Despite speculation about 2012, Romney focuses on GOP in '08

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  • Carmelo Junior
    Nov. 17, 2008 3:50 p.m.

    The way of the GOP back to the White House is to have a woman nominated for president. In 2012 a black president will be yesterdays news, but a woman president of the United States will be the topic of international celebration.
    With over 65% of conservatives and republicans support, Sarah is on her way to make history on her own 4 years from now.

  • Paul
    Nov. 1, 2008 8:18 a.m.

    To say 'the right hate Romney' he received a lot of votes in the primaries, I really hope he does run for President again and next time maybe he can be the Republican party candidate.

  • Lizz
    Oct. 31, 2008 6:31 p.m.

    So what is it with Romney, he is a nobody from no where going no where so why all the fan fare. Is it just because he is mormon. Is the mormon pool so small that he is the only fish.

  • Silver
    Oct. 29, 2008 5:15 p.m.

    Thanks heaven there are intelligent people who understand in spite of good looks and ability to entertain with winks and glib comments that Palin can not serve two critical entities either her family (which looks like it already has) will suffer or our nation, with the potential for her to end up as commander in chief will in ways we probably can not fathomfind out why her home town news paper is not endorsing her? We are not living in a Leave it to Beaver world there are real dangers we face that requires someone who has the knowledge, wisdom and total dedication to our security and country who will not be torn because a sick child or pregnant unwed daughter also needs her attentionplus something deep inside me tells me she is an opportunistand besides McCain scares me so I will do what my conscience tells me and write in Mitts name and thanks to those who are like minded.

    God Bless American we need all the help we can get.

  • Obama Republican
    Oct. 29, 2008 3:29 p.m.

    There is little room if any for Romney in the Inn. Us Mormon's settle for the scraps tossed from the table of the GOP. As long as we do not want a seat at the table they tolerate us.

    It is pure Irony that the Democrat Party accepts a man like Sen. Reid, knowing that his views may morph based on what his religious leader says. But the arguments brought up by RIGHT WING Evangelical nuts all center on his religion.

    Mosiah had it right or should I say left? when he desired a land free of "Inequality", "liberty", and "everyman enjoying his rights and Privileges a like".

    I for one have debated for years why I was a republican. The Gospel sure would not point most to the GOP.

  • Alex
    Oct. 29, 2008 11:34 a.m.


    "Mormons are hated by the left and the right. Mitt in 2012? Won't ever happen. "

    Correction. Mormons are hated by ENOUGH on the left and right that it might not happen. I live here in Arizona and I know there are many that love Mitt. My point is, it is not as grim for Mitt as you think. It will be just really tough.

  • Hated
    Oct. 29, 2008 11:01 a.m.

    Mormons are hated by the left and the right. Mitt in 2012? Won't ever happen.

  • glenda
    Oct. 29, 2008 12:20 a.m.

    Mitt wont wait around for 2012, he's going to be involved in church leadership callings. Besides he's not one to set around waiting for another chance to be president, he's got other fish to fry. Maybe he'll save someone's failing business that hates Mormons.

  • David O
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:16 p.m.

    Mitt is a highly educated and successful person that made time to raise a family. he is ready to lead. Palin is a joke and not dedicated to her family. Just look at that mess, a drinking underaged pregnant daughter, a troublemaking son, a husband that is barely around. One of those two parents needs to be there more for those kids. Palin was back to work only days after giving birth to a special needs child. She is dedicated to power and ambition. Mitt would have been a much better choice for VP. Mitt actually lives by his morals unlike Palin.

  • Common Sense
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:02 p.m.

    Romney 2012!

    Man, I hope so!!!

  • Jason
    Oct. 28, 2008 10:47 p.m.

    I would have voted for Governor Romney of Massachusetts. Sadly, that man is nowhere to be found. The real Mitt Romney was hijacked by the right wing of the Republican Party. He merely became the Mormon Huckabee, and then the GOP (mainly Mr. McCain and Mr. Huckabee) trashed him because of his Mormonism. It is a shame that Mr. Romney did not actually stick to his convictions and run oh his real platform. Instead, he has become just like any other republican. He will kick himself when the Republican party reinvents itself and comes to resemble the old Mitt. The Democratic revolution, lead by Mr. Obama will force the GOP to take sensible positions and perhaps even value some intelligent discourse about the issues, rather than the fear mongering, hate induced, anti-intellectual vitriol currently being spewed. This dividing of America by the GOP must stop. They have become petty sowers of contention. Perhaps I will return to that party when that change takes place.

