Utah Utes football: Offense trying to get back on track

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  • ChubbyElvis
    Oct. 31, 2009 12:57 a.m.

    Cain has had plenty of opportunities to show the coaching staff what he can do. Watching this season, its obvoious Cain is very gifted as an athlete but as a quaterback there have been some questions raised. How well does he..read defenses?..throw the deep ball?..throw with accuracy? and lastly How good are his football instincts? At times this offense looks like its on the verge of disaster, only to be miraclously saved by a 5 yard slant pass or a sweep which the WRS or RBS run 80 yards for a TD. The coaching staff may be realizing that against TCU, the Utes are going to need a much more prolific offense. Wynn may be a freshman, but he is wise beyond his years. His pocket presence, ability to read defenses, that rocket of an arm and ability to put the ball where only the reciever can catch it maybe just the thing to wake up that sleeping giant known as the Utah Utes Offense!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 30, 2009 8:03 p.m.

    Is it possible that Schram is trying too hard? Maybe what needs to happen is for the reins to be relaxed a bit and let Cain play HIS game. We have a ton of talent of the offense but they don't execute. I'm not a football guru by any stretch but it seems to me that the no huddle strategy is not playing into the strengths of the athletes. Look what happened last year when Ludwig let Johnson play his game in the Sugar bowl. I'm just sayn'


  • UtahAlumnus
    Oct. 30, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    Breaking News: We just fumbled the ball again.
    Breaking News again: Cain just tried to throw deep again resulting in another pick.
    Breaking News again: Pass interference on one our cornerbacks.
    Breaking News again: Another penalty on the Utes.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 30, 2009 1:13 a.m.

    Heeeellloooooo people......why have the Utes not used Jamel King? Now that he is back (injury last year), they are missing out on a tough young guy. Remember before his injury he made it up to the rover linebacker position. He has too much talent to not be used in the Utes line-up.

  • re:anonymous@8:40
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:20 p.m.

    Kruger's still open ,too!

  • davidutefan
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:55 p.m.

    Let's see, We lose a different running back to injury just about every game. Our QB is a first year starter. Our pass defense is the strength of the team and we played a team that passes what? 3 times a season. A team that is for real on defense and gave TCU fits earlier in the season and our only loss comes to a highly ranked team leading the PAC 10 right now and we're already bowl eligible after 7 games. What was it I'm supposed to be worried about again?

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 8:40 a.m.

    "We'll rebound, Max is the man. The only way Utah resembles TCU is that they have never been able to stop Harvey Unga."

    Is this dude serious? 38-7, and he's pumping-up Unga. Unreal.

    BTW, how was "Max" the man, in a 48-24 blow-out loss to UTAH last year, or the 32-7 beating TCU gave bywho, last year? HAHAHAHA

  • I'm offended
    Oct. 29, 2009 7:16 a.m.

    No offense, but that is the most cliched opening line to a story in the history of journalism, Mike. It's only been done roughly 17 billion times. Can we please get some quality writing up in this joint?

  • rvalens2
    Oct. 28, 2009 7:46 p.m.

    Re: Moose on the Loose

    As a Utah fan, who also happens to be a Boise State fan, I find your postings on issues related to the Utah team to be in poor taste.

    I root for both teams because I'm an Idahoan that attended the UofU. My heart lies with the Utes but I also cheer for the Broncos and watch as many Boise State games as I can.

    Who would be better in a head to head match up this year? I'd give a slight edge to Boise State only because they beat Oregon and have a solid quarterback and receiving corp.

    I say let's support both Utah and BSU. To me when both do well it drives another nail into the coffin of this farce we call the Bowl Championship Series.

  • RE: Moose on the Loose
    Oct. 28, 2009 7:11 p.m.

    Boise fan, you are the equivalent of a stalker when it comes to your obsession with the Utes. Please keep your comments to your own Idaho papers.

  • Big J
    Oct. 28, 2009 7:03 p.m.

    We have had issues with our offense. We had issues with our offense this time last year. We continue to work those "kinks" out as the year goes on. By the last few games of the year, we are hitting our stride.

    Go utes!

  • Funny guy
    Oct. 28, 2009 5:18 p.m.

    When did it become funnty to spell Utes Y-e-w-t-s? It has never been funny. It actually makes the person who wrote it look like an idiot. But, you wouldn't care about looking like an idiot because you use 25 exclamation points. One is enough.
    GO WYO, go COUGS. We'll rebound, Max is the man. The only way Utah resembles TCU is that they have never been able to stop Harvey Unga.

  • re: Moose
    Oct. 28, 2009 3:54 p.m.

    Enjoy that ride right down the BCS standings Moose. Boise and their cupcake schedule is already being exposed as a fraud, and it's only 1 week into the BCS rankings. Imagine the next 5 weeks as you play nothing but WAC teams, and other schools run right by you in the BCS.

    Enjoy the Humanitarian Bowl! Or maybe you can lose to the 2nd place MWC team again this year in San Diego!

  • LMAO
    Oct. 28, 2009 3:25 p.m.

    Moose On the Loose: I don't know of any fans blaming or whining about losing Asiata, but I guess if it works for your argument by all means.

    We are not making excuses and you also won't find me scouting out Boise State articles to talk trash about them. Way to stay classy though. I also think all the Ute "fans" who go out of their way to bash BYU are lame, but I guess it adds to the rivalry.

    I would say that a lot of the problems with Utah's offense is a few issues. First and foremost, we cannot have our WR dropping balls, I have seen too many this season. Second, we need to stretch the field more by calling some long throw plays. Three we need a leader to step up and be vocal on our offense, it is like we are going out there only worried about doing our assigned job that we forget to play as a team and that is because nobody is leading the offense.

