University of Phoenix at least accepts more than 40 students into their MBA and
has been doing it longer than most universities. They offer complete online
degrees, and also get it done under 20k. Is UVU really better than
going to ' the "University" of Phoenix '? Not really, especially when UVU takes
six months longer and only offers 1 emphasis. University of Phoenix offers 9.
450,000 students and half a million alumni can't be too far off.Also, check your UVU faculty, you'll find many that are familiar faces at
University of Phoenix ;-)
I like anonymous' comments. University admissions are becoming more about
politics and popularity than credentials. Case in point, me: my grades and
test scores (i.e. ACT, GMAT, GRE) have been better than half or more of the
students admitted to more than one "Ivy League" school in every one of my
programs (BA, MBA, PhD). And, where did I choose to go? Weber State University
and a small, unknown private MBA program in Oregon. Though I chose a more
widely-known school for my PhD, my point is this: Smart, independent-minded
people don't always listen to "US News" and their amateur ranking systems- some
people think for themselves and achieve- independent of where they go to school.
Mark my words, UVU will attract some of the best, brightest and most
independently-thinking students in the world and before long, the
accomplishments of these students will bring great honor to this program.
I think it is great that another institution in Utah will be offering an MBA
"Its always been my understading that an MPA or MPP are equally as valuable."Hehehehehe... hohohohoho...Nope.Congratulations
to UVU, though. This is a big step forward for them.
Still better than an MBA from the "University" of Phoenix.
I concur with "MBA's are worth the money" and "To:Anonymous." I've worked for
several large corporations throughout my career, all of whom prided themselves
on being meritocracies. The truth however was that one could only get so far in
those corporations without an MBA, regardless of how competent they may have
been. My MBA has unlocked career doors for me that would not have been opened
otherwise. I don't know that the education necessarily provided me with a set of
skills that I couldn't have developed on the job, but it gave me the contacts
and the piece of paper that I needed to progress.
From your comments I am assuming you don't have an MBA. If you did, you would
know how an MBA unlocks the doors of opportunity and significantly increases
someone's earning potential and ability to support their family. An MPA is
valuable - if you want to focus on Public Administration, not Business
Administration.Like all education, an MBA provides options for
someone who is seeking employment and allows them to choose employment they are
interested in versus being forced to do something they are not. Our family, for
example, has lived outside of the US in both Europe and Asia and had great
experiences. If I did not have an MBA, that would have been impossible.With regard to getting your MBA at BYU or UVU, your school can
create recruiting opportunities, but after you get your first job, your career
depends on you and your ability to create value for your company. It is 100%
about your ability to perform and being dedicated to the task at hand. Not once
during a performance evaluation has anyone ever asked me where I went to school.
It is always about how I have performed in my job.
That's great that UVU's biz school is offering an MBA program - it will help
make it more competitive in general (not necessarily with just BYU). Another
thing Woodbury school could do is raise its admissions standards. Most top
business schools have a two tier admissions process in which certain courses and
grades are required before being admitted into the program; UVU would benefit
from doing the same. A lot of students go to UVU after not being admitted into
the programs at BYU or the U - does Woodbury want to keep being the school of
choice for leftovers? But still, kudos to UVU for moving on to bigger and
Say what you want about an MBA not being worth the money but I challenge all
those detractors to try and advance within a medium to large corporation without
one. I have worked for both Novell (17 years) as well as IHC and now the LDS
Church and I know for a fact what a highly valued degree an MBA is. I also know
of candidates whom were applying for management and or marketing positions who
didn't even meet the minimum requirements for the position without an MBA and
were thus rejected without even getting an interview. I am a software engineer
with degrees in EE and CS but I have alot of respect for those with MBA's and
value they add to a company. MBA's are great degree's!!
MBA's are the ultimate conformist degree. So, yet another college in Utah offers
one which is great I guess.Its always been my understading that an
MPA or MPP are equally as valuable.Yet, if you still wanna go make
millions on Wall St, oh wait...
MBA's are outdated at public universities and are a waste of taxpayer money?!
Have you actually seen the cost of tuition? With those prices, I am guessing
they are cash cows. The USU program is about 17K for two years, part time, no
intl trip, and that is by far the cheapest in the SL Valley. You can get to 30K
to 50K real quick at Westminster and the U.
"Market place" and "under serving"? And you taught at the university level?
Good for UVU, although I would never go there, but good for them.
MBA are outdated at public universities. What a waste of tax payer money!
The writer doesn't quite understand the educational landscape. There is NO
competition between BYU and UVU. They serve different audiences to a degree (no
pun intended). BYU is grossly under serving their market place. If they tripled
the number of students they accept, they still wouldn't come close to the
demand. UVU will put together a fine to excellent program. Their
professors and MBA practical contributors will be on a par with BYU because many
of the same people will teach at both. Some will be ex-BYU profs and some will
be ex-UVU profs. With UVU only accepting 40 to start, they'll turn
away 3 times that number.Forget the competition mindset (which is
great for many things). The two universities are cooperating at a high level and
will continue to do so. I've taught at both schools and work with both schools
now on projects. The great beneficiary of all of this is the community. Two
excellent programs bringing a high level of professionalism to the valley.It's only good. Totally win-win.