Dick Harmon: BYU opener in Arlington anticipated

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  • Re: byufan
    May 19, 2009 11:12 p.m.

    "I'm a BYU fan but I can admit that Utah is GREAT and BYU is not."


    I don't wanna accuse you of not being a byu fan. I don't like inuendos...but let me say this...

    I'm a UTAH fan, but I can admit that BYU is great and UTAH is not.

  • Anonymous
    May 19, 2009 7:46 p.m.

    All you u-tah fans are just jeolous because it is'nt you thats playing in it. Oklahoma would blow you away too! You played a disinterested Alabama team that was missing 2 starting offensive lineman. They would beat you 9 out 0f 10 times if played. OU has a completely different offensive line this year. It will be closer than you think. We have all our tough games at home this year as you did last year. The difference is you didnt play anybody. Our schdule is much tougher than yours was last year. OUCH!!

  • Re: 11:37 a.m.
    May 16, 2009 12:31 p.m.

    Thanks for the cash, I appreciate it.

    Too bad Utah fans don't have the grace to back it up with, I'd almost prefer that over the money.

  • Re: Hard Facts
    May 16, 2009 11:37 a.m.

    Hard fax this
    Utah can't lose a bowl game and BYU can't win with consistency in bowl games. Utah ?
    8 in a row THE NATIONS LONGEST.
    Utah gave 1.5 million dollars to BYU and not one Blue Bloods said thank you for the BCS Bowl WIN$
    More cat scat ?
    Oh yeah we'll blame it on the nation having a down year in college football.
    What's with that excuse ?
    College Football had a down year ?
    Just because you embarrassed the MWC with a unforgivable loss does not mean college football had a down year.
    Every year in college football the teams rebuild.
    That statement alone is reaching the bottom of the barrel, even for a YBU supporter.
    Maybe that snotty Hard Facts guy can tell me why Bronco only took 6 practices out of the scheduled 16 for the Vegas bowl and then the rise and shouters saw their team Lose 21-31 against the fifth place Pac-10 team
    Hard Facts ??
    How many BYU fans in the stands were over 12 ?
    How many over 16 ?
    With almost half the students UTAH sold out each game and had standing room only.
    Just $ay Thank$

  • YAWN
    May 15, 2009 4:03 p.m.

    Can you say BLOWOUT!!
    OU rolls and has the 3rd stringers driving down the field.

  • Re: 12:16 a.m.
    May 14, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    Utah isn't the team now BECAUSE IT'S THE OFF SEASON. Utah might have been the team LAST year, but you're not a consistent program and you haven't shown that AT ALL yet. Your program is about as good as North Carolina's. One momentary flash of brilliance. Keep watching your bowl reruns because maybe you'll keep winning bowls, but they will be Humanitarian Bowl wins from now on.

  • Puzzled
    May 14, 2009 11:48 a.m.

    RE: 12:15 a.m. poster

    So you're saying games at BYU are not well attended? I'm guessing you've never been to a
    BYU home game. The stadium consistently gets 63-65 thousand people. Attendance trailed during the Crowton years, but has been great with Mendenhall. Ute attendance has been very good, filling your 45,000 seat stadium for big games. Cougar attendance is just fine thanks, so check your "facts".

  • RE: Re: Zoob Nation
    May 14, 2009 12:16 a.m.

    Re: Zoob Nation | 8:25 a.m. | 11:35 p.m. May 13, 2009

    far better? then put the people in your stands, oh that right, I-15 is deadlocked when the cougars are playing at home. Come up with something better, the utes and fans will be back to earth really soon.

    Come with something better? You mean besides facts about wins/loses, head-to-head records, record against ranked teams, BCS wins... oh wait not those stats but fan traffic on I-15 on game day?!?

    Let me check on ESPN...

    CONGRATULATIONS!!! You are the 2008 National Fan-champions... hey now you have something to show to your recruits.

    Hands down BYU was the best program in the 80s... I know I lived through the beatings year in year out. BUT Utah is the team now!! In the last 10 years the best non-BCS team.

  • Re: Go Zoobs!! | 11:53 p.m.
    May 14, 2009 12:03 a.m.

    Oh the truth hurts, doesn't it! Hard to face that fact!

  • Go Zoobs!!
    May 13, 2009 11:53 p.m.

    Face the facts | 11:43 p.m. May 13, 2009
    "Utah NEVER would have gotten a sniff to the BCS if..."

    Only in Zoob Nation do facts begin with a IF!

    If U had gone 13-0 U would have had a Quest for Perfection season.

  • Face the facts
    May 13, 2009 11:43 p.m.

    Utah NEVER would have gotten a sniff to the BCS if the rest of the "traditional" dominate teams, had played up to their potential. Utah happen to luck out while the nation had a down year in college football. Any ordinary year utah would have been in the "vegas bowl" but then again probably not, because BYU has a better draw when it comes their fan base.

    Face the cold hard fact.

  • Re: Zoob Nation | 8:25 a.m.
    May 13, 2009 11:35 p.m.

    far better? then put the people in your stands, oh that right, I-15 is deadlocked when the cougars are playing at home. Come up with something better, the utes and fans will be back to earth really soon.

  • Go Utes!!!
    May 13, 2009 7:49 p.m.

    Sugar highlights are great but I am bored so rather pick on old and slow big brother that even he can remember the last time he beat a good team. Yet still claims to be national powerhouse. FYI BYU football is as relavant as VHS.

  • Re: confused
    May 13, 2009 6:57 p.m.

    AMEN! Thank you for noticing.

    Utah fans, leave. No likes you or cares about you or wants to hear about what you have to say, so BEAT IT. This is about BYU and Oklahoma, not you. You had your one little season in the spotlight, so you have that to relish over. Your time would be better spent watching Sugar Bowl reruns than here.

  • Confused
    May 13, 2009 4:24 p.m.

    I thought this was an article about the Dallas football stadium and the future game between BYU and Oklahoma. What does that have to do with BYU/Utah rivalry? Both sides take your smack elsewhere and talk about the article.

  • re: Little Whiny Dave
    May 13, 2009 3:55 p.m.

    Please Cougar fans, stop trying to make excuses for the "Quest" and leave that job to Donko.

    The "Quest" was about going undefeated and getting into the BCS.

    It only turned into a non-football "Quest" after TCU kicked the Cougars heads in.

    When your team breaks their huddle in fall practice by saying "BCS," the goal in your mind is BCS. Not living a life spiritually of perfection, as Donko wants you to believe.

