Jackson is not really from Deer Lodge - his father just happened to be a
preacher there for a few years while Jackson was playing ball elsewhere.
Phil won 2 NBA championships rings as a player with the Knicks in the early
70sPhil has a total of 12 NBA titles and 1 CBA titleI am
sure Phil could win also win NCAA basketball titles if he coached at North
Noted the missed opportunities. As noted, even with Magic, Drexler, Jordan or
Kobe, Sloan cannot win a championship. Jazz fans are blind with hate, I am glad
I walked away from the Jazz. Not worthy arguing with fools.
Why did Jorday say, 'No Jackson as coach, no me as player'? Kobe and Shaq love
playing for him. That has to mean something. The proof is in the pudding.
Phil Jackson has won more championships than any other coach in the history of
the NBA. Red won 9 with Russell, Cousey, Havi, and then Russell won
more without Red. It seems to me that it is too difficult for Jazz fans to give
credit where credit is due.
And why didn't the Jazz have right picks at the right time?The fact
is they did, IN '79 they had chance at Magic Johnson and traded
the pick awayIN '80 they took griffith instead of mchale,IN '82 they
traded away d. wilkins,IN '83 the took thurl bailey instead of clyde
drexlerand you can find many more of these mistakes,Yeah they had there chances,But biggest problem, recently, is
sloan,yes,he coached the team to many wins, even over-achievedcausing thme get lousy draft postion after lousy draft position,keeping just above medicocre,never giveng them a chance to
get that player they needed to win a championship.Jazz history can
be summed up as missed chances and deprivation of chances.
Phil Jackson in not the best coach, he inherited teams that were ripe for a
championship, Bulls/Lakers, Auerbach made his team, Daly too. As for the Lakers,
they were aided by the league to get the lion share of good players, what
happened to the salary cap that was aimed to balance out the teams. Jerry West
gifted them with Gasol. The championship should have an asterisk.
I ain't never liked the Celtics. The great rivalary with Russell and Wilt was
fashioned by Red Aerbach. He was a great coach,no matter how much I hated
Boston. Red got those Titles with one team,not with two or three teams. Why
didn't Phil or Pat stay with the Bulls and lakers? Talent drain is the reason
why.Shag went to Miami and Pat went down stairs. Kicked out the coach,won a
title. Shag left so did Pat. It's a joke. Will Phil stay in LA if Kobe
leaves----NO. If a young great Big man came to Miami. Would Pat come back
downstairs---YES. If he ain't retired yet. It's a great big joke. Greatest
coaches these days.
sorry dont buy the ego thing..if phil really wants to cement his legacy go coach
the memphis grizzlies to a title or the bobcats..to me larry brown had to be the
best coach inthe league ..seems like evrywhere he went he turn those teams into
championship contenders..heck he even coach the clippers into the playoffs one
year and this was during the clippers heydays of futility..meanwhile zemmaster
coach the greatest player ever ;probably the best big men in his era and
probabilty the best high school prospect ever in kobe..so there`s is no argument
here..he is probably waiitng in line to coach lebron also!!!
Kobe is overrated. Without Jackson all he did was lose and was miserable.
Jackson is an expert in diaper changing and giving players what they want to
motivate them to win. He is one of the more overrated coaches but he helped Kobe
win without Shaq which I thought would never happen. Without Jackson kobe would
still be crying to be traded on another team.
Really come on now so what when Phil Jackson was in Chicago it was MJ team. He
still had to get there respect and buy in to do the triangle offense. Lets
remember Chicago never really had a true big man in the middle. As for the
Lakers he still needed them to buy in the system.
So a 16 year old could command the respect of Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq,
Kobe, etc., get them all to play cohesively, and lead them to championships?
This guy wins the prize for stupidity. Hands down.
Idiotic article from someone that plainly doesn't understand coaching at a
championship level. The majority of NBA players are incredibly talented but most
aren't coached or guided well. Most coaches would have pulled Derek Fisher in
the Finals. Phil leaves him in because he sees what most don't. Well deserved
championship for L.A. Quit your crying!
LOSERS HATE WINNERS!!
You are dead wrong about Phil Jackson not being a great coach. How do I know?
How many championships did Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippin have after playing
together for several seasons without Phil Jackson? None. How many did they have
after Jackson came on board? Six. How many championships did Shaq and Kobe have
after playing together and on separate teams for many seasons without Jackson?
None. After Jackson? Three together with Jackson, one more for Kobe with
Jackson. No one is better at motivating NBA players than Jackson.
Phil did a nice job of coaching this year. Close vs. Houston, Denver and orlando
series was closer than it ended up. However, MJ is MJ and PIP is PIP when they
were in their prime and Cartwright and longley were the starting centers in the
3 peats tells you about the talent of those 2.
No Tex Winters, no titles for Jackson.The last person on earth who
realized the Lakers needed to post up Gasol was Jackson. They could've had four
series of 4-0 with a better coach.
Yup just like Joe Paterno, Bear Bryant, Booby Bowden and oh ya Lavell Edwards as
they were at the end of their coaching careers. They didn't have to do much thye
were all legends by then, just like Phil.
