Im pretty sure i saw that Duchesne beat Rowland Hall? I think that 1-A can
true that escalante would get destroyed bad by 2-A champs wow there not even on
the same map its a whole new world out of 1-A dont even try to make an arguement
about escalante beating the north summit braves or south sevier rams that would
be a joke. your old competition would make you look bad from south sevier!
oh ya Escalante played two 2-A teams this year parowan and richfield. seriously
they were both the lower teams in 2-A you cant say escalante was good this year.
ya for 1-A! come on richfield beat them and they choked at state don't compare
escalante with 2-A teams seriously they would get destroyed by 90 percent of
them north summit, south sevier, rowland hall, layton christian, manti, south
summit, san juan ya if you would have played any of those teams you would have
lost by 20+ points get real.
Region 15 like we all said it is hard to be in a region where you may travel 1
1/2 tops for any of your region games. Region 16 & 18 have to travel for hours.
oh yeah it is easy to win a championship on a court that let's 26 other teams
don't get to play on in the 1A preview. So your kids are used to everything.
Come on up to a real tournament in Region 16,17. The only reason that your
region has one so many times is all they do is play bball. NO region 15 school
except Panguitch is consistantly good in baseball. So what ever just keep
enjoying your nice cozy beds while other people are trying to get better and
take state over you. Also Tabiona will be an elite team next year and Region 20
will once be overated like every in 09-10. So get over yourselves.It is easy to
lose by 20 when you have homecooking referees doing your games? Everyone knows
how it works down their in Southern Utah.Other then the last 5 years how many
titles has Escalante won?
haha why would they be scared to play those teams on there home courts? they
played them at state.. ha maybe those teams are scared to play at there home
courts. TABBY played at Escalantes home court and hmm there coach got kicked out
of the game and escalante killed them by i think more than 20 points? and had
there 3rd string in there by the end of the game weird how escalante was just
soooo scared huh but they won by double digits WEIRD!
Once again, a region 15 team that didn't even make the state tournament went TO
your region champion's HOME court, and won. Why aren't you people interested in
Region 15 is just scared to play rich tabby and duchesne at home... they know
they will lose
Why are some of you ripping the Region 15 teams? You didn't play us either you
can schedule it and Region 15 teams will play you! I think a little jealousy is
going on here cause Region 15 is a pretty dominating region. Fact is a Region 15
team won it this year and last year? So why are you saying Region 16 is so much
better? Escalante will play any team that wants to play them. We played Tabiona
and if I recall DOMINATED them. They beat Rich so do your talking next season
Escalante Won face it get over it and move on! GOOD JOB REGION 15 BOYS!
cody shilling from minnesota has 3400 points in high school career
like 12 for R15 and 5 or 6 for R16. Girls is a bigger discrepancy in favor of
How many state titles have Region 15 teams won altoghether? How many have 16
You must be from region 15. You brushed over Andersen and Browning like they did
well with their teams and that was about it. Norris is a great kid and great
player but..., he did not lead the state as the best scorer. He did in numbers
only because they would not take him out of the cake games when they scored over
a hundred a couple of times and even in the tournament when they were playing
weak teams. Not the kids fault, just his coaches. Good player and good kid. Just
not the best scorer in the state in 1A. Andersen is not a great ball player
because he is a good team leader. That is not his forte. He just is a great ball
player and a great kid. To say that region 15 has the best scorer and the best
ball handler etc..could be a little assumptive. Tabiona, Duchesne, and Rich have
just as talented of players.
I think the list is pretty good for the most part, but the kids I feel bad for
are the ones from region 17, they only have two players from their region on any
of the teams, and only half of their coaches even submitted all state ballots.
Christian Heritage, ICS, and Mt. Vernon didn't even bother to send in votes.
What doesn't make sense is that Christian Heritage had a decent ball player in
Metzger this year and the first person left off the list according to the voting
results is that Khokhar kid from SL Lutheran who averaged 18 ppg in their two
games at the state tournament vs. Montecello and Escalante. Coaches should
definitely be able to take a couple of minutes to send in an allstate ballot!
thats what i mean why doesn't 1A just have a 1 loss and your done tournament. it
could be a shorter tournament, would be more competive then it currently is.LET
SEE SOME REGION 15 TEAM PLAY IN OGDEN,RANDOPLH,SALT LAKE,PROVO.THEY WONT PLAY
UNLESS IT IS IN RICHFIELD IN THE REGION 15 INVITATIONAL OR I MEAN THE 1A PREVIEW
MY BAD.REGION 16 WILL HAVE THE BEST 2 TEAMS IN THE STATE NEXT YEAR AND 3RD BEST
WILL BE PIUTE & PANGUITCH. I THINK IT IS FUNNY HOW THESE REGION 15 PEOPLE GET SO
DEFENSIVE ABOUT NOT LEAVING THEIR HOME GYMS. OH YEAH IT WONT MATTER CUZ NEXT
YEAR YOU WILL BE REGION 20,SO WHATEVER.GOOD LUCK ANNOYMOUS LIVING YOUR HIGH
SCHOOL DREAMS THROUGH THESE KIDS.
