'South Park' creators trying 'Mormon Musical'

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  • Rob McKay
    Feb. 9, 2009 10:03 p.m.

    Mormonism is a part of American history and culture. Indeed it was birthed in America in upper-state New York and has since transplanted its American ideology to many parts of the globe, including my country of New Zealand. There is bound to be something funny about it, if not downright peculiar.

    Rob McKay
    An Anglican

  • Wow, own medicine...
    Nov. 23, 2008 7:45 p.m.

    ... I can't help but agree with Alex. If anyone needs lightening up... I'm also surprised with your language that the DesNews moderators let it pass. But hey, it's your own choice to embarrass yourself! That's the First Amendment at work!

  • South Park
    Nov. 23, 2008 1:13 p.m.


  • Alex
    Nov. 23, 2008 12:40 p.m.

    own medicine:

    Lighten up. Learn to laugh at yourself. Don't take yourself so seriously. (How does it feel?)

  • own medicine
    Nov. 23, 2008 12:16 p.m.

    Alex, that sounds exactly like what you are all doing. In your arm chairs, calling the world wicked, calling everyone who doesn't think like you WRONG, bashing the gay community, cutting people down b/c of what an old white bearded man once said. You didn't really listen to the content of the email you were quoting!

    The rest of the 6.4 billion people don't need to lighten up. We aren't freaking out over what a tiny, inconsequential group says about us. It is you who are freaking out about someone making jokes. I agree: YOU ARE NOT BEING PERSECUTED SO LIGHTEN UP! I think anyone who knows one of the throngs of accountant, business Mormons in this world would agree that pulling the sticks out of your uptight, G-rated asses would make you and those you call wicked a lot more pleasant.

  • Alex
    Nov. 22, 2008 10:20 p.m.

    Who is it that really needs to "lighten up"? Those that wince but let films such as these roll off their shoulders, or those who will harass and sue for a perceived slight? It is interesting that some in the "arm chair" that think we Mormons ought to "lighten up" have a hard time taking it themselves.

    Look, this is no skin off my nose. I have never seen an episode of South Park in my life and have no intention of doing so. I personally don't care and will lose no sleep over it. However, as I have observed, many that think that humor must ridicule and demean to be funny appear to me as insecure people trying to reassure themselves. Somehow taking a dig at somebody from the middle of a large group gives one a false sense of intellectual honesty and self-congratulation. Unfortunately, every person from that sophisticated group of the "undeceived" must eventually go home and ask themselves why they don't feel any better.

  • Bo
    Nov. 21, 2008 4:32 p.m.

    This really isn't that big of a deal, and it certainly isn't anything new. I think Trey and Matt are hilarious, but they make fun of anything and everything, especially Mormons. I have however, heard them talk about the respect they have for the Mormons they know, and the positive things they've slipped in about Mormons on South Park make me think this play won't be completely negative.

    Either way, I wouldn't care to see it myself, but thats personal. I taught a lot of Nigerians on my mission, and they have a saying in Nigeria that stuck with me:

    "When you see children throwing rocks at a tree, you know that tree must have good fruit."

  • gw
    Nov. 21, 2008 3:18 p.m.

    I find it interesting that a missionary serving in the Salt Lake City North mission, said since Pro 8 was passed in California, they have been invited in to homes by curious people to hear the " Mormon side of things", I think this will create the same kind of response. I do not mind being made fun of, unless it gets into sacred things.

  • How funny
    Nov. 21, 2008 2:40 p.m.

    (cue the southpark music) dumb.. dumb.. dumb.. dumb.. dumb..

    I can hardly wait to go see this musical. I'm hoping they'll include senator Buttars in west jordan as part of the storyline.

  • you are all scary
    Nov. 21, 2008 1:34 p.m.

    "since we aren't allowed to demean blacks ANYMORE?"

    You make me sick! Lighten up! You no more represent the spirit of Christ than the world you are reviling. You all truly believe you are better, just because you were baptised. Now its safe to spew bigotry towards other groups and be immune from criticism yourself? Why are you wasting your time riviling those who are only joking about you? Don't you have home teaching to do? Put down your banners and arms, you are not being 'persecuted' or anything. There is alot to make fun of, you have banners all over utah valley advertising movies making fun of yourselves. I think if I showed one of your lame movies to one of my friends they wouldn't think it was funny, but you do. Why waste your time being bitter over someone else choices? tend to your own garden.

    Your responses to small jokes when you have cover of anonymity gives away your true characters. Grow up, what would your leaders think? I have nothing against the church, but its self righteous members really give it a bad name.

  • Singled Out?
    Nov. 20, 2008 11:11 p.m.

    Why are "Mormons" fair game? Every other group seems to be off limits.

  • Earl
    Nov. 20, 2008 10:24 p.m.

    It should be called "One flew over the cuckoos nest."

  • The Bard knows best
    Nov. 20, 2008 8:47 p.m.

    re: But Ryan... | 10:45 a.m. Nov. 20, 2008

    >>1) As Shakespeare put it, many a truth is said in jest

  • Henry Drummond
    Nov. 20, 2008 4:54 p.m.

    We see this every year with Saturday's Voyeur. At some point there will be the conflicted Gay missionary. You would think they could come up with something a little more original.

  • anon
    Nov. 20, 2008 3:53 p.m.

    There's nothing wrong with laughing - until you are the one they are mocking and deriding and it is your precious beliefs that they are belittling.

  • RE: Jon Voigt
    Nov. 20, 2008 3:15 p.m.

    You're probably referring to September Dawn, starring Jon Voigt but produced by someone else--I forget who, don't want to give them credit/blame anyway. That was the Mountain Meadows Massacre feature film. Critics thought it was a poor effort.

    My guess is that this South Park musical play or whatever will suffer a similar fate--except for the devoted SP fans, of course, who will see it as the greatest and funniest drama ever written.

  • just laugh
    Nov. 20, 2008 2:56 p.m.

    There really is a lot of silly things we hold dear. What is wrong with laughing? We should not be paranoid at how some show in Broadway views our 'quirky' beliefs. So many elements of doctrine are hard to fathom that we only can accept them with faith; logic and reason will not solve belief. Those who worship logic and reason get a kick out of what they cannot understand because they have no belief. Great! Let them enjoy, and we should laugh with them. Does it shake your belief? Heavens no.

  • To alanincalif | 12:21
    Nov. 20, 2008 2:51 p.m.

    Re: ". . . just normal people that are attracted to the same sex . . . ."

    Isn't that kinda like the definition of abnormal?

  • Jon Voigt
    Nov. 20, 2008 2:30 p.m.

