Scott D. Pierce: MWC's bid to bolster schedule hurt by its TV situation

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  • WHAT???
    Oct. 17, 2009 8:03 a.m.

    All that has been said has some value but after watching Cinncinatti play Southern Flordis the other night, BYU, UTAH and TCU could beat either team. Let's face reality, the other conferences can say all they want about TV etc, but the fact is that they are scared that they might get beat and could not face the humilation.

    Alabama thought Utah would be a push over and what happened. I'll bet they will never play Utah again.

    THe Mountain conference has it weak teams but it also has some teams that others are taking very serious. Let's see what plays out and where TCU and or BUY end up and how they finish in a bowl game.

    And all you Utah fans if you cannot discuss a topic without critising BYU stay out of the conversation. Utah has it own problems with arrigance and hype so watch where you are pointing fingures.

    GO BYU,TCU and UTAH!

  • re re: the NIT
    Oct. 17, 2009 7:51 a.m.

    Thank You, Daily Universe is the center of the universe. That is a good one -GO COUGARS! and don't forget there were more - we had #1 Miami losing at Cougar Stadium, ND, PENN ST, UCLA, SC, OREGON, WASH, BC, and many will come at LES - just see - you ever watch Field of Dream - THEY WILL COME!

  • carlc44
    Oct. 17, 2009 7:17 a.m.

    Well, just to set the record straight...BYU is the center of the universe.

  • re: the NIT
    Oct. 16, 2009 10:37 p.m.

    What are you talking? I thought the Daily Universe paper made Provo the center of the universe. Is that not true?

  • The NIT
    Oct. 16, 2009 9:59 p.m.

    I agree with one comment above - the amazing arrogance of the BYU fan base - the universe does not revolve around you.

  • Re: Demeaning | 9:36 p.m.
    Oct. 16, 2009 9:53 p.m.

    If BYU had any options, any alternatives, any recourse at all, they would take it. They would get out of the MWC in a heartbeat.

    But, alas, no one wants them no one will take them and their supposed vast national audience isn't enough to get them even a sniff by the major national broadcast networks.

  • Demeaning
    Oct. 16, 2009 9:36 p.m.

    BYU's arrogance continues to astound me.

    You are NOT the center of the Universe!

    You talk about how the Mtn deal really messed it up for you and state that you are being dragged down to the depths by the dregs of the MWC like Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV & SDSU.

    I grew up in Wyoming. My parents still live in Wyoming. Most people in Wyoming hate the new TV deal. When I was a kid you could watch most of the Cowboys games on regular, over-the-air TV, and the quality of the broadcast easily exceeded the home-video quality of the MTN. It is not easy to follow the Cowboys now, what with having to have access to 3 different channels from different providers.

    So, no, folks in Wyoming are not thrilled about the MTN. It was much easier to follow the Wyoming in the pre-Mtn days.

    Y fans continue to complain about the load they have to bear and about how much heavy lifting they have to do.

    Fine, if the situation is so egregious, then GET OUT! Take your ball and go the Independent track. Ask the Aggies how easy that is.

  • Re: What | 2:32 p.m.
    Oct. 16, 2009 7:10 p.m.

    Ohio State won't come to Provo because BYU is to Ohio State, as Utah State is to BYU.

    BYU is a lower tier team that presents nothing to gain to the Ohio States of the world.

  • What
    Oct. 16, 2009 2:32 p.m.

    Ohio State wouldn't come to Provo if the game was going to be on ABC and every other network in the country had to go black for the night to make that the only game on TV! Ohio State has never been to provo and never will be. Hmm...FSU came here, USC came here, Boston College, Georgia Tech, UCLA...The tv partnership has nothing to do with what teams come into MWC stadiums. Get a clue.

  • The Schedule
    Oct. 16, 2009 2:27 p.m.

    I agree with workinglate. Boise and Hawaii have figured it out. Play a cream puff schedule and get a high ranking. Get lucky and beat an average Oklahoma team, that was ranked lower than BSU, in the final minute and get credit for best win ever in college football. Boise then loses to TCU last year in bowl game and starts ranked ahead of them. What?

  • Witt
    Oct. 16, 2009 2:25 p.m.

