the return of San Diego "Houdini" after a very enjoyable vacation....Houdini and others thought the Jazz with the same roster would be "world
champines" in 2010.2011 maybe. Of course the roster would
have to be turned over and new leadership to win the ring and leadership not
starting with Phil or Tyrone
All our guys comin back,hopefully all healthy and all in the last year of a
contract,all we need to do now is dump miles and stick AK in at the 3,I LOVE
IT!!!! Williams,Brewer/Korver,AK,Boozer and Memo,with Millsap,Koufos and another
warm body coming off the bench,GO JAZZ!!! GO SLOAN!!! GO SLC!!!!
2009-2010 rosterActually very similar to 2008-2009O
Connor is celebrating...This is what he wanted.I knew he was awful/
I am now convinced/.
RATS!! You mean we have to deal with another year of Boozer. What will he be
injured with next year? Cutting his toe nails too short, a paper cut that could
become infected. He is already severely overpaid for what he does (or doesn't
do). One more year of having him sit during the regular season only to disappear
during the playoffs.
Heck, that's the only fun we get. I still hear rumors of Stockton, Malone or
Eaton making a return to the game. If Hornacek orders a hot dog instead of a
hamburger at A&W it means he's been thinking about scratching his face before
making a free throw.I have lived in in Dallas, Houston, Indianapolis,
Denver Detroit and Cleveland. There ain't no fans nowhere who can speculate like
a Jazz fan. I remember Alonzo Mourning had a 2 hour layover in the SLC airport.
Next day it was in the papers he was considering coming to Utahr. Speculate. It's what we do best.
LET'S GET ON WITH IT, LET KEVIN AND GREG DO THEIR THING AND DO THEIR MATH AND
TRADE, GET THE BEST FOR THE PRICE AND THE UTAH JAZZ CAN DO SOME SERIOUS WINNING
THIS YEAR. I LIKE THEIR FOCUS AND YOU CAN BET THEY HAVE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE UP
THEIR SLEEVES!BOOZER COULD STAY AND CHANGE HIS ATTITUDE AND CONTRIBUTIONS
TO THE TEAM AND MAKE UTAH SHINE OR GET AN UPGRADE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THESE GUYS ARE
GOOD AND CAN PULL SOMETHING OFF I TELL YOU!! Watch Out!!!
Wasn't the deadline to declare 3pm? We've heard about Boozer, where's the
announcement from Memo?
"Quit hating on Boozer, the guy is a player. He played Cleveland and now he is
playing the Jazz."He's not playing anyone. He'll eat crow and
opt-in, then take a pay cut next year to sign with a team that's worse than the
Jazz. Meanwhile the Jazz pick up one of the many great PFs in the lottery next
year with their pick from the Knicks. Boozer was too clever by half this year
and got burned....
I personally would rather see the Jazz sign an unrestricted free agent from an
obscure European team named Ilka von Wangenstein. He is a toe-tapper from way
back who's got game!!!
if Millsap quit, Snoozie gone I hope the Jazz find away to get more help at
power forward even if cheaper variety.Paul does not have low post
abilities as BoozerDefense is not eithers strengths
Agree with Dave. I wish I could watch a live cam at the Jazz office to hear an
announcement from O'Connor. I'm betting Okur opts out - and then
agrees to an extension - the finishing touches are probably being applied to the
deal right now.And Boozer, unfortunately, will opt in. Detroit
doesn't want him badly enough. Boozer is a legend in his own mind. I'm going to
laugh if he has to take a pay cut next season.
Boozer will opt in. Okur will opt out. Millsap will get an offer. We will let
both go. We will trade Harpring and Korver for Turkalu SP?
I'd rather have Memo, Gortat and Milsap in a Jazz uniforn than Memo, Boozer and
Milsap. For that matter, I'd rather have Memo and Gortat than Memo, Boozer and
Milsap. More minutes for AK to play at the 4, where he fills up the stat sheet.
Okur meet with the Jazz about an extention, but no agreement was made. My guess
is that Okur wants a 5 year extension this season at 9 (current contract), with
a million dollar increase every year up to 14 million for 2014. The
Jazz are trying to get the contract down to 4 year and ending at 13 million on
2013. They are also trying to get the raise less. Boozer hasn't
spoken to the Jazz because they have not attempted to give him an extension
(Because they are going to resign Millsap). Boozer is realizing that the market
is not good (Detroit said they were interested, but not at 14 to 15 million a
year) I guessing Boozer does not opt out, and the Jazz trade his contract to
Detroit for Kwame Brown and CashMillsap is hoping to get a 10
million contract, but OKC won't offer him that much. It all depends on what
Memphis offers him. I think Memphis is going to make a make an offer to either
David Lee or Millsap which ever they can get cheaper. This is all
Oh man the excitement is mounting... any minute now we will hear about it...
this is better then waiting to see who the Jazz will draft
Quit hating on Boozer, the guy is a player. He played Cleveland and now he is
playing the Jazz.
well well well imagine my suprise"rumors have it Bill Laimbeer will
be offered the job per reports today in Detroit to replace CurryTrust me-If Laimbeer does better with the Pistons, than Sloan does for the
Jazz and "his sloanaholics"You will hear about it.........