    Wasn't there an anti-mormon movie put out recently by Jon Voigt? Some type of western or something. Could the five people that saw that movie drop a post and let us know if it was any good? I am guessing the same five people will really enjoy the South Park play on broadway.

  • MormonMan
    Nov. 20, 2008 2:26 p.m.

    The show could be funny if it were Mormons making fun of themselves. Unfortunely, this is just another Nazi-like prejudice smear campaign redirected at another group of innocent people who are too small in number to adequately defend themselves.

    Apparently, since we aren't allowed to demean, belittle and talk condescendingly down to black people, women, and gays anymore, you all have had to settle for maligning a well-meaning religious group, a group, I might add, that would be among the first ones there to help you if disaster struck your community.

    Hope you enjoy your round of persecution and malice. I'm sure the Ku Klux Klan will move aside for you.

  • People shouting...
    Nov. 20, 2008 2:03 p.m.

    "Howdy neighbor!"

  • H
    Nov. 20, 2008 1:45 p.m.

    "...though the haughty may smile and the wicked revile, yet we love thy glad tidings to hear...."

  • Who cares?
    Nov. 20, 2008 1:04 p.m.

    Any public demonstrations, Broadway shows, public humiliation against mormons doesn't matter. The growth of the Church inside the USA very small compared to the work done outside the USA. We need to realize that the perception of the Church inside the USA isn't all that important because everyone already makes fun and discriminates(ask Mitt about his campaign success in the bible belt). The church is being more prosperous amoung humble countries like mexico, nicaragua, philipines islands, and especially Africa. The USA is too prideful and already thinks Mormons live in dirt road compounds with 27 wifes and homemade dresses. Just ignore these people because its only gonna get worse as the world ripens for the 2nd coming. I'm personally torn about Prop 8, but nothing makes me prouder than having a Church take a strong stand against things they oppose. Let politicians play both parties and be centristic. Let Churches take the unpopular and not politically correct stands, but right ones.

  • Satan's Army
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:56 p.m.

    Mormons, Will you please step down from your soap boxes and get with reality. This little Broadway musical will not hurt or destroy you in any way. Instead of feeling sorry for yourselves, why dont you feel sorry for the poor and homeless? Why dont you use the same financial power that was used during Prop 8 to help the homeless families in Utah? You are representing The Lords Church not your own. Grow up! You are selfish. We should be trying to help others get closer to God. We must be more open towards people of different faiths, lifestyles, and moral values as long as we can keep our own. If you believe it is the true church, whats the worry? We Mormons should not be fighting for the truth of our church.

  • MD
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:31 p.m.

    Are the creators of South Park doing this to make more money?


    It isn't rocket science to perceive their motivation.

    They've made a lot of money on their irreverence to date, and now, given the hot topic of "Mormonism and Prop 8", they're using that money to make a social statement by bashing Mormons. It's the PC thing to do now, especially in circles like Hollywood, and it's a current example of "acting with primal rage".

    The hypocrisy is staggering (but okay if you're "in the right").

    Who can't see that? Answer: People who don't WANT to see that.

  • alanincalif
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:21 p.m.

    Shoe on the other foot? Are you kidding? Gays have been made fun of ini just about every movie ever made. They are portrayed as swishy sissies that lisp when they talk and as wimpy as a person can be. It is so pervasive that most people are shocked to find out gays are just normal people that are attracted to the same sex. I am sure most of the people that are worried someone is going to laugh at the Church have laughed plenty at these sterotypes. The shoe is truly on the other foot.

  • Jody
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:11 p.m.

    I don't think it will be a South Park version of Sons of Provo

    The "gay" crowd is reaaaally mad at Mormons, I do not expect it to be very funny. I think at very least Mormons should 'boycot' their musical.

    While it is true: Every time you kick "Mormonism" you kick it upstairs; you never kick it
    downstairs. The Lord Almighty so orders it."
    - Brigham Young

    Let's not be tooooo wimpy. I mean actively defending the faith we should.

  • "lighten up"???
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:03 p.m.

    No. This is gross. If the tables were turned and this were a musical to make fun of and criticize gays your reaction and the reaction of millions of other americans would be terribly different. But it's okay with everyone to bash religion... GROSS.

  • Ken
    Nov. 20, 2008 11:56 a.m.

    Sounds like a waste of time.

  • IMAN
    Nov. 20, 2008 11:53 a.m.

    I though that the Southpark episode about the Mormons was very entertaining.

  • Jessica
    Nov. 20, 2008 11:28 a.m.

    Lighten up folks! This will be fun and entertaining. If you can't polk fun at yourselves, you really need to get a hobby.

    Our religion is filled to the brim with quirky, unique and fun things. We have a unique culture and we should embrace it.

  • But Ryan...
    Nov. 20, 2008 10:45 a.m.

    ... two things about your comment at 9:44:

    1) As Shakespeare put it, many a truth is said in jest, and

    2) Just because ONE person thinks something is funny doesn't obligate anyone else to laugh at it.

    Comedy usually dances on the line between what is and isn't socially acceptable. But sometimes the comedian hits a nerve too deep--a taboo--and can't back out. (Michael Richards losing control, remember?) Sometimes the truth hurts, too, even if said in jest.

    So you might think the South Park Mormon send-up is hilarious. That'd be your taste. But I get the idea that you wouldn't want someone else's tastes imposed on you. So you probably shouldn't be telling offended people that they have to laugh at what you see as funny, either. That only invites trouble.

    Understand why YOU think something's funny--and also understand why someone else might be offended rather than amused. (And no, the "uptight" label's a far-too-dismissive shortcut around REAL sensitivity.) Just my two cents.

  • Oh well!!
    Nov. 20, 2008 10:44 a.m.

    Who cares anyway? The righteous will only become more righteous and the wicked even more wicked. It's just all part of the plan. So just enjoy spending your time and money on your family and skip the show!

  • MD
    Nov. 20, 2008 10:41 a.m.

    More brain-washing for the lemmings ... priceless.

    "Ridicule the Mormons" moves quickly to "Hate the Mormons" and soon becomes "Banish the Mormons" and eventually morphs into "Exterminate the Mormon vermin".

    Yes, we've seen it all before. Funny how history repeats itself. Our society sure doesn't seem to be making much "progress".

  • Matt
    Nov. 20, 2008 9:58 a.m.

    Stone and Parker are going to nail this. The problem is, how many people visiting New York want to pay money to see a play that skewers a religion most don't care about when there are so many better things to do.

    I mean, how bad has their movie Orgazmo really hurt the church.

    How many people have even heard of Orgazmo.