  • Steve
    Oct. 28, 2008 9:26 p.m.

    I am personally a Democrat supporter, and I honestly do not think that John McCain would be a terrible thing for this country. Sarah Palin would. Go around and ask people you know, or just friends, or coworkers. Half of them that are voting for Obama will tell you that it is because they don't want to risk McCain dying and having Sarah Palin as Commander in Chief.

  • Utah Resident
    Oct. 28, 2008 9:12 p.m.


  • gene
    Oct. 28, 2008 7:29 p.m.

    Well, Mitt critics I don't see you denying that Mitt accomplished some real good things in 3 different fields,lives a squeeky clean life,
    dedicated to his wife and family! Sooo as my Italian uncle used to say"SHUTTA YA MOUTHA"!

  • San Diegan for Mitt
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:42 p.m.

    Lucky for the GOP that Mitt lost to McCain this time around. I agree with the earlier comment that any GOP contender would have been doomed due to the complete abandonment of the party by Bush. Bad timing for any candidate short of Reagan.

    Don't be surprised if Mitt takes a shot at the governor's chair her in CA. He bought a home in La Jolla earlier this year.

    Maybe Mitt can run and win in 2012. Let's hope so. He's the best qualified to get a handle on things in DC.

  • Mitt 2012?
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:40 p.m.

    Unless old Mitt is going to trade in his religion like he traded in his liberal views, he's gonna have the same problem next time around The GOP is all about evangelicals now, and they would never stand for Romney.

  • gene
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:28 p.m.

    Many good respectful comments by lds/non-lds!
    I can't remember a candidate for prez that had such a successful varied background as Mitt Romney!
    Olympics, Mass. (out of debt,etc.),Ceo of Bain corp.
    And a squeeky clean personal life who has been faithful to his wife of many years during her illness! The Evangelists are a bunch of ding bats, but wait a minute there was a group called EVANGELISTS FOR MITT ! Bewlive me this country is going to be on the verge of collapse before Obama
    is finished ! And his background is going to look very good! As for the fees raised...Great!
    Why tax everybody for your license to be a plumber?
    Mass. was in deep debt! Money has to be raised...
    sooo raise the fees! You pay!
    Mitt is a very smart guy! But he may want to rest
    and sit back and enjoy life!?Personally...I think a lot of guys were jealous--looks, money, smart!
    A black lady said she didn't like Romney! I told her about his accomplishments..her eyes bugged out
    and she said.."I didn't know that"!

  • Pardon Me But
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:07 p.m.

    I too believe Mitt is a good man, but remember he was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. It's alot easier to succeed when you have enormous wealth behind you, and a family to guide you. Just look at the big shakers in the world today and their roots. It's a very small percentage of these people that done it by themselves. I'm not sure that Mitt really knows what the majority of us live like or cares is my concern with him, but he definetly knows about being priveleged. Big business doesn't drive this country-the people that work for these businesses do. Don't EVER forget that NO business is any better than it's employees.

  • Re: George Bush
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:40 p.m.

    If you are replying to Real political thought. You are exactley right. We are as dumb as they think we are. Obama is counting on it. Scary but true. We have no idea what he is going to do as President, because he is just counting on the everybody hates George Bush factor, and it is working. That is scary!

  • enough already
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:36 p.m.

    PLEASE - we haven't even got this election over and we have to start hashing out 2012! I'm sick of politicians and what they have done to this country. There is going to have to be some major changes in ethics and morality to find an honest person to run for either party in 2012.

  • Jair Malthus/I like Romney
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:18 p.m.

