Utah Utes football: Linebacker charged with assault

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  • typical des news
    June 8, 2009 6:21 p.m.

    Here's my problem with this story. I have a hard time believing it happened like it is reported because of the simple physics of it. So they're saying with the cops standing right there, he knocks one guy out, then knocks over another and repeatedly kicks him, and somehow the police don't try to stop this? And then he still has time to run, then thinks better of it and lets them arrest him? Something about this story stinks, and considering the source, might it be media bias?
    If the courts determine he's guilty, then yes, suspend him and revoke his scholarship for a year. But I just don't think it happened the way they say it did.

  • Jess
    June 7, 2009 9:50 p.m.

    Research has shown that participation in student activities (junior high thru college) has a beneficial effect on the person's long term success when compared to students who do not participate. This includes all student activities (athletics, debate, drama, music, school paper, student government, clubs, etc.). Research also shows that of the different kinds of student activities, participation in sports is the poorest predictor of long-term success. In fact, studies done by a University of Idaho researcher showed that participants in school sports (from junior high through college) actually has a detrimental effect on the participant's social skills. And the more involved the student is, the greater the damage.

    We should not be surprised when athletes, especially football players get involved in these fights, etc. They have been trained to believe that they are something special and should receive special treatment and have no responsibility for their antisocial behavior.

    A few years ago a college coach was criticized for some of the things his players had been caught doing and his response was that if they wanted a winning team, this was the price the college and supporters would have to pay.

  • BYU Fans Don't Forget...
    June 6, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    Three of your swimmers this year stole a car and tried to use the owners credit card. BYU has the same problems every other school has. Nothing special about BYU.

  • Anonymous
    June 6, 2009 11:34 a.m.

    We've got Yewt fans going back 30 years - 30 YEARS - and bring up Jim McMahon??? And yet if 1984 is ever mentioned BYU gets slammed by our little brother up North???

    Typical "pick & choose" mentality by Yewt fans.

    I suggest you get your own house in order and stop worrying about what BYU does. It makes you look foolish.

  • Geat Real
    June 6, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    Knock of the childish comments. You do this in anonymity. Most of you wouldn't have the courage to say this the persons face.

    When police see you knock someone unconscious and then kick him, that is a cowardly act, in an of itself. Despite what the courts do I would not want that young man representing my school. He can go somewhere else and get his act straight and then apply for readmission, under a magnifying glass.

    Too many athletes think they are prima donnas. Just think R. J. Soward of Fontana, CA via USC. Got away with it in high school and thought he could continue in college and in professional football. Gone after one year. Coaches are either character builders or enablers.

    I like Bronco's philosophy. 99% of all college players never play a down in professional football, so college should be preparing yourself for life and that is not football. After football you still need to be a productive member of society.

    When BYU played UCLA I was there, with their fans behind us. They were not vulgar, as I have experienced from far too many Utes.

    That Said BYU is not perfect.

  • b-breezy
    June 6, 2009 10:14 a.m.

    to the comment about the most drunks in the MWC at the U, that is a joke, have you ever been to UNLV or SDSU, get over yourself. and i am glad that when the ute player was out in a bar, the whole byu team was at home together reading their scriptures and watching re-runs of general conference. they are all such good role models.

  • RE To: Utah Man
    June 6, 2009 9:46 a.m.

    Or we could say two of the last seven "LOL"

  • TheHailstorm
    June 6, 2009 9:39 a.m.

    Too bad it wasn't Collie or any of the zoobees commenting here.
    Coach Kyle just gained another scholarship and does not take this kind of action to be taken lightly. There also is no place on the Utah roster for that kind of behavior. Until he incident is investigated fully , Coach of the Year Kyle will level an appropriate punishment. the incident reminds the Crowton years from the TDS.

  • To: Utah Man
    June 6, 2009 6:43 a.m.

    And BYU has won two out of the last three games against Utah. LOL

  • Felony?
    June 5, 2009 9:19 p.m.

    What would BYU's felony problems be? Jaywalking isn't a felony, even in Provo.

