Utah Utes football notebook: Backup QB Wynn's still a candidate to redshirt this year

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  • Descent performances
    Oct. 9, 2009 3:38 p.m.

    Hey Zoobs & Yewts poster, you're right BYU had a brief glimpse of descent perfomances during Crowton's final 3 seasons which all ended with losing records. Glad that's over with, it wasn't brief enough for us fans. We like our decent performances much better.

  • re: zoobs & yewts
    Oct. 9, 2009 3:35 p.m.

    Ah yes, the good old elitist attitude is on display again. You are wrong. Your inbred bias allows you to live in denial that Utah beating Alabama at the end of last season and BYU beating Oklahoma at the start of this season, both games seen nationally of course, has helped keep eveyone outside of Utah fully aware of who these two teams are. And believe me people in the six AQ conferences care plenty about us because they don't want us or any other non-AQ school horning in on their pot of gold.

  • Zoobs & Yewts
    Oct. 9, 2009 11:56 a.m.

    Ha! Both school have VERY brief glimpses of descent performance, but overall they are mediocre. Only a very few select programs have consistently been good. Outside of Utah (and the LDS culture) most people don't even know or care who either club is. Great rivalry for an insignificant region of a trivial conference, but nothing that's being discussed on a national stage. Sorry everybody... that goes for BSU too.

  • A Win is a Win
    Oct. 9, 2009 11:26 a.m.

    "A win is a win. A loss is a loss. Remember in 08 how Utah only beat New Mexico 13-10 but then absolutely killed a top 5 team in the nation, Alabama."

    So, let me get this straight. A win is a win when Utah squeaks past New Mexico, but then Utah fans make a big deal out of killing Alabama?

    A loss is a loss when BYU beats Utah two years in a row on late game heroics, but when Utah smacks BYU last season Utah fans sure made a big deal out of BYU's loss.

    Sounds like a convenient double standard to this objective observer.

  • Old Coach
    Oct. 9, 2009 9:59 a.m.

    Ok ok ok. Enuf a'ready. I tire of all the arguing here. Stop it! I have a suggestion. Have good comments or go away. These comment things seem to attract mental babies, and the poorest of fans. Bad BYU fans leave the articles about Utah alone. Bad Ute fans vacate articles about BYU. UNLESS YOU REALLY HAVE SOMETHING WORTH SAYING!! What do these cheap shots do for any of you?? The rest of the adults who read the articles are tired of all this. The press editors are tired of it as well. Leave the cuts for elsewhere, public newspapers are not where you should empty your bladders. STOP! STOP! STOP! PULEZZE!!

  • Maybe wynn
    Oct. 8, 2009 10:23 p.m.

    should move to defense or transfer to reno. I hear they aren't bad!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 8, 2009 6:52 p.m.

    I'll tell you why utah fans think a BCS bowl is the greatest accomplishment ever and keep bragging about it. It's because they've never won a National Championship game.

    If they had then they would change their tune and see that a BCS bowl that is not for the title is just another bowl game only with a bigger payout.

    Louisville is not a good team. And u didn't play Alabama this year. News to u, right? How about Pitt in 2004? They would have finished around 6th in the MWC. Just a thought.

  • OhioUte2218
    Oct. 8, 2009 6:30 p.m.


    I'll tell you why all the BYU fans keep saying a BCS game is just another bowl game with a bigger payout: they've never played in a BCS game. If they had, all of the sudden they would change their tune and it would be greatest accomplishment of all time. Don't disturb the BYU fans, they still think it's 1984.

    Moose on the Loose, please tell us again about that tough BSU schedule. You call Utah's schedule weak. What do you call Cal Davis, Bowling Green, Miami of Ohio? Talk about a bunch of weaklings. BSU would do almost as well scheduling a couple of high school teams.

    Maybe Oregon didn't play their best game against Utah, but then again neither did Louisville or Alabama; do you think that might have something to do with the way Utah played? Just a thought.

  • re: And you zoobs
    Oct. 8, 2009 6:28 p.m.

    I know. Those same 3 stats really gall utah fans, don't they? It's a thing of beauty.

  • And you zoob's
    Oct. 8, 2009 5:51 p.m.