    Cougar fans are so blind they will believe anything that comes out of Donko's mouth.

    Don't the Cougars play Utah State this year as well? And a Tulane team that won 2 games last year? Just because you're taking $3 million to get whipped by Oklahoma don't assume you're schedule is a good one. Now if you had a shot at beating a ranked team like Oklahoma, 1-23 or some awful record, your schedule could help you accomplish what Utah already has. But you've shown your inability to beat good teams enough that nobody expects that.

  • Big Dave
    May 13, 2009 2:47 p.m.

    Let's get the record straight in saying that BYU won in the MWC title in 2006 and 2007. In 2008 they went 10-3. BYU is not a team that was good a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. BYU is still a good team. Utah is a good team. Last year Utah had a great season.
    I understand Utah fans missing the spotlight from last season, but the reality is that BYU is a good team that has good antional recognition.
    I really feel sorry for Ute fans who still cannot contemplate the difference between a perfect football season and what Bronco has said many times was the intention and purpose. Although, I did have to attend the Utah commencement recently and I can understand where the inability comes from.
    BYU has a chance to beat a great team at a great venue. Be happy for them and look forward to the rivalry game. Just be glad that you will be playing Utah St. on a Thurs. that week and then the next week San Jose St. You should start out 2-0.

  • For a team
    May 13, 2009 2:42 p.m.

    . . .who's not nationally recognized it sure seems like the Utes care a lot more about us than they do about their own fetching team!

    Honestly if BYU is a nobody team why do you persist so much on commenting on our articles?

  • BYU Nationally Recognized as....
    May 13, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    A team who was very good long ago. Dominated a league that had little football prowess. And is now unable to compete talent wise with even the top two teams in its own conference.

    Sorry, but losing the Vegas Bowl to an average Pac-10 team is not what a "nationally recognized" program does.

    Going to 2 BCS games in 4 years, and winning both, one against the team ranked #1 for much of the season, is what a "nationally recognized" program does.

    Printing T-Shirts about being "perfect," only to fall flat on their faces, is not what a team who is "nationally recognized" does.

    Being undefeated, while beating 4 ranked opponents, is what a "nationally recognized" program does.

    The 80's are over. BYU is only recognized nationally by patrons in LDS wardhouses, not by media or fans who pay attention today. They are a name, for people 30 and over, nothing more.

  • Re: 11:12 a.m.
    May 13, 2009 12:39 p.m.

    The Utah team last year was the best team Utah's ever had. The past few BYU teams have been good, but not the program's best. Things are looking UP for BYU from here. You honestly think that because of one "bad" 10-3 year that it's all downhill for BYU from here. Boise St. had a "bad" 10-3 season in '07 before doing what it did this year. What about the TERRIBLE '05 '06 and '07 years for Utah after Meyer left?

    Utah has had TWO great TEAMS, period. The PROGRAMS do not even compare. Utah has about a decade ahead of repeating what it has done recently to be nationally recognized the way BYU is. Utah hasn't stood the test of time.

  • re: BYU
    May 13, 2009 11:12 a.m.

    No, the reason everyone is always talking about BYU football is because BYU loves to hype themselves, with some assistance by the DNews.

    BYU has to tell everyone what is going on with each spring practice, because they love to hear themselves talk.

    And all they have is talk. Ute fans are not worried about the football team. They are able to accomplish their goals, unlike the TDS. Kyle will have the team ready to go. And he doesn't need to print T-Shirts to get the media to buy into the program. He just shuts his mouth, and wins games. Bottom line.

    Plus Utah isn't the program staring at a humiliation come September, BYU is.

  • BYU
    May 13, 2009 9:19 a.m.

    Once again, everyone wants to know what's happening around BYU football. Where's the 100 comments about U football? Oh ya. I know. Everyone is dreading what's coming this year at the U. Some crazy stories exist that say they'll be good again, but none can say why. No QB, no receivers, average RB's and lost the only impact players on D. Sounds like a great club to me.

  • RE: Re: 4:15 p.m.
    May 13, 2009 8:48 a.m.

    BYU was lucky it was only 6 INTs because there were two that were dropped. What it says is Utah's defense kept them in the game while Ludwig stumbled his way to a victory. Utah's defense was great, just ask Bama.

    Guess what genius 0-12 Washington was 2 points from beating BYU. Just face it BYU has no defense and cannot beat ranked teams. If I am wrong then please tell me when was the last time they beat a ranked team?

  • Zoob Nation
    May 13, 2009 8:25 a.m.

    I think we can all agree that national respect is earned by winning big games.

    So lets see...

    BYU: 1-23 against ranked teams
    UTAH: 2-0 in 2008 against top-10 teams, 4-0 top-25

    As far as OU-BYU. BYU will get slaughtered, to say they have a chance just like Utah-Bama is absolutely ridiculous considering Utah's defence was great last year and BYU stunk.

    BYU defence allowed...

    0-12 Washington to score 27 points one shy from their season best against Standford
    35 points by UNLV at LES
    42 points against CSU
    BYU got smacked around by ranked teams

    BYU is a good program but you Zoob Nation are living in a bubble if you think that over the last 10 years big brother is relevant on the national stage.

    Utah as still work to do but they are by far the best program in the state... today... not 1980s.

  • re: Re: 4:15pm
    May 13, 2009 8:23 a.m.

    Sugar Bowl Champs

    Dang Utes were so lucky last year. I only with Bronco had paid up his tithing like Kyle must have, the Cougars would have been the "Perfect" team.

    I find it so amusing that a team who commited 6 turnovers doesn't think they were completely outclassed. Silly like Cougar fans.

  • Re: 4:15 p.m.
    May 12, 2009 9:58 p.m.

    The fact that you needed 6 turnovers to set up 24 of your points is saying something too. Whotah was not as good as they like to think they were last year. A last second touchdown to beat AFA and a 3 point win over UNM, regardless if it was on the road shows that you weren't as invincible as you like to think you were.

    BYU also scored more points against Utah than Alabama did last year. If they can put up points against the "mighty Utah defense," especially with 6 turnovers, then they can certainly compete with Oklahoma. The way BYU played I'm surprised we didn't get shut out. I'm not saying BYU will necessarily win but there's no question that they have a chance, and if they play their A-game they will be a competitive team in this game.

  • Dave
    May 12, 2009 6:32 p.m.

    The only difference was that Utah actually had a fighting chance, oh yeah, and some heart, which doesn't make my comment anything close to being "exactly like what ESPN said." I'm trying to remember how well the Cougars finished last year....anyone, anyone?