  • Ryan
    Nov. 20, 2008 9:44 a.m.

    "Once again, bigotry, hatred and intolerance are acceptable IF it comes from the GLBT community. "

    You need to get over this idea that being made fun of is bigotry, hatred, or intolerance. It's joking around. Thats all, and in the case of South Park it happens to be funny. It's not like this play is calling on everyone to refuse service to mormons or to kill them or whatever.

    It's a joke people! Lighten up.

  • Lighten up
    Nov. 20, 2008 9:19 a.m.

    re: Eugene | 1:13 a.m. Nov. 20, 2008

    Coming from someone who is afraid to go to RES & of Utah fans is very interesting.

    Ute fans are just expressing their 1st amendment rights... aren't they?

    Seriously, there is not enough good satire these days. We need more people like Lewis Black, Carlos Mencia, Denis Leary, Colbert, Parker & Stone, Seth MacFarlane, & the brains behind the WWE, Monty Python and the Simpsons.

  • Sneaky Jimmy
    Nov. 20, 2008 9:10 a.m.

    It seems many here missed the priesthood lesson on sarcasm.

  • Hey, Um, Bryan
    Nov. 20, 2008 8:39 a.m.

    Bryan--you're on topic with South Park, right? Just making sure.

    Actors, writers, producers, and so forth tend to be creative people who make their own rules, yes. And a number of them (please don't stereotype by trashing them ALL) fit the traditional definition of "immoral," granted. Others don't--I guarantee it. But on the whole, I don't know that I'd want to live in a world that had no art, literature, drama, creativity, independent thinking, or all-around free agency. Would you?

    In the world we currently live in, the "South Parks" and "Jerry Springers" of our creative culture are the cost of enjoying "Les Miserables" and "Phantom of the Opera." Until society and human nature change for the better, the bitter comes with the sweet. Interestingly, though, the best and most meaningful of the sweet sticks around to be enjoyed by future generations. People rarely develop a lasting taste for the bitter.

    This too shall pass.

  • Bryan
    Nov. 20, 2008 7:32 a.m.

    We've all known for a long time that broadway is filled with immoral, debase people. Its been a long drop from Andrew Lloyd Weber in this homosexual filled, anti-religious, intolerant group of elitists called Broadway. The anthisis of the majority of moral, decent, honest hardworking Americans.

    This vulgar, course premise disgusts the finer nature of all decent people - all mothers and fathers who want strong families and strong society.

    Boycott this folks. Don't pay a dime and this folds faster than a flimsy Anti-prop 8 argument.

  • Tex LDS
    Nov. 20, 2008 7:31 a.m.

    Re: "You can try to "rejoice" but it's not going to make you feel better about the bigoted decisions you make."

    I hope I always stay bigoted against sin.

  • Eugene
    Nov. 20, 2008 1:13 a.m.

    Rise above it and ignore it. Why waste your time and energy on trash!

    All that bullies and persecutors want in life is a rise out of those they try to down-trod so if you take my advice above, the bullies and persecutors lose interest if there is no response.

    My first amenment right to free speech is to reserve mine for something important and worthy of speech, not waste it on garbage.

  • Bad Karma
    Nov. 20, 2008 12:52 a.m.

    A live play is not the same as a joke of a cartoon that few take seriously! Distorting and making fun of others religious beliefs for money is really funny huh? Bigotry is no better than racism! If this bad Karma does not come back on them in this life, I guarantee they will be regretting their slander and bigotry on judgement day in the next life! What goes around comes around!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 11:52 p.m.

    Once again, bigotry, hatred and intolerance are acceptable IF it comes from the GLBT community. As offending and misleading as it will be GOD will use it to his advantage to tweak people's interest and many will eventually contact a missionary to find out more about what the church REALLY believes. I agree with the poster who wondered what would happen if we made a Broadway play mocking the GLBT community? I am sure there would be more picketing, crying and moaning of homophobia and bigotry, and voices crying out for everyone to boycott the show as a sign of their solidarity against the hate machine that produced it. It doesn't bother me though because I won't be watching it, and I know that in the end we will have more people joining the church because of it!!

    The good work of the LORD will trump all evil!

  • Boiseguy
    Nov. 19, 2008 11:36 p.m.

    Lighten up people, anyone who has seen southpark knows that they don't pick out one group and "bash them" they make fun of everyone and everything. they make fun of gays, jews, christians, mormons, black people, white people, politicians, countries, animals... the list goes on.

  • Re: Most of you
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:15 p.m.

    First of all south park is a highly successful show. Look what season they are on and wont stop any time soon.

    These two make fun of everyone. If you watched any episodes you would know they mock jews. They also mock atheists, gays, catholics and everyone else frequently.

    South park actually uses some of the most cutting edge animation technology. That is why they can have shows about current issues. Unlike say simpsons that is a year behind current issues.

    trey and matt generally have nice things to say about mormons. They make fun of them a bit but they more make fun of people who are afraid of you mormons and I am guessing that will be the premise of their new musical.

    Watching half an episode or part of a movie does not mean you understand it. I used to hate south park until I watched a couple seasons and got what they were going for and loved it since. It is a pretty intellectual show if you want it to be. Studies have shown that the average comedy central viewer has more education and is generally smarter than people who watch fox news channel.

  • Melody
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:52 p.m.

    This will bomb -- just like all their other dumb stuff. Best thing to do? Not print another word about it. Oh wait -- that's what I'm doing. Oops.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:24 p.m.

    I wish Matt and Trey the best of luck with this play, although I don't think it will do very well. I just don't think people care enough about Mormons to spend money on it. But maybe I'm wrong.

  • funny
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:09 p.m.

    i will go see this before it closes. stone and parker are genius. i even liked cannibal the musical. and when they're done with LDS, i'd like to see them move on to judaism and catholicism. deconstructing religion is a beautiful thing.

  • PixelFish
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:29 p.m.

    The people who say imply that Matt and Trey have double standards and wouldn't focus on X, Y, or Z minority have obviously never watched a South Park episode. They make fun of EVERYBODY. Seriously....nobody is safe.

  • Lander
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:30 p.m.

    I probably wouldn't get too involved with this. I am LDS, and was a big South Park watcher in High School.

    I've seen that Mormon episode, and though it lampoons our doctrine and beliefs, it did come around to actually saying something good about LDS members in general--they're good people. It just didn't support what the "Mormons" believe.

    Apparently, Parker and Stone have a friend, Kyle McCollough (SP?) who is LDS. Wether he's active or not is another matter, but he's worked on South Park episodes before. He didn't leave after the Mormon episode (as far as I know), unlike Issac Hayes (who voiced Chef), who left after the Scientology episode.