    I am a naturalized citizen of USA.
    I will vote for senator Barrack Obama.
    Because the republican administration of G. Bush is a disgrace.
    Bush's administaration are liars.
    There were no weapons of wass destruction in Iraq.
    Iraq had no link to Sept 11th.
    If you are mormon, republican & prolife.
    How come republicans like war which is destruction of life???
    Mr. Romney is the right choice for Vice president.
    The republican party selected an unprepared politician fo VP.
    Most of the wealthy mormons that I relate with, are very good religious people but they lack universal conciousness.
    They think that they are the only tenants of this planet and that they have a monopoly of the truth.
    have a good day Merry Krisna & Happy New Year

  • LDH
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:18 p.m.

    Mitt Romney is a fraud and the LDS people are sheep for loving him so much based only on his LDS affiliation. His legacy is a sham, his biggest accomplishments include gay marriage and socialized medicine in MA. The GOP is the same, wolves in sheep's clothing, we should vote them all out and string them all up for treason!

  • BigPoet
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:17 p.m.

    You're wrong, Sarah Palin is no phony. She's just different, and you can't take that. Neither can the media or the rabid Obamaniacs.

  • Skippy
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:10 p.m.

    Run Mitt Run in 2012

  • Jerry W
    Oct. 28, 2008 3:24 p.m.

    I think the problem with present candidates and those who have run for the past few decades is that they have no experience in running a business. Being involved in business you have to face the cold hard realities of what makes the economy run and your business successful. The current candidates have all had monthly checks coming in with little understanding as to how the process of developing wealth happens. Mitt Romney is the only one who has had to bite the bullet and has been very successful at doing this. Hopefully America will wake up to this in the near future or I am not sure what kind of a future we will have.

  • Rich
    Oct. 28, 2008 3:18 p.m.

    I believe government is too big, that both the Republicans and the Democrats are spending too much money, and that we must maintain a strong national defense while protecting our individual Constitutional rights, such as the right to own and bear arms, the right to free speech, the right to practice our religion, etc. I'm not a Democrat because that party won't protect a baby's right to life, constantly talks about further restricting gun rights, criticizes Christians and others who maintain traditional family values, defends candidates who are weak-kneed when it comes to using force when necessary to protect human rights and our national defense, and can't understand that raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy means less money in the economy to go around. For the most part Romney reflects my values. He is intelligent, economically well-educated, well-spoken and possesses executive experience. I think he would be an outstanding President or Vice-President. McCain should have selected him instead of Palin, but I also think she would be a good Vice-President or President because she is not afraid to wield her power to favor the citizens over Big Government. I truly hope that McCain/Palin comes out ahead.

  • bawahaha
    Oct. 28, 2008 3:16 p.m.

    Oh, stop it! You're killing me. My sides ache from laughing and I can't see through the tears streaming down my face.

  • SLMG
    Oct. 28, 2008 3:07 p.m.

    If the good people of Utah think that in 2012 Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin will be the candidates for president they are in for a big shock. Hopefully the Republican party can find someone to run that could actually win. Why would Mitt Romney put himself through the same pain again, he will still be a Mormon and the attitude of the country will not of changed in that regard, he still would not have a chance to win the nomination. As for Sarah Palin, heaven forbid that this woman that acts like a teenage cheer leader with raging hormones should even be considered a candidate is beyond belief. There are so many more dignified and better qualified Republican women that would make excellent candidates for the office of president, choose one of them.

    Where does this "the Republican party hates Mormons" or "the Democarts hate Mormons" depending what side of the fence you are on come from? Niether party hates Mormons, they only want your votes they do not care what your religion is. Wake up Utah, vote for the person not the party and you wonder why you are called sheep by the rest of the country.

  • Flip flop
    Oct. 28, 2008 2:29 p.m.

    By 2012 Mitt will be a Democrat.

  • another blessing for Democrats
    Oct. 28, 2008 2:24 p.m.

    As for "Palin 2012," that development would just be the latest in a long list of blessings for the Democratic Party since early 2005, when Bush's Social Security privatization scheme collapsed, starting a downward spiral that led the Republican Party, among other dead-end paths, toward Juneau, Alaska. So, to that prospect, I say: Run, Sarah, Run!

  • David O
    Oct. 28, 2008 2:13 p.m.

    Spare me, this Republican administration has DONE MORE to turn us into a socialized country than Obama has even had a chance to do. Look at our banks, brought to you by so called conservatives. A conservative president resided over the largest growth of people depending on medicaid due to losing health insurance.