  • RE! Some Lame Ute Fans-
    May 12, 2009 5:03 p.m.

    I wish I was a Saint and could predict how both BYWHO and the MIGHTY UTES were going to do this season-- in fact if I were that good I'd place some rather large bets in Las Vegas.. Oh golly, I better not bet-- I'm sorry

  • re: Big Dave
    May 12, 2009 4:15 p.m.

    Please, don't compare BYU with the Utes from 2008. The Utes were about 24 points and 6 turnovers better (48-24) than the team BYU fielded last year. And with the loss of Collie and the senior O-Line, that discrepancy is even larger now. Not to mention Oklahoma is a better team than Bama. Not by much seeing how Bama played Florida, but they are a better team.

    Utah had the athletes to at least compete with Alabama before the game started. Everyone was picking Alabama to win, but not a large margin (except Barry Switzer).

    BYU didn't have the athletes last year to even compete with Utah or TCU, and looked slow against an average Pac-10 team in Vegas. What makes you think they are going to be more athletic and quicker this year? Assuming they can put some defense together is like saying the Jazz could win the title if they only could play some inside defense. Neither is close to a reality.

    If you want to play the underestimating card fine, but do not try to compare this BYU team with the Utes, who managed to be "Perfect" last year.

  • Big Dave
    May 12, 2009 3:42 p.m.


    You sound exactly like what ESPN and half the country said about the Utah/Alabama game.
    If you don't respect BYU as a legitimate team can you really say Utah deserves respect?
    BYU has a great offense returning. Assuming they can put some defense together they can compete with OU. If the right pieces fall in place they can make it happen. BYU has the talent to win especially if OU underestimates them out of the gate.

  • Dave
    May 12, 2009 2:57 p.m.

    Yeah it would be great to have the Cougars win this game for the recognition it will bring to the state and the league, but come on, who really believes the game won't be over by halftime? Even if OU is having a down year, I really don't think BYU has any chance to compete at that level. I'm sure the Sooners will have some practices where they actually hit with pads on, while this will likely be the first full contact practice/game that BYU will have since the Spring game.

  • Big Dave
    May 12, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    This is going to be a great game, in a great venue, with two great teams. I feel sorry for the Ute fans here either relishing at predicting an OU romping (which I admit could happen) or saying the BYU is horrible now.
    You should hope BYU will beat OU both for the national recognition of the MWC and so we can improve the importance of the Utah-BYU rivalry.
    Congrats on beating Alabama, Utah. I think your offense will struggle this next year, but so will BYU's defense.
    Just because BYU got a great game in a great venue don't get your knickers in a twist.

  • re: buddy
    May 12, 2009 2:15 p.m.

    Credit due.

    BYU is a solid football program. They have a nice history of dominating the WAC when the WAC had few football powers. They beat teams they should beat, and lose to teams who are equal or better regularly. Their ceiling appears to be the Vegas Bowl.

    Your comments about the 7 games within 3 BCS games is probably the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on this website. Heck, the Cougars came within 6 games of winning the NCAA championship this year too, it's a banner season!

    I love how Cougar fans classify the Utes BCS runs as "good years." Talk about not giving credit. Good is what the Cougars have been recently. Great it what the Utes have done twice now. Don't get those two differences confused.

    Ask Alabama if Utah has a top football program? Nationally the Utes are now getting lumped into the annual group of teams who have a good chance to play in the BCS. BYU is classified as the team likely to print their intentions on T-Shirts, only to fail.

  • Dave
    May 12, 2009 2:01 p.m.

    When will you zoobies realize you are now a second rate program in the Mtn West, you won't ever regain the glory of the 80's. Heck the cougars don't even hit in practice or practice in pads, seems to me that before too long byu will move into a club level flag football league where they'll get beat by the intramural teams from Logan, Salt Lake, and Ephraim.

  • Quest T-shirts
    May 12, 2009 1:57 p.m.

    Does anyone know where I can get my allotment of Quest for Perfection shirts in blue this year? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  • The fact that Utah
    May 12, 2009 1:48 p.m.

    is consistently compared to BYU, and not the other way around, speaks volumes.

    The fact that Utes make that comparison by diparaging BYU, says even more. And it isn't good.

    BYU may well get humiliated by OU, but the fact that Utes are predicting it, and already glorying in it, does not discourage anyone. BYU is in the game, you are not.

    And you predicted an equal humiliation last year - against UCLA.

    Even loyal blue BYU fans will admit that BYU was a headcase last year. If Max and company show up with the right head this year... I'll take our chances.

    Thanks OU fans, for good spirited fan talk.

  • easy there buddy
    May 12, 2009 1:44 p.m.

    Re: 12:52 p.m.

    K you really need to settle down. Utah has had 2, I repeat, 2 good years in their ENTIRE 150 some odd years of football program history. Maybe we should say Wake Forest deserves to be mentioned with all the top programs in the country because their football program has had 2 great years in their whole 200 years of football also. And you're over here talking about 6 BCS bowl games? You really need to calm down, seriously. Maybe BYU will win the next 12 conference championships outright because they have won 2 in the last 3 years. BYU has come within 7 games of going to 3 BCS bowls in the past 3 years. So to say BYU is NEVER going to go to a BCS bowl is really just dumb. Utah fans will never give credit where credit is due.

  • Lie
    May 12, 2009 1:14 p.m.

    "If you were to lie down the Empire State Building beside one of the arches ...."

    Huh? "lie"? - it's "lay"! - or was that a lie? - meaning not telling the truth? ..lol

  • re: Rich
    May 12, 2009 12:52 p.m.

    Correction. Going to BYU means you'll never see a BCS game. Going to Utah means you'll get to experience the 3-4-5-6 BCS bowl game for the school, depending on when you attend.

    The only way a BYU athlete goes to a BCS game is if they purchase a ticket and travel with Ute Nation. We've all seen that to be the truth haven't we.

    Georgia Tech and Colorado won a NC in the early 90's. Strangely enough their fans have moved on from then. When will Cougar fans join that club?

  • re: geezer
    May 12, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    Come on geezer. I know you're old enough to remember farther back than 3 years. You say 2 of 3, convenietly starting with the Cougars first win in 5 years against the Utes. Nobody is buying that garbage you're spouting.

    5 of 7
    6 of 10
    10 of 16

    Those are the current Utah victories in this rivalry. So yes, the Utes have been the dominate team in the rivalry in recent years.

