Jerry Earl Johnston: 'Twilight' addresses sex in a safe way

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  • Anonymous
    Jan. 7, 2009 2:47 p.m.

    I think you described the book and the movie perfectly. Well done.

  • Bella
    Jan. 2, 2009 8:30 p.m.

    I love Twilight. It is soooo awesome. Stephenie Meyer is a genius.

  • Megan
    Dec. 20, 2008 4:13 p.m.

    I don't understand the article. Yes, in Twilight Edward and Bella don't have sex, but in Breaking Dawn Bella becomes an unwed, teenage mother. How does that change the perspective?

    Also, I agree with Toni. This book should not represent what a good relationship is! Edward constantly "watches over" Bella while she is sleeping and somehow she is flattered by this? Also, the language that is used in the story is very characteristic of language found in abusive relationships.

    Edward constantly tells Bella that he might hurt her, that he doesn't want to have to hurt her etc. He is pretty much blaming her for the abuse that she could possibly receive from him; moving all the blame from himself. I don't see anything good about this series.

  • Haven't seen it but....
    Dec. 15, 2008 8:58 p.m.

    Haven't seen the movie or read any of the books but I can say that my 40 year old wife and my 14 year old daughter have absolutely devoured ALL the books, plus the book the author posted on line that was stolen (or the portion she'd written so far) AND have seen the movie. Heck, my wife saw it twice.

    Whether it was a calculated/marketed story or just one that flowed from her heart, she's hit a freakin' home run.

  • To "TO BOB2"
    Dec. 9, 2008 9:06 a.m.

    I couldn't agree with you more. Men and women are different in some ways, ways that we wouldn't want to change. It is what makes us all so very unique.

    Recently divorced (my husband left me after admitting several affairs), and just survived cancer this year, these books gave me hope. Hope that life wasn't over for me at 27. Somewhere out there is an Edward for me. If I respect myself and love myself enough, I can find a happy ending. Ms. Meyer's books were great escapism, but I also found them to be very heart felt for me.

    The action was pulse-pounding, and the romance was out of this world...honestly, how many of you out there like myself screaming internally with delight or sighed serveral times as you read.

    It's exciting, for those of who enjoy the books, to have such an escape. *sigh*

  • To Bob2
    Dec. 8, 2008 8:13 p.m.

    There is a side of women that men will never understand. You are entitled to your opinion, but attempting to make women like everything men like and not have a place for their own feelings aside from the intellectual world and the business world is as unrealistic as trying to make all men think and feel like women.

    Is everything you read intellectually or politically stimulating? Good for you if it is. We all need some escapism.

    By the way, the Harry Potter books were clever escapistm. You may not have thought of them as high art, but they filled their own purpose. Any author who can write so a child will read a 400 page book instead of play a video game has achieved something.

  • Jake
    Dec. 8, 2008 1:10 p.m.

    The quality does matter and this is quality work.

    Hmmm...yourself, but keep it clean and quality-work.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 8, 2008 10:06 a.m.

    Reading just to be reading...hmmm

    The quality should matter.

  • Jake
    Dec. 8, 2008 7:36 a.m.

    Read the books, saw the movie...five times. Loved it. My family has enjoyed reading them and watching. It has kept me connected with my younger siblings...our age range is fairly broad (11-27).

    I appreciated Meyer's stories. I thought they were intriguing and of high morals without beating us over the head with her beliefs. As an educator, I am glad to see students reading these books. It has brought so much life and discussion into the world of literature and the world in general. I am excited for the next films and encourage Meyer's to continue writing.


  • Anonymous
    Dec. 8, 2008 1:13 a.m.

    I wouldn't have even read these books if it had not been written by an LDS author and if I hadn't heard so many raving reviews from young people at church. I was very disappointed in an LDS author writing such sexual books. While I was reading one of the books, a young girl of another faith started a conversation regarding them. Her parents were shocked that the author was LDS and did not want their children reading it. They expected and hoped for more from us.

    I didn't read Harry Potter because I didn't like the background of the author. I predicted that no good would come of it in the end, and that it would end up PG13. Then I did read Twilight because I had hope that it would be uplifting. I asked my daughter not to read it and told her why. At least if she does choose to read it, she has what I said in her head first.