    I think that this will be more parody (though crude) than ridicule, personally, though working with the people from Av. Q, and Mark Shaiman (who got rid of Scott Eckern because of Prop. 8) is a little unnerving.

    I agree that Parker and Stone will take the opportunity to make fun of anyone, and we will just be in line for hit #2. South Park has made fun of the Catholic Church numerous times, probably standing at about 5-6. Things may work out for LDS long-term.

  • Rob
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:22 p.m.


  • George
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:13 p.m.

    Sad that our nation has fallen so deep into filth.
    Every time God's people turn their backs on Christ, that nation soon falls!! Read the scriptures....
    Doesn't matter what faith you are...it is not right.

  • dandydon
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:13 p.m.

    This is just another crude attempt to undermine our church. We ought to ignore it and boycott it.

  • chicagodon
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:11 p.m.

    Like another reader wrote....ignore it. Just like the church and members should have done with gay marriage and Proposition 8.

  • What Ever!
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:59 p.m.

    I have never been a fan of South Park. The language is awful & unacceptable. But it will help the LDS church because it will perk interest & people will want to know more about it - missionary work in disguise!

  • Just ignore it.
    Nov. 19, 2008 5:51 p.m.

    The best thing the Church could do would be just to ignore it. They are only doing this to get a reaction of some kind from the Church. Condemning the production would only increase attendance.

  • To Jessica
    Nov. 19, 2008 5:47 p.m.

    Yes Jessica, a principle of the gospel (plural marriage is something to be laughed at. The way our Heavenly Father lives (plural marriage) is something to be laughed at.

    Face it, some things should NOT be laughed at IF you are a believing Mormon.

  • The Caravan Moves On!
    Nov. 19, 2008 5:05 p.m.

    "The Standard of Truth has been erected; NO unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God WILL go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated EVERY continent, visited EVERY clime, swept EVERY country, and sounded in EVERY ear, till the purposes of God SHALL be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say THE WORK IS DONE. (Joseph Smith - History of the Church 4:540)

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 5:00 p.m.

    Maybe broadway could produce the roadshow my ward did this year. It has really funny mormon humor in it, too.

  • LDS Persecuted Again?
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:57 p.m.

    The caravan will just keep moving on!...

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:30 p.m.

    How do any of you LDS-folk know anything about South Park in the first place? Aren't your priesthood leaders instructing you not to watch this type of show?

    If this is so, how can you even begin to comment on them and the nature of their humor and show?

  • South temple fx. Park
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:24 p.m.

    Carmen: time to go hometeaching.
    Kyle: what are you doing here I'm Jewish
    Eric: darn you carmen
    Kyle: you can teach me anyway
    Carmen: Kyle we can't teach you. You
    Don't believe in Jesus.
    Eric: that's the point. Let's make him a
    Carmen: ok Kyle we need I mean we have. To come
    Teach you once a month.
    Kyle: will that make me believe in Jesus.
    Carmen: only partly. Stop smoking and drinking
    And you'll believe more. And read ...

  • South Park is lame
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:19 p.m.

    Have these guys done anything of value? Didn't think so. What a waste!

  • Trash isn't amusing...
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:14 p.m.

    except when you realize how dumb it is for the creators of South Park to point fingers at anyone besides themselves, with how poor their creations are.

    The joke is on you if you pay for such trash. South Park has no entertainment value to speak of, whatsoever. That's why I don't waste my time with it. No matter who they are making fun of, it is how they are doing it (offensive language, crude material, lame storylines, and kindergarten cartoonery). Their credibility is shot. I keep hearing that the material is offensive to everyone, so tell me how that can be appealing to anyone? Makes no sense. BTW-false slander really isn't offensive, it just shows poorly on the producers of such tripe.

    When trash doesn't even know that it is trash, how can it trash on anyone else? That is what's funny? They don't even know how stupid they look and sound through their creations.


  • Bruce R.
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:13 p.m.

    The dogs will bark, but the caravan moves on.....

  • wade
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:13 p.m.

    i hope the church gets what it reeps. they should not but into other peoples life's. god loves all of us. have they heard the song jesus loves us this we know

  • awsomeron
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:01 p.m.

    Just do not go see it. I do not watch South Park. I do watch Family Guy and David Chappell. Because both are very real, in a lot of respects. I do not watch South Park nither do my kids and neither should you.

  • Jeff
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:27 p.m.

    There have been at least three major shows on Broadway that have been critical of Mormons, and all three were hits: The Girl From Utah (music by Jerome Kern), Paint Your Wagon, and Angels in America. There is a very good chance that this one will be a big hit, too.

    There are a few troubling things about this show, however.

    First, permission to ridicule a culture ought to be reserved for people inside the culture or people directly affected by it. In this case, neither applies.

    Second, the South Park people are much kinder to the LDS church in their show than they are in interviews. They grew up around Mormons in Colorado, and hated it.

    Third, Trey Parker wrote "Blame Canada" with Marc Shaiman, the composer of Hairspray who was instrumental in the ousting of Scott Eckern (the LDS artistic director forced to resign from the California Musical Theater). Shaiman believes that no money of his should benefit anyone at all who supported Prop 8.

    Fourth, staff from Avenue Q, who hate Mormons (especially because of Prop. 8), are co-producing.

    This will not be your run-of-the-mill satire of Mormons. This show is out for blood, sugar-coated or not.

  • remember
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:25 p.m.

    the Lord told us to rejoice and be exceedingly glad when we are persecuted. Sometimes it's really tough, but we must remember the reason.

    1. "for great is your reward in heaven".
    2. persecution only makes more converts.

    I read the inevitable apostasy- it painted an awful scene of blood and horror of what the early Christians went through. Despite these persecutions and murders esp. during the reign of Nero- Christianity rapidly spread.

    "Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

  • paa
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:25 p.m.

    I've never watched South Park and never intend to, because it has the same major flaw that most modern "comedy" has: They always stoop to crudity and poor taste to get cheap laughs. There seems to be a contest going to see who can stoop lower than before in examples of crudity and offensive behavior, and these guys are active & willing participants in that ongoing contest, in order to "shock" and "titillate" their audiences. Anything produced by the South Park creators is going to have the same flaws. I find these things offensive rather than funny. Give me the days of the old comedies, which relied more on wit, puns, word-play, clean satire, etc. for a good laugh. "Sophisticated" is code-word for sick, twisted, and perverted.

  • R Hunter
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:15 p.m.

