The Utah Jazz Puzzle

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  • The weakness of the Vet
    June 30, 2009 10:34 a.m.

    bias is showing now. Vets cost more, especially if you over pay them and they get 10% raises built into their salaries every year you keep them.

    Especially if you keep them longer than you should and procrastinate signing your younger players to long term contracts before they become free agents.

    Let the Vets become free agents and see what they are really worth?

    In this current environment, teams that are aggressive in managing their rosters and salary cap are the most successful.

    Sloan's philosophy of continuity is wrong. It is especially wrong if you do not have the right combination of players in place and then perpetuate the mistake until you bust the luxury tax.

    Many but not all of the problems the Jazz face can be traced directly to Sloan's coaching philosophies.

    He may have been right a decade ago but the game has changed. His biases against 3 point shooting and younger players are major problems that hold the Jazz back. His failure to create a decent defense is a serious problem.

    Jazz management need to seriously review their philosophy and correct Sloan outdated approaches.

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 9:14 a.m.

    First MLE is for one player I just listed multiple of free agents (Childress, Marion, Artest)- poorly written and I know you can't sign all of them. You also have the Bi-annual exception which is about 2 million for a Hill or Smith

    I am not saying keep Collins. Van Horn, a Retired player, signed a contract with Dallas for 4 million with only 1 million guaranteed. They then traded his contract for Jason Kidd. NJ bought out Van Horn. That is what I mean with Collins. I do not mean keep him. A contract of 4 million but only 1 million guaranteed is easily traded because it instance cap relief.

    CJ is not expiring, and Korver is valuable. Clippers have Camby, Kamen, Randolph and Griffen. One of them will be traded this off season - Most likely Camby. All over the News

    You don't need cap space to sign a player in the 2010 for the Mid level Exception. You get one per year

    Total Salary - 68 Million

  • give me the ball
    June 30, 2009 8:38 a.m.

    Boozer although not popular with the Jazz fans is a stud in his game.

    Millsap wants 10 million, Boozer gets 12 million. Sorry Paul you are not anywhere close to Boozers ability to score or present a threat to other defenses, nor are you close to superstar status.

    Brewer can't score from outside which hurts us as each defense now can afford to drop a man inside to guard Boozer.

    Korver coming back just messes us up. He did not come close to hitting the clutch shots that Memo had to hit, he passes or misses whenever the pressure is on but he fits the clean cut mold Jazz fans want.

    Jazz keep drafting big men who can't play, wrap all of them up, sell them, trade them and get Gortat here. He runs the floor faster than most guards and takes guff off nobody and seems to keep free of too many fouls.

    We need another player to assist Deron and Boozer, note Boston, Lakers, Spurs all had 3 players that defenses had to worry about. Note all thos teams have had recent rings.

    Boozer choose to stay, we may not like you but we need you.

  • Jazz 2009
    June 30, 2009 8:34 a.m.

    Maybe Mike Krzyzewski knew what he was doing when Boozer sat on the bench during the Olympics. Can we get him for the Jazz?

  • get rid of booz and ak
    June 30, 2009 8:09 a.m.

    I say drop boozer or trade him for david lee(they get expiring contract and more things to draw lebron), trade ak to anyone who will take him, and pick up turkalo. Who knows maybe even a trade with the bobcats picking up raja bell, gerald wallace, and either okafor or diaw for boozer, ak, and someone else. Gives you better all around play if you ask me.

  • OKC may offer Millsap
    June 30, 2009 7:00 a.m.

    65M for 5 years. That is Boozer's salary.

  • magnus
    June 29, 2009 9:57 p.m.


    Your close but not quite there yet.

    First of all the MLE is cumulative so if you sign one player to a 5 million dollar deal can't sign anyone else using MLE money, so pick one of those guys you listed and the Jazz MIGHT be able to get them.

    Second pastor is right, by even bringing up Collins you have destroyed all of your credibility.

    Third, Camby has an expiring contract, so why would the clipper trade him for expiring contracts? As far as I can tell right now the only big on the market who could be had for expiring contracts is Tyson Chandler.

    Fourth, none of what you talked about would make them any better than if they just kept everybody they have now and ran with it, in fact it would probably make them alot worse.