  • Virtuous, lovely ...?
    Dec. 8, 2008 1:03 a.m.

    I was uncomfortable with how Stephanie Meyers said she got these ideas. I don't know how you could think these ideas came from God. Why would He want us dwelling on the intimate moments of others at all, let alone at great length?

    If there is anything virtuous...come on - what is the test we are to give our entertainment choices?

  • Midori
    Dec. 7, 2008 4:53 p.m.

    I think it's important to read the book first, then go see Twilight. The movie left out important scenes like Edward and Bella getting to know each other. There is a meadow scene, yes it's in the movie, but it is totally different in the book. Where there are personal moments when they get closer to each other. I think guys should see it too, it might make them a better boyfriend. In my opinion, Bella brings out the better Edward. Meyer's creativeness brought out a love story that girls can connect to and ladies crave for as Edward is such a gentlemen. Gentlemen? A long forgotten man of the past.

  • greenquilter
    Dec. 7, 2008 3:51 p.m.

    Amen to Bob2!! I wasn't totally comfortable with the first book and became less so with each book following. I never finihsed Breaking Dawn--it literally made me want to vomit. The idea that a healthy sexual relationship renders physical harm to a woman in any way or for any reason is sick!! I could go on and on, but long story short, had I read the books first, my daughters wouldn't have so much as cracked the covers!

  • Start to finish.
    Dec. 7, 2008 12:12 a.m.

    I have only seen a ad for this movie, but in reading some comments, I do not have a desire to see it now. We are so lulled into a tolerance of things. When my daughter was young, she and her dad watched 90210, my husband said that it always had a moral to share in the story line. One evening as I was leaving to a meeting, I heard some of the dialog and it was about sex, my daughter was about nine. It had started out with morals, but gradually started to get smutty. I have never seen or read a Harry Potter, but from my understanding, the latest book is pretty dark, again, a gradual change.

    Oh, the preview I saw of this movie, was quite erotic, and I in my old lady prudish way, felt uncomfortable with it, I refuse to become comfortable with things, kind of like being "lulled".

    Dec. 7, 2008 12:07 a.m.

    I think everyone is reading into this book series and movie way to much!! They are FICTION and if your teenager cannot discern between fiction and nonfiction then you need to be monitoring what they read in the first place. Why does everything have to be dissected and torn apart into hidden meanings and objectives? The book is what it is, so everyone should take it at face value! It's a excellent book about a vampire boy and human girl who come together and feel the void in each other's lives.

  • Some still Obsessed
    Dec. 6, 2008 11:13 p.m.

    What about the countless women who have replaced their husbands w/ twilight? I'm talking women who read the books more than a dozen times each. Just like some men are obsessed w/ football or some other too are some women obsessed w/ these books, or others like them. The fact that "Twilight" has been completely accepted by the mainstream, has somewhat allowed those spending to much time fantacizing them to have a pass.

  • Expert Opinion
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:03 p.m.

    I offer the following synopsis
    1) Twilight is fiction (It didn't really happen)
    2) Twilight is fantasy (It couldn't really happen)
    3) Authors of fiction and fantasy can create very compelling worlds that can capture our imagination in a very powerful way. Lord of the Rings captured mine. Twilight captured millions of others, especially women and girls. These stories can be great entertainment.
    4) As long as Twilight is viewed as entertainment, I don't see much harm.
    5) For many, however, this is pure mania and obsession. In this I am concerned. So much human capital wasted on obsessing about Edward and this fictional story.
    6) Those who lack the judgement and/or maturity to distinguish between real life healthy relationships and those given in ANY work of fiction should not read such books.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:29 p.m.

    I am the mother of girls and I feel that these books do have a very sensual undertone. To an adult it may be a cute romance but to impressionable youth it sends them the wrong message. I have heard of chilren as young as 10 years old who are obsessed with these books. What message is it sending to them? As parents we have the responibility to protect our children in all areas of there lives from things they are not ready for. To a young child this could very well be pornography!

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:24 p.m.