It's funny how this character says Region 15 teams won't travel north, then when
called out, says places like Tabiona and Duchesne are east, not north. What
northern schools is this guy talking about then? Yes, not much
thought going on inside there.
i wish more people would think before they get all worked up like our friend who
continues to demand Reg 15 should travel. They travel up north as much as Reg
16 travels down south. That's how it works they switch years, it seems pretty
sumple to understand that if up north schools want the games to schedule them.
Also as far as teams choking isn't that what happens with play in games and the
first day of state to even play on the winners side of the state tourney, then
everyday after that to get to the championship? (eg wayne county) Your
thoughts, obviously have not been fully processed.
Wayne and duchesne have played each other for the last four years!
hey i didnt know that region 15 was the big east,acc of 1A BASKETBALL where they
could demand people to come play them on their court.DO THEY GIVE GUARNTEED
MONEY WITH THOSE GAMES LIKE THOSE CONFERENCES DO?I know region 15 thinks they
are king but their are 1A teams that are in utah,salt lake,weber counties.Also
escalante did play a 2A&3A schools this year.Escalante made the plays when they
had to so they could win. I think 1A should have a round robin like 2A does,see
how many good teams would choke on the one & deal.THEN WE COULD REALLY MAKE 1A
TOUNAMENT THE BEST IN THE STATE.THE WENDOVER KID DID DESERVE ALL-STATE.NO MATTER
HOW MANY SHOT HE TAKES A GAME.NOT ANY BBALL PLAYER MAKES EVERYSHOT.TO BE HONEST
I WOULD OF LOVED TO SEE SO. SEVIER & ESCALANTE PLAY THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BBALL
Coaches don't need to justify their voting, but I want to make some comments.
While there are a lot of good players, coaches do recognize the top players
since we are the ones creating plays to defend against them. Also, it is a no
brainer that we pay attention to players who get their teams to state. Almost
anyone can score against weak teams, so we also take into account other factors.
Kevin Griffin is tough and was key in Escalante's success and could have been
named the MVP with Tim. Beau Browning and Caden Anderson are both great team
leaders of top ranked teams and proved themselves at state. Matt Hoyt is the
best ball handler in the state and probably the leader in assists. Trac Norris
was the 1A top scorer on a ranked team that only had one loss at state. The
next few players listed in the voting are all top players on their teams, but
Tyson Westwood stood out at the state tournaments the past two years. Each one
of these first team players deserve this recognition for their years of hard
work and dedication to the game of basketball. Congratulations!
it's easy to average 18 ppg when you take 25 shot a game and don't get the other
team mates involved
Escalante has had some of the best teams to ever go through 1A the last 5 years.
Very few state champs ever have the win loss records they do and they are
always playing a bunch of 2A teams.
What a joke are you people really getting worked up because Reg. 15 doesn't
travel up north all the time to play you guys? Why would they when your not
traveling down south. Also they just wait til state and beat you then. It more
fun that way!!
they should travel and play a couple 16 teams Rich, Tabby, and Duchesne are
tough and good competition... why do you think Escalante takes turns playing
Tabby?? good competition.......
Why should they travel???? It appears that most of the competition is east and
south of Richfield anyways. So why travel????? I am sure they would welcome you
to travel to their gym. Oh yeah didn't Escalante play a couple of 5A schools a
year or two ago? Most of the big schools won't play little schools, its a no win
situation. If they win it's no big deal and if they lose they lost to a little
school. Looks like the teams to give Escalante the most trouble are south or
east or richfield. If you want to play region 15 you gotta be willing to travel
You need to look at a map then. You said R15 teams would not travel north of
Richfield, and you were wrong.
People, there are only so many spots available on the all-state lists! EVERY
team has a case for someone who was left off the list, that's just how it goes.