    "Bob b. | 1:12 p.m. Oct. 28, 2008
    All you Mormons complaining about the Christian Right have me laughing. Look at the results from two Bible belt states. In Georgia Huck got 34% McCain 32 % and Mitt got 30 percent."

    Bob, that is a huge pool of people that weren't willing to vote for Romney. How many of those are the ones that called Mormons a cult? Many.

  • Senior Citizen
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:47 p.m.

    After reading all of the above (some of them very wacky responses, in my view), I thought: When you're a "public" figure, you definitely can't please all of the people all of the time. Some of the comments scare me more than the current political and economic situation in our country does!

  • scotwrong
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:46 p.m.

    "scotwright | 3:49 a.m. Oct. 28, 2008
    Here we go again, down that same trail we went with Jimmy Carter. Carter, like Obama was a no nothing populist. This country went through some tough times in the late seventies and it seems that we have forgotten that history. If we believe the BS put out by the media and certain other professional brainwashers we conservatives will give up and give in to the radical slobs who stand with the socialist Dumb-o-crats. Everyone who cares anything about America and Christian values should support McCain/Palin and don't become discouraged. They can win but only if we vote for them. The people who would support Obama, if they stay away from the poles will be helping this become a better country. Think about it!"

    Are you in 2nd grade? Seriously, your arguments and name calling smacks of one very, very little boy. Recess is OVER!

  • Vultures
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:45 p.m.

    Why are there so many comments about 2012????

    McCain hasn't even lost yet. He just might WIN!!!

    Why such negativism?? Where's the Faith???

  • Re: Evan
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:40 p.m.

    "Evan from Maine | 8:18 p.m. Oct. 27, 2008
    After Comrade Obama is chosen as "The Great One" for the United Socialist States Of America, people will realize they should have had Mitt Romney as the top of the ticket. Mitt is the only one that can save us in 2012."

    You, sir, are a complete moron. Go study up on communisim, marxism, and socialism before you cast aspersions on Obama. You may not like him, but this kind of drivel simply exposes your ignorance and lack of education.

  • charlie
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:39 p.m.

    Mitt R. will realize his mistake and drop the GOP and is the Democratic President nominee in 2016, - Now the question is, will Utah still support thier Presidential pick?

  • Bob b.
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:12 p.m.

    All you Mormons complaining about the Christian Right have me laughing. Look at the results from two Bible belt states. In Georgia Huck got 34% McCain 32 % and Mitt got 30 percent. 41,37, and 17 percent respectivly in Alabama. Now look at Utah. Mitt got 90 percent. Guess that means a close to 3 or 4 way split is hate from the Christian Right but voting 90 percent for Mitt because he is Mormon is ok. It proves what I have known for the 22 years I have lived here. Utah is definitly another planet where logic does not apply.

  • George Bush
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:44 p.m.

    Well, they elected "W" twice!

    (it has been a joke)

  • Real Political thought
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:18 p.m.

    I am LDS and I will guarantee that Mitt will have a problem getting elected because he is LDS. Don't waste our time speculating about it. Liberals & Evangelicals share one value, hatered of Mormoms. The Republican Party put their most electable ticket together with McCain and Palin, and it may still not enough. The media has blamed Bush so much that it was immpossible to overcome. McCain and Palin are the most electable, and I will tell you why. McCain can actually get the center vote and the Republican base is not offended enough to vote for Obama. McCain also gets the older generation because of his war experience and his age. Palin is a women, religious and is not bad looking. So she brings in women lib types, men who think she is hot, and almost everyone who believes in conservative values and christian values. On the economy, American's have not heard a plan from either side that gives them any confidence. Obama will most likely win because American's are hoping that it was just all Bush's fault and everything we get better when he is out. Most American's are as dumb as they think we are.

  • NO!!!!!!!
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:16 p.m.

    No more reaganites! The drip down theory has all dried up!

  • Wayne--Huntington Beach
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:11 p.m.

    The hate-spewing tv/radio Evangelists, along with Jessie Jackson, Allen Sharpton, Rev. wright and groups i.e. LULAC, have their own agenda (CONTROL)over their 'flocks'( think sheep).