    Oh you poor poor POOR persecuted Mormons. When will the the Mormon Tabernacle Choir put out a cd of the greatest whinings of the saints. Get a life. Look at your history...just who are the persecutors!! Stop the whining and incessant martyr act!!!

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:14 p.m.

    Jon B. Holbrook: What exactly is the stereotypes that a liberal has of the LDS Church?
    What does a person's political philosophy have to do with their views of the LDS Church?
    That South Park episode was a more accurate description of events than what we learn in official lessons and publications.

  • Topher
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:03 p.m.

    Am so excited, a cause worthy to believe in. Gonna keep my 10% to myself, and get myself a ticket to opening night.

  • Here we go again
    Nov. 19, 2008 3:00 p.m.

    The fact that it's a story about yet another LDS missionary that is probably going to end up in yet another non-LDS Missionary situation, makes it sound like it's going to be old hat for them.

    The Church has had a lot of press lately, and this seems to happen in cycles (Priesthood Ban, ERA, Mark Hoffman). Every ten years or so, the Church receives a lot of coverage, which sets off a pro and anti polarizing mood. In the end, it challenges members' beliefs, and makes our beliefs available to non-members, meaning it's going to be like the Five Family War in the Godfather, in that it gets rid of a lot of bad blood and brings in some good.

    To me, it appears that Mat and Trey are simply riding the coattails of the media coverage of the LDS Church's positions on gay marriage, the political campaign of Mitt Romney, September Dawn (wretch), and so and so forth.

    They do appear to have a soft spot for us Mormons, but that won't stop them from ripping us up one side and down the other. And considering what numerous other issues are happening, I don't think it will succeed

  • Jon B. Holbrook
    Nov. 19, 2008 2:52 p.m.

    I have been a fan of "South Park" in the past. I know that Trey Parker and Matt Stone have lampooned Mormons, Catholics, Evangelical Protestants, and Jews. If the "Mormon Musical" is a parody in good taste, then I won't complain.
    The creators of "South Park" did an episode about five years ago called, "All About Mormons". It was a rehash of all the negative sterotypes that liberals and some evangelical christians have about Latter-day Saints. I was very disappointed, since Matt Stone and Trey Parker are from Colorado which has a large LDS Community. I hope that their bigotry doesn't come through in the new production, but I am not holding my breath.

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 2:04 p.m.

    "The creators are actually quite intelligent, and they're also equal opportunity offenders. But when they're at their best, they're actually quite funny. And I've always considered their Mormon-themed episodes to actually display something of an affection for the religion. Not that they're secret Mormons or anything - certainly not - but I think it'd be wrong to suggest that they hate Mormons or anything like that."

    This is a true statement. I watched an interview with them once and they chatted about how much they admired and respected all of their mormon high school friends in Colorado, where they grew up.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:50 p.m.

    re: Todd | 9:56 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008

    >>I would rather nobody make fun of a religion.

  • Good for them
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:31 p.m.

    Let's all take it down a couple of notches. I would take Parker and Stone's even handedness scorn/attacks than the biased nonsense that comes from opposing views (e.g. Fox News vs. MSNBC) any day of the week. These guys are funny. Crude, but funny. If any honest mormon saw the "mormon" episode, you could only laugh (myself included). They were factual in almost all aspects (you can't make this stuff up!). Quite frankly, I am amazed that we (mormons) actually get as much mind share and attention as we do. Surely, there has got to be something more interesting than mormons. Maybe not. Maybe we are the new "it".

  • Silliness
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:21 p.m.

    "Are there any doubts a musical making fun of gays, blacks, or Jews wouldn't cause wide-spread protests?"

    Well, "The Producers" was actually quite popular. It made fun of Jews and gays. In fact, Jew and gay jokes are among the most popular in Broadway shows.

    You may say, "well, that's different, because everyone knows they're not being serious." But the fact is, the "South Park" episodes about Mormonism aren't particularly serious either - in fact, nothing about the show is particularly serious.

    The creators are actually quite intelligent, and they're also equal opportunity offenders. But when they're at their best, they're actually quite funny. And I've always considered their Mormon-themed episodes to actually display something of an affection for the religion. Not that they're secret Mormons or anything - certainly not - but I think it'd be wrong to suggest that they hate Mormons or anything like that.

    "I mean, do they think that South Park fans actually watch musicals?"

    Stephen Sondheim, the greatest living Broadway lyricist and composer, called "South Park the Movie" - a musical - the best musical he'd seen in years.

  • Albatross
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:12 p.m.

    " Have you noticed, these two loons have NEVER done a hit piece or "comical" out take on Mohommed and/or Muslims?We all know the reason why too."

    And who are you to say what they have "never done"? Because it's quite clear that you don't actually watch the show, and that you're just assuming. (And you know what they say about people who assume...) Mind you, I don't blame you for not watching the show - but a brief Google search would be enough to tell you that they have indeed made fun of Islam. Including a rather humorous mockery of the whole Mohammad cartoon incident.

    Certainly they don't spend nearly as much time mocking it as they do Mormons and other Christians, and gays, and various other groups - but that's because Islam is much less prevalent in the countries where the show is likely to be popular.

    And, for the record, this whole "these cowards wouldn't make fun of Islam" thing needs to die. Because it's generally not true. And yes, "Religulous" and PZ Myers do make fun of Islam (and Judaism.) They just dedicate less time to it.

  • papa
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:11 p.m.

    personally, I am just tired of it all. Why bother trying anymore to defend something that just keeps getting torn down.
    I just don't see the point anymore. Nothing is happy, people are dying everyday from who knows what, and yet all people want to do is bash Mormons. I don't know what to say to you people except I hope that when we all meet again one day we will be ashamed of all we have done. Give me a garden and a bag of seeds and let me grow something that will be beneficial to me because all of this is just tearing us down.
    Round and Round it goes and will never stop till the Brass ring is gotten and there is no more music to hear, peace, be here with us but hate continues to grow between us. The signs are here and the times have come. Be ready

  • SLC gal
    Nov. 19, 2008 1:03 p.m.

    Please just make it better then the musical scenes in Team America. Personally they'd be better off producing it here in UT. LDS satire is best left presented to those who understand it and there are not a lot who would on a Broadway scale stage.

  • Ho Hum...
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:53 p.m.

    So why would we expect anything else from them?

  • llee
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:47 p.m.

    I hate South Park. Always have. I know some people think it's funny, but to me it is just stupid and a big waste of time. There are some great shows out there that can get a lot of laughs without making fun of people and their beliefs. What kind of people are we becoming if we sink to the level of accepting the disgusting content of shows like South Park as entertainment. It kind of reminds me of dogs rolling in dead animals and then running around spreading the stink. Once you watch this stuff it stays with you and has an affect on you. The Mormons have worked hard, along with other religions, and other caring people to pass proposition 8. Now they bear the brunt of the backlash. South Park is just piling on and on and on.

