Lost Memo: Utah Jazz must deal with Okur still missing time

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  • todd to above
    April 21, 2009 10:00 p.m.

    summary: Sloan Stinks

  • It definetly would not hurt
    April 21, 2009 9:54 p.m.

    to play Fez and Koufos.

    Sloan and management know they are going to lose playing Collins. They just don't want to admit that that Jazz are an 8th seed because they did not develop/trade for the talent that they needed.

    There are times when Price should play also. He really helped last year.

    The only hope the Jazz have is to put the best combinations on the floor, for as much of the time as they can. Fez can contribute in 10 minute spurts. Koufos can play better than Collins and probably better than Boozer or Millsap at C.

    Sloan is a good Coach but he also does some things that insure extra losses.

    He is like Boozer you put up with the bad to get the good.

    Sloan is not quite good enough. Or at least he is not good enough given the players the Jazz management give him to work with.

    Sloan has to have talented veterans to run his system. The Jazz can't afford enough of them. Sloan won't play younger players even it they would help the Jazz win. Koufos out played Collins last fall. We all saw it.

  • todd to chuck and dapper
    April 21, 2009 9:05 p.m.

    really> what is the score? How is Collins doing? Chuck you might take a "badge of honor" something might be better suited. I have followed SLoan a lot longer than 99 percent of you back to playing. COntrary to all of you "it is not personal" "it is 2009 business"

  • Dapper2k
    April 21, 2009 8:22 p.m.

    To todd "Hater"

    To Chuck I respect your reaction and explanation well done.

    Brewer and Ak have got to help the Jazz tonight. Both of their guys aren't even defending them and they aren't holding their own on the defensive end. W/o Memo we need Brewer and AK to step up and contribute on both ends of the court.

    I also hope to see the Jazz defend the rim better and not allow wide open layups. It's the playoffs time to defend the paint. Especially players like Miles, Harpting etc that arent' getting big minutes and can use all their fouls. You can't have D-will being your enforcer too.

  • Chuck Nunn
    April 21, 2009 6:25 p.m.

    That's a badge of honor for me, todd. ;)

  • todd to chuck
    April 21, 2009 3:39 p.m.


  • Hey you Sloan Detractors!
    April 21, 2009 3:26 p.m.

    Jerry Sloan is a magician with the talent at his disposal. I know it took him 20 years, but now he is in the Hall of Fame. So let's kindly get off his case and talk about the things that need to get done to make this team competitive. The sheer length of the season makes it difficult on a team like the Jazz that has vulnerable players and players who are injury prone. The team needs all of its components to be successful, which it hasn't for extended periods this season. I know many of the other teams have had the same experienc but most of the other playoff teams have superior individual players. The Jazz work as a unit and need everyones undivided attention.

    Go Jazz!!!!

  • Hey Zero Defense and Hammy
    April 21, 2009 3:20 p.m.

    Consider the the fact that Boozer looks like a Matador because the guy that was supposed to guard the player out front has lost him and expects Boozer who is also assigned someone to pick him up. The result is if Boozer does this he is not guarding his man and he gets a layup or Boozer gets a silly foul. And hey, Hammy....it takes a ham to launch the 3's my man. That's the point may friend. Okur needs his "hammy" to operate. And if he doesn't have full mobility he would be worthless on defense. Do I need to say more? You need your hammy to play in the league.

  • Zero Defense
    April 21, 2009 12:48 p.m.

    Hammy when you say zero defense you must be talking about that matador of all matadors the Booze. It was a disgrace watching his effort in game one. Okur has done very well against the big bodies of the West in the play-off's the last two years. He is not quick enough to guard the real athletes but the West has more big boys at the C then athletic ones.

  • "Fonzie"
    April 21, 2009 12:46 p.m.

    Utah Jazz all way tonite !!!, we are going to win no matter what, watch out Kobe and rest of Fakers, I know deep inside my heart that Thursday series will be 1-1, i played basket my entire life and I know well the game, im resting these 2 days because my partner is at Disneyland, :>( but he will be back on Thurday :>), also tio Mike and Dr. Jake told me my Utah Jazz will prevail tonite, GO JAZZ !!!!!!!!
    P.D.: Sorry Jeff Young and Duran Ball, by the way the Spurs wont pass the firsdt round, mark my words !

    Fonzie Lopez

  • Hammy
    April 21, 2009 12:31 p.m.

    It doesn't require a hamstring to camp out behind the line and launch treys, then play zero defense. Why couldn't Okur continue to do what he's done all season without noticing any difference?

  • Chuck Nunn
    April 21, 2009 12:10 p.m.