    Without this control, they would be out of a high paying job and luxurious lifestyle.

    Because of several Interfaith Council efforts,we are beginning to see a wave of cohesiveness amongst the various religious/ethnic groups, wherin they do support Mitt Romney, because of his excellent moral/family values, in addition to his superior leadership qualities and excellent knowledge of economics and business experience, along with his ability to communicate with international representatives.

    Fortunately, many people of other faiths and groups are starting to think for themselves now, and would support Mitt Romney.

  • Joe Biden V.P.
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:56 a.m.

    Sarah Palin for president? "Are you joking? Is this a joke?"

  • Bhansen
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:54 a.m.

    I'm voting Mitt Romney for President and Hillary Clinton for Vice President. I live in PA and can't vote for either McCain or Obama with a clear conscience.

  • I Like Mitt
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:49 a.m.

    I don't agree with the idea that Mitt couldn't win the south. Especially if he runs against Obama in 2012.

    I've lived outside of Utah for the past 19 years and the hype about the "Mormon-hating Christians" is wildly exaggerated on this board. A SMALL handful of misguided evangelicals use the nursery-school logic that "Mormons aren't Christians" because we believe Satan, like all of us, is a child of God who fell from grace or that we don't accept the Nicean Creed, which not even the evangelicals (or Catholics for that matter) can explain - much less defend with scripture.

    There is no doubt in my mind that if he won the nomination, Mitt would carry the South and could win the election.

    Romney vs Obama in 2012 is very reminiscent of Reagan vs Carter in 1980.

    I'm thinking landslide for Mitt.

  • Lonnie
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:48 a.m.

    You people who think that term limits is the answer to our problems are kidding yourselves. Our founders provided term limits for us. Its called an informed electorate and voting. We could vote out 435 members of the house every two years if needed. We could change 1/3 of the senate every two years if necessary. The problem is being informed and electing good, honest, men or women of integrity. It doesn't matter how often we vote if we keep putting the same kind of people in there. How can we get this nation back on track if we continue to elect people like: Harry Reid, Nancy Polosi, Ted Stevens, Mark Foley (gone), Barney Frank etc. If Obama is elected inspite of his socialist agenda and past associations with the likes of Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rashid Khalidi, Louis Farrakhan, it will be the biggest hoax/fraud ever perpetrated on the American people in our history.

  • Mitt - get a job
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:46 a.m.

    Mitt is going to look even more sad in 4 years if all he can say he did since the last election is do some political fund raising.

    I would recommend he get off the campaign trail and find a job - maybe head up a cabinet or a UN position. Or how about heading up the Red Cross or a similarly respected organization?

  • Don't Gasp at this concept?
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:42 a.m.

    No, but I will gasp at your spelling.

  • David O
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:28 a.m.

    If you reddest of the red states keep wanting to vote for Republicans, fine. That is your free agency. Just remember that army of Southern Baptist youth that went knocking on doors. They are voting age now and are or will be parents soon teaching the same hatred of Mormons and perpetuating lies. Why do you think Romney had to give his religion speech? SO keep voting for the Republicans that hate you. Just don't deny it.

  • Jeffrey
    Oct. 28, 2008 11:02 a.m.

    Wow, that article outlined every reason why I can't stand Romney.

    Not that it matters; he continues to only be relevant in Utah.

  • Ummmm
    Oct. 28, 2008 10:59 a.m.

    Wasn't Huckabee technically the second-place finisher in the GOP this year?

  • AKRM
    Oct. 28, 2008 10:28 a.m.

    The Penecostals that attend the Assembly of God churches will never vote for a Mormon. I have done the polling by knocking on a lot of doors in Wasilla and Juneau (Palin's congregations). They really do despise Mormons. Members of these congregations would even sabotage our discussions.

    Even though Mitt will try to pander for their votes, he will not get their support. I offered to shovel snow, cut wood, pull weeds, but nothing would get them to like or listen to me.

    He would have more of a chance by switching parties and running under a similar platform that got him elected in Massachusetts.

    Would Mormons vote for him then?

  • Write-in
    Oct. 28, 2008 10:06 a.m.

