Utah Jazz: Luke Nevill unleashes secret tool in workout — a jump shot

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  • Utah Man
    June 25, 2009 12:28 a.m.

    Good Luck Luke. I enjoyed your years at the U. Take heart. Okur has been in the league for years because he can shoot a 3ball. Not much else..you know how to play D and you've got post moves. Wherever you land, you'll be making more bank the all the BBall Bozos on this blog combined! Go UTES!!

  • John Wicks
    June 24, 2009 8:32 a.m.

    Luke would be a great starter on a Junior Jazz league team!!!!!

  • Go LUKE!!!
    June 23, 2009 7:01 p.m.

    Mark Eaton averaged 6 pts/g and 8 rebs/g. Luke's size is comparable, as well as, speed (tic). Mark had 10 lbs on him. No, he doesnt have the bulk . . . yet. But still his size is his strength and his presence will be hard to ignore.

  • Chadders
    June 23, 2009 2:45 p.m.

    Oh lest I forget big time mistakes by Portland in the draft, in 75 they picked Martin ahead of Bob McAdoo and Julius Erving. In 78 they picked Mychal Thompson inhead of Larry Bird. In 84 they picked Sam Bowie ahed of MJ, Barkley, and Stockton. In 2006 they took Greg Oden ahead of Kevin Durant, Al Horford, Rodney Stuckey, and others.
    Does that help put it in perspective for you Cowboy Joe? Yeah the Jazz have drafted some duds but Portland has some of the all times busts. Also Portland has had way more franchise changing chances they have bungled up. The last time the Jazz had that we picked Dwill and rebuilt faster than anyone thought possible.

  • All time
    June 23, 2009 2:23 p.m.

    Top 10 picks in the draft
    2007 #1 Greg Oden
    2006 #4 Tyrus Thomas
    2005 #6 Martell Webster
    1995 #8 Shawn Respert
    1984 #2 Sam Bowie
    1978 #1 Michael Thompson
    1978 #7 Ron Brewer
    1976 #5 Wally Walker
    1975 #6 Lionel Hollins
    1974 #1 Bill Walton
    1972 #1 LaRue Martin
    1971 #2 Sidney Wicks
    1970 #8 Geoff Petrie

    2005 #3 Deron Williams
    1983 #7 Thurl Bailey
    1982 #3 Dominique Wilkins
    1980 #2 Darrell Griffith
    1975 #7 Rich Kelley

  • Portland vs Utah since 04
    June 23, 2009 2:16 p.m.

    2008 #13 Brandon Rush #23 Kosta Koufus
    2007 #1 Greg Oden #25 Morris Almond
    2006 #4 Tyrus Thomas #14 Ronnie Brewer
    #30 Joel Freeland
    2005 #6 Martell Webster #3 Deron Williams
    # 27 Linas Kleiza
    2004 #13 Sebastian Telfair #14 Kris Humphries
    #23 Sergei Monia #16 Kirk Snyder
    #21 Pavel Podkolzin

  • Little research goes a long way
    June 23, 2009 12:48 a.m.

    The Jazz did draft Hill in the second round, but the Jazz did not "buy" Fesenko, and Fess did not go undrafted. Fess was, in fact, drafted early in round two (#38) by the 76ers and traded to the Jazz for Herbert Hill. In fact, some circles believe that the trade was a quid pro quo for the Jazz acquiring Alan Henderson from the 76ers on 2/22/07 in a salary cap manuever. The Jazz cut Henderson, absorbed his salary, and the 76ers resigned him for the minimum. The Jazz actually obtained the rights to swap second round picks, which never came to fruition, which is why the trade was likely consumated.

  • Utah and the draft
    June 22, 2009 11:45 p.m.

    I was surprised but since 2005 the Jazz have done a decent job of drafting.

    In 2005 they drafted Williams in the 1st and CJ Miles and Whaley in the 2nd.

    In 2006 they drafted Brewer in the 1st and Millsap and Dee Brown in the 2nd.

    In 2007 they drafted Almond in the 1st and Hill in the 2nd.

    In 2008 they got Koufos in the 1st and Tomic and Dragicevic in the 2nd.

    The second round picks do not hurt you unless you sign them and spend money on developing them. The Jazz got both Millsap and CJ in the second and it worked.

    The only bust is Almond. For reasons no one understands he has not worked out. He was a good choice when chosen. He may yet develop.

    The Jazz also bought Fez (not drafted).

    POR on the other hand has a long history of drafting and trading the players they draft almost immediately. They wheel and deal a lot with draft picks and also drafted players. They have dealt not directly drafted their way into a decent team.

