two lawyers, and one foreign government worker.

    That sounds more like the problem than the solution.

  • Sterling
    Dec. 8, 2009 12:18 p.m.

    Scrap the bill! Start Over!

    Put 4 Demos. in a room with 4 Repubs., add 2 consumer advocates,and one advisor from a country with socialized medicine (England), formulate SOMETHING that ISN'T partisan.

    With 11 voices there WOULD always be a majority, and Repubs. can't say they "didn't get a voice", and Demos can try objectivity and rationally to get their way.

    Keep insurance co's and pharmaceuticals OUT OF THE ROOM!!