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TO ALL who posted:Ok people need to read my comments on 11:35 a.m. Dec.
30, 2008 . That RE. Jeff R was a response about my article and was about how bad
guns were. I never made that comment. I am the biggest gun advocate you will
meet. Please dont misunderstand me and my views. That post was not me, hence the
title "RE: Jeff R". I am for concealed weapons permits and open carry. MOLON
LABE! Please read me comment on 11:35 a.m. Dec. 30, 2008 and see my real views
and what i said, not some gun hating idiot that is paraniod of gun carriers.
I am Not Sure why this person was lose in the 1st place. I would hope that he
would never be loose again.
Re: BRAVO, and what do you know about religion?Re: Emily, Yeah, you
are right , some of these bad boys force themselves upon these young girls and
get them pregnant, and then leave them. Then our society has the nerve to look
down on the Mother. It makes no sense to me when their are other girls who go
around sleeping with one guy after another and never get pregnant because they
are on birth control pills. We sure live in a evil and mixed up world. These
young men who killed this young woman (MOTHER) should pay the ultimate price for
what they have done to here. They have left this womans little baby without a
mom. Very sad indeed.
Tracy: You are absolutely correct, but at the same time absolutely wrong.A gun in the house is more likely to be used in the death of someone
living there, but there's much more to it than the statement explains.More than HALF of all firearm related deaths are SUICIDES. So you would think
"Get rid of guns, that will go away, right?" Wrong. It's been proven that if you
ban one method of suicide, such as firearms, it has no effect on the suicide
rate whatsoever. In Japan, where firearms are almost completely banned, they
have a higher suicide rate than the united states.The rest of the
firearms deaths are mostly pure murder, mostly by criminals, which are not going
to obey any gun control laws anyway. Very few firearms deaths are actual
accidents. Those firearms accidents that do occur in the home are almost always
the failure of safe storage or failure to follow proper firearms safety
rules.Another fact ignored is that most crimes are stopped WITHOUT
even firing a shot, and in very very few (1 in about 7000-25000 cases) does the
attacker get shot and die.In summary, your statement is bogus.
It's like on the show "Cops". If you don't want to get arrested, put on a
shirt.If you don't want to attract police attention, try to minimize the
tats on yer grill.
The guy arrested is very creepy looking. Geez, why do people disfigure
themselves like that?
Obviously the murders are to blame, but it sounded like the girl had been
threatened. And if she was a drug informant, shouldn't she have had more
Dear Tracy,Please give links to a study .. any study . that shows the
results you claim. Please try to find at least one that is not from Handgun
Control / Brady Bunch. Then read John Lott's book More Guns, Less Crime. A
little education probably won't cure your uninformed attitudes about firearms
but probably wouldn't hurt you at all.
Tracy, obviously, you only read left wing articles, books, etc. to get your
info. Try reading other info out there! The "Gun Ban" nuts only want you to read
their garbage and not be truly informed with the facts. People harm people and a
gun is only a tool that needs a PERSON to operate it and cause harm. The facts
show that crime has gone down in the states that have right to carry laws.
Google that and get the facts correct. I carry a concealed and do not have any
desire to harm someone, stranger or family, but for protection of self and
family. Law abiding citizens exercising their constituional right!
It's interesting to see how everyone is feeding on this guy. Most Hated, he
loves that all the neg comments. That will surely boost his super ego. Notice he
has a briuse under his left eye the girl was fighting for her life. So very sad.
Members of this gang should take a look at their own lives and realize this is
going to be them one day-no freedom FOREVER. Your decision my brothers and
sisters you can modify your behaviour. YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
To those that advocate carrying concealed guns, every study ever done proves
that gun owners are way more likely to use them on someone in their own house
than to protect themselves from a stranger.
Our choices define us. Cowdell has defined himself in a way that encourages us
to hate him. He has probably done this deliberately.When I look at
the picture I try to peel away the tattoos and the dour, death-row expression to
see the man underneath. He could be a strikingly handsome guy. He could brighten
people's days with a smile. Maybe this is still how God sees him.