    To anonymous who says "So how many of you critizers let your children watch prime time TV??? This book and movie are nothing compared to that trash!"

    I agree that primetime TV is worse than this book and movie. For that matter, so is most daytime TV. I think the soaps are worse than the movie easily. I for one am critical of this book and movie AND I don't let my kids watch primetime. For that matter neither do I.

    (And before you think I'm too much of a prude, my kids are ages 8, 6, and 1. They are too young for the book, the movie, or the crud on TV.)

  • cedarhills
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:19 p.m.

    "Pulsing heart throb". :) Wonderful way to describe Edward who has neither pulse nor heart throb.

  • redsfan20
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:04 p.m.

    Well, the premise of vampires seems to have gone hand-in-hand with sexuality for decades now. Meyer's approach is certainly more self-restrained than the rest, so she should be commendeded for that.

    Though I'm a Twilight fan myself, certain criticism is not unjustified. The real problem with the series is not the sexual aspect, but the fact that it serves as such a tool for escapism with it's core fan base: teenage girls. For the most part, the book (or movie, for that matter) does no harm in this area. Yet, for the millions of younger girls who have become obsessed with the series, they have developed an unrealistic vision/expectation of what romantic relationships entail.

    But it's not a major problem. Meyer started out writing a book meant for young females, and it caught on for the same reason J.K. Rowling's creation has: gripping escapist fantasy proves to be a welcome break from reality. It's only inevitable that more impressionable fans may take away more than was intended.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 7:57 p.m.

    So how many of you critizers let your children watch prime time TV??? This book and movie are nothing compared to that trash! She is an excellent author, and the books and movie are excellent too; after all, they are fictional. It's a great super natural love story! Horray for Stephanie Meyer! She deserves every cent she is making!

  • David
    Dec. 6, 2008 7:44 p.m.

    All of you on the saying that this is morally "wrong" or however you put it, you are on the internet, how on earth do you not realize that this entire series is more morally straight than 99% of the content that your children have access to. Besides that, if you are thinking that everyone who reads this book absorbs all of the moral like a sponge, think again.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 7:06 p.m.

    I think there's a great difference between being a great writer and a good storyteller. Stephanie Meyer tells a good story, but she's not a great writer.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:46 p.m.

    To "to Anonymous @ 10:36 am

    Re: "Most of the world presents life on or over the edge. It is nice to see people doing what it takes to keep away from falling for a change."

    Edward and Bella did not keep away from falling. They did everything they could to push their limits. Keeping boys out of your bedroom would be some of what it takes to keep from falling.

    We have been trying to teach our youth that you should stay well away from the edge - not tempt fate.

    Maybe you could do damage control by having a good discussion about this, but it would be better yet to find a loftier way than to have your child first be "a bug on the wall" of a bedroom where two people are being very sensuous to say the least. If you wouldn't want your child to be viewing that in real life, then why would you want them to do that vicariously?

  • A Walk in the Dark
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:37 p.m.

    I'll give you this - the book was well written. Maybe how you look at the book/movie depends upon where you normally spend your reading/viewing time. For some this book might be a step up while for others it is a walk in the dark. There might be some of the reason why we differ so much in our opinions.

  • Time spent in the dark
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:35 p.m.

    I believe that the more you think about sex, the more likely you are to have sex. This is four books full of fantasy. I sure couldn't get that close to someone I was attracted to, on a bed, all night long, night after night after night...and still be a virgin. But let's do better than that - and still be virtuous. Being virtuous does not mean just refraining from the final act. It is staying well away from it. This book tempts girls to think they could do the same thing. Disobey parents, sneak around, sleep all night in your boyfriend's arms and you get to be the hero of your own life story. Not.

    Bella was weak. Let's not make excuses for Bella because she had parents that weren't perfect. (Be careful here - because neither does your daughter!)

    Edward had super-human resistance - and he would have to. I don't think there are 999 out of a thousand men who could do what he did. Night, after night, after that where you want your little girls mind to be?

  • to Anonymous @ 10:36 am
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:29 p.m.

    I suppose Christopher Robin and Pooh put children the world over in danger of false expectations of what a friend is.