Free AgentsOpt Out PlayerTurkogluVarejaoRestrictedMillsapDavid LeeMarvin WilliamsJosh
GordonMarionArizaOdomArtestVillenuevaAndrea MillerKidd BibbyIversonWallaceThese
are the top Free Agents. Unless they go back to the teams they are currently
signed with, the only teams that can sign them for over the cap money this
season is Detroit, Memphis, OK City and I think Portland is a little under the
cap. My Guess is that Millsap, Sessions, Odom, Ariza, and Marvin Williams are
the only team players that return to their teams. There is going to be 5 or 6
players on that list that will go for the Mid Level Exceptions this off season.
If either Boozer and Okur both opts out, that could mean the Jazz
could get a replacement for about 6 million a year. David Lee for example.
Bring back Booz - Please!!! We all need a good example to help us understand
that if he can't play perfectly healthy, 100% - why bother??? He's only hurting
the team if he "plays through the PAIN" so, that being said; if he is sore from
lifting - don't play! If he wakes up in the morning and his foot is asleep -
don't freakin' play! If on the way to the game someone cuts him off in traffic
- well for heaven sakes, his mind won't even be in it anyway! - so for the sake
of your team-mates and basketball fans everywhere - please don't play!!
How about New Coaches?New Gm and strategy to win!!Hear
the rumor Laimbeer is going to become an assistant with the Timberwolves. Will Sloan with encouraging support from "the sloanaholics" be able to find a
way to get Mr. Collins back in here and we go with 4 centers?Yeah
world title babyyy
1st - Get rid of D-Will! Build the team around Fez and Collins - that's the best
way to get a Ring Baby!2nd - Bring Hot Rod back, he'll help the
players "stop on a dime, and leave 7 cents change!" If the players hear catchy
phrases like "With a gentle push and a mild arch, the old cow hide globe hits
home!" They will believe in themselves and play beyond their potential!!3rd - Build a memorial shrine to Stockton & Malone, (oops we already
did) and for every home game just show hi-lights of the good ol' years, so we
can ignore the actual game!!!4th - Put a live mic on Sloan during
the TV & Radio broadcast and in the arena; that way our children can learn "real
world" phrases that will prepare them for "real life"!!!!
I think that AK will be moved back to the 4-spot where he plays best. Only one
of last year's PFs will be back.
the way I see it is the jazz need to start spending the money! Forget the luxury
tax! If this was next season, and Lebron, Wade, bosh, amare, etc were available
the luxury tax would not be on anyones mind. If the jazz want to be
contenders spend the money to do so! WE are 26the in the league when it comes to
salaries, and we need to start shelling out some money...no wonder why no one
wants to play in utah.Personally I think Boozer won't opt
out...either way, we need to keep okur and Milsap...Than we can ship carlos away
on a trade, and we won't get the better end of it, but our wallets will be a
little fatter. I say trade him to pistons for Prince or hamilton & a draft pick
or some money. We also need to shell out AK for a guy like camby or chandler.It will be an interesting summer, but please jazz spend some money to
get some great players!
Well well dear friends guess who just got fired?Michael Curry at
DetroitInteresting timingIS IT NOT?SOMETHING IS UP
It was a dumb move to do that at halftime, but that comment is on how he plays,
not what he does during halftime. Have you seen him play. If you ever want to
beat the Lakers, then we'll need athletes that can move their feet and alter
shots. Odom and Gasol will have a field day against any of our bigs, unless
maybe we play AK on Lamar. I'm not saying Villanueva is the only answer but that
type of player would be a start. We're 2 years away from being able to seriously
compete at best, so why not let all three (booz,millsap,okur) go and pursue
something to entice Deron to stay in the future.
Why is it that the rest of the world wants Jazz players and Jazz fans are always
looking to get rid of them?