    Also, I think the Utes will do just fine in LES this year. They have won 6 of the last 8 games in Lavell's stadium. With the two victories for the Cougs by 10 combined points or so. For as good as you claim to be at home, I guess that doesn't apply to the Sugar Bowl Champion Utes.

    Vegas Bowl or bust for the Cougs. That's how low the ceiling is for your team.

  • Rich
    May 12, 2009 12:42 p.m.

    The Honor Code has nothing to do with BYU's inability to land top-rated high school runners. Most recruits want to play in BCS bowl games for national championships, and the only way BYU or Utah can play in such a game is to win every single game and then have a bit of luck besides. An athlete who attends USC or even Northwestern has a better chance of playing on national TV in a highly regarded bowl game than any athlete who goes to BYU or Utah. This is why BYU and Utah hardly ever are able to recruit any of the top 200 rated high school athletes. When it comes right down to it, BYU and Utah are so closely matched that it's difficult to predict which team will win in their head-to-head matchup each year. But one of them has won a national championship.

  • Re: Howard Roark
    May 12, 2009 12:23 p.m.

    Love the name! Great book. Al Davis will build a bigger stadium that will be filled to about 10% capacity.

    Ragnar Daneskjold

  • Howard Roark
    May 12, 2009 11:47 a.m.

    I'd like to say this stadium is a tribute to Jerry Jones' ego but its not big enough.

    Jerry is only copying Daniel Snyder which begs the question; How long til Al Davis copies Jerry?

  • geezer
    May 12, 2009 11:35 a.m.

    re: 9:36 a.m.
    RE; 8:19
    I guess BYU is currently so horrible that they've beaten the Utes 2 out of the last 3 years. The Utes current program must be abysmal if they can't dominate lowly BYU. We'll see how the almighty BCS Utes do this year at LES. Better dead than red still works just fine.

  • Texan4OU
    May 12, 2009 9:53 a.m.

    it will be a good game. OU is loaded and will do very well. The ticket prices and thirty-five dollars to park is a joke. If you haven't been to the area, the highway system in arlington is a joke. Be prepared to wait for at least an hour in backed up traffic. I would rather this contest been played in Norman and a return to Provo. I am a long time season ticket holder with the Sooners and I hate giving any money to Texas as OU already plays the OU-UT game in Dallas, and if OU wins the Big 12 South, we will return to this Cowboy Stadium for the Big 12 Championship game.

  • re: 8:57AM
    May 12, 2009 9:43 a.m.

    You're forgeting one very important point. Yes, Oklahoma is better than Alabama was last year, thus the Cougars opponent will be better than the Utes was, but not by a huge margin, as Alabama showed by competing more with Florida than Oklahoma did.

    The biggest difference is the huge disparity in the Cougars team versus the Utes team who beat Alabama. I'd say the Utes are at least 24 points and 6 turnovers better than the Cougars (48-24), and that's with Austin Collie and a senior O-Line. That margin is even greater this year.

    The opponent is a little better, but the team wanting to pull of the upset is extremly inferior to the Sugar Bowl Utes.

    People didn't expect Utah to whip Alabama, but thought they could hang with them. BYU couldn't hang with the athletes at TCU, Utah and Arizona. Hate to see what happens in Dallas.

  • re: geezer
    May 12, 2009 9:38 a.m.

    Got over it old man. Nobody cares what happened in 1970 or 1980. Those results have no affect on anything that happens in the 2009 season. It just fills space in an old textbook on your shelf.

    As for the 2005 & 2009 BCS victories by the Utes, those results actually have an affect on the 2009 season. You see, when recruits get to see a team on television beat down Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, they add Utah to the list of BCS schools they are considering. When a kid gets to see grainy footage on KBYU of games played before they were born, they turn the channel.

    Your championships way back when are irrelevant on today's landscape. Georgia Tech and Colorado won a share of the NC back in the 90's, yet they don't still claim to have national respect. Just oblivious Cougar fans hold that distinction.

  • geezer
    May 12, 2009 9:38 a.m.

    re: 8:08 poster (re : National Persepective

    Here's the bubble you're living in. No one outside of Salt Lake City cares about your beloved Utes. Utah has no national credibility because the rest of the nation feels the same as I do about the Utes. They just don't care. Welcome to your bubble boy world.

  • re: Everything is riding on this
    May 12, 2009 8:57 a.m.

    The game was in the works LONG before Utah beat Alabama;

    The game is just a reflection of the national respect BYU football has been building since the 70's.

    Just like with Utan/Alabama, nobody will be expecting a BYU win.

    Then again, nobody was expecting a BYU win when the Cougars played #1 Miami. Or BYU's 59-0 shutout of a UCLA team BYU barely squeaked past in the Las Vegas Bowl just 6 months earlier.

    On paper, nobody expects the Cougars to stand a chance against the might Sooners (a team which was MUCH better than the Crimson Tide last season).

    Not having a chance, may give the Cougars just the edge they need to pull off the upset.

  • Re:Re-Reality Check
    May 12, 2009 8:26 a.m.

    Are these the kind of "facts" that you learn in school? What is an opinion and what is fact?

  • geezer
    May 12, 2009 8:19 a.m.

    RE: 10:51 A.m. poster

    You don't care what happened in the 80's cause you probably weren't thought of yet. Let me remind you. BYU won title after title and that is part of BYU's legacy. By the way, Utah was consistently HORRIBLE in the 70's and 80's. Your team was a complete joke. Go ahead and dismiss the Cougars past. Cougar fans can play that game too. We'll just dismiss the 2004 BCS win as a boring win over a mediocre Pittsburg team. 2008 was a win over a way overrated Alabama team that didn't show up to play the lowly Utes. Utah won't schedule the Oklahoma's, Florida's because they know the real Utes would be exposed.

  • re: National Perspective
    May 12, 2009 8:08 a.m.

    BYU has a national perspective, as long as your conversation is occurring in an LDS wardhouse somewhere around the country.

    Unfortunately for Cougar fans, that is the extent of their national pressence. They have become the third fiddle in the MWC, right behind their rival and TCU.

    BYU has "fans" nationwide, or that is to say LDS members who will pay some attention just because it's a BYU team.

    Take a step out of the bubble and read some national writers for a while, and no Dick Harmon is not a national writer. Even with losing their senior QB, Utah is still getting more national attention and respect than either TCU or BYU from most accounts. And why wouldn't they? Utah is far and away the class of the non-BCS conferences. And the envy of Cougar fans everywhere.

    BYU was chosen because yes there are LDS members in Texas who might purchase tickets or tune in, and because they pose no threat to the Sooners. You are the homecoming cupcake that real programs schedule to give their fans a show. At least you're getting $3 million for 3 hours of humiliation.