  • Moose on the Loose
    Oct. 28, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    Everyone knows that losing Asiata was a BIG blow to the yewties offense.

    Every game now we here the Ewes whinning because of Asiata loss.

    Let's play ball and quit using all of the excuses!!!

    Also, if you are still using almost all of the play clock with a no-huddle, then really what is the point? Just huddle up get the play in and then let them get to the line... mix in a no huddle here and there to throw teams off but it you do it every time and use the whole play clock anyway, it's not going to work to your advantage.

    The Yewts were lucky to pull out wins that last couple of weeks............but your luck won't last for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just count your blessings that you don't have to play my Bronco and play on our blue turf and hear our supportive fans!!!!!!!!!

  • JB1
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:59 p.m.

    Yes everyone knows that Mullen and Urban were the designers of that offense (exceot for the guy above I guess), but how bout giving BJ a shot at OC.

  • Re: Funny
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:59 p.m.

    Don't kid yourself.. BYU's DB's couldn't keep up with a 90 year old grandmother with a broken leg.

  • Re: Read Option
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:43 p.m.

    Problem is that the defensive end is not always keyed on Cain. In fact, agaist AF the D-end consistently cheated inside--expecting Wide to get the hand-off. There were several plays where Cain had 6-8 yeard gains had he kept the ball.

    Go Utes!

  • Funny
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:42 p.m.

    I guess all that team speed at wideout is irrelevant if your QB can't out throw a cheerleader.....BYU's DB's can cheat up and cover any WR for 10 yds....

  • Wayne Peart
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:35 p.m.

    LOL what's so funny is that some BYU fans are already saying it will be a good year for them If they can beat Utah (Which Won't Happen).


  • Anonymous
    Oct. 28, 2009 1:09 p.m.

    Cain is a stud. Open up the play book for him. Go utes! Beat Wyoming!

  • Read Option
    Oct. 28, 2009 12:25 p.m.

    This play only works if the defensive end crashes down on the running back. IF the defensive end plays the QB then Cain will always give it to the back. so that is what he is reading the defensive end and it is not his fault for not running the ball. GO UTES!

  • The Long Ball
    Oct. 28, 2009 11:56 a.m.

    Does not have to do with Cains arm strength. It has everything to do with other phases of the offense working in order to call the down field ball. Schram will be waisting plays because the Shorter phases of the game aren't working. And I agree with Ted, the Airforce D is legit!!!

  • Why Sanford?
    Oct. 28, 2009 11:46 a.m.

    Why would you want him back? every one knows it was Urban and Dan Mullen who actually ran the offense in '04.

  • Ted
    Oct. 28, 2009 10:39 a.m.

    Air Force defense is one of the top 10 in the country.... Don't blame it on lack of Utah offense...they were up against one of the best.

  • Dave Schramm
    Oct. 28, 2009 9:50 a.m.

    seems like a nice enough guy, but I know Mike Sanford will need a job at the end of the year. Can we bring him back please?

  • LaVar the Utah Cat
    Oct. 28, 2009 9:26 a.m.

    If Cain is truly as poor as it seems on longer passes, then maybe flea-flicker passes and longer passes by other than the QB are part of the answer. I also say either play Wynn or redshirt him. Don't dither and do a McBride (Alex Smith) and waste a year on one series of downs.

  • No-Huddle
    Oct. 28, 2009 9:17 a.m.

    I'm armchair quarterbacking here, but I don't understand the point of a no-huddle when you're barely getting the play off in time.

    Predictable play-calling is starting to catch up to us. Air Force was right on top of that quick pass to the flat we always run early.

  • Come on
    Oct. 28, 2009 8:32 a.m.

    I know losing Asiata was a big blow - but to still be mentioning it as a problem for the offense is crazy - especially when you consider that Wide has had so much success at running the ball. I know that the wildcat or Asiat package was a big part of the offense but either use someone else in that scheme or develop a wrinkle.

    I like Cain - I think he has the ability to be great we just need to open up the offense a little more - we have been productive without Asiata in other games - go back to that film and figure out what was working.

    Also, if you are still using almost all of the play clock with a no-huddle, then really what is the point? Just huddle up get the play in and then let them get to the line... mix in a no huddle here and there to throw teams off but it you do it every time and use the whole play clock anyway, it's not going to work to your advantage.

    Even with the problems, the Utes still find ways to win - that is great.

    Go Utes!!!

  • Hello.
    Oct. 28, 2009 8:00 a.m.

    Wyoming is a good football team that went into Colorado Springs and played AF almost even. Since I know the Utes won't take Wyoming lightly, I'm not too concerned with Mike Sorenson's thoughts about this--but, he should know Wyoming is not the weak sister it was under Joe Glenn.

    T. Cain is a wonderful, young football player. But, Schram is not using Cain's strenghs very well--and that is what needs to be fixed.

    The Ute's base running play is the read option, but Cain hasn't yet been able to make this play work because he can't seem to make the "read" necessary. He has to keep the ball sometimes, if only to keep the defense honest. Alex Smith was the master of this play, with less pure atheletic skills than Cain (if you ask me).

    So, if there is one thing to do this week in practice it is to help Cain make that read and keep the ball a third to a half the time.

    Also, involve the tight end in some intermediate range pass routes that Cain can throw accurately.

    Go Utes!

  • Y Fan
    Oct. 28, 2009 7:00 a.m.

    Utah has to get their rear in gear with their ofence, Realy close U. It's gonna be a showdown in november!