  • Re: UTE
    June 5, 2009 8:56 p.m.

    Gee if you actually were 99.9% white that would actually fix your felony problems. What WERE you thinking?

  • Re: Ute
    June 5, 2009 7:07 p.m.

    Actually, BYU's football team isn't 99.9% white. It is about 62% white counting all the polynesians. About the same as the utes, actually! Typical Ute grad. can't do math!

  • UTE
    June 5, 2009 6:55 p.m.

    Its because our team isn't 99.9% white. Right byU?

  • Wake up
    June 5, 2009 2:10 p.m.

    As one who knows of the antics of Jim McMahon Glass houses rings a bell. BYU and his teamates covered upmore of his tracks "mishaps" than anyone wants admit to. Don't believe me ask those who were there. So get of your high horse realize that it is what it is and the University and coaching staff will handle it appropriately. P.S. Several General Authorities are Utah Alum.

  • Re: Paul Kruger
    June 5, 2009 1:04 p.m.

    OK, this comment was made yesterday but I missed it, so I apologize for coming late to this thread.

    To compare the attack on Paul Kruger to this incident with Mo Neal is not just inaccurate, it is completely INSANE!!! Kruger and his brother and a couple others got jumped by some gang-bangers after leaving a Christmas party at a friend's house. His involvement was totally in self defense, as evidenced by the absence of police charges against him. And if you Cougie fans have a reaction to Kruger attending parties, you obviously don't know him very well, even though he grew up in your back yard.

    What a horrible knee-jerk reaction from a myopic Cougar fan. Please don't forget that about half the U student body belong to the same church as you guys, and that over HALF of Utah's players, including Kruger, are not just LDS but are returned missionaries. Get a freakin' clue!!!

  • RE:Big Daddy
    June 5, 2009 1:02 p.m.

    I recall that BYU lost......

  • Big Daddy
    June 5, 2009 12:49 p.m.

    Hey does anyone recall the final score of last years BYU-UTAH game?

  • Seymour Duck
    June 5, 2009 12:20 p.m.

    Not sure why my 1st comment didn't post.....I just wanna say thanks to the young Ute who is helping to ensure another DUCKS victory against an over-rated UTAH team. Don't get me wrong, the UTES are my SECOND fave team behind OREGON....best of luck this year, other than when you come to Autzen....but if I was you I'd save your plane fare.......

  • Seymour Duck
    June 5, 2009 12:10 p.m.

    I appreciate the commitment your players have to making sure that we dominate you guys in Autzen this year.....too bad, cuz behind Oregon, Utah is my #2 fave team.....GO DUCKS!!!!

  • Utah Mann
    June 5, 2009 11:55 a.m.

    Wow.... to the guy that says that Utah has the most druken fans in the MWC. Have you attended a game outside of Utah???????????? Get out of the bubble and your sheltered life there in UTAH county!!!!!!!
    If you have ever been to a football game outside of Provo you will know that college football tradition is to tailgate before the game!!!!!!!! Utah fans participate in this tradition by partaking of a few alcoholic beverages before the game. Who are you to judge Utah fans. One more thing......college kids party, and have fun. Funny how all the bYu fans think that they are national championship bound because the recruited the top QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seems like a typical bYu fan/player, arrogant, self righteous, and to top it off the kid has a freaking publicist. We will see, we will see. Sounds like bulletin board material to me. Last thing....man the traitor that transferred from USU to bYu (Riley) looks like you be lucky to be playing on the practice squad buddy!!! HAHAHAHHAAH.

    One last thing.......GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh yah...we have been to and won two BCS bowl games in the last 4 years.

  • GridironSam
    June 5, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    We live in a sports society where newspaper reporters read the daily police blotters to pick up info just like this. Ask anyone in the bar business, fights like this happen all of the time, but it only makes news when it involves an athlete or celebrity. That doesn't make what he did excuseable. No matter what precipitated it, based on the police descriptions it sounds like Mo Neal lost control with rage. This is the kind of situation the Coach warns his players against in every team and personal meeting with them--don't make bad decisions and keep yourself out of compromising situations. Unfortunately it looks like this player made a bad personal decision and ignored those admonitions. And now he will face the consequences, both legally and with his standing on the team and the University

  • weak-kneed Whit
    June 5, 2009 7:29 a.m.