  • dejavu
    June 22, 2009 11:23 p.m.

    been there! done that!

  • Griffin and Blair
    June 22, 2009 9:29 p.m.

    rank 2 and 1 an almost all of the metrics for quality of player. Blair is #1 on PER, WS/40, and least TO/Pos. He is #2 on EFF, EFF/40, Points/Pos, TS%, FG% and RBs.

    He may be gone by 20? In which case the Jazz will draft another PF who they were more likely to get who is also a good pick.

  • The Jazz do not move up
    June 22, 2009 9:01 p.m.

    because it costs them resources and once you get past Griffin (not available) all of the prospects have problems so they may as well wait at 20 and see who falls down to them like last year (Koufos). Blair is dropping and Hansbrough is rising. Lawson is dropping Holiday is rising.

    You can make a case that Blair and Lawson are actually better choices for the Jazz so there is no need to move.

    Besides they can get Gibson or Johnson if both Blair and Lawson are gone. There are a host of PGs available at 20. Once you get past Griffin there is a lot of parity. There are lots of trade offs as apposed to a player the Jazz just have to have.

    They have lots of good options in the 2nd round.
    No one is talking about it but if the Jazz offered cash for an extra 1st round pick many teams would take that quickly.

    Expect Houston to buy into the first round. They need a C (not any great ones in this draft).

    The Jazz could trade Fez for Landry (I would not)or some other PF.

  • fossil
    June 22, 2009 7:46 p.m.

    why does most of the other teams try and move up in the draft and do some trades to help their team get stronger and o conner just sets on his duff and does nothing, probly still on vacation and the draft is only a couple of days off. no wonder why we will always be a first round playoff loser. get a new gm.

  • Cowboy Joe
    June 22, 2009 6:41 p.m.

    The Jazz seem to draft better in the second round rather than the first. Second round players on the team, not all drafted by the Jazz, Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver, CJ Miles, Mehmet Okur, Jarron Collins, Fesenko. 3/5 of the starting line up was second rounders

  • Cowboy Joe
    June 22, 2009 6:36 p.m.

    Here are some Jazz recent first round drafts
    Jose Ortiz
    Quincy Lewis
    Luther Wright
    Jamie Watson
    Curtis Borchard
    Raul Lopez
    Kirk Snyder
    Chris Humphries
    Scott Padgett
    And many more
    Minimal Success
    Greg Ostertag
    Ronnie brewer
    In the last 20 years the Jazz have drafted two good players two okay players and a lot of losers. Sounds like they sure know how to draft them. I think they should pick the person they don't want then maybe we can get someone good. If they did that we would have Al Jefferson instead of Kris Humphries

  • Cowboy Joe
    June 22, 2009 6:29 p.m.


  • Re: John
    June 22, 2009 5:46 p.m.

    Thank you so much for your highly educated observation. Gee, whiz, golly gee. I don't know what I do with myself without big brained people like you pointing out meaningless spelling and grammatical errors, especially with caps for emphasis so that those of us with small brains can tell what you are so eloquently telling us. I don't think I could have made it through the day without your help.

  • As a BYU Fan
    June 22, 2009 5:06 p.m.

    I don't really see Mr. Nevill making it in the NBA. I'd love to see him succeed as a product of the MWC (even though I'd have to put up with hearing about it from UofU fans), but I think he and cummard are heading overseas this year. Even if Nevill gets drafted in the second round (which he's got a better chance of than Cummard), I still doubt he makes a roster, but hopefully I'm wrong.

  • De Colo
    June 22, 2009 4:21 p.m.

    would be a good choice with the second round pick.

  • John
    June 22, 2009 4:01 p.m.

    A milquetoast is a weak, ineffectual person.


  • Chadders
    June 22, 2009 3:53 p.m.

    Until the Blazer stop passing on guys like MJ and Kevin Durant for guys like Sam Bowie and Greg Oden, the words "they are very good at evaluating and developing young players" should not be used again. The Jazz are a far superior drafting team to Portland.

  • If the Jazz are not
    June 22, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    careful they will become the Wizards of the West with most of their money going to 3 maxed out injury prone players, paying the Lux tax and no hope of winning and no hope of trading out of the mess.

    At least NYs new coach give them a little hope for improvement.

  • The sad thing is
    June 22, 2009 11:54 a.m.

    that POR is going to kick Utah out of the gym on this draft. With 5 picks POR is bound to luck into at least 2 very good players. Further they are very good at evaluating and developing young players.

    The Jazz are rapidly dropping behind key rivals. OKC will be better next year also.

    The Jazz will be lucky to maintain an 8th seed. They will have salary problems and will not be able to fix the PF or outside shooting problems this year.