God is more merciful than any of us can imagine.Of course for all
this nice talk I still don't want him out on the streets anytime soon. His
choices have defined him, and I believe he has earned every ounce of our
disdain. We may wish to be better than him and show mercy, but if we let him go
he's going to hurt somebody else.
Pretty horrible, you said: "The daily choices this guy, and the others are
making are horrible at best. They may act like animals, but they still aren't.
They are still, yes they are, children of God, who still loves them"
At least there is one Christen posting here, Pretty horrible. Good for you.
I am so sick and tired that every time some boy-man goes violent
that the blame is placed on the mother's doorstep. Or the upbringing. Or the
morals. Sometimes, every once in awhile, to everyone's regret and especially to
a mother's shame, a child goes bad. You do all you can do, spend all you can
spend, seek help in every corner and you still end up with a child who is
basically inherently up to no good - which leads to evil. And all you can do as
a mother is cry. Hug yourself if you are not in this club. Hug your children.
Spend your energy in empathy, don't cast it in blame.
Good point, Emily. Religion has caused enough problems in this world that we do
not need to add this horrible mess to the list of problems It has brought about.
In remark to MA where does it state this guy is a Mormon? Or served a mission?
He doesn't appear to be of any faith. I would also like to say that ALL
RELIGIONS have some persons in it that hide like they are all good. While at the
same time doing evil things. Some while professing to be in the service of God.
Let us not try, and tie a religion into this whole thing. God gave us agency,
and this thing chose to use it unwisely. Now he will have to pay. Not only here
but in the here-after....Thats what I call justice. It has also be stated that
she was doing things under cover for the police and that is what got her killed.
Regardless of the manner she lived her life. Being an unwed mother doesn't say
your a bad person, only someone who believe some jerk when he said he loved her.
I admire her for stepping up and being a MOM. Not throwing the child away like
some used shoe, or denying it the oppertunity to know the parent who loved it.
Judge ye not, lest ye be judged!!!
The daily choices this guy, and the others are making are horrible at best.
They may act like animals, but they still aren't. They are still, yes they are,
children of God, who still loves them, just not what they do. And the fact is,
"his mama" probably didn't hug him enough. Probably neglected him, or abused
him... neglect is abuse. Guys don't get this far off track being loved.
Next time this guy should pay a professional to do the tattooing. Dumb tats done
poorly make this guy a loser from the get go. But, put a suit on him and let him
plead "mental distress" and the guy will do less time than if he illegally
copies a DVD.
Tatoos on the face. Oh my................. Hi, may I date your daugther?Oh wow................. as a college professor I have to admit to not
seeing facing tatoos yet... yet..... yet... I did have a girl come to class last
semester who had been burned red by a tanning salon. That was painful to look
at.Somewhere this guy's train left the tracks. It would be a worthy
case study to ask when, where, why, how, and who was involved. It would be a
page turned for sure.
WVC needs to go. There is too many thugs/gangs like this out there waiting to
prey upon your child.The guy doing the tattoos should have just
stuck the needle in both his eyes and saved society alot of trouble.What a mess.
Sure, we need more gun control, so these veteran criminals who break the law
every day (and have no quandary about breaking the law to carry a gun) can have
a safer work environment knowing that his victims are not armed, it prevents
hostile work environments for them! Please, bring more gun control to help
people like Cowdell out and make their life of pillaging, murder and rape less
stressful and be a more satisfying and rewarding career choice. Their
productivity would skyrocket with more gun control!!
Cowdell has been a leader for the 38th Street Gang, one of the largest gangs is
SLC, for years. The gang task force declared him public enemy #1 in 2005. It
looks to me like the other two men charged in this crime were pawns for
Cowdell.When are we going to quit bickering about guns and start
doing something, anything about the SLC gang problems???