  • Michael
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:42 p.m.

    Seattle Guy- You are too funny, South Park The Movie just so happened to be a musical and is honored by many in the industry as a brilliant musical- although very crass. Many South Park episodes are musicals too. Very interesting that you make the claim that South Park fans wouldn't even enjoy a musical, since a good portion of the show's writing has been through music- including the famous Mormon episode.

    Anyway, I am LDS, I love South Park, and I love musicals. Including the traditional ones. I just love good writing. I have claimed for years, and will continue to do so. South Park may just be the most brilliant comedic writing on television right now. Comedy, by it's very nature is disobedient- that's why it's funny. South Park intends to offend everybody, and if you get offended- (remember Bednar's talk a few years ago) then the joke's on you.

  • Ryan@12:34
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:41 p.m.

    Right--we shouldn't mock other religions. I am active LDS and am likewise bothered by this tendency among us. It doesn't speak well of us, people. "Do unto others," right?

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:40 p.m.

    "The "don't go see it" argument is also bogus. Even if you avoid it, your neighbors and many others around you probably won't. The word still gets out, and it still affects other people around us."

    "Word gets out..." OF WHAT? That someone is making a comedic musical about your religion? The same thing that has been done to other religions? How does this matter if your neighbors hear about it? Or if they per chance even saw it at some point?

    EVERYBODY, including myself, know that the creators of South Park are jokesters - they make fun of EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:36 p.m.

    "Have you noticed, these two loons have NEVER done a hit piece or "comical" out take on Mohommed and/or Muslims?We all know the reason why too."

    Yes, they have, on DOZENS of occasions. Unfortunately you are just plain wrong.

    SEE: the last 12 seasons of South park.

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:34 p.m.

    "Based upon it earlier TV episode SouthPark has considerable difficulty making the obvious distinction between satire and ridicule. The former can be funny, but the latter is at best obnoxious and unfair."

    Newsflash: LIFE isn't fair.

    Here's my major complaint: everyone here at my work, who are all "active" LDS, are all taking offense in the same ways as those of you who have commented are.

    These same people, and many of you I have no doubt based on your tone and comments, don't bat an eyelash while scoffing, deriding, and making condescending comments and jokes towards Scientologists and other religions.

    I just think its unbelievably hypocritical that you make fun of and chuckle at all these other religions, but then when someone pokes fun at your own you get all up in arms.

    You can't have it both ways.

  • Lee
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:30 p.m.

    Have you noticed, these two loons have NEVER done a hit piece or "comical" out take on Mohommed and/or Muslims?We all know the reason why too.

  • Mike in Texas
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:20 p.m.

    Based upon it earlier TV episode SouthPark has considerable difficulty making the obvious distinction between satire and ridicule. The former can be funny, but the latter is at best obnoxious and unfair.

    I suspect this "musical" will be just more of the same. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dumb. . . .

  • Hey, Ryan...
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:18 p.m.

    ... I'm not so sure. Though I agree our ancestors would appreciate not being burned out of their homes, I don't think they'd see much difference in being mocked in Missouri or on modern TV. It's actually LESS shocking these days to mock something sacred in the media. I think they'd be appalled at that. You can disagree if you want.

    The "don't go see it" argument is also bogus. Even if you avoid it, your neighbors and many others around you probably won't. The word still gets out, and it still affects other people around us. While many people know that South Park is hardly the place to turn for credible information, others take it seriously. I cringe to think of how many will watch this and think they actually will know something about the LDS Church.

    Just what I think!

  • Ryan
    Nov. 19, 2008 11:59 a.m.

    THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME! I can't wait to see it. :)

    And honestly, can you guys quit with the persecution-complex thing already? You're not being persecuted. You're ancestors, and mine for that matter, who were tarred and feathered and killed would shake their heads in shame at those of you who are so offended by this.

    No one is forcing you to go see it. If it offends you, don't go see it. End of story.

  • Ronnie Bray
    Nov. 19, 2008 11:46 a.m.

    Irreverence for sacred things, particularly for what is sacred to others, is a fact of life. We don't have to pretend to enjoy it, so criticism is legal, even righteous.

    Outsiders see things much differently than do insiders, because they look at the Church through different lenses, and make comparison between what they perceive as Mormonism and what they consider Orthodox, hence acceptable.

    Whilst it is never right to mock sacred things or to poke fun at the sincerely held beliefs or philosophies of others, we must remember that whilst our discomfort might be well placed, the one who is most offend by such mockery is God Himself.

    God announced the price of mocking God in Galatians 6:7, so that is taken care of.

    What then, is an appropriate response? It is that the Saints of God maintain their faith and faithfulness, by:

    "Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing"

  • BA
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:50 a.m.

    Everyone has some great points here. Parker and Stone have made money on breaking the status quo. I can not see how this show would be popular on Broadway. It makes the insults more cutting because its not 4th graders speaking but real people. They are just trying to cross that line one more time. Its not fair to pick on LDS but it does bring awareness and a good chance of Members to get on local tv stations stating the truth.

    Nov. 19, 2008 10:46 a.m.

    For all those who say they never watch this trash, you probably only watch KBYU so stop trying to weigh in as a subject matter expert.

    And will you all please stop with the victim complex... it is really getting annoying.

    This has nothing to do with the "Gays" this show if it already has been casted, has been in pre-production for well over a year.

    And really? what is with quoting the apostle John... Is this a good deed to try to save the readers of the comment board?

  • You act like trey and matt
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:22 a.m.

    Only make fun of mormons, THEY MAKE FUN OF EVERYONE, Blacks, Jews, Scientologists, Catholics, Celebrities. And the mormon episode was factual. They highlighted points that they tend to gloss over in church. But they were accurate to LDS doctrine. They only exposed what you believe.

  • It Was Only A Matter of Time...
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:22 a.m.

    ... until these jokers, who've been doing the irreverent Jesus-and-Satan-in-the-boxing-ring gambit for years, took on Mormon missionaries. (Already tackled LDS Church.) The show's well-known as anti-organized-religion in general. There's no sacred cow South Park hasn't tried to slaughter. Mormons are only the latest in a long, long line, and there'll be others after us. Count on it.

  • Jessica
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:21 a.m.

