Governor's conservative credentials are questioned

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  • Huntsman is a wolf
    Feb. 14, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    in sheep's clothing. I continue to be grateful I didn't vote for the jerk.

  • Wanting more
    Feb. 12, 2009 4:13 p.m.

    Huntsman wants more than he has - hence his steady move over the years to the leftist liberal agenda. He will give up principles he knows are right for a fleeting taste of fame and glory. Very sad.

  • Not Conservative
    Feb. 12, 2009 4:08 p.m.

    Gov Huntsman is not conservative - his liberal leanings are now receiving the spotlight of scrutiny that they deserve. I predict he'll not amount to much after his term even if he is appointed by Obama to a position. Going against what's right (true conservative principles) will take him nowhere.

  • mystictravel
    Feb. 12, 2009 2:27 p.m.

    Mr. Anonymous, when you say Utahns are idiots, you have to obviously include yourself in that category, however, I disagree and think that is a very irresponsible statement

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 12, 2009 10:14 a.m.

    Only in Utah can the Governor make a bad political move by standing up for liberty and equality for all citizens.

    Only among the Utahn fascists is this possible.

  • Go Guv
    Feb. 11, 2009 7:37 p.m.

    I admire Governor Huntsman more and more for his principled stand on many issues. Go, Guv!!

  • Equal
    Feb. 11, 2009 5:49 p.m.

    Hell yeah!
    Go Governor!

  • Re: slcer
    Feb. 11, 2009 4:27 p.m.

    Hunstman never stands up for what he believes.

    He claimed he believed in vouchers but he never stood up fought for them.

    I not sure he really believes in anything,

    He just a useless rich kid given a job and does whatever seems most popular, regardless of whatever he believes, assuming he actually believes anything.

    He never ACTS like he believes in something.

    In some circles that is considered being a coward.

  • slcer
    Feb. 11, 2009 3:26 p.m.

    I hope that Governor Huntsman's example can lead other moderate Mormons to step forward and support equality and denounce public policies that discriminate against the gay community. Moderate LDS have been silent too long. Huntsman has shown himself to be a man of character who is willing to stand up for what he believes.

  • CJ
    Feb. 11, 2009 3:23 p.m.

    Conservative philosophy is about smaller government. Gay marriage/civil unions has nothing to with that philosophy, that is a moral choice. You can support smaller government and civil unions and be a conservative.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 11, 2009 3:04 p.m.

    Jon ought to cut Jr. off from the Trust Fund and make him go get a job like all the rest of us poor schlocks that he wants to lead into Socialism. Huntsman isn't even a RINO Republican any more. He's an outright Progressive/Socialist/Nazi.

    Utahns are idiots. I saw this one coming five years ago. I can truthfully say that I never voted for Huntsman and never will.

  • Bend me shape me
    Feb. 11, 2009 2:15 p.m.

    Huntsman is whatever you want him to be.
    He wants to be a politician on the national stage, and will be whatever he needs to be in order to achieve that goal.

  • lost in DC
    Feb. 11, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    I only hope that hunts/kennedy/man keeps his promise and doesn't run for a third term. I hope the repubs nominate a conservative.

  • Re: livinsandy
    Feb. 11, 2009 1:07 p.m.

    You are either funny or missing a brain. Sorry to break it to you, but if someone is registered as a Republican, they are Republican. And just because they don't agree with you on all your pet ideas, that doesn't make them not conservative. You don't get to define what conservatism is.

    And by the way, the Utah idea of calling someone a liberal democrat as the ultimate insult is downright laughable. What is that, a 5th-grade mentality?

  • LostMyVote
    Feb. 11, 2009 1:03 p.m.

    I'm not voting for Huntsman next election. Civil unions? No thanks.

  • He's doing a great job.
    Feb. 11, 2009 12:50 p.m.

    All he needs to do is get rid of the Utah Use Tax on stuff you buy on the Internet (which, yes, I pay because I'm honest).

  • Reason
    Feb. 11, 2009 12:44 p.m.

    Sadly, this headline is pretty funny, as if its never before occurred to anyone that maybe Governor Huntsman isnt as conservative as people thought. In many areas he has been very liberal for a long time. He has abandoned his core principles, and instead follows whatever political winds might give him the most popularity with a given target audience. Thats a sorry excuse for leadership. He apparently thinks that the safest group to offend is the ones who elected him in the first place.

  • Chuck Anziulewicz
    Feb. 11, 2009 12:16 p.m.

    Republican John Dougall says, "[Gov. Huntsman's] civil unions sound like gay marriage to me."

    Oh well, so much for compromise.

    Opinion polls indicate that most Americans would be agreeable to civil unions for Gay couples. Even the LDS church has suggested that civil unions would be acceptable. And as far as I'm concerned, if civil unions grant Gay couples the same legal benefits and responsibilities as marriage, I'm not going to quibble over what it's called.

    But John Dougall doesn't want to compromise. I guess it's true what Andrew Sullivan said: "The forces against marriage equality are also adamantly against civil unions for Gay people. And they have no intention of allowing Gay couples any civil recognition, because we are an emblem of sin to them."

    As law-abiding, taxpaying Gay Americans, we contribute our fair share. Will we forever be denied a place at the table?