    Fifth, Only if they let everybody go including Millsap) and picked up scrubs on 1 year contracts for this year, would they have enough cap room to sign a top tier free agent 2010, adn that is the only way.

  • pastor88
    June 29, 2009 7:34 p.m.

    Why would we want to sign Collins at any guaranteed money?
    If we were going to sign a veteran for that kind of money wouldn't it make sense to sign a veteran that might actually do something other than look stupid on the bench.
    As much as this community and Sloan ostercized Tag, he was betterfor the team than Collins and Harpring together.Check the stats and compare.Collins,Haarpringand Miles are the continuation of bad deals for KOC.

  • Blauch
    June 29, 2009 6:04 p.m.

    I guess I will call them majority of teams money players

    I like Boozer and Memo, but one of them will be gone (probably Boozer). I actually would like to see both go for nothing. That gives the Jazz flexibilty

    Jazz money to resign Millsap.

    We would have the mid level exception to offer contracts to Artest, Ariza, Lee, Josh Childress, Harrington, Marion, and you could sign a couple of veterans Grant Hill or Joe Smith.
    Not to mention all the free agents who will be available 2010

    Because Collins is a NBA Veteran he can sign a 4 million with only 1 million guaranteed, and he can be traded for A team looking for cap space like New Orleans - Butler who is a better 3 point shooter and defender than Korver

    We could trade Korver and Miles for Camby - since they both come off the books. That opens time for Blake and give the Clips a shooter.

    Or we could trade Harpring and Collins (see above) for Tyson Chandler.

    The Jazz could build a really good team, but if all the money goes to AK/Williams/Okur/Boozer they are out of options

  • magnus
    June 29, 2009 4:34 p.m.


    That's fine if you wan't to define "max" that way, but all you are doing is causing confusion. In the NBA vernacular if you say "Max Money" or "Max Player" you are talking about contracts worth the maximum allowable dollar amount allowed under the CBA. D-Will and AK have "Max Money" contracts, Boozer and Okur do not, and will not get them from anybody this year.

    All the rest of what you say is absolutely true, but not all bad.

    The Jazz have stated that they intend to keep Millsap, even if they go over the cap. I think they keep their promise regardless, unless he gets an offer for 9+ million a year, then they would be stupid to pay more than that to keep him.

    I think this is a win-win for the Jazz as long as they don't blow it by letting both Boozer and Okur walk. If Boozer doesn't optout they will have 20+ Mil in expiring salaries to deal if they want to go that route, or they can just keep him, pay the tax one year, and then let them go after next year.

  • jazz fan
    June 29, 2009 3:40 p.m.

    dump the booz lets win some games

  • Blauch
    June 29, 2009 12:34 p.m.


    Every team that doesn't win the Championship failed. I love the Jazz, I think they are great, but they failed. Winning 62% of your games and 50% of your playoff series doesn't cut it.

    When I say max money - I am talking about the 2 to 4 players most of the team's money is going to. Last season - AK, Boozer and Okur were paid 35 million out of the 65 million the entire team spent - Those are the max players. SA paid 40 million out of their 70 million to 3 player. LA paid 47 out of 75 to their 3 player.

    The Jazz gave Williams a new contract for 15 million. That puts AK, Williams, Boozer and Okur salaries at 51.8 million assuming they don't opt out. The Jazz are not going 10 million over the Luxury Tax. Even if we don't resign Millsap the Jazz salary is at 75 million (5 million over the cap - Not including the raises Okur and Boozer are getting. The Jazz are not doing it. So if we trade Boozer for someone equal the salary is still there.

    What should the Jazz do?

  • magnus
    June 29, 2009 11:51 a.m.

    @ Blauch

    I'm pretty sure you don't know what the word "Max money" means. Boozer and Okur did not get "Max" contracts, not by a long shot. Okur got a deal that was about half of the Max contract and Boozers was about 3/4ths of a Max deal.

    Both were considered gambles at the time, but since both of them ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO ASK FOR A RAISE right now it seems like a bit of a reach to call either of them a failure. Furthermore, while you are right about the 5 years, what you neglect is that over the last 3 years the Jazz won 62% of their games and the three before that they won 44% of their games.

    Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time calling winning 62% of your games over 3 years while never breaking the salary cap and winning 3 playoff series despite having one of the youngest teams in the playoffs every year failure.

    But I guess that's just me.

    To me the failure will be if they let thim all walk for nothing while they are in their prime, that would be failure.

  • Psuedohoax
    June 29, 2009 11:47 a.m.

    Maybe the NBA should look into short term/long term disability for it's employees, like the rest of the country does?
    When I'M too sick or injured to work, I only get a percentage of my pay! Otherwise, what would be the incentive to return to work?
    Or maybe I could just come to work, sit behind my coworkers in a nice suit while they bust their butts, then after work tell the media that I deserve a raise. All while receiving full pay for not working. Would that work?

  • Blauch
    June 29, 2009 11:00 a.m.

    With Williams getting a max contract. One of the three (Boozer, AK or Memo) will be off the Jazz's books. Unless you have no bench, (Phoenix last season and San Antonio this season) you can only carry 3 max players. AK is under contract, he is overpaid and has 2 more years left on contract , the Jazz cannot trade him unless they take equal salaries. (AK might be the most valuable of the 3 players - His +/- over the 5 years was 833 compared to Boozer at 332 and Okur at 268. - The Jazz as a team was 451 which means the Jazz did not which means when Boozer/Okur were on the bench the Jazz had a positive +/-)
    So either Memo or Boozer is going to be gone this year. The Jazz are not running with 4 max players along with Korver, Harpring at mid level exception contracts.

    Boozer will be gone. He was sitting on the bench at the end of last playoff game. The Jazz will trade him or let him go if he opt out. The Jazz should Trade Okur also, I love Okur, but him being a max player does not bring championship.

  • magnus
    June 29, 2009 10:47 a.m.

    The other thing you need to consider is that Rip isn't happy with Curry right now and he threw a bit of a fit when he had to share time with Iverson. While they say they would like Gordon and Hamilton sharing the backcourt, I wonder if they have been setting him up as trade bait all along.

  • Blauch
    June 29, 2009 10:47 a.m.

    Let's break it down
    2004 thru 2009, The Jazz paid 3 players max money - AK, Boozer and Okur over 5 year (AK first year of the 5 was on his rookie salary that is why he has 2 years left). It was unorthodox move (the biggest guy was the best shooter, the smallest guy was the best shot blocker/defender the middle guy was the best low post player). Over the 5 years the Jazz won 55% of their games and 3 playoff series. In the end, it was a failure. We know what AK, Boozer and Memo can do, and none of them are going to get better than they already are - They are what they are. You cannot win a championship built around them

    Positive: During that time the Jazz drafted 3 successful rookies (Williams, Brewer, and Millsap) who have all exceeded everyone's exception. William is one of the 5 best point guards in the league and Brewer and Millsap are improving each year as both were invited to the USA prelim tryouts. This season Williams became a max player, Millsap and Brewer and will get larger contracts this year and next.

  • Jazz Fan
    June 29, 2009 8:53 a.m.

    Here's hoping Okur and Korver stay with the Jazz! They contribute more than basketball to the state of Utah!

  • Fes and Koof
    June 29, 2009 7:44 a.m.

    All of you who think the young Centers are ready to play based upon their numbers/40 minutes are forgetting one number: 236 fouls/40 minutes. Neither of these guys are figured out how to stay on the floor. Too often when Fes would actually get in the game he would end up with a line like: 17 miutes, 4 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, 5 fouls. Great production for 17 minutes, but it's tough to play him more where he could foul out at any minute. Tough to rely on a guy that can't stay on the floor.

  • todd from santa ana
    June 29, 2009 1:13 a.m.

    I agree the decisions are not easy, no one said they were. I agree Boozer is a good player, many times in the posts I and others have commented that Millsap cannot adequately replace him. I could be wrong, just do not see it unless he really adds some things to his game. There are so many things we do not know privately. People can improve with hard work. If Ron Brewer who I like personally and as a terrific athlete, would work all summer on his jumper, hundreds of shots daily and start knocking them down with semi regularity what this would do to improve the Jazz.