Some of you guys kill me, we need to let Okur go so we can sign either Boozer or
Millsap. Please explain that to me? We lost to the Lakers mostly because of
length and health so we get rid of 1 of our tallest players who has missed the
least ammount of games. We can keep Okur as our PF and still get a C like Kaman
or Gorot or even dare i say it 'Sheed and suddenly the Lakers don't seem so big
anymore. Plus the dude likes being here and only want 10 mil per not 13 or
more!!!!!! Not so tough a choice to me. What's easier to trade a big man that
has great offensive skills at 10 mil or undersized PFs at 13 mil?
the Jazz management knew that things could go this way. They got 2 players in
the draft and the second one has 4 yr experience, shoots very well, rebounds and
defends and can play back up PF/C for .75 mill. The Jazz have all
season to work thru the problems (opportunties). If Boozer opts in he is quit
valuable in trade. If Millsap gets to expensive he is replaceable. Boozer will
be the starting PF for the first 1/2 year anyway.Okur will resign
for reasonable or he is more valuable in trade than Boozer. If he signs with a
non NBA team the Jazz keep his rights but get salary cap relief. In
the long run the Jazz need a better PF than Boozer. One that will defend and get
at least 16/10.They also need a better C than Okur. One who can bang
down low, defend and score.Koufos should be helpful. The Jazz have 2
years to put together a better team.They just need to be patient and
get the right players. This is the year to deal and get better.
I hope your joking about Iverson and McGrady. 20 Million plus a year for each.
Very funny mentioning them and the Jazz in the same sentence.
The Jazz can't afford any of those players that you mentioned without being in
even more trouble with the luxury tax. Plus AI is on the backside of his career,
T-Mac is injury prone and is going to miss AT LEAST the first half of next
season and Memo is a fairly similar player to Hedo, although probably less
If Boozer opts to stay with the Jazz for the upcoming season he and his expiring
contract will be on the trading block all the way till the trade deadline. He
will be a huge distraction for a young Jazz team that can't seem to handle
distractions. On the bright side, his expiring contract should be a huge asset
for trading. If the Jazz could swing a deal before the season starts for a
top-notch player from a rebuilding team maybe we can even make a run at the
We need Okur back more than either of our PFs. He wants the most reasonable
contract 10 mil per for a top 10 Center is not very much. Plus he loves being
here has been an ironman for the most part and is one of our top clutch players.
How many games have you been to that were won on a last second Okur shot? I've
been to at least 5 I can remember. Booz has had 1, and Millsap none. Both
Millsap and Booz want more than Memo and if you took the blinders off you'd
realize a guy that is 6'11" is more valuable than a guy that is listed at 6'8 or
6'9. Please come back Memo! We need you more than any other potential free
agents that we had last year.
You can't be serious. Iverson and Mcgrady? Please do us all a favor and never
post on this board again.Thanks!
to the eyepatch: Mcgrady is rumored not to be ready and come back till next
season all star break. Yao is such a tragedy...Allen Iverson?You got to be kidding.. Please say you are....
Here's hoping that Boozer can be traded. I see no way that he's opting out,
though, because no team will sign him now for what he's making next year, and in
the summer of 2010 there will be a lot more teams with cap space and better
financial stability. He'll take his 12 mil and probably get at least that next
yoffseason, even though he doesn't deserve it. The Jazz are a lot worse without
Boozer, but then again they were without him for a lot of time he was here!
I do not see Bosh coming here. I have reported repeatedly Bryan Colangelo does
not want to trade him.This may not be very popular but to be
truthful:Boozer should remain here unless they can pull off a
trade.Millsap is going to command too much-please do me a
favor...When he comes back for another team., please give him a rowsing thank
you and cheer for him to do well and do not boo him and always be a Millsap fan.
He cannot produce on Carlos Level at this point,Okur I have a
feeling will leave. We have enough and with 3 big guys we can rotate improve
our defense and maybe the 3 headed monster can match the 17 ppg.We
will be better off in the long runwith the lineup for this year anywayG-DWIL, BrewerPF Snoozie, AKCenter-Koustos (with
Fez and Goran seeing time), Miles, Harpring, Maynor, Korver, Krueger
make up the roster. Kevin is an incredible shooter and in some matchups he can
come off the bench with Kyle and the 2nd unit, with Matt, Miles, Goran or
Fez-would be an improved 2nd unit,
Please KOC trade Boozer for Bosh. If we really go into the luxury tax, we should
at least have someone that can get us the ring. Deron +AK47 +Bosh +Okur= 2010
champions, do it tomorrow!!!
Boozer is insane if he thinks he should start at $14 or $15 Million. He's missed
1/3 of his Utah games and is a very soft defender. Health is unpredictable and
lets too many points get by him. He simply thinks he's so much better than he
really is. Granted... he is a great player... but not considered "elite" and his
paycheck shouldn't be considered that either.
Allen Iverson, Hedo Turgolu, and Tracy McGrady are also possible free-agents.
How come I haven't heard their names mentioned with the Jazz.
...is not a hard working player. Unless you call tweeting at halftime of a game
Boozer, do us all a favor and move on. Your halfhearted style of play is a bad
example of what a real winner is all about...just ask Kobe!