    Can't wait to see this. It will be hilarious. Matt and Trey certainly have some insight into our culture. Never be afraid to laugh at our own culture. There is much fun to be had. Ever heard of green jello, wedding receptions in cultural halls, 3 Nephites, Church basketball, sea-gulls barfing crickets, polygamy, gilgal gardens, the Deseret Alphabet, the Osmonds, etc. etc. etc.

    Lighten up people.

  • Little Guy
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:21 a.m.

    I bet these guys are closet Mormons. Come out of the closet you two!!! Come out and admit you're Mormons!!! Matt, come out and admit you believe it all!!! You two need to come out of the closet and stop acting like a bunch of hate mongering, low-life scum bags! Trey will forgive you, if you will just come out of the closet. We don't buy into your obscene, obscure, and obtuse rantings about Mormons any more than you do. Matt and Trey, COME OUT OF THE CLOSET and admit you LOVE US!

  • re: Ricky
    Nov. 19, 2008 10:08 a.m.

    I think that you are hoping for something that isn't going to happen. I do not see the Church reacting as some of the gay comunities have.

    I think that it is really sad how Hollywood has taken to persecuting the Mormon's - reminds me of the "great and spacious building"

    As I said "I think this is sad that people would lower themselves to this degree -


  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:59 a.m.

    Team America World police was horrid. I personally did not care for Baseketball.

    Parker & Stone are up there w/ Seth MacFarlane (Family Guy) and the creators of the Simpsons in terms of really great satire.

  • Todd
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:56 a.m.

    I have seen South Park and I don't think it is the "best show on TV." Hey, Stone and Parker, enjoy making fun of another religion. I will practice my right to not spend the money to see their show. I would rather nobody make fun of a religion.

  • RE: Mark
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:52 a.m.

    Ah, yes, Halestorm Productions. Agreed 120%. I fully doubt South Park will do any damage to Mormonism above and beyond what we've already done to ourselves by actually watching The RM, The Home Teachers, Singles Ward, Church Ball, etc., etc. It's only encouraged other people to try to make more of that tripe.

    Can anyone persuade Kurt Hale to try making an insightful, intelligent movie about Mormons for once in his life? We'd do ourselves a HUGE favor.

  • Brenden
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:45 a.m.

    Satire has its place, I suppose, but I will never understand why acerbic, biting, intentionally offensive material is considered humorous. Apparently it is OK to say whatever you want in the name of getting a laugh, as long as there is some trite little message at the end to tidy up the mess. A spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down, huh? Thanks, but I'd rather have the medicine without sugar that has been reconstituted from raw sewage.

    It has been noted by others that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Spencer Kimball counseled that just because something is true doesn't mean it is appropriate. I'm afraid that in this case, ability, opportunity, truth and appropriateness are all likely to take a severe beating in the name of "comedy" and profit, while any proffered light at the end will be tenuous and insubstantial at best.

    "Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own"--Jonathan Swift

  • wet 10
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:43 a.m.

    There is a difference between being un-politically correct and being costic, prejudice and cruel. South Park is clearly the latter, with foul and abusive language weaved throughouot. Many people justify, or at the least, dismiss South Park's prejudice as tolerable since they degrade every race and religion. Equal dissemination of prejudice does not mitigate the prejudice itself.

  • jack
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:43 a.m.

    Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are very much part of our constitution. The only advice I give is to have fun but not to mock God...the Mormon church went thru hard and worse times in history. What is going on now are just small potatoes...and they will go away.

  • Re: Texas LDS | 8:21 a.m
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:40 a.m.

    Since when is religion a contest?

    Maybe you should get Bob Barker to host because the Price is Wrong!

    You can try to "rejoice" but it's not going to make you feel better about the bigoted decisions you make.

  • kris
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:38 a.m.

    South Park is trash. I have never liked the show. I don't see how they think that this will get them better ratings or more viewers.

  • Shoe on the other foot?
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:13 a.m.

    I wonder how the gay community would feel if someone did a show lampooning things that were important and sensitive to them and did it with offensive language. No...I know what their reaction would be. Why then is it OK to do it to Mormons???

  • Mark
    Nov. 19, 2008 9:09 a.m.

    Stone and Parker do like to make fun of the LDS church, but we LDS have to remember, that we like to make fun of ourselves too. There is a whole movie industry in Utah wholly devoted to making fun of Mormons by Mormons. True the works of Stone and Parker are way more crude, but how can we praise one and curse the other? It's two sides of the same stick, right?

  • Mike R.
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:57 a.m.

    Sounds like another attempt to channel the old movie, "Trapped by the Mormons". The usual drivel and tripe. Who cares?

  • why care?
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:57 a.m.

    The church will always be under this kind of attack because the church doesn't care. Have fun and watch the play die on Broadway.

  • About time
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:56 a.m.

    Think Matt and Trey are "hacks"? They've won several awards for South Park. They aren't afraid to show Atheist, Liberal Hollywood Actors, Jews, Catholics, Muslims or any group that thinks they are "holier than thou". Many Mormons share the "holier than thou" attitude (although, I don't think the church itself does). South Park is the best show on TV for it's brave and un-politically correct take on current events (with the nerve to actually show the profit Mohammad image on TV - twice, ok once - you had to watch the internet version to see the 2nd). What the only "sometimes" watchers miss is the moral message at the end of each episode that illuminates the society misjudgments. It is often very clever at getting the point across. Each character represents a faction of society and stereo type. The show is much deeper than it appears on the surface. I myself find me squirming in some episodes - it's an equal opportunity offender. Freedom of speech means you sometimes won't like what you hear. Applicable to all.

  • LVIS
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:55 a.m.


    Oops. Wrong show.

  • Let's see
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:53 a.m.

    The last time these guys made an anti-Mormon production, it failed. Entirely.

    South Park continues to slip into oblivion as a show that is meaningless and tame by today's standards.

    Forgive me, but, "meh". Some entertainment biz big shot who is increasingly irrelevant doesn't like Mormons. Yawn.

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:51 a.m.

    They should excommunicate everyone who didn't donate to Prop H8.
    If mormons are associated with this play or see it, they should be excommunicated as well.

  • Ute Fans?
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:43 a.m.

    I bet the south park creators are ute fans.

  • R.Hunter
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:42 a.m.

    And the persecution of the LDS continues......

  • Re: I'll Pass
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:39 a.m.

    You nailed it. This show will last for about......hmmmmm........for as long as haters pay the money to go see it. I chatted with a guy who made outrageous claims about the LDS faith. I asked him where he got his information and he said from watching South Park. Yeah, that's where I go to get facts about anything lol. They don't realize that when people are seeking the truth these types of false attackes only help the Church and the people seeking the truth. It may get a moments laugh from some but when the show is over people will ponder it and know that it is not accurate. Except, of course, for the haters. We can only pray for them.