    I'm not sure why Whit is going to leave it up to the legal process. The U should be conducting its own investigation into the incident. And, to all the U commentators/defenders who bring up the BYU honor code, I would point out that the honor code likely says nothing about assaulting other people. That's something that wouldn't be included in any honor code.

  • Mike B
    June 5, 2009 2:12 a.m.

    What is truly sad is that this kid probably thinks he did nothing wrong up to the moment the police ordered him to stop and the like a coward he ran. I'm LDS, did not go to BYU although my father-in-law did and one of my brothers did. I am a Ute and will forever be a Ute, however we Utes do not need nor do we want thugs and cowards representing our team and University. Let the law take it's course and then let the young man go. We do not need him or players like him. I had my run ins with hulking football players trying to intimidate me and others in the past. I have never backed down and never will but fortunately I was able to avoid physical confrontation. Good for both myself and the player. Everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions, right or wrong. My mother's favorite word was and still is consequences. We all have to face the consequences of our actions, both good and bad. In this instance perhaps this young man will learn from the consequences of his actions. I hope so.

  • re: Henry Dummond
    June 4, 2009 8:20 p.m.

    "You may win a National Championship ... a real one this time."

    One important aspect concerning BCS NC's has apparently escaped your modest understanding. They, too, are mythical, i.e., "not real". Do you want me to explain it to you? Ok, I'll type this very slowly so you can follow along. Feel free to move your lips as needed while you read. You see, the NCAA doesn't actually hold a playoff to determine a true champion like they do for other sports. No, seriously. Come on now don't start crying, hang in there. The two teams that get to play for the so-called NC are chosen by voting in some polls. Remember how Whittingham was crying to the press last season that his team should be #1? Yep, I'll bet you're starting to get it now.

  • Character
    June 4, 2009 7:00 p.m.

    As far as Bronco's comments about football not being the #1 priority last year, I watched a terrific movie this weekend called Forever Strong. One of the 2 coaches in question in these comments reminds me of the coach at Highland high school, and the other is a bit closer to the Flagstaff coach that would rather turn a blind eye and put winning at greater importance than anything else.

    Remember ute fans- with all the top-quality athletes and bigger, stronger, and faster guys that you have compared to BYU you should be embarrassed that they beat u as often as they do.

  • To: byu Trolls
    June 4, 2009 6:54 p.m.

    Everybody in the world drinks (except in provo), get over it and try to act cultured!

  • To Coach
    June 4, 2009 6:48 p.m.

    "If any disciplinary actions will be taken"? Whoa there, coach. Step away from the linebacker. You are sending the WRONG message to the players there.

    Step up and be the man. Let the player feel the burden of injuring two people OFF the field and the impact it has on the Ute club.

    So disappointing.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 6:41 p.m.

    Word out of Provo.....HEAPS!
    Word out of Yewtville.....NEAL!

    Go Yewts!!

  • love it
    June 4, 2009 6:21 p.m.

    so classy and brave to kick a man senseless while he is laying on the ground. Then just run away like a little baby. I can see a life of crime and prison in his future. All this in front of the police. Not the brightest lamp in the room.

  • Way to Take a Stand Kyle
    June 4, 2009 5:40 p.m.

    What if any discipline. Way to step up Kyle. Heaven forbid you suspend a player or take a stand. The player will play as scheduled with no school recourse. Hopefully the legal process will take care of it.

  • Re:Ummm...
    June 4, 2009 5:25 p.m.

    We're all waiting for your intimate knowledge on the Ratliff situation...

  • Re: Cougar Dude/Stupid Comments
    June 4, 2009 5:00 p.m.

    About time we have some perspective. Thank you both for being reasonable.