  • re: Thank You
    May 12, 2009 8:01 a.m.

    The last time you beat the Utes by more than 1 touchdown was 13 years ago. So your claim of 4 TD's just shows your ignorance.

    This rivalry has come down to two scenarios over the last decade. Either it's a close game down to the wire, in which case each team has pulled out 4 wins, or the Utes blow out the Cougars, which accounts for the other two Utah victories since 1999.

    6-4 last 10 for the Utes
    10-6 last 16 for the Utes

    No excuses needed, we are just better than you are.

  • Been there
    May 12, 2009 12:16 a.m.

    I was in Dallas a few weeks ago. I was heading to a Texas Rangers / Kansas City Royals game and I wasn't aware that the two stadiums are in the same area. I was just simply in awe when I recognized this new football facility. I have never liked the Cowboys, but I had to admit that this stadium was the best I had ever seen. I couldn't keep my eyes off of it as it was simply incredible.

  • Re: 10:08 p.m.
    May 11, 2009 11:02 p.m.

    You tried hard last year didn't you?

    May 11, 2009 10:39 p.m.

    OU 44 BYU 10

  • cute ute
    May 11, 2009 10:08 p.m.

    If we try hard we may win a national championship in football like BYU.

  • I Care
    May 11, 2009 8:44 p.m.

    Actually, I attended BOTH Utah and BYU. I actually graduated from BYU in '84. I follow BOTH football teams with great interest. I enjoy watching and cheering for BOTH teams along with, gasp, Boise State!

  • dvo
    May 11, 2009 7:05 p.m.

    the cougars will be fortunate to score.

  • Re-Reality Check
    May 11, 2009 5:50 p.m.

    Okay...so there was one person in Idaho that I didn't check with before writing that last post. I guess I was wrong. There is at least one person outside of the state of Utah who cares about the UofU football program. Although I'm still not sure why a UofU fan is reading about BYU and then taking the time to post on the message board.

    And yes I'm pretty sure I do know what a fact is. The fact is that BYU was scheduled to play OU because they're a well-known program and will draw well in TX and on TV. The UofU program is not at that level from a fan and $ perspective. That is a fact.

    Before you go throwing around BCS wins, etc (which, trust me, we're all well aware of), I'm talking about national attention and perception. BYU has it. The UofU football program doesn't.

    Whether BYU will win against OU is another question, but my main point was that BYU is viewed as a better program on a national level. It will take decades for the UofU to catch up.

  • Thank you Sooners
    May 11, 2009 5:43 p.m.

    So far the Sooner fans are showing a lot of class. Utah fans need to GROW UP. You are all an embarrassment to the MWC, college football, and most of all, society.
    Go away Ute trolls, this has nothing to do with you. When we beat you by 4 touchdowns this year I don't want to hear excuses like we got lucky or that it was obviously the refs fault, or our better, obviously faster athletes forgot to stretch before the game, that's the only real reason we lost so bad.

  • Re: Reality Check
    May 11, 2009 2:57 p.m.

    Fact: Based on this persons post, they do not know what a fact is.

  • I Care
    May 11, 2009 2:49 p.m.

    I live in Idaho and I CARE about UofU. I even tried to get on my ol' Utah letterman jacket when Utah played in the Sugar Bowl (it didn't fit).

  • Fred
    May 11, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    My goodness, You Utah people really like to fight with eachother. I think that you need to start thinking about your entire conference and how victories outside of your league by one are victories by all. OU respects all Utah teams (not saying that Utah State has been REALLY off lately), and I know that OU is honored to meet and play BYU. Not saying that OUs' spped and skill would not end up putting BYU in a world of hurt, the Coughers should enter this game as an opportunity to play well, represent their conference, and have fun.

  • re: @10:51
    May 11, 2009 2:41 p.m.

    Yawn. I was 4 when that happened. Please put down the dusty old textbook from your Sports History Course at BYU and step into the year 2009.

    T-Shirts = "Quest For Perfection." You can spin that anyway you like, as Bronco has tried to do, but fact is that when you want to be perfect, and you break your huddles saying "BCS," there is no hidden meaning. You are dying to do what Utah has done. Sadly you failed miserably, and Utah accomplished your "Quest."

    As for OU wanting BYU to play because of their name? Hahahahahaha!!!! This is the team that when they had their 1 opportunity to go to the BCS they were told to sit down and go away, right? That name didn't seem to mean much then did it. OU is not afraid to play anyone, even bringing that up is ridiculous. But this game was about finding an opponent who could draw some local fans (LDS members, not necessarily BYU fans) and would be a homecoming patsy.

    Take your pay day, and beating, and we'll all log on to hear the disgust with Maxie and the defense the next day.

  • Reality Check
    May 11, 2009 12:20 p.m.

    I get so tired of reading completely uninformed comments on BYU articles from UofU fans. All of you really need to get a clue. Yes, the UofU had a great season last year. Great.

    NO ONE outside of the state of Utah cares about the UofU. No one. Trust me, I've checked and I've talked to everyone outside of the state of Utah and really, no one cares about the UofU football team out here. Why do you think BYU was invited to this game and not MCW Conference Champ and Sugar Bowl winner UofU? Don't kid yourself by thinking OU is afraid to play UofU (or any non-BCS school) at a neutral venue...they're not. It's because people will come to the game to see BYU and it will attract a solid TV audience. That's not true of the UofU.

    It's a fact of life and reality that isn't going to change anytime soon. The UofU fan base is just too small and no matter how loud you whine and cry no one cares about your little program.

  • ouwooferman
    May 11, 2009 11:42 a.m.

    Funny thing happened on an OU BYU article... Losers from other schools show up and talk smack. Cant find good things to discuss on your own, but have to play the game elsewhere.

    Now to the game...OU has more team speed on both sides of the ball. This one will be over by half time. If BYU and OU are rebuilding their O line, i will take ou's line after practicing against our D. Finnally, OU will have the home field advantage...should prove interesting.

  • @10:51
    May 11, 2009 11:12 a.m.

    National Championships BYU-1 Utah-0
    14 win seasons BYU-1 Utah-0

    See, I can do that too. BYU was relevant before Utah even showed up on the radar. And I don't know which t-shirts you are referring to, but I have never seen BYU t-shirts stating that they are going to a BCS game. You can make a strong arguement without making up stuff. Utah has a very good program that is more relevant than BYU, but 2 BCS bowls does not put you where BYU has already been.