    I'm just going to write in Mitt Romney for pres when I vote. I can't stand McCain or Obama

  • re; Mormon from a dumb state
    Oct. 28, 2008 9:31 a.m.

    Do you know what educated idiot means? I'd like to see Obama's college transcripts. I'd like to see his academic merits. But I won't because he obviously has something to hide or he would release his prestigious credentials. He is hiding a lot of things that we will never know because he ISN'T transparent and he ISN'T forthcoming. But I am excited for the country to get him as their president. I am excited because "smart people" from "smart states" only learn from the consequences of their "smart decisions" and that is the only thing I am sure about in this whole political process. "Smart people" from "smart states" are proving that they are really just full of their own education ego and so let them have Obama. Let them have his policies, his judges, and his character and then you will see what it is like when the "dog chases the car and then catches it!" Most Obama supporters are making an emotional decision or an anti-Bush decision but neither of these make Obama a better leader or more qualified and they don't make his ideas valid. Obama isn't standing on his own merits, he is riding emotion!

  • Velvet
    Oct. 28, 2008 9:15 a.m.

    John McCain has as good a chance as Mitt Romney in 2008. So I'm going to write in Mitt Romney, the better candidate of the three!

  • Milo P. Otis
    Oct. 28, 2008 9:05 a.m.

    Yes, I'm L.D.S. and would vote for Romney next time around. I'm also a registered Democrat and have already voted via mail: Obama, but not straight ticket. Judges: Toss 'em. Let them get back into the private sector and work for a living. I'm not into career politicians. Serve, then "go back to the farm" and serve in another capacity, but serve. I believe in term limits, but it will never happen other than that of the office of President of the United States.

    McCain has made his choice: Palin and she will bring him down, if HE hasn't already on his own. We are not winning in Iraq. Any time we've lost one of our own, we're not winning. The serge "It's working." That's nice. We shouldnt be there. L.B. J. lied to us; so has Bush. We shouldnt be there, period.

    McCain has served his country, so have many others. I've lost a very good friend to alcoholism due to the Viet Nam war. This was a very useless, we were lied to war. L.B.J.'s biggest downfall. Will we ever learn form history? No.

  • provonate
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:55 a.m.

    To provojoe - Yes, many executives caused the problems that have now beset our economy, but to put Romney in class with them is ridiculous.

    They weren't the only ones who got us into this mess. The greed of Wall Street was matched by the greed of "Main Street." In 1999, Clinton and his cronies strong-armed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to allow subprime lending. They lowered the regulations that were in place so that more people could own houses. That in itself isn't bad, but when a person can report welfare and foodstamps as income that props up the system with no real backup. Yes, Bush didn't reregulate the Banks and Lenders, but when millions of people mortgaged themselves into houses they couldn't afford it was only a matter of time. I don't feel sorry for the companies that went out of business nor those that have lost their houses due to greed. Some families have simply hit hard times, which is regrettable, but to make working, prudent, patient Americans pay for the mistakes of their nonworking, impatient, greedy peers is ludicrous.

  • R.I.P. America
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:45 a.m.

    Gosh darn. We are going down as a nation. Family values are out the door. REALLY SAD.
    Jesus said: "Love One Another, As I have loved You."

  • People-People
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:44 a.m.

    Where's your memories gone or better-have you just lost your eyesight and hearing? Who just who would vote for party that has run this country into the ground in 8 years, and want more of the soam medicine? I just don't get your Utah republican mentality. And to think you are trying to sell people on how bad Obama-Biden would be after this mess of the last 8 years-UNBELIEVABLE.

  • New Yorker
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:35 a.m.

    To provojoe:
    Only Mormons want Romney? If you live in Happy valley you need to get out. I travel all over the country and I hear people of all walks say they wish that Romney was on the ticket. Last Friday I was on my way to JFK and the driver (a 30 year immigrant from Macedonia) brought up the fact that Romney would be the only one qualified to sort out this mess. I'm sure both yobama and mccain with their vast economic experience are highly qualified for this task. Get real. Neither of them has even balanced a checkbook let alone, made a payroll. Unfortunately the country is going down a path (both parties) that will take years to correct.

  • Write in Romney
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:29 a.m.