  • Ummm...
    June 4, 2009 5:00 p.m.

    Not so sure that citing BYU in '03 is a winning argument - those players were run out of town faster than Max Hall gave up turnovers. BYU *did* discpline them, so pointing fingers at that program doesn't put Utah on any higher moral ground, and I don't think KW has been as responsive as he should such incidents. See Ratliff.

  • Here we go
    June 4, 2009 4:20 p.m.

    So this is when Utah fans start to defend and justify a terribly stupid decision by a Utah knuckle head by pointing to terribly stupid decisions made in the past by BYU knuckle heads. Please spare us at least this one defense strategy! Please! Please don't try to right this wrong by claiming "harvey was worse!" Is that the kind of moral relativism you really use to determine what is right or wrong?

    "Let the legal process run it's course" is also a plain silly argument! Have a conversation with the kid. If he did what it appears he did, he should be gone...whether he's wearing blue or red...GONE!

  • TM
    June 4, 2009 4:15 p.m.

    The guy sounds lame. Many of the utes are not like this.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 3:45 p.m.

    A linebacker arrested for assault?

    Excuse me, but that is what linebackers DO! This is just an occupational hazard.

  • Boise State Rules Both!
    June 4, 2009 3:34 p.m.

    yeah Marcus Wilson had a history well before Uteville..in high school he got suspended for a serious injury in assaulting a fellow high school student yet everyone downplayed and looked the other way. He even went to a religious school called Juan Diego..i quess character can not be bought but be built so it don't come easy , you know it don't come easy~!

  • Seriously?
    June 4, 2009 3:14 p.m.

    hahaha... All i hear is remember when the byu guy did this or the byu guy did that.

    You guys are sad!

  • Stupid Comments
    June 4, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    As a die hard BYU fan I think that any other BYU fan that takes pleasure in this incident needs to get a little class. It's unfortunate when any player (whether for BYU or Utah) makes such a stupid decision that may cost them their future in the sport and taints the name of their team. Unfortunately, stupid mistakes are the reality of both BYU and Utah players at this age and, except in a few instances inapplicable to BYU or Utah, it has nothing to do with the coaches.

    While I have plenty to say about the lack of class from Utah's fans, particularly when I face the drunken vulgarity that accompanies attending games at rice eccles stadium, I don't function under any kind of dillusion that BYU players would never get into this type of trouble. Anyone who does is seeing life through blue tinted goggles. There are plenty of potential bar fighters on BYU's team and plenty of Mormon RMs on Utah's team. The potential for this is probably greater at the U, but it's less forgivable at the Y where they've agreed to an honor code. Sad story regardless.

  • dhw
    June 4, 2009 1:38 p.m.

    I take no joy in watching a young man mess up his life, and this is from a man that bleeds BYU blue. Having said that, he really could have killed the individuals that he assaulted, so, justice has to take its course. By the way, just a question, what is the average gpa and sat score for a Utah freshman?

  • CougarDude
    June 4, 2009 1:34 p.m.

    Unfortunate event. Could happen to anyone. It's no time to cast judgement on a good program with a good coach.

  • Football Players
    June 4, 2009 1:15 p.m.

    The difference between football players getting in trouble and regular students is - The regular students don't get their name plastered all over the news if something happens. Athletes are held to a high standard phyically. But what they don't realize is the same is true emotionally.

    Having said that - really there is no excuse for this behavior. Bad form to all those who don't do what they are obligated to do for a university's athletic department. It's simple - you don't behave and do schoolwork - you don't play or go to school. Coaches weren't hired to be babysitters they are hired for their knowledge of football. It should be the University's responsibility to deem punishment for bad behavior. You sign a contract once you become a student at a University. If you represent a University and you commit these crimes.. you are no longer a student. Of course, every circumstance is unique. But the university will have more resources to deal with this than a coach. Plus the coach's name doesn't get dragged through the mud with the player's.

  • Blue
    June 4, 2009 12:42 p.m.