    This world needs more imagination.

    To anon13 -
    Most of the world presents life on or over the edge. It is nice to see people doing what it takes to keep away from falling for a change.

  • anon13
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:09 p.m.

    to anonymous 4:34 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008
    IF PEOPLE cannot tell that THIS IS WRONG, SOMETHING is wrong. Our society has the view that anything less than intercourse is OK!!!! IT IS AMORAL AND I HAVE READ THEM ALL. Our society NO longer knows right from wrong and their relationship shows that in a subtle deeply gray area where we can talk about what is really right verses not wrong. What they do is "not wrong" but it is not right either. It is like the story of the guy who drives as close to the edge without falling off verses driving as close to the wall as possible. Falling off is a lot closer if you are ON THE EDGE.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:02 p.m.

    This book has captured my student's attention. Unfortunately they all want to read it when we have other work like Math and Science to do.

  • Fictional
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:01 p.m.

    The book and the movie seem to point out that it is not the physical relationship for edward it is his addiction to her (special blood ) that replaces the physical addiction that most males have in a real world relationship. Women are tired of that.

    They like that he is always around her all the time instead of out playing ball or video games or hunting or doing something else.

    They like the fact the he is waiting on her protecting her ect... thats what the women want now, It a fictional story.

    The love the fact that it is a total addiction on his part and that they never owe anything in the relationship

    It not anything to do with the physical side of things like a typical real world relationship, or the problems of providing a living dealing with reality of Life.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:58 p.m.

    I don't agree that this movie would have been stricken if the author weren't Mormon. I haven't seen the movie, but from what I've heard it's pretty mild compared to most movies out there. I don't think it needs to be banned or anything.

    As for the books, I don't believe in censoring the books in general. They are pretty mild as far as description goes (at least the first 3, which I've read). I believe as parents we have a right to say we don't like what our children HAVE TO read, but there are a lot worse books out there.

    (I still don't think they promote sex properly, but I wouldn't call for a general ban.)

  • RE Usual Suspects
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:51 p.m.

    One hour of movie usual equates to about hundred pages.

    So actually it more correct to say that a movie must condense a book to about 2 hundred pages.

    Still, a lot must be left out!

  • observer
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:27 p.m.

    Just what our society needs! One more thing to irritate our glands! Even if it IS "innocent"!

  • CAT
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:18 p.m.

    I will just use Twilight books as birth control for my children...funny

  • AB
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:08 p.m.

    The reality of it is in real life these characters would have had sex thats what makes it fictional...HA! You have your opinion let me have mine. I have been married twenty two years to the man of my dreams, and it sure did not take Stephanie's novels to learn about true love. I do not care who reads them, some of my best girlfriends love them, I am not judging them, they are just not for my family. Although I do think its funny that with all thats out there to watch these days, this book is pretty clean uh? NOT! I really think that these books do not help are kids refrain from sex before marriage but actually egg it on.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 4:34 p.m.

    Everyone should face the facts, just like everything else in this world no two people are going to feel the same way about ANYTHING. There are tons of people who have made fun of the stories to me, and others, but all i can tell is that they havent read the books, and the clearly should. Edward and bella are doing everything the right way. Think about it, would you rather your daughters have sex before they were married? You can say what you want about it not being good for your kids or being unrealistic, but the truth is that everyone has wanted someone to feel about them, the way edward feels about bella. At some point in your life, you know that this was true. So stop trashing the books. Stephanie is an amazing author.

  • if she wasn't
    Dec. 6, 2008 4:24 p.m.

    Mormon then this movie would have been stricken from the cinemas and the books from the shelves. My high school daughter had to read this book in her book club at school for goodness sakes!

  • AB
    Dec. 6, 2008 4:00 p.m.

    I have four daughters who I would prefer reading different material other than Twilight. The fantasy and soft porn they could find in these books are not what I would ever want for them in real life. And ya, ya , i know what people say its just a book for young girls to fantasize about no harm.Ya no harm my tail end!I

  • Dude who read the book.
    Dec. 6, 2008 3:21 p.m.