It is impossible to get everyone on there who deserves it, and if we increase
the size of the lists, it waters down the honor. Often times, coaches have to
go on the intangibles in selecting nominations. In other words we don't just
use scoring as a criteria for nominations. Also, strenghth of schedule and
strenght of region has to play a factor. Performance in the state tournament is
another huge factor and those teams who don't make the field are at a
disadvantage when it comes to all-state selections. This is not a perfect
society and it is not a perfect system, but it's the best we have. I think
every year the coaches do get it as close to correct as we can, given the number
of spots available on the lists.
Well you guys can cry all you want but Escalante had three boys that didn't make
it that would drop 15 to 20 points a game on any other team but they knew what
their role was and they took it! Thats what made Escalante so good!
What I want to know is how Victor DeSantiago in wendover can be the fourth
leading scorer in the state and not make that list anywhere. That's just awful.
I know his team didn't make it all the way to the state tournament, but
something is wrong when a kid scores over 18 points a game and doesn't make any
of the all state teams.
So I guess the coaches are the selection committee for ths all state thing from
what I hear. They only acknowledged one of Rich High School's five very talented
Juniors. I guess we will see how that works out for them. I do not think they
are right about this but I guess we shall see next year. Whitehorse had two
players on the second team? Panguitch 3 and the Rebels handled the Bobcats
twice. Do you really think Leach is better than the other four juniors for Rich?
Maybe they are right but I do not think Leach would even start for Rich next
year if he was playing with them. It is nice that not too many people are giving
Rich a lot of credit after loosing to Valley. I think they are saying thek
Rebels have no heart, no drive, do not pay as a team. Is that true Rebels? I do
not think so but i guess we shall see. Way to go Calder for getting in the
Honorable Mention as our super sophomore.
Hey bud last time I checked those schools are east of Richfield not North. I
find it funny that Region 15 will go to Vegas & St. George to play in summer
leagues but I didn't see any Region 17 or 18 or 19 teams on their
schedule.Anything outside of traveling 2 hours for these teams for Region is too
much. Try and go play some road games that are not at the Sevier Valley Center
preseason tournament. Go play at Rich or at S.L. Luthern, that new school
Liahona that will be in 1a next year.I hope the 2nd team All-Staters throttle on
1st teamers because I think some of them are overated yes I did say overated.
But Hughes did deserve the MVP.
I don't think that anyone is going to take down the 1st teamers. We will see
this weekend since all of the first teamers are on a team! Should be a blowout!
"LET'S FACE IT THE REGION 15 WON'T GO PLAY ANYONE NORTH OF RICHFIELD UNLESS IT
IS THE STATE PLAY-IN GAME."The FACTS say otherwise. Off the top of
my head I know Escalante takes turns going to Tabiona and Wayne went to Duchesne
in December. And why the caps?
EVERY ONE HAD TALENT.ALSO WE WILL SEE IF ESCALANTE CAN KEEP PLAYING 120 GAMES
OVER THE SUMMER. YOU BETTER WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IF YOUR PLAYING THAT MANY
GAMES.CROWTHER FROM MEREDIAN DESERVED A LOOK FOR ALL-STATE KID IS GOOD.
Woah, we have nothing but respect for Escalante. I don't know who the poster
was who said we'd have won for sure had the moveouts stayed, but the last time
we played Escalante with that group of guys two years ago, they beat us. In
other words, they were always the better team. McKay's gotten so much bigger
and stronger over the last two years that maybe that could have changed things,
but who's to say?What happened, happened. No need to seek to
diminish Escalante's successes with these "what could have been's". They were
always top notch.
Wastach Academy even though they had a bad record they have some young talent
that should of got some consideration. I THOUGHT ALL-STATE WAS FOR THE BEST
PLAYERS IN THE STATE, NOT WHO GOT TO STATE. LET'S FACE IT THE REGION 15 WON'T GO
PLAY ANYONE NORTH OF RICHFIELD UNLESS IT IS THE STATE PLAY-IN GAME.THEIR WAS
GOOD TEAMS AT STATE BUT THEIR WERE ALOT OF GOOD PLAYERS WHO DIDN'T GET TO STATE
EITHER. I THINK THE ALL-STATE SYSTEM SHOULD NOT BE FOR JUST STATE BUT ALL YEAR.
IF IT IS JUST FOR THE STATE TOURNAMENT THE WHY DO HIGH SCHOOL COACHES HAVE TO
CALL IN THEIR SCORES.IT POINTLESS UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ALL-STATE FOR THE
WHOLE YEAR. LOOK IN THE NEWSPAPER ONCE A WEEK DURING THE SEASON AND YOU CAN SEE
WHO IS GOOD.I KNOW OF AT LEAST 5 KIDS THAT COULD TAKE THE FIRST TEAM TO TOWN.
