Unitarians assemble in S.L. for peace

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  • Hello!!!
    June 30, 2009 6:51 a.m.

    To Donovan,

    I am not going to explain the nature of the Bible to you or to anyone; it is powerful enough to stand on it's own. Not all the inspired men were dirt farmers, Paul was a well educated man who speaks more than one languages. Oh, did I say Luke was a medical doctor.

    Have a good day.

  • Sandy
    June 29, 2009 8:17 a.m.

    Hi Californian,

    I am a Unitarian-Universalist. UUism is not an "anything-goes" arrangement. If you are interested, go to UUA.org to learn a bit about our denomination. Among other things, we are bound by our seven principles, whether we are Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, Pagan...we share common values and common goals, which include supporting all people in the search for truth and meaning.

    Peace to you, Californian.

  • Californian #1@94131
    June 28, 2009 10:42 p.m.

    ** "...which is inclusive of everyone" **

    Yeah, we know what you're hinting at.

    Most religions are inclusive of everyone. But some (perhaps most) religions also have expectations of people. True religion is not an anything-goes arrangement where people are under no obligation to a higher power. It is mutual and interactive, where God blesses people, people follow Him, and people bless each other.

    What those who accuse some religions of not being "inclusive" really want is license, not agency.

  • Clare
    June 28, 2009 10:41 p.m.

    I can't believe the mean spiritness of some of these comments. Everyone has a right to believe what they want to. It is wrong to insult other religions or beliefs. How can I expect other people to respect my beliefs if I don't respect theirs? I may disagree with their beliefs, but they have a right to them. Shame on those above who have written such downright intolerant thoughts.

  • Brandon
    June 28, 2009 10:35 p.m.

    I am very interested in learning about Unitarian Universalism myself. I plan to attend a service within the next few weeks. Their tolerant attitudes and openness toward diverse ideas appeals to me very much.

  • Outsider
    June 28, 2009 9:06 p.m.

    Regardless of the venom spewing out on these posts, I have come to the conclusion that the people of Salt Lake City must be pretty good bunch of folks. The Southern Baptists had their Convention there. The Unitarian Universalists had their Conference there. I think the Mormons must really be practicing their Religion regarding letting "all men worship according to the dictates of their own conscience". Otherwise, why would so many people want to hold conventions in SLC? Thanks Utah. This Catholic would love to visit your city.

  • Pat
    June 28, 2009 8:02 p.m.

    Well, Donovan, There`s not much can be done with a grown person labeling those inspired by God to "write" the Bible as "dirt farmers", who were simply ignorant (and probably dirty) and therefore "knew nothing".

    In your simple uneducated mind, of course, the centuries of historical study and the fulfillments of most of Biblical prophesies, not to mention constant fulfillment of religeous fulfillment of prayer (against all odds) mean nothing. Sorry, Donovan for the "blind" like you who likely have to look at your hands, etc to be sure they`re even there. Sad

  • Peggy
    June 28, 2009 5:59 p.m.

    I am a Utah Unitarian and I attended the Sunday Morning Worship Service this morning in the Salt Palace (which was, by the way, open to everyone, it was not only for Unitarian Universalists (UU) or for those registered for General Assembly (GA)). This posting is for "Welcome" and for all of those non-UUs who had interactions with GA attendees. I just wanted to tell you that those UUs attending from other states told me SLC citizens had been most welcoming and kind and that they had enjoyed their stay in SLC. I wanted to say Thank You to all of you for your graciousness to my fellow UUs from other states. - And I want to add: the UUs there were from not only the US but from other countries: I met a UU minister from Angolia this morning who told me our religion has been in his country since 1917!

  • Donovan
    June 28, 2009 5:06 p.m.

    Since most people know that the Bible was written by uneducated dirt farmers, why should most people want to rule their lives on the dirt farmers rants?
    Religion can be a good thing. That is any religion out there. There are good and bad people in every religion. If people don't want fairy tales to be the main factor in a belief system, what does it matter to anybody? There should be respect for all oppinions other than your own. Even if they are silly.(Pat)

  • RE: Anonymous
    June 28, 2009 3:26 p.m.

    They deny the creeds;they deny the inerrancy of the Bible,no room for them their is no intersection of Faith and Reason. They are secular humanist without a moral compass(the Bible).

  • re: Pat
    June 28, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    Pat, you do no favors for religion when you sound arrogant and disdainful of others who believe differently than you. It gives them fodder for arguments like xscribe.

    One comment even mentioned the dominant Utah religion so some may think you are LDS and become even more negative toward LDS or other organized religions.

    Dialogue handled with respect and love, even with differences of opinion, tend to be a lot more effective.

  • xscribe
    June 28, 2009 1:12 p.m.

    Wow, Pat! Hopefully since the Des posted your vitriolic comment, they'll post this: You are the gullible one. Religion should be eliminated from the earth. Name me more than a couple of wars that don't have religion behind them in some way. Believing that there is one "thing" controling "everything" is about as gullible as it comes, but you just keep on giving your money to the churches and keep making them rich with your gullibility.

  • To Pat
    June 28, 2009 12:58 p.m.

    Since you sound irrational, I'm going to have to vote with the Unitarians who are spiritual, but also value reason.

    Blind faith can be dangerous.

  • Anonymous
    June 28, 2009 12:48 p.m.

    Pat if you had studied about the Enlightenment, you would know that in this belief system the power of god is rational. By being more rational, you become closer to god. This idea puts you in change. You are responsible to seek enlightenment and not conformity.

    Free Masons like Jefferson and Washington were products of the enlightenment. The dominate religion in Utah uses beehives, eyes of enlightenment, pentagrams and many masonic symbols.

  • Pat
    June 28, 2009 12:35 p.m.

    Lovely religeon?
    Welcome to salt Lake City?
    Do you have a clue about anything other than trying to "feel good" about words shoveled out in your direction??
    The REAL meaning of "things" are important, not the purposely misleading sweet-sounding "picture" presented!

    Do you actually KNOW what Unitarians BELIEVE??
    Look it up! It`s online.......(you should`ve KNOWN before commenting on this article!)

    UNITARIANS BELIEVE: (and have every right to so believe):
    "Unitarians base their religeous ideas on "rational thought" rather than external authority."

    What is rational thought? It is what YOU think is rational.
    What is external authority? It is GOD !

    Get it straight, you gullible people...THIS is what you are saying in this article.."welcome, all of you who beautifully spread the word...It is WE who should decide what is best in this world, and eliminate GOD from any importance or personal meaning in our lives and decisions!

    You "welcomers" and admirers of Unitarianism need to take a reality pill, followed by a sip or two of intelligence! You are gullible idiots!

  • Welcome
    June 27, 2009 9:24 p.m.

    Thanks for this interesting article.

    Unitarian Universalist is a lovely religion, which is inclusive of everyone.

    Welcome to Salt Lake City.