'Denial' is not just a river in Africa.
I have a conceal carry permit. I seldom carry, but I am legally able to do so if
I so choose. Conceal carry permits are recognized in many states who issue them
for a reason. It cuts the crime rate and at the same time, protects citizens
from abuse by criminals.We who may carry, are among the most trustworthy
people around and we are trained in how to handle difficult situations,
potential criminals, and firearms.
before the neighbors, friends, and family come out and say "He was such a nice
boy. We never had an ounce of trouble with him. He would never do anything to
harm someone." At some point, there were some warnings to his closest
associates - probably in his youth. The face tattoos are a pretty good
indicator of a train wreck waiting to happen as well.
Capital Punishment should be swift and final for such....too many lawyers and
too many appeals "carry" such non-humans too long. Reminds me of the Ogden
Hi-Fi" murders.....we either purge society or continue to breed such....sad,
Interloper, millions of people in this country carry a firearm daily for self
defense, and you're going to paint all people who choose to be responsible for
their own self-protection with the same brush as that idiot? From
all the news reports I can find, he didn't even have a concealed handgun
license, and was carrying it illegally anyway.99.9% of law-abiding
citizens that peacefully carry firearms for self defense don't have any problems
with the law related to their firearm. They don't carry because they're angry,
they understand they're responsible for their own protection.Stop
trying to spread fear and distrust of your fellow citizens. That's all the
anti-gun agenda pushes is fear, paranoia, and distrust. I'd trust the average
armed citizen next to me with a gun far more than someone advocating to take
mine away because they (the anti-gunner) don't have a clue what reality is.
Let's Face it...if we were to just handle things as they were handled back in
the day...an eye for a eye and so one, public stonings, cut off a hand if you
steal, etc. We may curb this over crowding in our jails. Then we can fill the
jails with debters, maybe have them work off their debt by taking the place of
these high paid politicians, get our road fixed, use them to build afforadable
house for ALL to live in and cut out the middle men who pocket all the moneis
and become rich. As for the monsters that satan worked on to
carry out his misery. The lord will handle these monsters, we can only pray for
the families of both the victims and the the offenders. The poor mothers and
fathers of All these children is where my hearts goes out. Remember, we are all
sent here with "good", therefore keep tract of your children ALWAYS...so what if
they hate you now...they'll grown up and learn it was for the best. They will
become better parents for your hard work. Love and Logic will nhelp us
all...not to forget Faith and Prayer.
I don't see how a man can do that to a woman.
You don't carry a concealed weapon due to paranoia. You carry it to protect
yourself, your family, and your friends from such garbage. With good luck and
good choices you'll hopefully never have to use it. But who knows. Weren't you
ever a Boy Scout?....Be Prepared!
I agree with Jeff. The recent story of the concealed weapons carrier in
Philadelphia who lost control in a movie theater and shot people for talking is
telling. Anyone so angry he feels he should be armed at all times has the same
kinds of psychological problems as Cowdell.
Jeff R:Thats the reason I *DO* carry a gun. It makes me safe, and
reminds me to avoid conflict.There also isn't a carry law in my
state. I break the law to save my life. Worked 3 times so far, only had to
When I saw this picture I thought "a missionary is a suspect?" After further
review I noticed his facial hair and I realized that he must be wicked. Don't
scare me like that!
I don't have car insurance for the same reason - how can you live if you think
the next car is about to crash into you? Some friends have concealed weapons,
car insurance, health insurance, and life insurance; they claim they are
prepared just in case - but of course you'll only be a victim of a bad driver or
violent criminal if you don't delude yourself into thinking it only happens to
other people. With this guy off the streets we are all safer, right?