    It is true and on point that the MWC needed a TV deal that would allow our teams to play on Saturdays. Nonethess, in its execution of the MTN, Comcast has royally screwed over the conference from the early fiasco with the satellite companies to lack of HD to where we are now with scheduling issues. Comcast is a lousy partner for the MWC and will exercise no conscience in future negotiations to prove any measure of good faith to the fans and schools whom it is supposed to be serving. MWC, Thompson made a stupid move with this deal and we are still paying the price. Granted, a deal was necessary for scheduling purposes, but it needed to be done right. All of the hype about some deal, someday or a challenge to ESPN doesn't help the ADs at BYU, Utah and TCU do what needs to be done during the next few weeks and months. What a debacle.

  • Workinglate
    Oct. 16, 2009 12:49 p.m.

    The MWC has it all wrong. Utah, BYU, and TCU should schedule a few D2 schools plus a bunch of other patsy ju-co type schools. After all, look how it's working for Boise State - they're undefeated playing a girls softball schedule and on track for a BCS game. Get a clue - schedule cream puffs, not PAC10, SEC, or ACC teams.

  • The Hope
    Oct. 16, 2009 12:22 p.m.

    I like the idea of a competitor to ESPN. I know Fox could be viewed as a competitor right now, but to have a full on competition would be amazing because the consumer would be the winner. Both would be so full-on to provide the best that you'd have every game in the country on television somewhere.

    I hope it comes to pass and that it works in a legitimate competition, not ESPN controlling every little corner of the market, like they do with college athletics right now.

  • MikeD
    Oct. 16, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    Three channels? Are you kidding me? Before this deal the mwc was on SportsWest, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN Classic. Hmm...That's 4. If they were on ESPN today, they would be on ESPNU, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN Regional and probably some local stations. Hmm. that's 5-6. Big 12 is on ESPN, ESPN2, VS, Fox Sports, Fox Sports Rocky Mtn, southwest, etc. I could go into the Pac-10 and SEC, but I would make your complaint about 3 channels look even worse. By the way, where is BYU-TV? You think anyone but BYU people ever turn to that channel? The answer would be NO!

  • MWC
    Oct. 16, 2009 9:49 a.m.

    The biggest complaint about the Mountain West Conference TV package is three TV channels. Why do we need three tv channels to carry games. The MTN, VS, and CBS C. It is a joke that Direct TV is not going to carry VS. This year. This would not be an issues if all gamew were covered by one Station as long as they are in HD. This TV deal is great if you are Wyoming, New Mexico or any of the other bottom feeders, they are getting more exposure than they ever dreamed of. As for TCU, Utah and BYU they are getting the short end of the stick. BYU would be better off going with BYU TV for all their games. I am still no friend of ESPN and no we don't need to go crawling back to them!!!

  • RE: re: Greedy
    Oct. 16, 2009 9:02 a.m.

    It's amazing how clueless people who write comments here are. They think they are blogging. This is not a blog. Get a clue.

    The most annoying thing about the mtn is that they have an HD channel and rarely use it.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 16, 2009 7:44 a.m.

    The mtn is a joke like the MWC, way to blow it with that one guys... I would rather play games tuesday, wednesday and thursday if we could get on ESPN, the MTN looks like my dad is filming one of my pee-wee football games...

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 16, 2009 6:50 a.m.

    I can't stand the mtn. KJZZ produces a better football game when it shows high schools on Friday nights. It's embarassing. That's just production and picture quality - don't get me started on the "broadcasters".

  • re: Greedy
    Oct. 16, 2009 1:25 a.m.

    It's amazing how clueless some bloggers are.

    The main sticking point in the new deal ESPN was offering the MWC was playing games on Tuesday, Wednesday and even Sunday nights, as you saw Boise State do this week with their Wednesday night game.

    If you noticed, both Tulsa and Boise State had a bye week last week just so they'd be able to play on Wednesday.

    If you think the MWC was going to get the plum time slots, like 6 or 7 pm Thursday night, think again. Even the Thursday night games would have been part of a double header with the MWC game slotted for a 10pm start. How many people back East do you think would be staying up that late to watch a college football game?

    And most of the games, especially for games like New Mexico vs Wyoming would have been on ESPN-U, if they were televised at all.

    The Mtn, Versus, and CBS-C, as frustrating as they are, still offer better coverage, with better time slots than the MWC would have gotten with ESPN.

  • Greedy MWC
    Oct. 16, 2009 12:09 a.m.

    The Mountain West Conference is reaping what their greed has sown. They sold out, choosing money above credibility. Now their TV deal makes them a laughingstock.

  • rawhide
    Oct. 15, 2009 11:49 p.m.

    the mountain is a joke - no HD - looks like a little league game