    People misconstrue. The Jazz 2 draft picks are good players. I did not say Maynor was not good. To me to utilize guys now and not in the future is what to me matters. He is a scorer first it seems, not to belittle the passing. If he played as a #2 let us say to back up Brew and either Price run backup point or CJ gets a chance, We need the extra punch back there. Especially if Korver leaves.

    Key is better defense particular in the middle.

  • magnus
    June 28, 2009 11:47 p.m.

    @ Todd

    Three things

    #1 the Iverson trade wasn't about winning last season, it was about right now, about positioning an aging team to rebuild quickly and positioning to be one of the only buyers in a market where everyone else is looking to sell, Dumars knows what he's doing.

    #2 Boozer may not be anything more than a mercinary, but he is a "character" guy. He conducts himself with class, he doesn't get in trouble with the law, and regardless of what Jazz fans think he seems like a good teamate.

    #3 Bozer is a good player, and Detroit is interested, they just don't want to over pay. If he is willing to take under 13 Million a year I think they take him in a heartbeat.

  • Anonymous
    June 28, 2009 10:57 p.m.

    Boozer shouldn't and won't be in a Jazz uni next season. Jazz must focus in resign Okur/Millsap. Koufos and Fesenko had some good looking stats if you take into account the games they started or played regular time. It's time to go with them.

  • todd to magnus
    June 28, 2009 10:49 p.m.

    with Dumars quotes over the weekend about Austin Daye bringing in "character" cmon do you think he is going after Snoozer? They know AI was horrible decision. Kwame Brown is Kwame Brown. The "sheed" is leaving (that is a guy I would like but he and Sloan well no comment), I would LOVE RIP FOR US, HOWEVER, is the "snoozer" someone they want?

    any way there is a coach that makes Sloan look like Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach, Mr. Curry

    That team stinks. If O connor can get Rip part of deal with Kwame that you like for Cap issues, And we can get rid of "Snoozie" wow maybe O COnnor will be up for "executive of the year"

    He might have the state at its feet.

    Why do you not call him and propose? After all we the fans have to do most of O Connors work for him

  • Does anyone know how
    June 28, 2009 10:47 p.m.

    much of Harps contract is non guaranteed? Only the guaranteed part counts against the cap. Can they buy him out and resign him later?

    The Jazz will need to get down to 58 mill or so to bid on FAs. Okur opting will get them to 62 (close).

  • magnus
    June 28, 2009 9:42 p.m.

    Good article.

    Buckley is a real solid beat writer. He and Siler over at the Trib put the "old dogs" like Rock to shame.

    If I'm Detroit here's what I do...

    I sign Gordon, Gortat, and maybe Ariza to deals and I talk Boozer and the Jazz into a sign and trade for Hamilton.

    Put those four together with Prince, McDyess, Brown, Bynum and Stuckey and you've got a real solid squad.

  • Anonymous
    June 28, 2009 7:02 p.m.

    what? if the Pistons can't afford Boozer then Boozer has no choice but to stay with Utah for one more year? that is a bad news, someone must do something about that, we the Jazz fans can't afford as well to see Boozer back in the lineup for Utah next season, that is really a bad news for all of us, good luck to us all

  • macnamara
    June 28, 2009 5:27 p.m.

    When are you people going to wake up to reality. Kirilenko and his contract are the real problem here? I hope you jerks get what you want! You're going to find out quickly, that Boozer is not that easy to replace.....And Milsap ain't gonna do it....At any price!

  • If Boozer does not opt out...
    June 28, 2009 5:13 p.m.

    ...Look to trade him. The expiring contract has got to be worth something. Trading Booz for a long, defensive oriented center and moving Okur to the 4 would be sweet!!

    Or send him to Orlando for Turkoglu in a sign and trade.

  • and all this time it was right
    June 28, 2009 4:57 p.m.

    in front of the Jazz!!! sign Like Neville and put Carlo's Boozer on the Flash!! 'Duh'

  • Searce
    June 28, 2009 3:50 p.m.

    I would hope that if Boozer does not opt out, and he does not start the season out strong, the Jazz ought to sit his butt on the bench until he does decide to play or until the Jazz are able to trade him. This would not be a good situation. If he decides to play half-heartedly and gets benched, or not, he will not get traded because no one will want him. He will also hurt himself, because the Jazz will not re-sign him - no one will give him a big contract - maybe no one will even want him for mid-level $'s. His only option is to play his heart out this season - that would help both hiself and the Jazz, for a number of reasons.