  • re: re: re: geezer
    May 11, 2009 10:51 a.m.

    BCS trips and victories - Utah 2 BYU 0

    Until you can accomplish what you like to print on T-Shirts, you are playing second, actually third behind TCU, fiddle in the MWC.

    That is a sad testiment to the BYU program.

    Nobody cares what happened in the 80's and 90's. You know what, the 76ers won an NBA title around the same time BYU was releveant in football. Only difference is their fans don't still live in the 80's like Cougar fans want to.

    1-22 versus last 23 ranked opponents. Pathetic bowl record. Those are the numbers that matter today.

  • RE: re: geezer
    May 11, 2009 9:39 a.m.

    When you can beat these teams:

    Penn St.
    Notre Dame
    Texas A&M
    Kansas State
    Arizona State
    Mississippi State
    Georgia Tech

    then we'll talk...utes are trying to follow BYU footsteps, but but they have a long ways to go...

  • sooner-boy
    May 11, 2009 9:30 a.m.

    this is going to be a good stat for OU. the sooners are loaded . they'll win by 2 or 3 touchdowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    OU 42- BYU 21

  • Dane
    May 11, 2009 9:16 a.m.

    Yes, it may have 14 intrances to the stadium from the interstate system, but unless the Tx Dept of Transp does one heck of a job this summer, there won't be any off-ramps within 5 miles of the stadium. Major construction along I-30 has everything East bound blocked for two miles before and 3 miles after the new Cowboys stadium, Six Flags, and the Arlington Ball Park as well. BTW, West bound I-35 isn't much better.

  • re: geezer
    May 11, 2009 9:10 a.m.

    Why would the Utes be jealous of BYU getting destroyed by Oklahoma? You forget that Utah actually wins games against BCS caliber teams, while the Cougars struggle to win in the Vegas Bowl against mediocre Pac-10 teams.

    When your Cougars win a big game, come back and we can discuss your commments. Until then you are just trying to follow in the Utes footsteps.

  • re: Y
    May 11, 2009 8:21 a.m.

    Yes, Oklahoma has had difficulties playing in BCS games in the past. And BYU has trouble beating mediocre Pac-10 teams in the Vegas Bowl.

    Kind of a big difference there isn't it. Even a blue-blooded Cougar fan should have realized that before spouting off. You print shirts about the BCS, while Oklahoma has played in as many BCS games as anyone in the country. Not even in their league Cougars.

    And as for the BYU fans comparing this game to the Sugar Bowl last year, lets just get that out of your minds right now. Utah was undefeated last year, and had the team speed to at least hang with Alabama right up front. Oklahoma is better than Alabama was, and BYU is much worse than Utah was, by about 24 points (48-24). BYU does not have the speed to even hang with a team like Alabama or Oklahoma for a quarter, let alone a game.

    Utah came in with a real chance to win the Sugar Bowl, BYU has a real chance to get paid $3 million to let Oklahoma beat on them for 3 hours. Nice pay day, predictable outcome.

  • geezer
    May 11, 2009 7:59 a.m.

    I'm beginning to think that this game will be a big plus for the BYU program. It will bring prestige, recruiting and and an excitement boost to the program. Even if the Cougs get waxed this game will be a bonus for the program. RE: beware! Eat your heart out. Maybe the Utes can get a big game with Weber State again.

  • beware !
    May 11, 2009 2:01 a.m.

    byu fans feel pretty confident going into this game, little know that in reality this will be a texas chainsaw massacre down in dallas. what was holmoe thinking ? putting maxie, pony and the kitties in a ring with the defending big 12 champs and runners-up in the bcs championship ?

    kyle would never do something so dumb. the utes will dominate again this year, and the kitties will whine.
    GO UTES !!!!

  • Utah not great in 09
    May 10, 2009 9:41 p.m.

    Utah was great in 08, but this is a new year, the year Utes play TCU, BYU and Oregon State on the road. It is an honor to play in Arlington, it will be fun no matter what. I wish we had Collie, but I hear Monase Tonga is back. I am a Cougar fan who also likes OU's coach and think OU is a classy bunch of fans and people.

  • Anonymous
    May 10, 2009 6:04 p.m.

    Dont worry about Utah, they are still heading for the exits not believing their team can comeback to win a game..

  • TrueRed
    May 10, 2009 5:34 p.m.

    Yaaawwwwnnnnn! at RE:4:49.............The past is nothing but the past.......do something when you have the chance to represent in 09--just a thud!

  • RE: Everything is riding...
    May 10, 2009 4:49 p.m.

    What are you talking about? Either you weren't born or you were ONE of the closet ute fans during the 90's who was afraid to show up at RES unless BYU came to town. Yes BYU lost to some team during the 90's, HOWEVER, WHAT ABOUT THESE WINS:

    Penn St.
    Notre Dame
    Texas A&M
    Kansas State
    Arizona State
    Oh ya and utah

    Moral of the story, Know your FACTS before you smack.

  • TO: byufan | 10:41 a.m.
    May 10, 2009 4:33 p.m.

    Whatever, your no BYU fan, Any BYU fan would never praise utah.

  • MWC unite
    May 10, 2009 3:28 p.m.

    If the BCS snobs are ever to be knocked off their arrogant, money-grubbing pedestals, BYU, Utah et al need to consistently start knocking off BCS teams. Any Mountain West victory over any BCS team needs to be celebrated by Cougars and Utes alike.

  • SAM
    May 10, 2009 12:24 p.m.

    GOOD NIGHT........ Im sick of the UTES and their claim for dominance. PUKE fans worry about Louisville and whoever else thats on your schedule ok. When the U can schedule some big time schools besides a sorry Michigan team that stunk then come back and claim your fame. You been in the BCS 2 years now. Good for you! Still no Championship. So if you werent Florida this year then you are just like the rest of college football. Does anyone remember who comes in second? Just UTE fans right! #2 ranking! PLEASE..........
    This is a huge game. BYU can schedule big time games. Now its time for them to step up and play like they want to belong with the big time programs. It will be a good game. Closer than alot of you think.

  • 5 game losing streak???
    May 10, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    First off "Brace Yourselves BYU Fans" BYU only plays 4 games going into USU. 2nd off, Tulane was 2-10 in a horrid C-USA. And there's no way in the world BYU loses to CSU in Provo. CSU has only beat byu once in provo since the mid 80s. And I wont even go into saying how ridiculous it sounds to hear an Aggie talk about beating BYU in Provo, which hasn't happened since the 70s.

    it is lame that every BYU article turns into a BYU-Utah thing. I'm a die hard byu fan, and I have NO CLUE, and couldn't care less what is going on with Utah articles.

