"We have one...where's yours?"It isn't hidden. Our Football NC
trophy is displayed prominently in our trophy case."I'll lay odds we
win another one before you ever get a sniff at one."Now there's a
bold prediction. It sounds a lot like the Utes' challenge to the tdS when we
boasted we'd get a 2nd BCS Bowl before you even sniffed ONE. How ominous of
us."Now go try to find some respect #2. Hahahaha"Really?
We finished #2 in the AP, while YOU finished #25, and you're suggested WE need
to find some respect? OUR respect has been found, and noted among Sports
Analysts and ESPN articles touting us as the best non-BCS program in the country
[most wins over BCS teams of any non-BCS schools, longest winning streak,
longest Bowl winning streak, best Bowl winning pct. for teams > 10 Bowl games
played, etc.]. Who beat 4 ranked opponents last year? Utah! Who has NEVER beat > 2 ranked opponents in ANY GIVEN year? Who lost to
every ranked team played last year? Who has gone 1-22 vs ranked opponents over
the last 12 yrs? The tdS!
" I was there and that place was empty long before the last two minutes."I love to hear you and your fellw tdS fans blatantly expose themselves
as frauds in your posts. You were NOT at the game. Zoobs only go to RES once
every 2 yrs, and only in late November. Even if you DID go to the game [which
you did NOT], you would only be admitting to your insecurity about the Utes
since you've failed to live up to their national presence. Actually, you
admitted in ANYWAY when you posted your bogus claim to have been there.There's no such thing as a tdS fan, only Ute haters.I wasn't at
the game either. I live on the East Coast. But I watched the game nonetheless.
It was on NATIONAL television [not The Mtn.].
I don't believe the majority of BYU fans actually believe the Cougs were the
BEST team in the country in 1984 but. However, they were one of the best and
could play with any team in the nation. The best teams in sports don't always
win championships. That doesn't deminish BYU's championship. Just like the BcS,
the poll and voting system in '84 was controversial at best. BYU happened to be
in the right place at the right time and took advantage of the system that was
in place and was voted as Champions by NATIONAL media and coaches. No, we didn't
have to vote ourselves as paper champions like the Ute clowns keep spouting off
about. Kinda cute boys but in the end the trophy is the only thing that matters.
We have one...where's yours? I'll lay odds we win another one before you ever
get a sniff at one. Now go try to find some respect #2. Hahahaha
all the ute fans say how they saw BJ against OSU in the last two minites to win
that game. I was there and that place was empty long before the last two
minutes. These fair weather ute fans didn't believe in the utes then and they
didn't believe in them during the BCS Bowl. Utes did not sell out their full
alotment of tickets to their fans. I guess they already had the second mortgage
on the trailer in order to get their season tickets.
Poor zoobs. Resorting to revisionist history to make a point doesn't work on
Ute fans. "At Michigan a receiver dropped an easy catch in the
endzone for Michigan..."Nope. Actually at Michigan, they were able
to stay in the game due to a few muffed punts. At NO point during that game did
they drive the length of the field. Their only scoring drives BEGAN in Ute
territory."...at Air Force your team looked pathetic...from all
accounts Air Force out played you from start to finish"30-23 Edge:
Utah. Utah outgained AFA by 249 yds of total offense. And we even
held them to only 53 yds rushing...their lowest rushing total since 1981 Edge:
Utah"...then the kicker from TCU decides to take the day off and
hands that game to you..."TCU piled on 416 yds total offense...over
200 of which (and all points scored) occurred in the 1st Qtr. Qtrs 2-4, Utah's
defense makes adjustments, and wins the day. Edge: Utah"...then
Max Hall decides to commit more turnovers in 1 game then he had all year
long."Hall vs. Johnson, Edge: Utah.Hall vs. Utah's "D", Edge:
Anyone who seriously thinks the '84 season is the reason we have the BCS has a
head full of brown mushy stuff. If you even watched 10 seconds of
the debates that created the BCS, you'd know the reason the BCS exists is
because of the recurring problem of two schools being crowned national
champions. THat happened repeatedly in the 90s and so the conferences got
together and decided on the BCS. They really didn't give a second thought to the
smaller schools cuz it didn't matter what they said until schools like Marshall,
Boise State and Utah started putting together teams that rivalled the champions
of the BCS. Cougar fans, sorry but the world doesn't revolve
around Happy Valley, no matter how hard you try, how perfect you are, or how
much you are invested in your team.