  • Searce
    June 28, 2009 3:42 p.m.

    RE: Anonymous - 7:41 AM

    You always start your comments "I want . . . .". Are you part owner of the Jazz? - do you have information the rest of us do not have? Do you think just because you "want" this or that, the Jazz will accomodate your desires. I am tired of your "I want" rants. You are not going to get anything that you want, unless a miracle happens. Don't hold your breath.

  • todd a bad idea
    June 28, 2009 2:30 p.m.

    Korver one person gang, Actually it is not worried about selling tickets, but get a team to ensure we will not say "tickets will be harder to sell"

  • A Good Idea
    June 28, 2009 2:20 p.m.

    Surely there is a PF out there better than Boozer! Why keep a guy that doesn't like Utah! Let him go! But figure out a way to keep Okur and Korver! Extend their contracts a few years! With Korver's wrist on the mend he should be the outside threat the Jazz need. Don't let Korver get away. Korver sells tickets like crazy!

  • Boozer
    June 28, 2009 2:19 p.m.

    In my opinion, I believe that Carlos Boozer will opt out. He already said that he intended to do so and if he were to backtrack and stay with Utah for his final year, he will just add to the drama of an already shaky relationship. He won't get 14 or 15 million a year, but he may be willing to sign for less just so he can leave Utah and start somewhere fresh. On another note, I really hope Utah does something to improve their roster. Just take a look at what some of the other good teams are doing and it's plain to see they are getting better and Utah needs to do something else as well or it will be another first round playoff exit.

  • Hollywood
    June 28, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    Boozer will not opt out unless he has a deal in place (unofficially, of course). If the destination is Detroit, maybe he signs for a bit less in Year 1, with maximum raises after that.

    I think KOC is sending a clear message that if Carlos comes back, it's only for 1 year. He's burned too many bridges, missed too many games, let too many opposing PF's score uncontested layups with his matador defense.

    But coming back may not be a bad thing. As others have noted, he'd be playing for a big contract when a lot of teams will have cap space in 2010. He'd play through minor injuries and probably have a monster year, since anything less would destroy his market value.

    Or, KOC could trade his expiring contract of $12.9M.

    I think Miller hopes he opts out so they don't have to pay the luxury tax.

    Remember how well the Jazz played with Deron, Millsap, Okur, Miles and Brewer during the big winning streak? Yes, we had a favorable schedule. But the Jazz also had a lot of ball movement. Everyone was involved in the offense.

    Sayonara, Boozer.

  • Dixie Dan
    June 28, 2009 1:05 p.m.

    Big name free agents are NOT going to be beating a path to play in small market SLC. Keep what you have and be thankful.

  • re: Jazz Puzzle
    June 28, 2009 12:26 p.m.

    By far the worst re-sign in Jazz history is AK, next is probably Harpring. They are both extremely overpaid, while Miles is not regardless of your delusional opinion of him. CJ does play defense, better than Harpring and Korver, and you can't find many players in the NBA that are his age and put up better numbers.

  • akk
    June 28, 2009 12:00 p.m.

    I hope Boozer opts in... we trade him for Tyson Chandler(Hornets want an expiring contract) Resign Okur that gives us the ability to play them together. Resign Milsap for resonable amount... if not let him go and use that money plus trading expiring contracts(Korver,Harpering)to upgrade the two. Kirlinko and Koufus could back up the 4&5... slide Brewer to the 3 and try and trade Miles for anything

  • Maybe AK ???
    June 28, 2009 10:34 a.m.

    You are forgetting AK,he can play the 3 way better than CJ Miles,allows Brewer/Korver to split time at the 2 and a healthy Harpring can sub some at both spots,but either way MILES NEEDS TO GO>>>HE IS WORTHLESS

  • Jazz Puzzle
    June 28, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    Is missing 2 important pieces,a REAL CENTER,who rebounds/blocks shots/plays good smart defense,and a 3 who plays a complete game,our options at the SF are Harp,Brewer or???? but Miles is not the answer,he`s lazy,very poor rebounder and PLAYS ZERO DEFENSE,he is probably the worst re-sign in Jazz history please go after a true 5 and a 3

  • a raise
    June 28, 2009 9:49 a.m.