    I'm not rooting for the Lakers now, either. And I can't understand how you interpreted my post as a negative one. I just believe that instead of going nearly 14 minutes without a center on the court instead of putting in Fesenko was maybe not the best move Sloan could have made. But in the second half when the guys all fought harder in the paint and executed Sloan's offense, they had more success. Sloan's a basketball genius, but he's not infallible, and I think there's nothing wrong with pointing out a mistake, especially when I can do it without calling for him to be fired. There are few men who could do what he's done with a small market franchise to enjoy the success that the Jazz have, and nobody could have done it better. But things couldn't have gone worse with Fesenko in there during that 14 minute stretch, and they might have actually gone better. But now that the Jazz know they can play hard inside against the Lakers, expect the games to get a lot closer.

    Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!

  • Soko
    April 21, 2009 12:07 p.m.

    Somebody tell that Euro Softy to get off his bum and play.

  • JAZZ FaNaTiC
    April 21, 2009 11:59 a.m.

    the jazz can do it but will they? we need everyone involved 100% our bench went from one of the best to not even talked about lets get nasty and get a win in LA if we cant keep it together the jazz really need to look at boozers contract and question his heart here in UT personally i love booz but i love my jazz more come on jazz lets do this we know u can but again will u?

  • magnus
    April 21, 2009 11:30 a.m.

    @ send a message

    That is a bad idea. You just don't do that to players like Kobe or Lebron or Jordan. Because they almost always send a message back, and it's usually on the scoreboard.

    If you'll notice, all of the great "message" fouls were against guys that couldn't step up and totally destroy them.

    Mchale didn't clothesline Magic, he clotheslined Rambis.

    Webber didn't takeout Malone, he went after Stockton.

    It would be nice if somebody on the Jazz was tough enough to send a message, and even nicer if the resto of the team was tough enough to back it up, but I'm afraid that right now the Jazz trying to "send a message" would be alot like Somali Pirates vowing revenge on the United States, it's just not a good idea.

  • Calgary Jazz
    April 21, 2009 10:58 a.m.

    Time after time you see good coaches playing some rookies or unknowns and making difference in playoffs ( Powe in last year finals, Brown in game one..etc,etc ) our beloved Jerry on the other hand goes with "proven" flopping stiff instead of big and physical shot blockers...please, take out the brooms and sweep Jerry back to his farm where he belongs.

  • Andrew
    April 21, 2009 10:07 a.m.

    Okur says he is 65 to 70% this is the playoffs, you need to play.

  • Oh Chuckster
    April 21, 2009 9:53 a.m.

    How easy it is to criticize a team when they are down. It wasn't so long ago that the Jazz swept the Lakers for a couple of years in a row. I know you weren't rooting for the Lakers then. Keep your thoughts to yourself if you want to be that negative. Go Jazz

  • send a message
    April 21, 2009 9:26 a.m.

    the Jazz had their chance to send a message the first minutes of the game. We all remember the hard foul webber put on stockton several years ago. Thats what the Jazz should have done with Kobe ....put him to the ground hard in the first few minutes. Would it of changed the outcome....probably not, but it would have been fun to see and would have set the tempo a little higher. Collins can't do anything......hey, I have an idea....use all 6 fouls (and hard ones) on Kobe when he drives the lane.

  • Where'sBrewer?
    April 21, 2009 9:11 a.m.

    You people rag on alot of these players but the one I think has let us down on both ends of the court is Brewer. He isn't even making his foul shots, let alone open perimeter ones. His defense is way, way overated. I'm not too sure that if I was in charge he would be in the future plans. This bunch is just not very athletic quite frankly.

  • Chuckster
    April 21, 2009 6:48 a.m.

    It doeasn't matter if Okur is healthy...Jazz are dead meat!!! They will lose this series if they don't improve on their defense and to use fouls smartly when it is needed.

  • Chuckster
    April 21, 2009 6:39 a.m.

    It really doesn't matter if Okur is healthy...the Jazz are dead meat!!! Jazz will lose this series, what they need to do is improve on their 'D'.

  • Chuck Nunn
    April 21, 2009 12:29 a.m.

    Collins is a smart guy, and his free throw shooting was pretty good in the second half in helping the Jazz to stay close. But Sloan needs to put in Fesenko for stretches of the game to help wear the Laker bigs down a bit, Koufos too. The Jazz went from four points down to 16 points down when they went centerless at the end of the first and start of the second quarters. The three of those guys together with Boozer and Millsap can make a difference throughout the game against Gasol, Bynum and Odom. It was good to see Boozer show some life and see the guys fight back in the paint in the second half Sunday. Hopefully Memo can come back in time for Game 3 in SLC.

    Peace out from the Jazz Oracle.