    Bad things like this happen on both teams. It is a shame that it happened. I believe Whitingham will manage the situation appropriately. Even though I bleed blue I beleive Whitingham is as committed to the image of the team and what is good for the school and individual as is Bronco.

  • Henry Drummond
    June 4, 2009 12:34 p.m.

    This goes to show why BYU has lost 24 out of 25 games to ranked teams while Utah has gone to two BCS bowls and cleaned up both times. No wonder Max Hall fumbles the ball and throws so many interceptions. No wonder BYU just can't seem to win the Big Game. You need to quit waiting for "Magic to Happen", and get into some bar fights.

    Have some spunk Bronco. Take the team out for a night on the town and see what happens. You don't need to worry about breaking the Honor Code, think of it as being like "holding". Yes its against the rules but you're promoting BYU's unique lifestyle to the world so its OK.

    Think of how fast your defensive secondary will get as they train by running from the cops after clobbering a couple of hapless patrons in a bar.

    Have the O-Line bust up some saloons the night before The Big Game and see what a difference it makes in pass protection. You may win a National Championship ... a real one this time.

  • Ref: '03 was not
    June 4, 2009 12:21 p.m.

    Also in the short memory category, all were found not guilty or charges dropped. Not so with Ratliff.

  • Roid rage?
    June 4, 2009 12:21 p.m.

    Could this altercation have been fueled by roid rage? Football players and other athletes have been known to use that stuff, u know. Just look what's happened to Kyle Gunther since he's no longer in the program. He's lost about 70 lbs. When Whitt visited him at 1280 The Zone he was shocked and said he couldn't even use him as a tight end now.

    June 4, 2009 12:20 p.m.

    Give him a break. It's not like he killed, shot, or assaulted anyone really bad. People get in fights, there are two sides to every story. Sounds like he was just running from the cops -- who knows what they would have done to him in that moment.

  • '03 Was Not So Long Ago
    June 4, 2009 11:25 a.m.

    Not that it excuses what Neal did, but certain BYU fans have short memories. A state grand jury indicts four Cougars in '04 of gang rape, and our guy gets in a bar fight?

    Look at just the past few weeks of what players across the country have been caught doing, it is clear that Utah by and large recruits players of high character.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 11:23 a.m.

    Don't we want the consequence to at some point benefit Mr. Neal? I'm a BYU fan, I have no business commenting on how Coach Whittingham will respond. I trust that he has the best interests of his players at heart - that is his job. He is the one that will know what to do. If he doesn't do the right thing if somebody else's opinion - so what?

  • Utah Lady
    June 4, 2009 11:17 a.m.

    I just have to remind myself that the immature BYU fans who write on these blogs are not indicative of all BYU fans

    It is always sad to see a young person make a mistake that could cost him his future. I hope things work out for him. It would be wrong to deny him the chance to make things right.

    I applaud Kyle Whittingham for respecting his team and his player by not talking to the media. He is a class act.

  • Re:Just Me
    June 4, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    Things get swept under the rug all the time? Really, like what? As a matter of fact, these guys' academics and personal lives are subject to more scrutiny than the rest of the students. You are playing fast and loose with the truth.

    My point about the prima donna treatment is this: Sure, you may have heard of Mo Neal. Could the average Utah fan pick him out of a crowd? I seriously doubt that.

    If you think a player getting in a bar fight is a black eye for the U., take a look around the rest of the country at what players get caught doing. This is nothing. Even at BYU a few years back with the rape incident.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 11:02 a.m.

    stuff happens! dont let him play a game or two depending on what thecourts find him guilty or not guilty

  • Remember Harvey?
    June 4, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    Mr.Unga was selling perscription drugs,and breaking into busineses,after he sighned with byu.And one cannot forget the running back who punched the women in the theater for talking during the movie.
    It happens on all campuses.This doesent mean its right.This is just another example of athletes thinking they are above the law.The preveious two mentioned have cleaned up there acts,I hope Mo can to.