    And you zoobie geeks excel at cherry picking the same three stats for evey argument (most of which are on UTE topics). Here you go (AGAIN)!! We have more wins than you in: 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, MWC era, 20 years, and EVER..... Your Hiesman winner had more Picks than your current (nation leading) QB, Your Doak winner got cut after one year... BY THE LIONS!!! ( I'm a Lion's fan and I realize what a slap in the face that is!!) Your "National Title" Would have been more legitimate if they would have flipped a coin to choose who got it..... But hey!!! There's always ancient history.... Go have your grandpa tell you about the good old days...

  • re: curious
    Oct. 8, 2009 1:05 p.m.

    Because a BCS bowl is just another bowl game, only with a bigger payout. If you're not playing for the BCS title game (i.e., the mythical national championship game) then it's just another bowl game. There are many bowl games, some with big payouts and some not so big. But the result of only one bowl game each year goes on the record books as the title game. If your school had ever won a National Championship then you would understand this.

    And if it was still "the old system"...well, keep dreaming buddy. Utah fans excel at the "if only" and "coulda shoulda woulda" stuff.

  • re: 110 years
    Oct. 8, 2009 12:28 p.m.

    Yeah what a record, too bad the first 60 years of that record consists of utah beating a very weak BYU program that didn't even take football seriously until the late 1960's and nearly all of the games were played at utah. That's something to really brag about. Oh and utah always counts the wins against BY Academy in their total too just too make themselves feel even more important.

  • Curious
    Oct. 8, 2009 12:14 p.m.

    I am curious to know why all you Bougar fans keep telling me a BCS game is just another bowl gaem with a higher payout. If it is just another bowl game why the Quest??????? to boot, you all could have had a shot at another NC possibly but once again you choked in the spotlight. Also pleas realize if it was still the "old sytem" Utah would have one maybe two NC within 4 years

  • 110 years....
    Oct. 8, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    Did you know that Utah leads BYU in the all-time series at 53-33-4? Since we're talking history...

    Also, why are there so many BYU comments on this article about Jordan Wynn?

    Did you also know that SMU won a National Championship in 1982? Probably not. Because nobody outside the SMU fanbase remembers of cares. Same with the koogies.

    Per every BYU fan's instructions, please go to BYU articles to post.

    Bottom line: Record Utah vs. BYU 53-33-4. You still have twenty years until you tie.

  • @ @ 8:44
    Oct. 8, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    And BYU has two former QBs with Super Bowls wins. Say, how is your #1 draft pick alex smith doing? Really tearing it up by now I'll bet? What, no Super Bowls? Not even starting? What's that sound I hear...oh, it's the 49er's kicking themselves for wasting a draft pick.

  • @ 8:44
    Oct. 8, 2009 9:21 a.m.

    Everybody outside of Utah County knows that the '84 Championship title was gifted; not earned. You beat NOBODY that year, and just barely.

    It's interesting that those zoobies who still pound their chests about backing into the NC back in '84 can't see that despite the 4th easiest schedule in the country that year, they still JUST BARELY managed to go undefeated. It's also interesting that these zoobies can't see that in the entire football playing history of ybU, that they've NEVER BEEN ABLE TO REPLICATE that undefeated season. ONLY ONCE in your entire history. The Utes did it twice THIS DECADE ALONE, and 7 times in their history. Another interesting fact is that despite all those individual trophies showcased in their display case that they haven't mustered the TEAM success such as a BCS Bowl win or two.

    Ha ha! Bunch of paper tigers.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Re: 8:44 am
    Oct. 8, 2009 9:09 a.m.

    Don't forget that after 110 years the Uties have had only 4 good/great teams and 106 average/mediocre teams.

  • re: re: No players of the Week
    Oct. 8, 2009 8:44 a.m.

    And did u know that after 110 years BYU has a National Championship, a Heisman winner, and a Doak Walker winner while utah has none of those things? Oh that's right utah has two BCS bowl games which have bigger payouts but are still just bowl games.

  • Don't put on the red shirt
    Oct. 7, 2009 11:29 p.m.