    For all you people who are poopawing the book and the movie, take a step back. First, look at what the deeper meaning is. Of course the book is about sex, but more importantly it's about not giving up what you want now for what you want most. Edward wanted to be with Bella most and because he loved her more than anything in the world he forced himself to overcome his lust and desire for her blood (or if you want to put it bluntly, sex). The message is self control. Sexual intercourse is not the ultimate show of love, instead it's sacrifice. And later, (Spoiler if you haven't read the book) if you notice, Edward doesn't "turn her" until after they are married. Seems like a pretty good analogy for sex. It's fantasy but there are lessons that we can learn from.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 2:49 p.m.

    I'm glad that people don't see this as a Mormon phenomenon (because it isn't). The author is a member of the LDS church but certainly no one in the book is. I wouldn't want the world to start thinking that the LDS church approves of their teens doing the same actions as the characters in Twilight.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 2:37 p.m.

    This has always been my problem with Twilight. It is true that they don't have premarital sex. That's a big plus. It is nice to have a book or movie that doesn't go there for a change.

    But I have to agree with Toni. He sleeps in her bed almost every night. He sneaks in. She lies to her father. They kiss and pet and let their hormones rage. I don't get how that's good.

    It supports the idea that safe sex means doing all sorts of things if you don't actually "go all the way." Yes we have those hormones and emotions. But true virtue isn't stopping before you go too far. True virtue is acknowledging that it is very hard to stop and therefore not even getting close.

    And for the record, Bella would have done more if Edward had consented. And while his hesitation might have to do with his old-fashioned upbringing (while he was still human), it's also because on a deeper level he was worried about her humanity. Not her virginity.

  • Emma
    Dec. 6, 2008 2:03 p.m.

    We are not LDS and don't practice religion; we live in Georgia. Twilight has impacted the teens including those in college and not exclusively girls (boys read and watched it for the girls). It's not a mormon phenomenon and I didn't even realize there was any LDS affiliation until recently. A quick look at the movie ticket sales should have clued you in.

  • sondarode
    Dec. 6, 2008 2:01 p.m.

    True, Edward and Bella do not have sex outside of marriage. HOWEVER. That does not negate the numerous other warped ideals presented in both book and movie. Among these are:

    1) physical and emotional abuse in relationships that is portrayed as 'okay' if the abuser didn't really mean it or is really, really sorry (more in the books than the movie),
    2) total physical and emotional dependence on one's boyfriend/girlfriend to an unhealthy degree (a la book #2),
    3) a boyfriend that will helpfully tell one's parents that one merely 'fell down the stairs'
    4) forsaking real relationships and real friendships with one's peers for the sake of love because, after all, once you've found love everyone else become unimportant

    And many more. But the fact remains that while Twilight can be applauded for keeping Edward and Bella out of bed outside wedlock, it simultaneously presents themes that any responsible reader would at least raise an eyebrow at.

    I'm not saying I'm against the books entirely. In fact I found them rather enjoyable, but the target audience are the ones who are taking these books far past a means of entertainment into something more like a way of life.

  • Reality
    Dec. 6, 2008 1:40 p.m.

    THe problem is that parents now days parents don't talk to their kinds and the media does it for them. Sure they don't have sex but the movie but she wanted to. This is just moral relativism. Sure its way better than what the world offers but still not all the way correct. Too many lines were crossed that were made to seem ok since they didn't have sex. They were alone he was older they had to lie they were sexual without much basis on other aspects of a relationship. They went exclusive after a very short period. on and on. Don't hold this on a pedestal without thinking that its just entertainment not education. The problem is that media is education for our kids unless we as parents step in.

  • Josh
    Dec. 6, 2008 1:00 p.m.

    Whatever you may think of the quality of these or Harry Potter, at least the kids are reading SOMETHING.

  • Scooter
    Dec. 6, 2008 12:58 p.m.

    As a 54 year old male I found both the book and movie excellent. I use to tease my wife and 5 daughters incessently regarding EDWARD & BELLA. I finally gave in and started reading the book and found Meyers was an extremely gifted writer. I also found the movie excellent (which I usually don't compared to books). Two thumbs up.