    Let's say you(boozer) have a co-worker(AK) whose effort and production, undeniably, is far below yours. He also happens to get paid a GREAT deal more than you do... about $5 more... You wouldn't want a raise??????????? I sure would feel like I deserve one if AK was on my team and making more than anyone!

  • Let's remember
    June 28, 2009 9:44 a.m.

    Let's all remember that D-will only signed a 3 year extension for a reason... he wanted to see that the Jazz were serious about staying competitive and getting more competitive. Getting rid of Boozer does the exact opposite.... Tanking it for a season and getting draft picks is not going to make our best player happy. If you don't want Booz, make a sign and trade happen for someone quality. Can't lose him for nothin or we will be in big trouble...

  • Millsap
    June 28, 2009 9:31 a.m.

    Millsap is NOT the answer! If we let Booz go, we HAVE to do a sign and trade.... Millsap is undersized and extremely limited offensively. I love the effort and drive, but it can only take you so far. The lakers front line continually abused millsap in the playoffs.... We would be bound for years of mediocrity with millsap as our starting 4.

  • AK A PF are you Kidding?
    June 28, 2009 9:30 a.m.

    Where does this skinny frail man get that definition of anything to do with power? Get real fans AK can't play power forward on offense or defense in this league against the elite teams! Flat CAN"T. Send him on his way to another destination and let his helter skelter unreliable play be on display in someone elses colors! He's way, way overpaid to begin with. As for Booze I just pray each night now that he will opt OUT! Keep Milsap only if the price is right! I'll live with whats left with a couple additions.

  • please....
    June 28, 2009 9:29 a.m.

    You people aren't thinking with your heads on straight.... If you recall, the 2 seasons before last, Boozer played over 75 games. In our first year back in the playoffs in 07 he played better than anyone on the team in leading us to the western finals, highlighted by continually torching Yao in the first round. When Booz played we have won... we lose when he doesn't. He has never actually said he wants to leave, and no one from the locker room has said he's a problem there either. Why aren't we all freaking out about someone else on the roster who very VERY rarely shows any effort or desire, who is the first to leave practice daily, and who has to be more of a cancer than boozer? That would be Andrei Kirilenko. Ak's contract is one of the worst in the league, and he, unlike boozer, has actually come out and said on a couple of occasions that he wants out. If you look at total games missed over the last 5 years, ak has missed almost as many as boozer.

  • i like all of the opinion that
    June 28, 2009 9:15 a.m.

    i've read about this article. some figure booz is going to new jersey, some figure detroit, some figure that he and his agent both are going to retract their own words and actually make less with a new deal. i think that unless there are any reports that he is offered more than what the jazz are willing to pay and he signs with whatever team that may be then congrats. i wont be surprised if he re-signs with the jazz at all. the only thing i'll be surprised by is if the jazz actually DO give him an undeserving $2-3 mil raise. millsap is far from worth any more than $7-8 mil at most (AK47 sound familiar?). korver IS leaving. i'm iffy about memo as well.

  • Doug
    June 28, 2009 9:11 a.m.

    This whole 4-5 years with Boozer really hasn't done anything positive for the Jazz. It gave them a bad name once they signed him when he went under the table and broke is contract with Cleveland. He is a constant hurt prone guy who if jumps wrong gets hurt for a year. Look at Millsap, he filled in perfectly, no complaints, ego not out of control. We need to focus on him, let Boozer go and we will have a better team for it.

    Keep everyone else if we can, and we should have drafted Dejuan Blair to be Millsaps backup. That would have been the best. Now we got to deal with him at San Antonio.

  • Observation-ist
    June 28, 2009 9:09 a.m.

    Can anyone explain to me why the contract expiration date, or the date when Boozer must make this decision is AFTER the draft? Perhaps it's a standard NBA contract provision, but it seems extremely unwise (I'm being nice with that term) to permit this decision after the draft.

    Boozer isn't coming back. His rhetoric about it being the Jazz decision is an opt-out, stay-out phrase. The decision is his also. He has the opt-out decision AND he has the decision to work cooperatively to get a deal done here (like Okur). To some degree, we can't complain. The Jazz knew when they stole him from Cleveland, that Boozer is driven by money.