  • I am a BYU fan, but...
    May 10, 2009 10:42 a.m.

    I love the Ute fans who post comments starting with, I am a BYU fan, but... You just lost all of your credibility pal.

  • Brace Yourselves BYU Fans
    May 10, 2009 5:13 a.m.

    BYU has a real shot of a 5 game losing streak before playing Utah State. If they lose to USU, we will know then we have reached the bottom.

    Until then, BYU fans ought to brace ourselves because the nightmare from last season is going to continue throughout the beginning of this season.

    I sure hope the Firesides are good.

  • Crazy Utah
    May 10, 2009 12:14 a.m.

    Sounds like some stadium. That's what I got from the article. Not sure what the most of the rest of you read.

  • Mountain Cat
    May 9, 2009 10:46 p.m.

    After the September 5th game the overall record will be BYU 2 Oklahoma 0.

    The Cougars walloped the Sooners in the Copper Bowl when John Walsh was calling the signals.

    May 9, 2009 10:35 p.m.

    The Y has absoulutely no chance to win this game. This game is going to be an embarassment to the MWC. The Y will lose by at least thirty points. I hate to admit this....but I would like to see the Y compete with OU. The MWC needs to show the world that they can compete with the BCS conferences....Unfortunately...the Y has not been able to have a good showing against average BCS teams...what is going to happen to the Y agains a top 3 team??? they will get slaughtered. That pathetic defense will walk off the feild with their tails inbetween thier legs.

  • Spudman
    May 9, 2009 10:28 p.m.

    Anonymous, you are lame. Utah and BYU have basically split their wins in the past 8 years. I don't see the Utes being any better than the cougs. Obviously, they had a good year in 2008,but I don't see them beating the cougars this year. They are the same losers that have never beat the Broncos.
    Good thing they aren't playing OU, they would really stink it up.

  • Honor Code???
    May 9, 2009 9:57 p.m.

    I'm sick of seeing the honor code used as an excuse for why BYU can't seem to land any so called "blue chip" athletes with speed. It's as if you people who do this are suggesting or stating that all fast athletes looking for a college are wanting a place where they can be free to sleep around, go clubbing and get drunk after games, and/or shoot themselves up every now and then without or whatever else without the consequences they'd have at BYU. I'm sure there are some high caliber athletes out there that wouldn't have a problem with the honor code. If BYU could get backs like Omarr Morgan and Tim McTyer of the '96 team, they'd be in great shape there. On offense, they will have O'neil Chambers, who had a much better spring this year, and McKay Jacobsen who is reported to be in much better post mission shape than Collie ever was his first year back, so I expect some great speed out of those two this year. I hope Chambers can break out and show the talent and speed for which he was recruited.

  • Anonymous
    May 9, 2009 9:41 p.m.

    7500 tickets is all they got! Man no wonder they had to request more! That is pretty weak

  • Anonymous
    May 9, 2009 9:28 p.m.

    I am a BYU fan but the glory days are fadeing fast with Utah getting it as far as recruiting. Utah was urbanized in 05 and have'nt looked backed since. BYU has the honor code and restrictions that hamper the truely great athletes that BYU needs but can't get. Speed kills and BYU has a truely lack of it. Utah gets it we don't or can't obtain it. Utah will challenge again for the championship and we will be 2nd or 3rd again. We simply don't have the speed. Oklahoma will destroy us. That will truely be ugly. I am not going to even bother to watch. Every great team has speed. The BCS Champ is full of athletes with speed. Utah will content or win the Mtn. West because Whittingham learned a valuable lesson from Urban Meyer speed kills. Florida has Two National Championships in the last 3 years, and Utah well has 2 BCS wins. End of story the tide has changed, and the sad thing about it is BYU just does'nt get the athletes they need to be BCS worthy at years end. Yes speed kills.

  • Lanny-EEEEEEEE!
    May 9, 2009 8:39 p.m.

    A few years ago, an Air Force coach stated the best way to beat BYU is to play them the first game of the year. More time to prepare. The best chance for BYU is to play Oklahoma the first game. They have a good record doing this. They beat Miami, Pittsburg, Texas A & M,and I think Texas. Hopefully, Oklahoma will not be at midseason form.

  • Voice of reason
    May 9, 2009 7:58 p.m.

    First game of the year. Months to rehearse the winning game plan. It's up for grabs. Can't wait.

  • BYU fan
    May 9, 2009 7:51 p.m.

    Good comments on here. Thank you to the other BYU fan who is honest enough to admit that Utah is great and BYU is only good. You have to be man enough to admit the obvious, otherwise it means nothing when we truly are great. Also, it's nice to see some fellow Cougs on here that actually believe we can win this thing. Of course we have a chance. Bronco has been making excuses about losing out of conference for so long some fans have forgotten that we used to win these games on a regualar basis. I was in Giant's Stadium in 1985 when we beat Boston College to kick off the season. Plently of other examples of BYU winning big out of conference games, Texas (twice), Pitt, Texas A&M, Penn State, etc. It's time for Bronco to focus on winning some out of conference games and putting us on the map nationally. Winning in conference is nice, but beating the big boys out of conference is what people remember. Just look at the Utes if you need any proof. Bronco needs to do something big this year or go, a la Rocky Long.

  • Everything is riding on this...
    May 9, 2009 7:20 p.m.

    Reasons that the BCS got on the phone and set this game up immediately after UTAH put a hurt on Alabama.

    1.BYU has a long history of choking in any big games. Think Detmer and any team from the 90s on

    2.Oklahoma got hook and laddered by Boise and are looking for a little payback I bet they will not overlook this one.

    3. First game of the season and a national audience to bring down any Mid-Major after this loss. This loss will be posted as the final reason why the MWC should be where it is

    No pressure Zoobs Maybe a pep talk by Whittingham before the game?

  • Joe
    May 9, 2009 6:56 p.m.

    My prediction is that BYU gets seriously thumped. It's not going to be pretty. I plan on being at the game and enjoying checking the place out.

    OU 56 BYU 20

  • Bob
    May 9, 2009 6:16 p.m.

    Really looking forward to this game. Just got confirmation on my tickets...no 100 or 150 left from OU ticket office. Still, being there when we play top talent is always a treat. BYU will be tough but it's fun playing class, non-conference opponents. Boomer and Sooner!

  • My prediction
    May 9, 2009 5:31 p.m.