  • Re: Just Ask Him
    June 4, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    If the guy has a lawyer, he's already been counseled to not talk to anyone about what happened. If he told Whittingham "the whole truth" then Whittingham could be subject to being a witness for the prosecution. Last time I checked, football coaches aren't affodred the same confidentiality privilege as lawyers and rabbis. Whittingham is wise to wait until the legal system runs its course.

  • Just Ask Him
    June 4, 2009 9:42 a.m.

    Why is it that Whittingham has to wait for the court process to run its course? Why not call the player into his office today and ask him to tell the truth, the whole truth, so he knows how to deal with the situation. Tell the kid to tell him the truth and then tell him that his penalty will be more severe if he finds out later that he lied. That will get the players attention and Whittingham will know what he has to do when the time comes regardless of how the court process turns out. Then show real integrity if the guy got off the hook on a technicality but suspended him anyway because he knows the guy is guilty.

  • again...
    June 4, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    Way to go Utes.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    I am a byu fan but really the utes do a good job of getting good people and players. Other cougar fans need to lay off its not like utah has the problems of say Penn State Iowa or The real U(Miami). Kids make mistakes and as far as i can tell the utes usually do right by them.

  • Sad
    June 4, 2009 8:22 a.m.

    What a pathetic article to have to read. Kid made a big mistake and should be punished. Too bad, looked like he had some potential to be a player.

    Suspend him for at least the first couple games depending on what the courts say. Possibly more.

    Or you could make him just red shirt like the TDS does with their DUI recruits.

  • Great School
    June 4, 2009 8:14 a.m.

    I just wonder how many crimes get covered up by cops and campus security that are UTE fans.

    Neal, way to dishonor all the great players that have played for the UTES.

    Ouch black eye!

  • justme
    June 4, 2009 7:46 a.m.

    I'm not just referring to THIS athlete. It starts in high school (sometimes before) where many of the star players get treated differently. Things get "swept under the rug" all the time.

    If these guys were actually held accountable for their "mishaps" then maybe by the time they were grown men, they'd act like grown men instead of thugs.

    And just because he wasn't a "starter", it doesn't mean he wouldn't have been one this year. He's obviously got talent or he wouldn't have gotten this far. Now it may be too late, though.

    Regardless of the school this is a black eye (again) for college sports, and doesn't help the overall image.

  • Anonymous
    June 4, 2009 7:42 a.m.

    I think what "let see" was trying to say with Kruger, though rather stupidly, was that Mo Neal was treating his victim the way Kruger was treated.

  • The utes will do nothing.
    June 4, 2009 7:16 a.m.

    Look at what happened to Ratliff (nothing) after his sexual assault was not revealed until after the season was over.

  • Ute in Philadelphia
    June 4, 2009 7:13 a.m.

    I don't see any prima donna treatment either. Coach Whittingham will wait out the justice system for a verdict, then take appropriate action.

    I really irks me when Americans can't tell the difference between an indictment and a conviction. In this "land of the free" where one is "innocent until proven guilty", it amazes me how many people want action BEFORE THE COURTS!

    The ONLY people who know the circumstances of the assault, and whether or not this young man is guilty, are the witnesses. And they will all have their day in court.

    Coach Whittingham already booted one 4-star player off the team for team violations in Marquis Wilson. But only AFTER his conviction. It was the right thing to do. And we went to the BCS without him.

  • Re:re:Justme
    June 4, 2009 7:11 a.m.

    I understand what you're saying but don't put words in the mouths of the rest of Utah fans. Neal was expected to contribute greatly this year. If you can't recognize or know the names of the second string how could you call yourself a fan? Or did you just start cheering for the U this year?

  • A Ute
    June 4, 2009 5:55 a.m.

    Mark my words.......This guy is done.

  • Foolish
    June 4, 2009 12:31 a.m.