    Could be the mistake of the century. Once kids redshirt they tend to slack of a bit in pratice (see the Alex Smith disaster) Keep the freshman QB ready and hungry to take over the Job. It's the only logical choice.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 7, 2009 4:30 p.m.

    i think oregon played decent, utah is just a good team, they made them look bad

  • who is ranked again?
    Oct. 7, 2009 4:15 p.m.

    moose on the loose leads the rankings for idiotic poster, slightly ahead of Ernest T. Bass.

  • re: No Players of the Week
    Oct. 7, 2009 3:30 p.m.

    FYI - Did you know that after five weeks, Max Hall leads the nations in interceptions?

    Did you know that after five years, Utah has 2 BCS wins, and BYU has 0?...sniffle, sniffle.

  • re: moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 3:22 p.m.

    I couldn't agree with you more.

    The yewties have had a very cushy schedule and still bearly pulled out the wins.

    It would be even worse had they played my team the BS Broncos. But oh well!

    Just be happy that you have won some games and FORGET being ranked..........just watch some of your Sugar Bowl reruns!!!!!!!!!

    GO Boise State!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 3:07 p.m.

    who is ranked again? tell me that?

  • No Players of the Week for U
    Oct. 7, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    "After five weeks, the Utes have yet to pick up a MWC POW honor. The only other team that hasn't picked up a MWC weekly award is 0-5 New Mexico."

    I wonder what the problem is? It's probably because of the officiating, right yoot fans? I'm going to bust a gut laughing if New Mexico gets one before u do.

  • re: moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 1:41 p.m.

    You're right, the BYU/FSU game wasn't even close going into the 4th quarter! All the old hens had already cleared out of LES.

    FYI - BYU led mighty USU 21-10 going into the 4th quarter, Utah led that same squad 33-17 going into the 4th. Having read your comments on these boards before I wouldn't expect you to comprehend actual stats that completely contradict your pathetic claims.

  • Re:re: moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 12:59 p.m.

    I second the last two comments. Moose has more than a screw loose. His babysitter should not let him play on the internet.

  • Is it worth it?
    Oct. 7, 2009 12:32 p.m.

    If I were the coach I would redshirt Wynn. Yes, it would be nice to put him in some wildcat formations this year, but is it worth it? Unless your the Miami Dolphins, your not gonna run the wildcat that much. It also risks Wynn getting injured and Cain is a Junior. At best he has just one more year. Redshirt Wynn and let him be the back up next year so he can be the starter for the next two years. Both of these guys have shown good ability so I'd worry more about the offensive line than the QB

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Oct. 7, 2009 12:08 p.m.

    I'm confused...don't all of our players wear red shirts? I believe the coaches and many of our fans also wear red shirts.

  • Worst game of the century?
    Oct. 7, 2009 11:35 a.m.

    Wow, that's rich.

    Even Bronco knows BYU has some of the dumbest fans in the nation.

  • re: moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 11:29 a.m.

    What a byu homer. A win is a win. A loss is a loss. Remember in 08 how Utah only beat New Mexico 13-10 but then absolutely killed a top 5 team in the nation, Alabama. They were both wins. I guess if you want to compare losses to #13 Oregon and unranked Florida State, the Utes have the better loss, even though a loss in never good. I'd rather lose by 7 to the #13 team in the country then lose by about 4 touchdowns to an unranked team that is now 2-3 on the year so far. Wouldn't you moose? Be honest about that.

  • moose on the loose
    Oct. 7, 2009 10:51 a.m.

    You don't understand why the ute aren't ranked? Guess you haven't watched any of their games this year then. Every single game has been close halfway through the 4th quarters. Against a very week schedule. Oregon played their worst game this century and still beat you guys. CSU should be very interesting this week. Watch it and you'll see why they aren't ranked. . .

  • Crazy4theUtes
    Oct. 7, 2009 9:07 a.m.

    Man I don't understand with the numbers being that High why aren't the Utes Ranked?

  • Devonte
    Oct. 7, 2009 8:01 a.m.

    I agree, lets get him some opportunities to make plays this week. Why not have him run some of the wildcat package with Asiata down? It gives another real throwing option to that formation, and from all reports that's where he can shine.