Sorry, I meant that comment for the guy that responded to Jeff R. Oops. :D
Jeff R, Why would carrying a gun make you think that people would be out to kill
you?Do you wear your seat belt in your car because you're in a constant
state of fear that you're going to get in a crash?Do you have smoke
detectors and/or fire extinguishers in your house because you're paranoid of
fire?A firearm is just a tool. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Anti-gun groups spread the lies and deceit that try to convince you guns are
evil bringers of death, but it's the PERSON wielding the tool that gives that
intent to a firearm. My intent is to be responsible for protecting myself and
my family. The more good people that own and carry firearms, the better the
world will be. I carry a gun, wear a seatbelt, and have smoke
detectors not because I'm afraid I'll have to use them, but to be prepared in
case I do.What's a better way to live life? Thinking "It will never
happen to me" or prepared in case it does?
He looks very evil.
That's a good plan Jeff R. And if you cover your eyes, stick your fingers in
your ears and yell "La La La" really loud you can pretend that nothing bad ever
happens. Crime always happens to someone else right?
"I choose not to carry a gun because I don't want to live my life in a state of
constant fear and paranoia "Well, I choose to educate myself so I
know when I'm making a fallcious argument. Like yours for instance.It was a REALLY nice try though, but people with the ability to reason will
understand immediately why your reasoning is moronic. No surprise
then, that you don't understand.
Hmmmm, the state needs budget cuts. $60,000 a year to house an inmate. KILL THE
ONES ON DEATH ROW!!!!!!!!!!! Dont program them, or rehab them. They are never
getting out to use their rehab and Masters degrees that we hand them. Good
You can carry your concealed gun if you so desire, but that is not the moral to
this story. I choose not to carry a gun because I don't want to live my life in
a state of constant fear and paranoia that the next person I pass on the street
is out to kill me. That is no way to live life.
What in the world could have happened in his life for him to want to disfigure
himself? Undoubtedly a whole lot of hurt. What does this young man
see when he looks in the mirror?
One more person destroying the spotless reputation of face tatoos.
Sicko/friends like this picture..who needs enemy? just a question, the public
already have start throwing stones at these 3 losers, how in the world did she
make friends with these guys? and her mom is already saying that her daughter
this and that, my question was for the mom, how naieve are you? she just got our
of high school and already have a baby out of wedlock and already have a record
and these are her friends?....I am not judging but what went wrong....I have
The moral of the story is, get a concealed weapons permit, learn how to use the
stinkin' thing, and carry it with you when you go into that part of town, or any
other part of town in SLC, and WVC for that matter. People need to use their
freedoms to their advantage. As for this guy, it happens. You always get some
guy who hates authority and decieds his life work is going to be making other
peopel as miserable as him. He will get 25-life if he's lucky. As for me, a
firing squad behind the wood shed would be alright. That way we as tax payers
dont have to pay 50,000 a year to feed and give him free health care! Or some
severe manual labor like back in the old early 1900's style. We need to get our
moneys worth out of them at least. Make them not wont to go to jail.
The guy is a sick whacked out jerk. He looks down right EVIL to me. Re:-- Otis
Spurlock, I hope this guy was excommunicated from the church after his mission.
To bad you had to share your mission with him. You must have known back then
that something was evil and strange about him? I'm very sad for the
young girl who was murdered.It shouldn't happen.
Moral to the story -- if you want to take up the glamourous life of crime, don't
tattoo words on your face.
Even without his current legal issues, this guy has pretty much put himself in
the "Unemployable For Life Association," huh? How do people get so far off the
tracks? Did his momma not hug him often enough?
What a winner...hopefully he has sealed his fate in the eyes of the state (don't
let the gas chamber door hit you on the way out)
I'm sick of these young bandit, drugees having any influence on our society,
lock tjhem up in a tent city and throw their food over the fence.
The guy is an animal--worse! And the murder victim associated with him? From
the tatoos around his left eye, I would say that the police better check for
other murder victims.
Sorry, but shoot them all in the abdomen, let them lie in the snow and die. It's time to put our evil brothers out of our world, and take it back
for the righteous and good.It would be better for them to suffer and
pay in this life than the next.