    Ummm I think any real Utah fan would know who Mo Neal is. He started several games last year due to injuries and played in the sugar bowl. That said I also think most of these comments are idiotic. He was arrested just like anyone, he is in jail with bail set and he will be dealt with in a fair manner once the legel process is over. Coach Whit is very good at that and he has kicked others off the team for behavior not becoming a Ute. And to the idiot making the comment about Kruger. Go back,read the story, he was actually trying to end the fight and protect someone not fighting himself when he was stabbed, get off your high horse and last but not least stop comparing BYU and Utah, you cant and BYU has had more than it share of issues of this nature. Or did you forget about the rape incidents oh not so long ago?

  • Re: let's see
    June 4, 2009 12:30 a.m.

    Get off your high horse. No one asked your opinion. This article has nothing to do with your pompous team and program.

    And to re:justme...if you haven't heard of Mo Neal, you're not much of a fan. Go cheer for byU where 10% of the stadium knows what's happening on the the field.

  • Re:justme
    June 3, 2009 11:14 p.m.

    He's a back-up middle linebacker. To say he's treated like a prima donna is ridiculous. I'd never heard of him till now, and you'd be hard pressed to find a fan who could recognize him or the rest of the second string. Sly Sylvester, Koa Misi, guys like that, maybe, and even then I wouldn't say they exactly get the "star" treatment.

  • justme
    June 3, 2009 9:18 p.m.

    It's unfortunate that athletes are protected from day one so they think they are invincible. How can anyone behave that way and believe there'd not be serious consequences?

    Make them be accountable just like any other citizen who participates in such thuggery. Maybe if all athletes see that there ARE consequences for this flagrant display of stupidity behavior will change.

    This type of thing is UGLY. It can happen at any school as long as the athletes continue to be treated as prima donnas.

  • Utah Fan!!!!
    June 3, 2009 7:41 p.m.

    Just slap his hands tenderly, so we can get a bunch more like him!!

    It's GREAT for our program to stay in the NEWS!!!!

  • Let's See......
    June 3, 2009 7:26 p.m.

    BYU and their football program was literally mocked last season when their head coach flat-out admitted that football was not his nor the school's number one priority, instead saying that pursuits such as obtaining an education or service to your fellow man was more important.

    Coach Whittingham, while I believe him to be a good man, has not set the same tone for his players.

    And what do we get?

    At Utah, one player last year was stabbed in the stomach in a fight at a party (that was Krueger, wasn't it?) and now one of their own beats one guy completely unconscious and then repeatedly kicks another man while he's down on the ground, largely defenseless in that position. (I mean, when's the last time you got attacked by a dude lying on the floor?)

    BYU, on the other hand, had a player suspended for kicking in a door (a door!, not a person) after someone threw a water ballon at his girlfriend.

    Yeah, those are about equal crimes.

    I bleed cougar blue and want to win but I'll take "football isn't number one" and good behavior any day of the week.

  • G
    June 3, 2009 7:20 p.m.

    I smell another toothless suspension coming.

    Maybe he'll have to miss the first week of practice or something.

  • Anonymous
    June 3, 2009 7:19 p.m.

    Way to represent!

  • kick him off the team
    June 3, 2009 7:00 p.m.

    send a message that it is a privilege to be on the team and if you break the rules , you pay the dues! In this day and age i would hope we had progressed way pass this stage of behavior...and don't say anything about youth etc to cover up this one. Football is a game when one steps off the field all the work and descipline of focus along with control should prevail. I love the utes but not a one of them are given any more rights or entitlement then anyone else! If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen be a role model as you have disapointed more than yourself!!

  • Skippy
    June 3, 2009 6:58 p.m.

    What an idiot

  • Typical
    June 3, 2009 6:48 p.m.

    More drunken thugs play for Utah than any other team! More ute students show up drunk at RES than any other stadium in the MVC. Utah, clean up your act! You are an embarassment to Ute alum.

  • Re: What?
    June 3, 2009 6:45 p.m.

    If this guy went to BYU, their fans would be justifying it by saying how tough the honor code is.

  • What?
    June 3, 2009 6:40 p.m.

    If this guy went to BYU the Ute trolls would be all over him.

  • I am a Utah Man Sir
    June 3, 2009 6:35 p.m.

    Just another unfortunate situation for a very successful team