    My prediction is that BYU squeaks a win in a shootout (45-42), carried by the offensive backfield and big games from the tight-ends. But Monday morning OU will be ranked higher in the AP.

  • Patrick
    May 9, 2009 3:42 p.m.

    September 5th can't get here soon enough!

    Boomer Sooner Baby!!

  • Osgrath
    May 9, 2009 2:29 p.m.

    I think and rational person knows that BYU will have its hands full in this game. I will watch because I enjoy watching football but I won't slit my wrists if the Cougars lose. On the other hand, I will make no predictions, either (the best way to make a fool of oneself); after all, it hasn't been so long since I and my buddy took our seats at Cougar Stadium just prior to kickoff against #1 ranked Miami, I remarked that the weather was perfect, and even though we didn't stand a snow-ball's chance in hell of winning, it was good to be there.

  • Sooner Livin'
    May 9, 2009 1:57 p.m.

    BYU has a chance...new juco wr's? OU got one juco commit, the rest have been in the system, OU is reloading. Isn't BYU breaking in a new offensive line? That will be fun breaking them in against questionably the toughest front seven in the nation. The only new d-backs will be the safeties, and one got quite a bit of playing time, Quentin Carter, and he likes to knock people's heads off.

    As far as the o-line, they will be more athletic than last year's line, and they just need time to gel. How good is your d-line? Is it better than the one that OU's line will face every day in practice? I don't think it will be close but I could be wrong, I have been before and will be again, but I hope they both play hard and good luck to BYU.

  • Foolish
    May 9, 2009 1:24 p.m.

    How foolish did I feel when I failed to recognize the irony in the comment about the Cowboys?

  • Anonymous
    May 9, 2009 12:49 p.m.

    BYU doesn't win big games. Why should this one be any different?

  • If BYU does win
    May 9, 2009 12:28 p.m.

    It likely won't be by a large margin. Chances are we will have to kick a field goal to beat them. Not a scenario I am comfortable with but just think if we pulled it off! Mitch Payne kicking a field goal to beat Oklahoma! Wow, that's almost funny. It could happen. Obviously the odds are against us but stranger things have happened in football. I can't wait!

  • BYU has a chance
    May 9, 2009 11:38 a.m.

    No one is giving BYU a chance at this game the same way no one gave Utah a chance vs Bama. Anyone in the MWC not pulling for BYU vs OU is stupid. This could really be the Y's chance to represent. It seems impossible for BYU to win if you don't visualize how it could be possible.

    OU's offense is potent with Sam Bradford, no question. But the O-line is new, just like the Y's, and the main receivers are gone, with new Juco guys coming in. BYU's receivers have more D-1 experience up to this point than OU's do. If BYU get's a good pass rush going and create pressure, which will be tough with a good QB like Bradford, BYU can LIMIT, not slow down, but LIMIT OU's points. On offense BYU will be able to move the ball and score. Oklahoma defends the run fairly well, but they will have a task on their hands defending Unga. That will open up the passing game and OU's pass defense has shown holes against the pass.

    I'm calling the final score OU 35, BYU 28.

  • RockOn
    May 9, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    I'm almost tempted to go just to see this Taj Mahal of sports. I'm staying away, however, because I'd like to see the Cougars do a repeat of Miami w/Ty. But, the last three away games I've attended were not pretty -- TCU, UCLA, Arizona. I'd seen several games at Rice-Edwards north (the boink, the Sark, the Doman, the Harline) and figured I'd excised the curse, but... love the Cougs too much to jinx them. Still, Dick, you make a compelling case to go.

  • Hmmm,
    May 9, 2009 10:49 a.m.

    I'm still waiting for all those Ute fans. I guess they aren't nearly as "lame" as cougar fans.

    The Sooners are going to ruin BYU's "perfect" season and their unbeaten 0-0 record that they had to start the season. Oh well, the cougs are resilient and will probably get into a bowl game just to lose and ruin the MWC's reputation as being a giant killer.

    Prediction, OK- 56 BYU - 17

    And that's a wrap!

  • tootall
    May 9, 2009 10:48 a.m.

    Manhattan Construction is not from Kansas, it's headquarters are in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

  • byufan
    May 9, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    I'm a BYU fan but I can admit that Utah is GREAT and BYU is not.

  • wake up
    May 9, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    The Dallas Cowboys you moron! How does oklahoma state or wyo figure into a game here? Arlington is in Texas. Are you geographically challenged to where this is news to you? Have you ever heard the name Jerry Jones associated with Laramie or Oklahoma? Wake up and use the brain which your maker placed in your head. No, the cougars will be lucky to be better than 9-4 this year.

  • Uncle George
    May 9, 2009 10:16 a.m.

    I agree with What idiots.

  • @Cowboys?
    May 9, 2009 10:04 a.m.

    "And which Cowboys would those be? Wyoming or Oklahoma State?"

    Probably the Dallas Cowboys.

  • What idiots
    May 9, 2009 9:46 a.m.

    This article was about the BYU - Oklahoma SOONERS football game in Dallas.

    Why does everyone have to make this into a UTAH is great or BYU is terrible article.

    How pathetic!

  • sob
    May 9, 2009 8:06 a.m.

    so when will the cowboys start winning again

  • Some Lame Ute Fans
    May 9, 2009 7:20 a.m.

    Time for some lame Ute fans to start making snide remarks. In '08 it was "But the Y didn't play anyone tough, waaaaahhhhhhhhh." In '09 it's going to be, "But the Y got slaughtered by OU." Meanwhile, BYU will march to another 11-2 or 10-3 season as the Utes still bask in their '08 glory and stumble to an 8-5 season, talk about how great they are for beating a "tough" San Jose St. team, and how the Poinsetta Bowl beats the Las Vegas Bowl any day.

  • Cowboys?
    May 9, 2009 6:37 a.m.

    "...a big chunk will go to Cowboy season ticket-holders."

    Why? And which Cowboys would those be? Wyoming or Oklahoma State?

  • Y
    May 9, 2009 4:38 a.m.

    After the Y beats OU in this game similar to what happens to OU in BCS games recently, it should help the Y recruit more high school talent from Texas and Louisiana who will be going to the Y instead of OU, Texas Longhorns, LSU, etc

  • Sam Bradford...
    May 8, 2009 10:58 p.m.

    ...just threw another TD pass.

    This is going to be UGLY!!! Or awesome, depending on your perspective.

  • Gretkzy
    May 8, 2009 10:33 p.m.

    sad that this is truly about Jerry Jones instead of college football. this is just another BSC-esque move for college football.