  • K
    Dec. 6, 2008 12:08 p.m.


    You haven't read the book series. That's the point. A popular book for young adults that does not have the main characters having sex without benefit of marriage. The fact they had that kind of self control is a welcome message today. Sure beats the myth that teens have teens have the willpower of a german shephard. He is a condom.

    Bella was constantly the parent in her relationship with her parents. They were incapable of decision making and shopping/cooking. No wonder she was interested in relationships with stronger males. No wonder she desired to change into a vampire to be less fragile and gain strength. The premise that she had to turn into something else t be with a guy bothered me until I read book four. Stephanie Meyer handled the whole story brillantly. I can't get over how talented she was in being able t bring the story together and resolve the more moral issues that were touched on.

  • Seriously?
    Dec. 6, 2008 12:08 p.m.

    The book is poorly written. And the story line is unoriginal. And the movie is laughably worse.

  • what!
    Dec. 6, 2008 11:44 a.m.

    There is no way to have sex in a safe way. UNLESS you are married to them.

  • re:toni
    Dec. 6, 2008 11:16 a.m.

    you make some very good points. Let add her making out with him on her bed.
    involved in a relationship with a much older man. obviously she was not interesed in boys her own age.
    Then this much older man takes her across state lines without her parents permission.
    At the end of the movie she is begging edward to "turn her" Is this a metaphor for taking her virginity?
    How about how she treats her father he is trying to create a relationship with her.
    How about how the "vampire" family is involved in felonous behavior constantly: pooching, possible murder, for which there is not statute of limitations.
    The movie and books are nothing but entertainment, to try and find some kind of redeeming social value in them is rediculous.
    Truth is high school girls should not be involved in one on one relationships with boys. Friendly dating is fine but nothing serious until she is older and better able to make rational decisons.
    Romance novels and movies are a bunch of fluff. It does create unrealisic expectaions for men.
    if a guy sticks around and helps out maybe you should appreciate that.

  • Kate
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:58 a.m.

    I don't think I would go as far to say "soft porn" for women. At least not the first book of the series. However, the story gets more and more intense throughout the series. I think parents should be cautioned about their teenagers reading the series. Parents need to decide if they feel it is appropriate.

    I agree that the movie provides a false perspective on healthy relationships. I left thinking that the characters relationship was extremely underdeveloped. It ended up feeling like they had nothing more than a sexual basis for their relationship. The book however, provides more understanding of why they are a good match. There is nothing wrong with a little fantasy so long as you are able to distinguish it from reality. Parents who communicate openly with their teens about matters of love and sex have no need to fear this movie or the book.

  • Arnold
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:57 a.m.

    I wouldn`t watch this movie if someone gave me a hundred dollars to do so.

  • Bob2
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:53 a.m.

    I'm glad girls are reading, but why this rot? How about a real book? First Harry Potter and now this. We are in danger of putting out the most shallow and unimaginative herd of teen girls this country has ever seen. As a teacher, I've talked to girls who devour this pablum and they seem quite unable to even say why they like it. As the country goes into a time where we will truly need brilliant, strong women, we will be left with a nation of airheads waiting for a magic horse to swoop down and fly them away to a handsome prince's crystal cavern, to live forever and sheild them from all harm.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:43 a.m.

    I enjoyed the article. I like Twilight because it shows YOU decide what you do, not your hormones or powerful human urges. That's the whole point. Not "every girl" will sleep with a guy when they carry out a relationship in that fashion. They could have, but they chose not to.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:36 a.m.

    It may not be "smut," but definitely soft porn for women.

    The problem with porn is that it provides a false perspective on healthy relationships. The relationship between Edward and Bella is fantasy and creates a false expectation in adolescent, and apparently middle-aged women, of what real healthy relationships are.

    May you all find your Edwards.

  • Toni
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:28 a.m.

    How can you consider this "safe"? He stalks her, ends up in her bedroom every night, and she lies to her father right and left.

    ANY girl that carries on a relationship with a boy in that fashion will sleep with him. Twilight sets up a false sense of security and should horrify every mother whose kid reads it.

