Given the opportunity to, I elieve Tag could have had better numbers. But under
Sloans system there was no Real opportunity.Of all the JAzz players I have
watched none has endured as much open beration as Tag. Yet he showed up every
night to do what he was allowed to, to the best of his ability. The mental side
of the game is important and if you have a coach constantly berating you in
public, you will not perform to your potential.Mark Eaton was another team
player in a system that did not use the 5 position for offense. He did what was
asked of him and more. How many blocked shots?How many blocked shots as a
team did the jazz have in 2008? Tag was more mobilr than Mark and broguht
a added defense to the interior. He also did better than Felton on the
perimeter. Blocked shots?Of course both of these centers would have had
more rebounds had it not been for Malones needs and being put at the three point
line on offense.Okur is a #4 no doubt about it. Apples,pears, and oranges.
Chadders, even Brad Rock in Lindys discusses how the Jazz have now low post
threat at the center position, that is why we did not include Mehmout because to
me he should be a #4
I have to disagree with most of the people on here. 'Tag was one of the worst
players ever to put on a Jazz uniform. Best Center the Jazz have ever had is
easily Okur, he would kill Felton, Tag, Eaton, etc. Okur is a nontraditional
Center for sure but he has improved every year and played a vast majority of his
games and played with effort. I think it is funny that people act like AK is a
financial black hole but praise Ostertag. If that guy ever even played one
season like the $$ he got the Jazz could have won a ring easily. re:ruthvenYou are wrong no one ever shut down Hakeem. The only thing
that stopped him was injuries. He was in my opinion the most underrated players
ever to play in the NBA. He had the best year ever for anyone in 1994. He was
the regular season MVP, Defensive player of the year, Finals MVP and he won the
ring. No one else has ever done that, not Mike not Russell, not Kareem, not
I happen to like and respect Greg a great great deal. Far as the best center
ever for the Jazz, in my opinion, it would have been Felton Spencer who was
improving and became a 10-11 pppg scorer, until the fateful night at Boston
Garden he tore his knee.For those that think I rip Jerry on every
issue, he did a good job improving Felton from when he first got to the Jazz to
then.Strangely enough, I agree Greg could outproduce Collins, Fes at
least now. Sure he had bad hands. But he could play most centers, Shaq would
be better but Greg held his own. he played fundamental good defense, clogged
the paint and at least made teams think twice before walking in for layups or
taking to the rim at will unlike now.Believe it or not, If Jerry
wanted to resign him for this year which is unlikely I would support it. He
could give solid backup playfor Okur and give us a different look or play both
together. I trust Tag enough he would be in shape and give a professional
Good for Tag. He could give any team a respectible 10-15 minutes of interior
defense.His stats with the jaz show what he was allowed to do. Dont fault
him for what sloan wouldnt let him do.Shaq was once asked who his toughest
match up was and he sadi Ostertag from Utah. Obviuosly Tag made an impression,
so much that Shaq blindsided him and Karl just stood and watched it happen. A
real team mate would have stepped up and got involved. Tag had more than
basketball to worry about when in Utah he had to make sure he bowed to Malone
and if he didnt he was reprimanded by the bully sloan.Maybe he could have
worked harder,but why if you only get to stand around on offense.Best wishes to Tag and his family. After meeting Tag and sharing popcorn at a
revue I and My son still have much respect for the second best center the Jazz
have ever had.
You only have to watch the famous 6th game playoff win vs. Houston where
Stockton hits the last shot to see how effective Ostertag was for them. He shut
down and frustrated Olajawon, enabling the Jazz to get to the finals that year.
If you watch that game, you'll see what is missing from the current Jazz
team...someone who can stop another teams post scorer.You guys can't get
past that the guy was funny looking to see how important Ostertag was.
Fortunately, Sloan realizes it.
Top: Sceptical Cougar Fan 12:49 PM I thought this article was
about the Utah Jazz and Ostertag, not BYU? Please stay on-topic. Thank you.
Um... How can you have a comeback when you have never been there?
YOu are all wasting your time ragging on Ostertag,he was not a top
draft choice,if he actually ever became something NOW
THAT would have been the surprise!Hew man centers drafted in the
lottery make ithave soectacular careers?Jazz management over paid
him, creating undue expectations.I sloans system gives the Center
very little to do in the offnse besides stand out at the 3-point line.okur succeeds in the system becaue he can shoot the three.Heres is the real truth of the jazz (with or without ostertag):They had the greatest point guard,They had the greatest
power foward,in a sloan system that features the point guard
and power fowardand still NO championships.(and the
reality is they only came close because the league was down,and in
one those years thay had to have a last second shot to even make it to the
finals,and when jordon retired they still couldn't win it in a
strike shortened season.}YOu all can be the judge on what all
Worst player to ever play for JAZZ. JAZZ brass please don`t sign him to another
contract. This wouldn`t surprise me it`s happened before.
