Good Luck Luke. I enjoyed your years at the U. Take heart. Okur has been in the
league for years because he can shoot a 3ball. Not much else..you know how to
play D and you've got post moves. Wherever you land, you'll be making more bank
the all the BBall Bozos on this blog combined! Go UTES!!
Luke would be a great starter on a Junior Jazz league team!!!!!
Mark Eaton averaged 6 pts/g and 8 rebs/g. Luke's size is comparable, as well as,
speed (tic). Mark had 10 lbs on him. No, he doesnt have the bulk . . . yet. But
still his size is his strength and his presence will be hard to ignore.
Oh lest I forget big time mistakes by Portland in the draft, in 75 they picked
Martin ahead of Bob McAdoo and Julius Erving. In 78 they picked Mychal Thompson
inhead of Larry Bird. In 84 they picked Sam Bowie ahed of MJ, Barkley, and
Stockton. In 2006 they took Greg Oden ahead of Kevin Durant, Al Horford, Rodney
Stuckey, and others. Does that help put it in perspective for you Cowboy
Joe? Yeah the Jazz have drafted some duds but Portland has some of the all times
busts. Also Portland has had way more franchise changing chances they have
bungled up. The last time the Jazz had that we picked Dwill and rebuilt faster
than anyone thought possible.
Top 10 picks in the draftPortland2007 #1 Greg Oden2006 #4
Tyrus Thomas2005 #6 Martell Webster1995 #8 Shawn Respert1984
#2 Sam Bowie1978 #1 Michael Thompson1978 #7 Ron Brewer1976 #5
Wally Walker1975 #6 Lionel Hollins1974 #1 Bill Walton1972 #1
LaRue Martin1971 #2 Sidney Wicks1970 #8 Geoff PetrieUtah2005 #3 Deron Williams1983 #7 Thurl Bailey1982 #3
Dominique Wilkins1980 #2 Darrell Griffith1975 #7 Rich Kelley
2008 #13 Brandon Rush #23 Kosta Koufus2007 #1 Greg Oden #25
Morris Almond2006 #4 Tyrus Thomas #14 Ronnie Brewer #30
Joel Freeland2005 #6 Martell Webster #3 Deron Williams # 27
Linas Kleiza2004 #13 Sebastian Telfair #14 Kris Humphries #23
Sergei Monia #16 Kirk Snyder #21 Pavel
The Jazz did draft Hill in the second round, but the Jazz did not "buy" Fesenko,
and Fess did not go undrafted. Fess was, in fact, drafted early in round two
(#38) by the 76ers and traded to the Jazz for Herbert Hill. In fact, some
circles believe that the trade was a quid pro quo for the Jazz acquiring Alan
Henderson from the 76ers on 2/22/07 in a salary cap manuever. The Jazz cut
Henderson, absorbed his salary, and the 76ers resigned him for the minimum. The
Jazz actually obtained the rights to swap second round picks, which never came
to fruition, which is why the trade was likely consumated.
I was surprised but since 2005 the Jazz have done a decent job of drafting. In 2005 they drafted Williams in the 1st and CJ Miles and Whaley in the
2nd.In 2006 they drafted Brewer in the 1st and Millsap and Dee Brown
in the 2nd.In 2007 they drafted Almond in the 1st and Hill in the
2nd. In 2008 they got Koufos in the 1st and Tomic and Dragicevic in
the 2nd. The second round picks do not hurt you unless you sign them
and spend money on developing them. The Jazz got both Millsap and CJ in the
second and it worked. The only bust is Almond. For reasons no one
understands he has not worked out. He was a good choice when chosen. He may yet
develop. The Jazz also bought Fez (not drafted). POR on
the other hand has a long history of drafting and trading the players they draft
almost immediately. They wheel and deal a lot with draft picks and also drafted
players. They have dealt not directly drafted their way into a decent team.
been there! done that!
rank 2 and 1 an almost all of the metrics for quality of player. Blair is #1 on
PER, WS/40, and least TO/Pos. He is #2 on EFF, EFF/40, Points/Pos, TS%, FG% and
RBs. He may be gone by 20? In which case the Jazz will draft another
PF who they were more likely to get who is also a good pick.
because it costs them resources and once you get past Griffin (not available)
all of the prospects have problems so they may as well wait at 20 and see who
falls down to them like last year (Koufos). Blair is dropping and Hansbrough is
rising. Lawson is dropping Holiday is rising. You can make a case
that Blair and Lawson are actually better choices for the Jazz so there is no
need to move. Besides they can get Gibson or Johnson if both Blair
and Lawson are gone. There are a host of PGs available at 20. Once you get past
Griffin there is a lot of parity. There are lots of trade offs as apposed to a
player the Jazz just have to have.They have lots of good options in
the 2nd round. No one is talking about it but if the Jazz offered cash for
an extra 1st round pick many teams would take that quickly.Expect
Houston to buy into the first round. They need a C (not any great ones in this
draft).The Jazz could trade Fez for Landry (I would not)or some
why does most of the other teams try and move up in the draft and do some trades
to help their team get stronger and o conner just sets on his duff and does
nothing, probly still on vacation and the draft is only a couple of days off. no
wonder why we will always be a first round playoff loser. get a new gm.
The Jazz seem to draft better in the second round rather than the first. Second
round players on the team, not all drafted by the Jazz, Carlos Boozer, Paul
Millsap, Kyle Korver, CJ Miles, Mehmet Okur, Jarron Collins, Fesenko. 3/5 of the
starting line up was second rounders
Here are some Jazz recent first round draftsBustsJose OrtizQuincy LewisLuther Wright Jamie WatsonCurtis BorchardRaul LopezKirk SnyderChris HumphriesScott PadgettAnd
many moreMinimal SuccessGreg OstertagRonnie brewerSuccessDWILL AK47In the last 20 years the Jazz have drafted
two good players two okay players and a lot of losers. Sounds like they sure
know how to draft them. I think they should pick the person they don't want then
maybe we can get someone good. If they did that we would have Al Jefferson
instead of Kris Humphries
Draft James Johnson in the first a pg in the second, trade Boozer, fire SLOWN.