I agree from Sloan's standpoint it makes sense to stay. I feel the team should
move on from the Sloan era, the only problem is... WHO else would make a good
coach? Personally, I'd like to see Avery Johnson coach this team. He could
inspire some toughness and provide a more relavant figure for the players to
Boozer do leave your are good but not great let the Jazz find somebody that
really wants to play the game every night not twice a month
There is not way the Jazz can keep Boozer and not go into the luxury tax - even
if we don't resign Millsap. If the Jazz really planed on going into the Luxury
Tax - they would have sold their draft (similar to LA) for 3 million dollars.
The Jazz are not paying 2.5 million Salary plus tax for a back up rookie point
guard when they could have sold it for 3 to 4 million.Boozer was not
in the end of the Game against LA - Millsap was. If Boozer opts out
he is going to Pistons, if he does not opt out the Jazz will trade him to the
Pistons for either Oberto or Kwame Brown and 2 million cash. Brown would then
be bought out from the Jazz. Either way Boozer is gone. The Jazz
Brass made this decision at the end of the season. The Jazz knows
they can have Millsap back for about 6 to 8 million a year. No team is going to
pay Millsap more than that in these conditions. Okur - I hope he
opts out and the Jazz let him go, but we will see
We can not overpay for Millsap! I've heard reports that Oklahoma City is
possibly offering 5yr 65mil contract. While that might not be true, the Jazz
can't match anything in that ballpark even if Booz is gone. I'm a big Millsap
supporter but he deserves maybe 9mil per year at best. Remember back when
Kirilinko was a hot commodity and we gave him the max deal not to lose him, well
this would be on par with that. We can get same type of player in Brandon Bass
for less money and probably a few others. Also, I'm not sure how much Villanueva
is commanding but if Booz and Millsap get the big money, we could go after him.
He's young, athletic, long and appears to be an aggressive, hard working player.
He could probably play 3, 4 or maybe even 5 against certain teams. If Millsap is
too expensive, I hope we let all 3 of our bigs go and completely rework our
front court with some athletes, then work on getting 2's and 3's that can shoot.
6 million a year, were already in the hall of fame, and had even a remote chance
for a ring, why would you quit? Further, if the Jazz are just going
to hand the team off to one of the assistants who will make no changes the team
may be better off with the experienced Sloan at the helm. I am not
advocating keeping Sloan. I think he has plenty of problems and is
indirectly/directly responsible for a lot of the team weaknesses.I
am just pointing out that he has no incentive to retire and collect SS. Jazz
management is going to have to make a decision to manage. If they want a better
team they at least have to consider the limitations of Sloan, his philosophies
and system. They also have to seriously consider the probability
that Sloan and his system are incapable of winning a ring. Further, his approach
to the game is more expensive than approaches used by other successful coaches.
Boozer: PLEASE opt out!The real interest by teams is going to be
for Millsap, and the Jazz are going to have a tough time matching offers from
Detroit and Oklahoma City for him if Boozer comes back.Watch for a
Boozer for Chris Bosh trade, though, if Boozer re-signs. Both would have
contracts expiring in 2010, both would have a new team (which they both want),
both would be motivated to put up great numbers, both would be better fits in
their new locations - Boozer could hog the shots and the rebounds and care more
about his personal numbers than wins - Bosh could play next to Millsap and
provide energy and defense that Boozer is incapable of. And the best reason is
that the Jazz would have a great chance to re-sign Bosh next year - Boozer is
gone either way.
Couldn't agree more with the assessment of the OKC GM on Sap. Paying $9-10M a
year for a roll player is ridiculous, unless you have a complete star and are
surrounding him, which the Jazz do not have.Please do not burden
this team with another overpriced contract for a guy that is better suited off
...take one this opportunity to stick it to the Jazz one last time by NOT opting
out.If he stays we are at $65 million WITHOUT OKUR and MILLSAP!!
The luxury tax threshold will likely be 68 to 70 million which means we will
have a difficult time signing Millsap OR OKUR.The only other option
is to sign them all then unload some of them before the trade deadline thereby
avoiding having to pay the luxury tax.Boozer, his big mouth, his
ego, his lies about promising to opt out, his pr, are all just plagues!!This guy could make things difficult on this organization for the rest
of this season AND SEASONS TO COME UNLESS THE JAZZ GET BOLD AND SIGN WHO THEY
REALLY WANT TO KEEP AND BANK ON BEING ABLE TO UNLOAD BOOZ FOR SOME OTHER TEAM
MAKING A RUN A CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T AFFORD 15 TO 18 MILLION IN
LUXURY TAX!!BIG DAY!!I guess there is also a sign and
be able to run PHI's offense well. However, he rarely ran the Jazz offense
better than Knight and Knight had serious limitations.The Jazz would
be best served to get a veteran back up PG who can run the offense and shoot for
a year. By then Maynor should be able to handle it.Price was 2 mill
a year. This year there are some better options for that money.