    I do wonder what 'number' the Jazz have in their heads to offer Boozer. It's conceivable to me that they offer him less than he's making now if they have to pony up significant dollars for Milsap. In that scenario, Detroit could offer more than the Jazz new 'number' but less than his current contract is worth. He would then go to Detroit for less than he would have been paid here, pre-opt out. SWEET!

  • VegasJazzFan
    June 28, 2009 8:51 a.m.

    to "What happens if he does stay?" ... you say Boozer would "give a half-hearted season". But if we think about it, he would probably have a reason in his mind to play harder and with more passion if he knows he's auditioning for a new contract with the Jazz or another team, since he would be in the final year of any guaranteed money this coming season. It happens quite often with players in their "contract year"... suddenly their overall play, etc., improves. Of course I hope we can keep Millsap without overpaying, but a healthy-ankled D-Will and a motivated Boozer might make for a pretty good "core" afterall... at least for now.

  • TheHailstorm
    June 28, 2009 8:51 a.m.

    Please get rid of Boozer and keep the new kids . I love Koufas and maybe the Bosnian can pound some sense into FEZ. If we don't do well this year , so what ? We have a pick from the Knicks and a higher draft pick of our own.for 2010.
    Boozer cost the Jazz brass over 13 million dollars while just being injured and he is not good , drops the passes and throws the ball away in the fourth quarter.
    Start without CJ,COLLINS,Knight,Boozer and Almond.
    Let the new kids get some real experience , and move on. Giving Boozer enough money to but a third world country is not an good idea or option for the future !Q !

  • Idjazz12
    June 28, 2009 8:19 a.m.

    I say let him opt in and then resign Milsap and then start Milsap and make Boozer the backup. Now that would be fun to watch at least that would be entertaining for the year. Especially where Boozer said he was a starter period.

  • Nick
    June 28, 2009 7:58 a.m.

    Boozer is gonna be gone. Whether it's this off season or next. I don't see him staying here, and maybe the Jazz are better off moving in a direction without him. I'd kinda like to see Kirilenko playing the 4 position again, like he was when he became an allstar. I don't think we'd be better, but I'm getting sick of dealing with Boozer. He's like having a double-edged sword. It's been a sweet/sour experience with him in Utah, and I wouldn't mind the Jazz moving on without him.

  • What happens if he does stay?
    June 28, 2009 7:45 a.m.

    Everyone knows Boozer does not want to be here. IF he does stay because of financial reasons...he will give a half-hearted season, maybe another injury and it will be a waste. For the sake of the Jazz, I hope he leaves.

  • Anonymous
    June 28, 2009 7:41 a.m.

    I just want this over, so the Jazz can work on the 2010-2011 season; when they have a possible lottery pick in the draft. The present needs to be adressed too though, so they don't look foolish for the comming season.

  • Moves
    June 28, 2009 5:56 a.m.

    1. Sloan loves continuity

    2. KOC does not have to do anything most years due to 1.

    3. The Jazz tend to over pay based on 1 and 2.

    4. Utah is getting left in the dust by elite teams who know this is the time to improve and are doing it.

    5. Giving Boozer a raise and a long term contract is riskier than getting some one else. He is injury prone (like 3 over paid WAS players). He is not capable of beating the best teams. His numbers are inflated by the Jazz system that features the PF. If he is on a normal team with a prolific SG and a normal C his numbers drop. He is replaceable with someone who will play D and put up the same or better numbers in this system. The Jazz can do better.

    6. No raise. No long term contract.

    7. The Jazz organization suffers from a bias against active management. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" will get your butt kicked hard in a competitive environment.

    8. It is broke you just won't admit it.

  • rvalens2
    June 28, 2009 2:49 a.m.

    Sorry Carlos, no Mega-Contract for you this year. Your injuries, the economy and the stars have aligned against you.

    In my opinion, Boozer opts out and signs for a bit more money with Detroit. Nothing huge but enough so he can leave Utah smiling.

    If he stays. He is going to end up with a lot of EGG on his face. I don't believe Carlos is willing to swallow his pride.

    It's too BIG for his throat.