Problems solved. The Jazz are not BETTER THAN THE BLAZERS DRAFTING TALENT> EVEN
HOUSTON DRAFTED OLAJWON OVER JORDAN. BETTER THAN BOWIE BUT NOT BETTER THEN MJ.
BLAZERS TRADED FOR ROY AND ALDRIDGE INSTEAD OF FOYE AND THOMAS.
Thank you so much for your highly educated observation. Gee, whiz, golly gee. I
don't know what I do with myself without big brained people like you pointing
out meaningless spelling and grammatical errors, especially with caps for
emphasis so that those of us with small brains can tell what you are so
eloquently telling us. I don't think I could have made it through the day
without your help.
I don't really see Mr. Nevill making it in the NBA. I'd love to see him succeed
as a product of the MWC (even though I'd have to put up with hearing about it
from UofU fans), but I think he and cummard are heading overseas this year.
Even if Nevill gets drafted in the second round (which he's got a better chance
of than Cummard), I still doubt he makes a roster, but hopefully I'm wrong.
would be a good choice with the second round pick.
A milquetoast is a weak, ineffectual person.Not MILK TOAST
Until the Blazer stop passing on guys like MJ and Kevin Durant for guys like Sam
Bowie and Greg Oden, the words "they are very good at evaluating and developing
young players" should not be used again. The Jazz are a far superior drafting
team to Portland.
careful they will become the Wizards of the West with most of their money going
to 3 maxed out injury prone players, paying the Lux tax and no hope of winning
and no hope of trading out of the mess. At least NYs new coach give
them a little hope for improvement.
that POR is going to kick Utah out of the gym on this draft. With 5 picks POR is
bound to luck into at least 2 very good players. Further they are very good at
evaluating and developing young players.The Jazz are rapidly
dropping behind key rivals. OKC will be better next year also. The
Jazz will be lucky to maintain an 8th seed. They will have salary problems and
will not be able to fix the PF or outside shooting problems this year.They are simply being out moved by smarter organizations. Hansbrough is a safe pick but draft express just evaluated all of the PFs.
Hans is weak in rebounding. The Jazz are weak in rebounding. That is one of the
reasons they lose to LA. Boozer may be bad on defense but he can
rebound. Rebounding is like secondary defense. It keeps the ball away from your
opponent. With or without Boozer the Jazz are a long ways away from
making serious progress in the right direction. The Sloan bias for Vets is
biting them hard this year. Vets cost a lot of money to keep.
Sorry NYJazzFan, but "League of Thugs" is correct. Sure the "thugs" themselves
come from the NCAA but there they are minor league thugs who really don't have
the skill perfected until they get to the Pros. When in the Pros
they have all the money and fame and think they are all that and many act like a
bunch of children on and off the court.I prefer the days of Dr. J,
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and the boys.
Thats more like it Rick!! The Jazz need to get a defensive minded shot
blocking big man.. even if it means letting Boozer or Milsap resign with another
team!! No more undersized PF please!!
I didn't know people from New York could be offended so easily. Sorry about that
(notice my own milk toast tendencies).Ok, so league of thugs is too
strong ... how about league of "as long as my rear end weighs more than you, I
can shove you any direction I like any time I like"?
U strictly college bball fans get under my skin.. "league of thugs".. there were
plenty of thug players on my college bball team.. and there are plenty of thugs
in the NCAA. Just to remind you, the great majority of NBA players still come
from the ranks of the NCAA.. and the other players usually arent thugs.. unless
you consider Nowitski a thug! LOL..
fat and old. Milk Toast would be in improvement.
I consider myself a milk toast big man. Ask anybody.
According to wikipedia: Milk toast's soft blandness served as
inspiration for the name of the timid and ineffectual comic strip character
Caspar Milquetoast, drawn by Harold Webster from 1924 to 1952. The term
"milquetoast" has since adopted a new meaning: a timid, shrinking, apologetic
person.Put the word "bigman" behind that definition, and there you
go.Good shooting skills aside, some team would have to take a very
large leap of faith that Luke has the personality and body to make it in the
league of thugs.
a milk toast bigman?
I just don't see Luke making it. Too soft from a bad conference.
the jazz need a chris bosh or maybe tayshawn prince type. not another milk
toast big man.
Playing in Europe with Trent Plaisted and Cummard.
I feel he has the talent to dominate the SLC rec league.
in the 2nd round but he is not a good pick for Utah. The Jazz have Fez. Which
means the Jazz have more immediate needs.As far as a big slow C who
can shoot, the Cleveland C comes to mind. Okur is not the only C in the NBA who
shoots outside.Nevill will probably spend a couple years in Europe
which is good because he will be playing instead of sitting and watching.As a BYU fan I hope you make it. Ditto for Cummard.
As bad as the interior defense is for the Jazz, couldn't they use a guy who has
decent footwork and can alter/block shots? Sure he needs to bulk up, and he did
that during his college career so it is likely to continue. The guy can score
if needed, has a good touch from the line, can help defend the rim, and is
7'2".Take a chance on him in round #2. He has already shown more
heart and work ethic than Fez.
waste any more jazz time on this guy. He will end up overseas!
Good luck Luke. It's always encouraging when the comments regarding improvement
are about things that can easily be addressed. Weight and strength are much
more easy to address than coordination. As a BYU fan, I didn't see much of Luke
in college. I wish him the best of luck.
Good Luck Luke!