"WHAT IS PREVENTING UTAH FROM ACQUIRING PLAYERS OF KOBE,SHAQ,DUNCAN OR JORDAN
CALIBER ?"Are you kidding, or 10 years old? The Jazz haven't had
the right picks at the right time.Is your next question "why is the
You nailed it, Rock. Jackson is a good ego manager. He has to be to handle
egos the size of Jordan's, Shaq's and of course Kobe's monster ego, but he's not
much of a coach.Everyone praises the "Triangle Offense", but I have
yet to find anyone who can explain why its so great; or what it is, for that
matter. Not to mention the fact that Jackson didn't create the Triangle. Tex
Winter created it and no one gave a darn about it until Phil plugged Michael
Jordan into it.Phil belongs in LA - all hype, all show, very little
The 2004 team was in no way one of the geatest teams of all time. Payton, Malone
and even Shaq were on their last legs. Payton couldn't gaurd anyone anymore and
Malone could barely jump. good try but that team would have lost to several NBA
teams in the past few years. Let aone the greatest of all time.
Having Jordan and Kobe was undeniably the reason they won? Now take away any of
those two players and tell me how good the Bulls or the Lakers would be? The
story makes alot of sense and Jackson does not deserve the accolades.
Doesnt get enough credit
Have you seen Jackson during a game? Have you heard him? He literally just gets
out of the way. He'll say something like "guys, we have to hit the boards" or
"play harder". I'm not sure he could diagram a pick and roll on a chalkboard.
Phil should have two more titles if he was the greatest coach ever. In 2004 he
had a star studded team with Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone and Gary Payton, believed
to be one of the greatest teams in NBA history. Yet, he was outcoached by Larry
Brown and got beat by the Pistons.They also should have won last
year, but his team could not play defense to stop the Celtics. Ariza should
have played many more minutes in that series.He is the one the the
best coaches as much as big shot Bob is one of the greatest players in NBA
It takes more than just a team of players, it takes a front office who can
recruit, trade or fanagle thier way into bringing in guys that give strength to
thier areas of weekness. When you have a GM that has done the amazing job that
thiers has of bringing in the talent they have to surround a great player like
Kobe (I don't care for him as a person from what I know of him but the guy works
his butt off and did things in the playoffs that left me with my jaw on the
ground), then you have the best team in the NBA. GM, Coach, Players...it takes a
team that is bigger than what plays on the court! I am an "anyone but the
lakers" sort of guy (maybe would feel diff if Kobe wasn't on thier team) but
they made it happen and my hat is off to them for gutting it out and smokin' the
Well said Gils, my sentiments exactly. I can't stand Phil, but you can't argue
with the results. My guess is had Phil been the Jazz Coach during the
Stockton/Malone years, we would have at least one or two titles. We had the
better team in 97 and 98, although not the best player. During those finals, if
the coaches were switched, the Jazz would have won at least once if not both
times. And I'm not sure Sloan ever will win one even if he had the best talent.
What a bunch of negative and jaleous writers and fans. Why cant you get Jerry
Sloan win trophies for you guys? Always the same lame excuses behind jaleousy.
THIAS IS THE MAIN REASON I STOPPED ANY AFFILIATION WITH THE JAZZ.INCREDIBLE.WHAT IS PREVENTING UTAH FROM ACQUIRING PLAYERS OF
KOBE,SHAQ,DUNCAN OR JORDAN CALIBER ?
I agree with the story. Titles do not equal greatness. Otherwise you have to
say that Sam Jones, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Tom Sanders, John Havlicek, Jim
Loscutoff, Frank Ramsey, and Robert Horry were all better than Michael Jordan
because they won more titles than him (Bill Russell won the most with 11 but he
actually may be as good as if not better than Jordan in his day).
But I wouldn't want to if I had to have Kobe on my team. I'd rather lose than
The reality of it is you couldn't win a title with Jordan, Kobe or Shaq just as
allot of better coaches than you couldn't until Phil came along. Like it or not
Phil's got the rings and the stats to prove it. If we followed your arguemnet
who ever coached LeBron should have one this year, after all he was the MVP. If
Phil went to the Cav's LeBron would get a ring.
I think the thing that sets him apart from any other coach, and gives him a
little control over the uncontrollable is his ego. Winning a bunch of titles
lets him claim to be the best, biggest, nastiest, baddest son of a gun ever to
wear a tie to a game. The team with giant egos can only be coached, I mean,
controlled by someone whose ego is just as big and thus garners some respect
from the junior egos.
The problem with your argument is that the teams did not win the years before
Phil Jackson arrived. The Chicago Bulls did not win before Phil. The Lakers,
even with a stacked team of Shaq, Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, and a young Kobe,
did not win before Phil. And we know how Kobe's Lakers fared without Phil - they
didn't even make the playoffs. Also, the first time Jordan retired,
Jordan left a 57 win team. Without Jordan, Phil coached the Scottie Pippen-led
Bulls to 55 wins. Red Auerbach had much more talent on his teams, and he did not
have to deal with free agency. Red may have been a better GM, but Phil is the