    This election is a wash. No matter who is elected, it's going to be bad for America. I see Obama as the greater of two evils, but I can't quite bring myself to vote for McCain. So I'm going to vote my conscience and write in Romney.

    If you're tired of picking between two completely ridiculous choices, I encourage you to join me in writing in a candidate that you would feel good about. It's not a wasted vote. If enough people do it, it could start a trend that will be noticed.

  • Cats
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:28 a.m.

    Whether or not evangelicals like Mormons is actually irrelevant. Mormon's align with Republicans because the Republican values are much more in line with the values of most Mormons. The Democrats have made it just about impossible for most Mormons to be Democrats. This has been going on for a long time and nothing has changed. In fact, it's probably even worse now.

    Assuming Obama is elected, the Republicans will regroup, get their act together and be in a great position to come storming back in 2010 and 2012. The chance for Mitt to get the nomination and be elected in 2012 is excellent and the ONE light I see at the end of this tunnel.

    As someone who has spent a lot of time in Washington, I can tell you that the pendulum always swings back and forth. Right now it is swinging in favor of the Democrats. However, at this point they are so far left, they are going to have a tough time governing a center/right country without making everyone pretty unhappy in a very short time.

    I hope Mitt can come back and save us in 2012 after Obama has made a total mess of it.

  • evangelicals
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:24 a.m.

    It is true that one can not overstate the loathing evangelicals have for Mormons (I am lifelong LDS and lifelong resident of BibleBelt) however if Romney gets the nomination they will hold their noses and vote for him in November.
    The trick will be to get the nomination without a ton of evangelical support but Romney is a class candidate and it is entirely do-able.

  • Romney 2012
    Oct. 28, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    The Republican Party rewatds loyal runners up with the nomination next time around.
    Mitt is in line to be the nominee (it is true the Hucksteer hung around hoping to get enough delegates to be the #2 guy for just that reason, to be seen as the runner-up heir, but he didn't get the delegates and only annoyed by overstaying his welcome)

    Look for Mitt in 2012.

  • Dutchman
    Oct. 28, 2008 7:59 a.m.

    I've said it more than once and I'll say it again. The Republican Party blew it big time this year thanks to the mindless evangelicals. The ticket should have been Romney-Petraeus. This ticket would have won in a cake walk.

  • Chuck
    Oct. 28, 2008 7:51 a.m.

    The best candidate for President in any year from now on would be a reluctant one. George Washington was the man we needed when this all began, and he didn't want the job. We need someone with a head on his/her shoulders who isn't in it for the politics and who isn't seeking position. And because the system is so politically entrenched, I doubt we'll ever see that happen.

  • jumpin' jack
    Oct. 28, 2008 7:18 a.m.

    God forbid that Mitt or Sarah, or both are on the Republican ticket next time around. The country needs leaders not ideologues.

  • provojoe
    Oct. 28, 2008 6:53 a.m.

    You people are up early. The idea that Mitt would make a good President or VP because he was a CEO is a wild and dangerous idea. They're the ones who caused this mess. The idea that ANYONE understands what's going on in our economy has been torpedoed by the parade of experts claiming to know and all disagreeing. Romney has exactly zero experience dealing with what is upon us. Here's what I know: An every man for himself economy can't last. It can't be saved over the long term, even if it seems to recover for a few more years. Romney may play it cool and act like it's all so simple, but the only ones wishing he was chosen are Mormons who can't citizen their way out of a paper bag and use the same identity politics to choose Romney as our enemies used to vote against him.

  • jenny
    Oct. 28, 2008 6:36 a.m.

    I don't care for Mitt R but the GOP would be stupid to put Sarah Palin out there for 2012 as she is phonier than Mitt but not the best choice for a woman in such a high position. She may have the gift of the gab but come on, smarts she ain't got

  • Enough With The Fake History
    Oct. 28, 2008 6:27 a.m.

    White Horse at 1:14 wrote:

    "No doubt there could be a white horse in the white house by 2012!"

    Check your history, there was NO White Horse prophecy ever uttered by Joesph Smith. I for one am sick of Mormons using fake prophecy and history to build their faith and drive their agenda.