I love how the cougars assume that those who don't respect the y must be ute
fans. Both programs were over-rated. Barely scrapping by mediocre conference
opponents is far from awe inspiring.
I can't believe you Utes are this dense. You try to rip apart a 13-0 season
with a hundred reasons why it was nothing special; then in the same breath you
prop up your own 13-0 season where you got lucky at least 4 times. At Michigan a
receiver dropped an easy catch in the endzone for Michigan, at Air Force your
team looked pathetic and everyone who watched that game is still trying to
figure out how Utah ended up winning that game because from all accounts Air
Force out played you from start to finish, then the kicker from TCU decides to
take the day off and hands that game to you, then Max Hall decides to commit
more turnovers in 1 game then he had all year long.The point is
anybody can tear apart any season if they want to nitpick. But 13-0 is 13-0.
So pat yourself on the back for having done it twice now but it's OK to give
other great teams their due.It's all the comments like these that I
believe there is no such thing as a Utah fan...only BYU haters.
The real question is what have you done for me lately? Oh, I get it, that is
exactly why we are getting the 1984 season in review 25 years later. Well, I
guess you gotta do whatever you need too, when your "quest" keeps getting
hijacked gy those pesky Men in Red...Thanks, you've inspired me to pull that
1984 little league trophy for a good polishing since, like the cougars, I won't
be winning one of those again anytime soon.
Breaking this down, to the simplest terms even a zoobie can understand:In '84, you beat NO ONE of significance. Your opponents were weak, and so was
the WAC. Beating mediocre teams is considered par. Beating top competition is
considered noteworthy.Even with your weak schedule you struggled
with your competition. Only a 38-15 victory over a 6-5 bowl-less Tulsa team did
you show anything remotely resembling a strong performance over a team with a
winning record.Beating an overrated Pitt team in your season opener
put you in the Top-15, but that didn't make you a Top-15 caliber team. Pitt won
3 games all year. Play that game in week 4 and nobody would have noticed.
After cracking the Top-15, you just waited for those teams who played REAL
competition to inevitably lose. You backed into the #1 spot by week 11. After
that, by not losing to 1-10 Utah St, or 6-6 Michigan, the pollsters couldn't
move you down. When has the #1 [sic] team in the nation ever beat their Bowl
opponent and drop in the rankings? Never.You didn't earn it. You
when the y was relevant. Maybe the DN should re-run more of these 1984
look-back articles after OU crushes the y in a few weeks.Ah,
they try hard to make believe their teams of 04 and 08 did better than the great
Y team of 84. Can't get over the one fact: #1, BABY!!!!!
You wrote: "You obviously live in Utah; most likely within shouting distance of
the "why?", so I'll clue you in. Nobody outside of your tdS bubble, or the LDS
church really believes you were the best team that year.......''Uh,
then who crowned us National Champions?I'll give you a hint. It
wasn't some "fan" poll like the one who want recognized as "official" for your
2008 team....Hugs and Kisses - BleedCougarBlue
A Sugar Bowl Champion trophy will never top a National Champion trophy. Without
looking, who won the Sugar Bowl in 1984? Unless it was a NC game, now one
BYU has won a National Championship Utah never has. End of story.
I actually enjoy these comments better than the articles ... Something to think
about, the BYU 1996 Cotton Bowl team was probably the best BYU or Utah team
Someone said:"You obviously live in Utah; most likely within
shouting distance of the "why?", so I'll clue you in. Nobody outside of your tdS
bubble, or the LDS church really believes you were the best team that year."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Um, actually the majority of both the
sportswriters and coaches in 1984 believed BYU was the #1 team that year.