    And girls wanting the same kind of guy that their Mom married--by that do you mean someone 200 years old?

  • natty
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:10 a.m.

    Doug! "retaking lost ground"???!!??

    are we in a war or something? secular v. mormons?

    non-mormons v. mormons?

    mormons, catholics, evangelicals v. the world?

    tell me the teams so i can decide who to root for!

  • wake up
    Dec. 6, 2008 10:00 a.m.

    Just look at Amazon's top 10 best seller's for the year and see if any Stephanie Meyer books are there. Number 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 10 are all Meyer books. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this isn't a "local Mormon phenomenon.

  • Mom in Utah
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:54 a.m.

    I loved the book and I loved the movie - and I'm not a sappy romantic - it was just plain fun and clean entertainment for a change. After seeing the movie I read the book again and liked it even more.

  • Wait-What?
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:50 a.m.

    Ok, back up. How is this a "local Mormon phenomenon"? I saw this in N.C. - it's all over the country. My daughter's friends (in Hickory, N.C.) are wild about the movie and the books. I didn't get that the characters were Mormon, nor did I hear any mention of Mormons in the movie. Did I miss something? Or is it a phenomenon because Utah people liked it? By the by, I applaud the author and the studio for daring to write and produce something with good old fashioned morals. Truly refreshing. I hope they don't change that in the sequels.

  • Anon
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:45 a.m.

    I disagree, and I've seen it. The bulk of the leading lady's role was to evince sheer horniness. There was no real morality evident in the movie. It is made crystal clear that if the main characters could have schlept together, they would have.

  • Thank you for
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:23 a.m.

    your perspective. It was refreshing, and nice to finally hear it.

  • Doug in California
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    "Anonymous" feels this is local Mormon phenomenon. Not true! This is all over the country and is huge. Folks with values and morals from lots of religious directions are happy with a fun and adventurous story that is clean. It is refreshing and a good example of "retaking lost ground" in society. Hurray for this author!

  • Usual Suspect
    Dec. 6, 2008 9:06 a.m.

    Movies have to condense a book into 100 pages or less and while doing that, they have to stand on their own and make sense to those who haven't read the book. There is always something that the reader of the book will think was left out or not developed sufficiently.

    Since I didn't read the book I had no disappointment with the movie. For me it worked fine. I enjoyed it. I thought it did a good job raising sexual tension without the usual sex. Millions upon millions in America appreciate that ability in this movie as evidenced by it's popularity. What a refreshing change. A new style of romantic genre has been discovered that I hope will be a pattern for other films to follow.

  • Hannah
    Dec. 6, 2008 7:51 a.m.

    Yes, good article. However, I disagree with one comment:

    "The comment (that Twilight is smut for women) is also a dead give away that the guy hasn't bothered to see the movie."

    Correction, such a comment is a dead give away that the guy hasn't read the *book*.

    Unfortunately the movie is so laughably bad that it's hard to take anything of value from it. It is so bad that it almost ruined the book that I found so enjoyable.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 6, 2008 7:23 a.m.

    This movie is another of those mormon 'darlings' that will be defended to the nth degree. If it were created outside of a connection to the morg, it would be approached totally different here.

  • Linda
    Dec. 6, 2008 6:32 a.m.

    I agree - the books sparked a love of reading in my teenage daughter. We now have something more to talk about and have seen the movie together twice.

  • Charlene
    Dec. 6, 2008 5:46 a.m.

    As a huge fan of Twilight, reading your article really made me love it more. I'm happy to know that the novel did not only appeal to teenagers like me but also to people of all ages as well. What you said is absolutely true. I couldn't agree with you more. Twilight isn't really just about a simple love story between two people. It's a whole lot more.

  • Wendilynn
    Dec. 6, 2008 2:13 a.m.

    Good article.

    I'll always be grateful to Twilight. Its had a positive affect on my daughter and how she should be viewing the males in her sphere of acquaintances. She's had a poor view of men ever since her Dad left us for his girlfreinds and to see an example of someone being devoted and dependable has opened her up again. She went from "I'm never getting married" to "You have to look for the right attitude to stay married eternally" and for her, that's a major change.