  • livininsandy
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:34 a.m.

    Anyone who ever thought Gov Huntsman was a conservative has not been paying attention to what he does. He is neither

    (1) a republican OR
    (2) conservative

    He's really a liberal democrat.

  • RE: Conservative?
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:33 a.m.

    I think you answered your own question by stating #3, the fact that Huntsman is mormon. Mormon Utah is normally under the impression that mormon = republican and will cast their votes on the candidates religion, giving little thought to a politician's stance on the issues.

  • Steve
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:26 a.m.

    Jane is absolutely correct. We are not talking about quotas. Jane did not say that 40% of the board must be women, she said that there should be A woman on the board. I completely agree.

  • Wake up Jane
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:52 a.m.

    When you hire or replace someone you find the best person for the job. Please don't think that because a woman or man had the job before that they should be replaced by the same. This goes for gender, race, religion ... quotas are just a form of reverse descrimination.

  • Jane
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:02 a.m.

    This is outrageous. The governor refused to appoint a woman to replace the only woman on the Board of Pardons. At least 40% of the prison population is female, yet the governor refuses to appoint even one woman to the board.

  • Chuck
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:34 a.m.

    The guv is not a progressivist. He's a populist. He doesn't study the issues. He studies where people are, tests the wind, and goes that way. Nolan Karras would have been a much better conservative.

  • RINO
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:12 a.m.

    Gov Hunstman has never been a Republican.... I can't believe he didn't get challenged in this last election by a Republican. Utahn's think that just because his dad is a good staunch Republican, his kids are too... Fact is most of his kids are not. Jon Jr is a RINO, a several other of his kids are open Democrats and big Obama supporters.

  • Paul
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:10 a.m.

    Gov. Huntsman, unlike the legislature, has been able to get beyond the whole "more conservative than thou" attitude that seems to have gripped the Republican party here. His stance on civil unions, the Western Climate Initiative, and other issues, is more reflective of the public at large than of his party. I give him great credit for that. I voted for Matheson in 2004, but have been very impressed with Gov. Huntsman in his first term and voted for him in 2008. No doubt to the the hard right in the Utah Republican Party, as evidenced by some of the posts here, my support will be further evidence of how far Gov. Huntsman has strayed off the reservation. But I was joined by 78% of the voters in my decision. If, as No Surprise claims, the "true conservatives" in the state choose one of their own in the future, I suspect they will be sorely disappointed in the outcome, since the rest of us won't vote for one. And I can only hope that when Gov. Huntsman finishes his term he moves on to national office, regardless of pary affiliation. We desparately need his approach at that level.

  • sob
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:09 a.m.

    my heck, utah is full of fruit cakes,
    thank god for moderation in the pursuit of good government, a true virtue, rather then extremism in the pursuit of the radical few, a vice.

  • Conservative?
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:00 a.m.

    Please explain, Bob, the broad Republican/conservative standard by which we judge any politican as being conservative. Help us understand how anyone would regard Jr as being conservative. Maybe he is to you and a few other leftists, but at least a few of us know what he really is--a liberal.

    Utahns voted for him for three reasons: Huntsman family name (number one reason), Republican party affiliation (number 2), and Mormon (reason 3).

  • conservative enough
    Feb. 11, 2009 8:51 a.m.

    It's telling how the DN presents this article. Is the Governor really not conservative enough, or is the legislature overly conservative? There are two sides to every story and once again the DN gives us only one.

  • Chino Blanco
    Feb. 11, 2009 8:48 a.m.

    Some day folks will look back and realize Gov. Huntsman had the best interests of the state in mind when he declared his position on these proposals.

    The only people that stood to benefit from the recent grandstanding and nativist posturing are folks like Gayle Ruzicka, LaVar Christensen, Chris Buttars and Paul Mero ... folks who've made their careers hounding too many otherwise decent Utahns into thinking that the rest of the country is going to hell in a handbasket. It ain't. It hasn't. And plenty of us outside Utah would appreciate the opportunity to visit and spend money without feeling guilty.

    Again, thanks Gov. Huntsman. It's reassuring to know there are a few grown-ups at the wheel. If only Gayle, LaVar, Chris and Paul could get a clue and drive their little clown car over somewhere that actually misses having a three-ring circus in town.

  • JMT
    Feb. 11, 2009 6:32 a.m.

    Utah Bill. If I had to guess you are likely part of the same crowd that regularly points out the failings of the Bush Administration. I join you in this.

    A hint. John Huntsman is another neo-conservative big government type. He is a cynic to good government.

  • Utah Bill
    Feb. 11, 2009 5:29 a.m.

    Kudos to Governor Huntsman.

    Governors aren't elected to serve their party. They're elected by the people to serve the people.

    If legislators want an object lesson on just who the people support - look at the polls. Compare the people's satisfaction with Huntsman v. legislators. You'll see that the people of Utah think Huntsman is doing a great job. The legislators do not fare so well.

  • No surprise
    Feb. 11, 2009 4:01 a.m.

    No one should be surprised by this latest news. Huntsman hasn't acted like a conservative since pretending to be one to win his first election. State conservatives need to remember next time not to be blinded by monied family interest and name recognition and elect a true conservative after Jon boy moves on to the national arena, probably after officially switching party affiliation.