    They are simply being out moved by smarter organizations.

    Hansbrough is a safe pick but draft express just evaluated all of the PFs. Hans is weak in rebounding. The Jazz are weak in rebounding. That is one of the reasons they lose to LA.

    Boozer may be bad on defense but he can rebound. Rebounding is like secondary defense. It keeps the ball away from your opponent.

    With or without Boozer the Jazz are a long ways away from making serious progress in the right direction. The Sloan bias for Vets is biting them hard this year. Vets cost a lot of money to keep.

  • Old-Time Pro B-Ball Fan
    June 22, 2009 11:51 a.m.

    Sorry NYJazzFan, but "League of Thugs" is correct. Sure the "thugs" themselves come from the NCAA but there they are minor league thugs who really don't have the skill perfected until they get to the Pros.

    When in the Pros they have all the money and fame and think they are all that and many act like a bunch of children on and off the court.

    I prefer the days of Dr. J, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and the boys.

  • NYJazzFan
    June 22, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    Thats more like it Rick!!
    The Jazz need to get a defensive minded shot blocking big man.. even if it means letting Boozer or Milsap resign with another team!! No more undersized PF please!!

  • Rick
    June 22, 2009 10:45 a.m.

    I didn't know people from New York could be offended so easily. Sorry about that (notice my own milk toast tendencies).

    Ok, so league of thugs is too strong ... how about league of "as long as my rear end weighs more than you, I can shove you any direction I like any time I like"?

  • NYJazzFan
    June 22, 2009 10:26 a.m.

    U strictly college bball fans get under my skin.. "league of thugs".. there were plenty of thug players on my college bball team.. and there are plenty of thugs in the NCAA. Just to remind you, the great majority of NBA players still come from the ranks of the NCAA.. and the other players usually arent thugs.. unless you consider Nowitski a thug! LOL..

  • I am
    June 22, 2009 10:24 a.m.

    fat and old. Milk Toast would be in improvement.

  • loyal reader
    June 22, 2009 10:07 a.m.

    I consider myself a milk toast big man. Ask anybody.

  • Rick
    June 22, 2009 10:01 a.m.

    According to wikipedia:

    Milk toast's soft blandness served as inspiration for the name of the timid and ineffectual comic strip character Caspar Milquetoast, drawn by Harold Webster from 1924 to 1952. The term "milquetoast" has since adopted a new meaning: a timid, shrinking, apologetic person.

    Put the word "bigman" behind that definition, and there you go.

    Good shooting skills aside, some team would have to take a very large leap of faith that Luke has the personality and body to make it in the league of thugs.

  • What exactly is
    June 22, 2009 9:21 a.m.

    a milk toast bigman?

  • no
    June 22, 2009 9:13 a.m.

    I just don't see Luke making it. Too soft from a bad conference.

  • lol at europe comment
    June 22, 2009 8:52 a.m.

    the jazz need a chris bosh or maybe tayshawn prince type. not another milk toast big man.

  • He has a pretty good chance of..
    June 22, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    Playing in Europe with Trent Plaisted and Cummard.

  • Nevill can play
    June 22, 2009 8:30 a.m.

    I feel he has the talent to dominate the SLC rec league.

  • Nevill may make it late
    June 22, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    in the 2nd round but he is not a good pick for Utah. The Jazz have Fez. Which means the Jazz have more immediate needs.

    As far as a big slow C who can shoot, the Cleveland C comes to mind. Okur is not the only C in the NBA who shoots outside.

    Nevill will probably spend a couple years in Europe which is good because he will be playing instead of sitting and watching.

    As a BYU fan I hope you make it. Ditto for Cummard.

  • Jazz could use Nevill
    June 22, 2009 8:10 a.m.

    As bad as the interior defense is for the Jazz, couldn't they use a guy who has decent footwork and can alter/block shots? Sure he needs to bulk up, and he did that during his college career so it is likely to continue. The guy can score if needed, has a good touch from the line, can help defend the rim, and is 7'2".

    Take a chance on him in round #2. He has already shown more heart and work ethic than Fez.

  • Don't
    June 22, 2009 7:42 a.m.

    waste any more jazz time on this guy. He will end up overseas!

  • Observation-ist
    June 22, 2009 6:51 a.m.

    Good luck Luke. It's always encouraging when the comments regarding improvement are about things that can easily be addressed. Weight and strength are much more easy to address than coordination. As a BYU fan, I didn't see much of Luke in college. I wish him the best of luck.

  • Anonymous
    June 22, 2009 2:15 a.m.

    Good Luck Luke!