  • Jon
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:28 a.m.

    Dude, Ricki, why so defensive? You "will defend (your) first amendment right to do so," but is your right being taken away somehow? Why do you think you'll need to defend your right? Oh, I get it, it's because you think that since The Church will probably release a statement expressing their displeasure with the whole thing that they're somehow taking away your right. Like the gays in California who think that since The Church expressed their disagreement with gay marriage they somehow took away their rights--Reasoning 101 class is two doors down, bucky.

  • Seattle Guy
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:27 a.m.

    The South Park guys have already shown that they can't put anything good together. I mean poorly animated characters and lame story lines, Yawn. I mean, do they think that South Park fans actually watch musicals? They probably are too lazy to make to the fridge.
    As far as them mocking the church....maybe we should protest and threaten them! LOL!....Then make a musical about it!

  • Heaven Help Us All
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    I think that pretty much sums it up.

  • Texas LDS
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

    We should all rejoice: they don't ignore us any more. We're one step closer to winning.

  • Ned
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:20 a.m.

    Ricki, you crack me up.....

    I can hear little kids yelling at each other: "Git off my proppity...It's a free country, I can do whatever I want...."

  • Tough to swallow
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:16 a.m.

    Satire is often funny because its true. The lampoon of Scientology was embarrassing for Scientology because, well, Scientology is embarrassing.

  • Been there, done that
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:05 a.m.

    Have Matt Stone and Trey Parker ever heard of "Saturday's Voyeur"?

  • Scott in Houston
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:03 a.m.

    I'm a South Park loving Mormon. Sure Matt and Trey have mocked us, but they've been nicer to us than to any other religion..and they have Joseph Smith as one of the "Super Best Friends" with Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, etc. I'll take Matt and Trey over Huckabee et al.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 8:03 a.m.

    The creators of South Park, eh, how fitting. The only cartoon that takes the name of "The Almighty" in vane more than repetative reruns of Reverend Wright.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:59 a.m.

    There's a saying out there that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Let's just wait to see what the message is at the end. Remember it was a South Park episode that showed everyone in hell and people were wondering which religion was correct, and the devil or his helper said it was the Mormons. I won't get up in arms until I see what it has to say.

  • DT in Mo
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:58 a.m.

    It looks like they have run out of original ideas. As a society we need to come together--United we stand divided we fall.

  • Angie W
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:53 a.m.

    What a waste of good talent. Why don't they do something that truly inspires? The fathers of Broadway are rolling in their graves.

    New York, NY

  • hmm
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:52 a.m.

    I just hope they focus on the culture rather than the doctrine. Any attacks on LDS beliefs is a low blow. Just as their attacks on Scientologists are. I definitely believe we have to be able to laugh at ourselves, and I often am able to do so, especially when people make light of Mormon CULTURE. But when people maliciously attack the very doctrine of various religions that in no way affect them, that's what we call full-on bigotry.

  • To Ricki:
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:49 a.m.

    Why would you need to defend your first amendment rights, who says the show is not going to be shown.

  • good news
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:34 a.m.

    don't worry about arrogant south park guys-they have made and kept MILLIONS over the past 8 years while you have gone deeper and deeper in debt. I bet they LOVE what the conservative side has done for them financially.

  • don't worry
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:28 a.m.

    Mormons (including me) need a ribbing now and again. I liked the Mormon episode of South Park - it was factually accurate, and the moral of the story was that Mormons might believe some crazy-sounding stuff but they are usually nice people.

    We might as well have a sense of humor about it, because this sort of thing is not going away, regardless of our reaction.

  • I'll Pass
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:26 a.m.

    Sounds about as interesting as a roadshow.

    But, mark my words, several hundred suckers eager to show support for Mormon-bashing will pay $300-500 for tickets during the first and only day of its ill-fated run. Then, once it ignominiously folds, there will be the usual complaints that the Church -- rather than a couple of no-talent hacks with an axe to grind -- killed the play.

    These clowns are so predictable!

  • Ricki
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:18 a.m.

    I cannot wait to see it and will defend my first amendment right to do so.

  • Carolyn
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:10 a.m.

    This is a peculiar thing because I have seen a few of South Park's shows and they tend to make fun of Mormons and Joseph Smith. So are they going to use this as a forum to mock the LDS church?
    Carolyn, Altoona, Pa.

  • Johanan
    Nov. 19, 2008 7:01 a.m.

    JST John 15:18
    18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
    JST John 15:19
    19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own; but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    JST John 15:20
    20 Remember the word that I said unto you. The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
    JST John 15:21
    21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
    JST John 15:22
    22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin; but now they have no cloak for their sin.

  • Arrogance
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:56 a.m.

    In Matt Stone's interviews, he comes across as arrogant and elitist by making fun of people who actually work.

  • Sanity
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:37 a.m.

    I'd rather see wicked.

  • Kitchy
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:35 a.m.

    I have nothing against good clean fun when making fun of the peculiarity of others but South Park is trash. The few times I've watched it, it has been filthy and that kind of humor is not funny, in my opinon. It speaks of a weak minded person who hasn't the intelligence to be really funny. I know this show is popular but it just speaks of how far people have lowered themselves. Making fun of Mormons is okay but to try and bring filth into it isn't. These men are base who produce this nasty stuff.

  • nottyou
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:31 a.m.

    Who said, "Bad press is better than no press at all." The more attention is drawn to the LDS Church, the more people searching for the truth will find it.

  • curious
    Nov. 19, 2008 6:27 a.m.

    How does it sound hilarious?

    I mean, the article didn't even give a plot or storyline. I mean, it MIGHT be funny, but how do you know?

    All I know about it is that it's in the works.

  • John in Georgia
    Nov. 19, 2008 5:51 a.m.

    Again the "tolerance" double standard rears it's ugly head. Are there any doubts a musical making fun of gays, blacks, or Jews wouldn't cause wide-spread protests? It's not the first time Stone and Parker have attacked missionaries either - remember the missionary "porn" movie they made a few years ago? It's very easy to make fun of the beliefs of others, apparently it's not so easy to decide if you actually should.

  • kjco
    Nov. 19, 2008 4:15 a.m.

    just a factual error: They picketed at temples in more than three states.

  • Great
    Nov. 19, 2008 12:39 a.m.

    That sounds hilarious... I am excited to see it. As an LDS person I know we have created a culture that is very easy to be made fun of.

    It's too bad the lead has already been casted, I would love to have a chance at it.