LDS Spanish-speaking women commended for faith

Relief Society sisters urged to unify despite hard circumstances

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  • To: Article of Faith
    May 1, 2009 1:31 a.m.

    As someone who came to this great country as a legal immigrant who spent years waiting, saving and learning English, I totally agree with you. As an LDS convert, it was my first priority to obey the law even if that made it lot harder, much more expensive and took much longer to get here (9 years waiting). Once here, I never had to fear the authorities or worry about my status and yes I am now a citizen and know that that process is also time-consuming and expensive but "RIGHT" and lawful.

    To: LDS and Immigration:
    So we should just ignore the current immigration laws because we don't like them. I'm not into political correctness, come here without proper documentation an you are here illegally.

  • LDS & immigration
    April 30, 2009 11:06 a.m.

    I'm particularly awed by LDS members when they speak of "illegals." First of all- "legal" vs "illegal" are legal terms. In order to be declared one or the other you must go to court. The correct words to use are "documented" or "undocumented." As members of the Church your knowledge on immigration is all MEDIA. Do you think the young couple Joseph, Mary and their infant son Jesus had papers to flee into Egypt when the angel warned them to go? Oh, I see, that was different-that was personal revelation-right? What about the thousands of saints who crossed the plains into the Mexican Territory of Utah in 1846? That was different too, right, they were fleeing for their lives. Before you cast the first stone, do some research. Do you know exactly what it takes to file for LEGAL RESIDENCE in the U.S.A? As of the late 1970's and 1990's things changed dramatically with waiting times averaging 8 to 12 yrs. for legal residence. Not many financial, political and war refugees can afford to wait that long. Just as Joseph and Mary and the Pioneers could not wait.

  • from Canada
    April 29, 2009 11:44 a.m.

    Being a Latino, and a Canadian, and having lived the States, let me just say I'm glad there are people who love our presence there and those who dont. Life would not have been the same if I had not met both types of people. I learned to take the bitter with the sweet and to value hard work and sacrifice. Please remember were used to being put down, and at times disliked; just take a look at how we as a people were conquered by outside rulers. But in contrast, look hundreds of years later to what we received in return: a better education, greater access to the world, and understanding of God, and recognition as a loving and family oriented culture. Heck, I even got to learn four languages. God be thanked that we had opposition, because just like a kite we were propelled upwards by opposing winds.

  • Re: Article of faith
    April 28, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    It is that so? Do we suppose to obey the law of just America or the law of any country?
    Did you vote for President Bush?
    Do you support America going to other countries stepping over their own law?
    Maybe you can consider if that as illegal as Hispanic people coming with out legal papers to your country?
    Illegal immigrants do not come to your country to make the war, to destroy, nor to dictate how you should live, instead they work hard and help to build your country.
    Are you a native American? Or some where in your history your ancestors also came to America looking for a new and better life, looking for having their rights respected?
    If at those times, it was required to have a Visa, do you think they would give it up because of that or they would also come as illegal?
    I wish you could understand what is about.

  • 2 Jerry H.
    April 27, 2009 11:19 p.m.

    Actually Jerry, the Spanish speaking people WILL ALWAYS have a BIG advantage in an English speaking country. THEY WILL SPEAK AT LEAST 2 LANGUAGES.

  • Illegal?
    April 27, 2009 9:24 p.m.

    Under the current law, being in this country as an illegal alien is a civil offense that is the equivalent of violating the speed limit. Who hasn't done that? Go ahead, throw the first stone. If my kid was bleeding to death you bet I would be speeding to get him to the hospital. All of the hispanics I know did just that by coming here, to protect their kids from violence, drugs and poverty in countries that couldn't provide safety. Besides, now that Obama is in office, they'll probably all get amnesty anyway... ;)

  • Trout
    April 27, 2009 7:42 p.m.

    Why is she crying.

  • RE: Less Murky
    April 27, 2009 6:24 p.m.

    In this context,when Christian talk about faith we mean saving faith,or salvation,not faith in faith.
    Christian worship the Triune God not,(Gods)

  • Re: Jerry H.
    April 27, 2009 5:29 p.m.

    Jerry, quit your racist and stereotypical rant. My wife is Latino and she has just as much consideration in employment, health care, and other things in our country. Anyone who discriminates her because she is Latino or speaks Spanish is not only losing her additional bilingual skills for their company--they should be ashamed of themselves for not seeing past the color of her skin or the words she speaks.

    She came her 100% legally too. We don't need people like you implying on a public forum that everyone who is Latino who comes here is illegal. If you are going to make assumptions, go elsewhere.

  • No matter what culture.....
    April 27, 2009 5:08 p.m.

    women in the church have always been the backbone. I applaud these sisters for their faithfulness and example.

    --male church member

  • Jerry H.
    April 27, 2009 4:43 p.m.

    Unfortunatly, spanish speakers will always be at a disadvantage in an english speaking country. Also, if you are illegal, breaking the laws of this country is not laudable. Honersty in your dealings is always the best practice.

  • to: Murky
    April 27, 2009 4:01 p.m.

    Here are some things in which to have faith:
    - when you go to sleep at night, you will wake up in the morning
    - when you work for two weeks, your employer will pay, at the end of the two weeks, for your work
    - when you post, someone will read what you wrote
    - when you read scriptures, you will gain some strength and humililty from them
    - when a religious person says that faith is important, take it at its face value

  • Less Murky
    April 27, 2009 3:42 p.m.

    Yes, Murky. Faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ - the one who was resurrected and showed himself is said body to His friends. The Bible never refers to Him shedding His body again. It never tells of an additional death nor of another tomb or burial place. This same Jesus will return again, with His glorified physical body. It's funny how so many churches invent the story that He is a personage ONLY of spirit, when the Bible declares no such change in his phisicality. Such a change would be important enough to be written, yet it is not. And that's because He did not change again. His resurrection was essential, meaningful, and eternal. Thanks for making this clear, Murky. We have faith in the Jesus Christ of the Bible.

  • Articles of Faith
    April 27, 2009 3:02 p.m.

    I hope the LDS Church is also encouraging all it's Spanish speaking members to adhere to the Articles of Faith and uphold the law. That means that illegal aliens, those who violated our laws, who are members of the LDS Church should return to their country of origin, Spanish speaking or any other language and return legally, thus upholding the law and being true to the Faith.

  • Murky
    April 27, 2009 1:44 p.m.

    Faith in what? The Church, Joseph Smith? Faith is only as good as the object you place it in. If it is the Jesus of the Bible(God incarnate) right on.

  • Grandma
    April 27, 2009 9:09 a.m.

    It is great to have two members of the General R.S. who speak Spanish. I'm glad Sister Beck commented on the challenges of unity among Spanish-speaking people. Anglos mistakenly believe that all Spanish speaking people share the same culture. Not so. The culture of the Church can make a difference.

    It IS the time for Spanish-speaking peoples!