If Ostertag could have visualized the rim as a steak dinner and the ball as
desert at the Peppermill Hotel and Casino, I am sure his rebounds and points
would have increased dramatically.
Ostertag never was much of a work out machine. I doubt he has what it takes from
a work ethic point of view to make it back to the NBA. It's not like he has been
pumping weights like Karl has during his retirement. Good luck finding a
suitable partner, someone who is willing to pay you to watch games from the
bring O back, I'd love to see it. I used to cheer my guts out for him when he
did well, and if the Jazz had someone similar that could clog up the lane and
free the others to play more aggressive defense it would help us a bunch.
It was either him being triple teamed OR him worrying about wrestling in the
WWF! I still have nightmares seeing him running down the court in the
championship series flashing the "diamond cutter" to the crowd! I don't think it
had as much to do with him being triple teamed as you think!!!
I hate to say it but I am skeptical that the Y will beat Florida State. Playing
at home will help alot but the speed factor is going to kill the Y. Florida is
so fast and athletic in all positions. Hall will have to have his best game ever
to beat FSU because he will see a pressing man to man defense the entire game
along with a heavy dose of pressure from the d-line. Is BYU up to the
challenge?? I don't think so but I could be wrong.
I personally was a jazz fan back when adrean dantley played,and as far as i am
concerned they are still a great team,every team makes there mistakes.i am
hopeing that the jazz do well this season.
Well, if he does come back, that says it all. It will be a horrible season.
how much the Jazz will offer to get him back. He was a better defender than
Boozer and a better re bounder than Collins. What a wonderful help he would
Remember when shaq slapped him in the face? What did he do, he just fell on the
ground crying.The Jazz need a strong presence in the paint, not some guy
who can't catch, and will back down from even brevin knight.This guy
was almost as bad as shawn bradley.
best center ever,eaton horrible
Ostertag did what he was expected - a la Mark Eaton. He clogged the middle and
blocked shots, got rebounds. He had butter fingers and did not have any
offensive moves or shot. But we did not need that from him. He's a lenky 7'
2" and not strong enough to body-up on anyone, but he'd be better at center than
I laughed at that also--Collins? Why? they have Joel P and Oden? Portland
though Chadders went after several players as they had more financial space, I
think that is the point-aggressive in signing players, although Andre Miller if
you look at his career has always played better in the Eastern Conference-i do
not think Portland is much better, I am more worried about improved Dallas and
Spurs for us to move up
Who next,Luther Wright?????
In the playoffs, defense steps up and everyone keyed on Malone. This was
possible because the Jazz had no one else to step up offensively, not enough
outside shooters to start raining 3s when Malone was triple teamed, no one
crashing the boards for offensive rebounds. Well rounded teams make you pay
when you focus your defense on one guy, but not the Jazz.
If he can't come back, I'm sure he'll mention sloan in his HOF induction speech
in two years.
Ostertag was one of the worst wastes of talent this league has ever had. I
think it's pretty funny I had to listen to people all summer talk about what a
terrible job KOC and the Jazz have been doing with their personal, draft picks,
etc. And the same people kept saying Portland is so much smarter than us but now
they are thinking about signing Collins. Haha if they do sign him can we finally
stop talking about them as a better franchise than we are?
Why does he have a bad rap? He mad a lot of money at Utah, so have a lot of
other players that have not had great output. Answer me this, why does Utah not
have a championship? The answer is Karl Malone! His stats almost ALWAYS went
down in the playoffs while all the other big name players for other teams had
their stats go up! Ostertag could have a career night and that would not make a
difference in the Jazz winning or losing, we ran the ball through Malone! Stop
making Tag the scapegoat! Malone could have given up money here to help buy a
stronger team like he did in LA. I like most all Jazz players but the one to
blame if any is Malone not Ostertag!
has probably run out of $$$$
to anonymous "hee hee" That and possibly James Donaldson, Felton Spencer has
reported his kneee has not felt better in years as he had been training with
Real Salt Lake
He might bring in a block or 2.....in 82 games.
of all the people to make a come back. Ostertag?
knowing the way good ol kevin o'conner does things, he'll probably sign ostertag
to a multi year deal. wouldn't surprise me a bit.