Escalante is the worst team to win a 1A title in 15 years. It's safe to say
Wayne would have handled them with the guys back. Last year too. And don't
come back at me with how much higher the enrollment numbers are. We actually
have a 2nd winter sport here that attracts top athletes, unlike you.
good work to the boys who made it on the lists and to the ones that didn't, not
a big deal, there have been tons of good players over the years who didn't make
the list they deserved to by the caliber of player they were because either
their teams wasn't good enough or certain coach's had a bias. not a big deal
this is supposed to just reward some kids who did well and everyone is turning
it into much more than that.
Congradulations to all the coaches and players on a fine year. Players if you
are reading these posts just realize we don't know what we are talking about and
listen to your coaches they are the ones who know whats up and spend the time.
Is this the same Duncan kid that played on the AAU team that won the Utah Summer
games last year? If so, I saw him and he's good when playing with similarly
strong players around him. He had a great tourney in Cedar. Teamwork is tops.
Escalante still would have beat wayne, their starting 5 are just as good as
those 5 and escalante still had a deeper bench, but hey they could have had 2nd
and that is better than not making it to state
IT'S NOT ABOUT SCORING.....IT'S ABOUT TEAM WORK.... IT'S ABOUT MAKING EACH YOUNG
MAN ON THE TEAM BETTER, IT'S NOT ABOUT ME,ME,ME, IT'S ABOUT US! YOU CAN BE AN
MVP, OR ALL STAR, OR EVEN AN ALL STATER, WHOOP T DO! BUT ONLY A SELECT FEW GET
TO BE STATE CHAMPS, IT IS TEAM WORK THAT MAKES STATE CHAMPS, NOT JUST ONE PERSON
SHOOTING THE BALL ALL THE TIME. HAD THE MOQUIS NOT WON STATE WE WOULD NOT BE
HAVING A BATTLE OVER THE MVP SPOT! IN MY OPINION THE MOQUIS HAVE 7 MVP'S
TIMMY,BRADY,JACE,LOGAN,KEVIN,DALTON, AND KAM. EACH DID THEIR JOB!!!!! AND DID IT
WELL. THANKS FOR A GREAT SEASON!
ya wayne would have taken state easily one of the best point guards lance plus
tyce and trevor those two are tough add seth with those guards and you have a
dang tough guard line plus mckay wow that would have been fun to watch. come on
wayne your only chance for a title and you blow it. you never put a players dad
in the program
Look at the stats on Duncan, they don't lie. He only averaged 11.6 ppg. at the
state tournament. This definitely doesn't make him the "best" player in the
tournament. He scored 10, 13, and 12 in their three games. At 6'5" I would
think he should be putting up better numbers than this.
Way to go Tim!!! You have been a lot of fun to watch for the past 4 years. We
will miss seeing you play. It's been a great ride. Thanks
I agree with the other coaches on Monticello. This team was led by Frost and
Torres. The Weatherford kid played a bigger role on this team than Duncan.
Duncan definitely plays soft and spends a lot of time away from the basket. But
remember, he is young, only a Soph. Monticello supporters need to realize that
their votes might have been affected by the team's performance at state. You
need to go deeper into the tournament and win a couple of games to get noticed.
You need to realize there are a lot of good players who did not make any of the
lists, and you should be greatful that you got 2 players on the lists. It's
really difficult to get three all-state reps. Calling him the "best player in
the 1A tourney" is definitely a little ambitious, Bballer Fan.
wayne wish you had two 2-A first team all staters? sorry you had such a bad
program cuz you could have been holding the first place trophy! sorry 6-7 kid
that dunks twice a game and blocks 4 shots a game would definatly had dominated
any post in 1-A. taft is a beast and loves the intensity wow you guys should be
sick right now
Let's all just be happy for all these awesome athletes who worked hard and
played well all season long. It's true that some players can get overlooked if
their team didn't make it to state or lost out at state...if the coaches don't
see you play it's hard for them to vote for you. Good job guys and thanks to the
Deseret News for being so awesome at covering the preps, especially 1A. Good job
Don't you think the kid might read your comments and take your opinions to
heart. He didn't make it so what a few years from now that wont mean anything
but your negative comments will stick with him...There is no perfect system to
selecting All-State athletes but the one they have does a pretty good job. These
kids think their world hangs in the balance on rather they get selected or not
don't put the extra pressure on them.
