He had been shooting randomly from balcony at apartment complex
GEORGE WAS MY UNCLE AND I KNEW HIM MY WHOLE LIFE HIM AND MY AUNT LOVED EACH
OTHER AND WE ALL HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS MY UNCLE
WAS A VERY KIND HONEST LOVING CARING PERSON WHO LOST HIS WHOLE WORLD AND DID NOT
KNOW WHAT TO DO HE WAS NOT CRAZY HE HAD NOTHING OR NOBODY TO RUN TO AND SO HE
LOST TOUCH WITH REALITY AND DID A VERY BAD THING JUST ANOTHER LOST SOUL
EVERYONE NEEDS FORGIVNESS !!!!!I LOVE YOU AND REST IN PEACE
george was a friend of mine, I will miss him, he was a good man, who had some
bad demons . I will miss you george,
Let's see:Pending Divorce, Alcohol, and most likely taking taking a "safe"
medication that would never have a serious side-effect.Thanks Dr.
Tracy.Glad to see you're keeping your eye on the ball.
Dang.. Thats my uncle in that picture. He's fricken huge holding the M4 in his
hand. Located in the Second picture the big brown guy he's tongan.. He's the
Dr. Tracy's comments are darn near the only ones here that (a) make sense; and
(b) matter. This man was not schizophrenic or psychotic by any normal
definition. He was indeed a good man, a father of five, who had a Masters in
Social Work. He volunteered at the VA Medical Center. In his personal life, he
was a minimalist whose greatest joy seemed to be in doing good for others. He
would not have knowingly hurt another human being. Unfortunately, he was an
alcoholic, to an extent even his closest friends may not have recognized, and
had fairly recently been through rehab. He also suffered chronic pain from a
back disorder, and meds may have been involved. This disorder resulted in a
very unfair forced disability retirement from the VA Regional Office many years
ago. Oh, he was also a Navy veteran who served his country with honor during
the Vietnam War. He loved his wife, and the pending divorce, which no
reasonable person could fault, undoubtedly produced despondency. Judge not lest
ye be judged. He was as normal as you are, and this could happen to anyone. Oh
yes it could.
Chris: You speak of changing laws so that those like George Huntzinger can
get "treatment". But the problem is that George and most like him have generally
received "treatment" via drugs that are little different than what we call
illegal drugs. The term "suicide by cop" did not even exist before
the SSRI antidepressants were introduced to the market. We now have warnings
that those drugs produce suicidal thoughts at 2 to 3 times normal. The antidepressant label lists "suicidal ideation" (a fixation of compulsion
for suicide) as a side effect. Clearly George Huntzinger was focused
on and determined to die or in other words, suffering suicidal ideation. This is
evidence that he had already been "treated" by the drugs that caused his
behavior and, therefore, his death. Dr. Ann Blake Tracy, Executive
Director, International Coalition for Drug Awareness www.drugawareness.org & www.ssristories.com
Jeff an MP-5 is definately NOT a "machine gun". Bob is correct.
an MP-5 is a Sub Machine Gun.However the shell casings being
referred to in the article were .223 rounds likely from an M-16 or AR-15, both
of which are assault rifles, but are not referred to as "Machine Guns", even in
fully automatic mode. Local news channels had footage of the casings.
I worked with George about 12 years ago. He was a good person. My prayers are
with his family. He was not like this when I worked with him. He was cheerful
and good to his co-workers. I'm sorry things became so unstable in his life.
Hey Bob, even an MP-5 is a machine gun.......
I doubt you are a police officer. If you work in law enforcement, I suspect it's
behind a desk. I wonder how you would do protecting the public if you found your
self facing an armed, deranged man shooting at us.
Winder: maybe you need to hear from the neighbors, who were in the line of fire,
and who know what the police did. What a stupid statement you made.
You talk about agressive, SWAT is over used with abuse on the Citizens in
Utah.Utah is a sick State, Cops with a quality of agressive action.How many lies are being told to justify these actions by the Cops?
Cindy, I have a distant relative who is just as mentally ill and dangerous as
Huntzinger. I've tried everything to get this person committed to a mental
institution, but Utah law requires that I (or someone else) can PROVE that they
are a danger to themselves or others. Often, it takes a shooting like this to
show the general public how many dangerous folks there are who need help. We
need to change our state laws so that those who are seriously mentally ill, ie.
psychotic schizophrenics with violent intentions, can get some treatment.
Well, at least Huntzinger didn't take family or neighbors with him. Sounds like
he was doing just enough to get the officers to kill him.Suicide by
cop is sad, but this one was done properly. Good job by the SWAT team and other
Suicide by cop. Sad day when the cops have to end the life of an out of control
person. Well done, officers.
I'm glad this apparently unpredictable and dangerous person was prevented from
injuring or killing others. I thank those officers who responded so quickly. A note to the reporter: I object to the erroneous reference to "fully
automatic machine guns"--this is just some sensationalistic journalism. SWAT
teams commonly use sub-machines that fire pistol ammo, or rifles and carbines
with selective semi- and full-auto capabilities. Heavier caliber rifles are
limited to sharpshooting. There were no machine guns like the M-249 or M-240
involved. This isn't some militia shootout in downtown Mogadishu. Consult the AP
Style Guide and a talk a firearms subject matter expert next time please!
too bad when someone thinks that the only way out is to be killed by a cop. I
take off my hat to our Officers for putting themselves in harms way to protect
the public, but I also think that it is time for all branches of government out
there to aggressively promote more education to the general public about
resources out there that available to anyone who feels like he or she is at a
life and death emotional roller coaster.
I was patronizing a business just over the wall from the apartments when the
first shot was fired. We heard it, and soon the police vehicles arrived. It
was amazing the response, and how terrible the tragedy of this man's life. We
all need to look out for each other, and try to do things to reach out when we
see someone in distress, before it reaches this point.
Thank you to the officers who had to do their job to protect us.If
cowardly nut jobs want to die, let them take care of it by themselves and not
place a burden if guilt or doubt on a police officer. He also traumatized his
neighbors in the process.Unfortunately, publicity about this sort of
incident inspires copycats.
What a sad story.
I'm an American living in the Philippines. I wish law enforcement here did their
job as well as they do there back home. GOOD JOB!!!
tommorrow don't mess with swat!