That's why they voted for them. Why do you guys have such a hard time with
Gimme a break!Even those who are stupid know that statistics can be
twisted to serve their purposes. Look at politicians!You can dice
the years many ways to PROVE BYU is better than Utah. But you only have twisted
statistics.Right or wrong by Utie standards. BYU has a CONSENSUS
National Championship. That is not a twisted statistic, that is a fact.If Utah had ever won a national championship, I would give them Kudos.
Why do Ute fans have such a hard time acknowledging achievement by BYU?I guess we all know the answer to that!
Deseret News... still has nothing to report about sports. Really? Nothing on
recruiting? Nothing about spring or summer ball? Nothing but reliving the
"Glory Days" of a blown up national championship. Honestly... Wait! I have an
idea! Let's do a 5 year anniversary of the 2004 Original BCS Busters! Oh yeah!
That sounds awesome... I'm sure everyone will want to relive that!!! Nah... we
don't want all those cougar fans reading the Deseret to move over to the Trib...
So lets talk about 1984 for 2 WHOLE WEEKS!!! Yay!!!!!
is just that, HISTORY. Especially after 25 years!Found this article
linked from 1280thezone. Very intersting in that it truly shows the change of
the guard that BYU fans wish to ignore and deter.A researcher
studied all D-1 programs from 2004-2008, and here were the results:Utah49-14 Overall29-10 Conference16-8 Versus teams w/winning
record6-5 Versus ranked teams 13 Most wins in a given season5
Most losses in a given seasonBYU43-19 Overall31-8
Conference12-14 Versus teams w/winning record1-10 Versus ranked
teams11 Most wins in a given season6 Most losses in a given
seasonBasically the Utes beat good teams and the Cougars are below
average against good teams, and just plain pathetic against ranked teams. And so
much for the "consistency" argument from BYU fans as shown over the last 5
years.Couple other notes on the article:Boise4-5
Versus ranked teamsTCU3-7 Versus ranked teamsI'd like to thank this researcher for clearly showing that Utah is now the
class of the MWC, and all non-BCS conferences.
Oh Yaaaawn! How many articles on '84 do you need to fill the sports pages?--LOL
Can you think of a higher rank than number one? Look- kudos to the Utes for a
great season last year. If you had played that season in 1984, you might well
have been Natl Champs, too. BYU's 1984 does not take away from Utah's 2004 or
2008 or vice verse.
Uh, do we have nothing new to report since it's summer?
Still living in the past? The 1984 season is the reason why we have the BCS.
That is not the Y's fault. Until things change BYU, Utah and no one outside the
BCS will win a national championship. Enjoy 1984 for as long as you can, that
appears to be the best you'll ever do.
We topped that season 5 yrs ago with our ORIGINAL BCS busting team, the Urban
Meyer led '04 team. Then we topped THAT team last year by beating 4 ranked
teams, winning the Sugar Bowl, and picking up the media's Fanspoll Nat'l
Championship title.Our 8th ranked '94 squad was better than your '84
team. We beat 3 ranked teams that year. When, in the ENTIRE EXISTENCE of the
tdS football program, have they ever done that? All you did in '84 is eke out
victories over creampuff opponents (seriously, your ONLY opponent w/ more than 7
wins that year was Air Force, with one of those 7 coming against 1-AA Northern
Colorado), and wait for those other teams [the REAL teams of '84, who scheduled
REAL competition] to lose.You obviously live in Utah; most likely
within shouting distance of the "why?", so I'll clue you in. Nobody outside of
your tdS bubble, or the LDS church really believes you were the best team that
year. You're lucky you were even mentioned in the Top-10. You were the Ball
St. of 2008. You didn't beat a team with > 8 FBS wins.
season to remember. Not just undefeated, but National Champs as well. Try to
top that one utie fans.