monticello had a good team, duncan is big but not that good
Speaking of Monticello, Who did they hire as the new Football Coach? anyone
Taking nothing away from the kid, who is going to get better and better, he most
definetely was not the best player on his team. I watched Monticello multiple
times and while you had to be concerned with his size, you knew he could be
defended. He has yet to fully realize what he potential he has. he needs to
work on his quickness and jumping ability, butmostly his killer instinct. He is
way soft. He will be a good player for the next two years but there's no way
Monticello has the record it has this year if he is one of the best 1A players
Sorry, Torres was the best player on a good Monticello team. To call a team that
won the region nineteen title a bad and poorly coached team is a cheap shot,
they represented themselver very well.
The 1A coaches obviously didn't think so. Maybe we should just leave all the
voting up to you, hmm?
Dallin Duncan is the best player on Monticello's team.
Duncan is not even close to the best player on his team. Anyone who watched
Monticello knows that team was dominated by guard play
I agree completely with you that at this level individual awards are given to
players on winning teams. Five above average players are a better team
(Escalante, Rich, Duchesne) than one great player with four poor players, as you
know this happens all the time at all levels. If he had the same 4 players that
Duchesne and Rich had, he would have been equal to the job! I commend these
teams for having enough good players to win, it must be tuff for Dallin to play
on a poor team. My friends in SLC saw him in an AAU tourney last fall and were
very impressed. Don't beat the kid up for being on a bad high school team it's
not his fault!
Kevin Griff was the 1A MVP of the state. he led them through the state tourney
Have you even read the other comments? Duchesne and Valley both finished in the
top three as a team, and only had one player recieve 1st through 3rd team all
state honors. So your comment that "The top 6 teams at 1A state had 5 good or
great players" is completely wrong and off the wall. Each of these teams had
good team play and defense...not a buch of show off all star award seekers.
Dallin Duncan obviously didn't shine in the eyes of the coaches because none of
them even remembered his name when they voted. Let me clue you in on how things
work. You have to win at the state tournament in order to get all-state votes.
Or else you have to be the top 2 at your position. Duncan was neither of those.
Anderson from Rich, and Browning from Duchesne were both better, and their teams
won. Come on pal everyone knows that.
I don't know what "You have got to be kidding" means to you, but he's the real
deal, and only a sophomore The fact that his team was bad and poorly coached is
not his fault. The top 6 teams at 1A state had 5 good or great players, his team
had him, and that was all!
the coaches voted and got it right not D News
yeah I agree with the duchesne fan, if you look at it Duchesne and Valley were
the 2 and 3 best teams in the state and both only had 1 player in 1-3 all state
teams. How awesome is that and congrats to the kids who believed and the
coaches who got them to believe.
You have got to be kidding me!
I watched the 1A state playoffs, and one kid not mentioned anywhere in the
DesNews articles is the 6'5" kid from Monticello, Dallin Duncan. I did not see
any of the 3 teams that he played against (Tabiona, SL Lutheran, Panguitch),
handle him at all. I thought he was the best player in the 1A tourney, and I saw
almost every team multiple times!
In the article it does say he was second in scoring however under his picture it
says led 1A in scoring. I was just making a correction.
the fact that Trac Norris scored .6 more points than Tim Hughes is simply
because when Escalante was playing their best ball toward the end of the season
there were several games where Tim did not even see the floor in the fourth
quarter. Tim had the opportunity to break the single game three point record
during their state play in game, but he only played three min in that second
half. It's not about the numbers it's about the team goal, and that is why
Escalante is holding a second straight state title.
That's what the article says that Hughes was second in scoring. Get over it,
congratulation to Tim Hughes. Everything isn't about Panguitch.
the fact that duchesne only had 1 player make 1st through third team all-state
is amazing. The des news got it right...only browning deserved the honor, but
the fact that they placed second at state with a bunch of non-flashy role
players who really werent that talented, is a testament of their ability to play
defense, and play together. this proves that a solid team will out perform the
selfish all star types every time. Remember that kids.
Can you read there is a word second there?
To 1a basketball - Where do you see anything that says otherwise? In his MVP
write-up it says that Tim Hughes was second in scoring.
Fantastic job to Shawn Dickson and Joshua John of Whitehorse!! You guys are
awesome! Good luck in all that you do!
Tim Hughes did not lead 1A in scoring, Trac Norris of Panguitch did with 20.8,
this is even what the des news had posted in the write up for the 1A MVP.