    When we have so much of substance why do we continually fall back on fake facts and sentimentalism.

    Get real!

  • liberal Larry
    Oct. 28, 2008 6:17 a.m.

    If Romney can go back to the drawing board and figure out who he is, he has a shot at the 2012 nomination. He could have gotten away with his liberal conversion to the left, to get elected governor, but his last swing to the right to mollify the wacky religious right, for his resent presidential run, was just too much. Ironically, McCain probably got nominated because he appeared to be more centrist, in his stands, a spot Mitt could have just slide into if he had maintained his integrity, and not tried to appeal to the evangelicals.

  • 4th Generation Californian
    Oct. 28, 2008 6:08 a.m.

    To Anonymous who said:
    "I bet the LDS' involvement in Prop H8 and meddling in the constitution of CA will be a really good endorsement of a Mormon in the White House and how non-Mormon Americans can feel good about that!

    Yup! I betcha!"

    I thought that was what this country was all about-being able to express and influence your opinion on any issue regardless of race or religion. Are you saying that if I am LDS I or my church cannot defend beliefs that are central to my religion? What religion are you? Do you have a right to express your views on gay marriage?

    Yup! I betcha!

  • CP
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:40 a.m.

    Oh PLEASE not Sarah Palin!! The elections for this year with the candidates running now is a big enough nightmare!!!!

  • Which do I want?
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:32 a.m.

    NEITHER of them. The country could do a lot better without either of them. I'm hoping Chuck Hagel will decide to run.

  • I'm glad the GOP is tanking
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:17 a.m.

    I am a conservative woman. A mother of 8. I have special needs kids and a 17 yr old who is preparing for college, not a shotgun wedding with my newborn as the ringbearer.

    Palin is not a good example to our daughters. She is teaching by example, that motherhood is just a photo op. Career First. Family whenever you can get around to it, and when you can charge the state for it. McCain is no better. Maybe it's time to release the reins of power, so we can get our act back on track. Raise the standards and bar for our leadership. Stop walking lockstep. Send the clear message to the GOP that we want leadership again. We want to be able to vote without holding noses. We need to be the party of linclon again, and not the party of Dobbson and Palin. It's time to wander in the wilderness for 4 years. The Jewish people had to do it for 40. We only have to wander for a 10th of the time, if we do the hard work during that time!

  • JMT
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:02 a.m.

    When I hear talk of Mitt for President there are two things that come to mind. The first is socialized medicine done the Romney way in Massachusetts. It is a financial and performance disaster and VERY similar to what Hillary Clinton proposed. Second, the fact that he raised FEES by $700 million and claimed he didn't increase taxes. While true it is his own "depends on what the definition of 'is' is" moment,

    I like the guy but simply think he is another Rino who mocks Repubicans. And I'm not so sure he would not have also jumped in bed with the current $700 billion bailout.

    Nothing to love in Romney yet.

  • Mitt is fit
    Oct. 28, 2008 5:00 a.m.

    Obama has been all over the media for good and for evil.
    Any student of politics 101 will tell you that that is great. Keep your face and name out there always.

    Even when they talked bad about him it made others feel sorry for him.

    Mitt Romney is good at it also.

    /now he just needs more political money.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 28, 2008 4:50 a.m.

    Mitt has too many tapes against him?!?

    What difference does it make?

    Obama has so many tapes in his socialists closet he could make a Marx's Halloween movie!

    /the media will love it.

  • scotwright
    Oct. 28, 2008 3:49 a.m.

    Here we go again, down that same trail we went with Jimmy Carter. Carter, like Obama was a no nothing populist. This country went through some tough times in the late seventies and it seems that we have forgotten that history. If we believe the BS put out by the media and certain other professional brainwashers we conservatives will give up and give in to the radical slobs who stand with the socialist Dumb-o-crats. Everyone who cares anything about America and Christian values should support McCain/Palin and don't become discouraged. They can win but only if we vote for them. The people who would support Obama, if they stay away from the poles will be helping this become a better country. Think about it!

  • David O
    Oct. 28, 2008 2:24 a.m.

    I can tell you one thing for sure, the evangelical right wing of the Republican party loves Palin and her alcohol drinking pregnant unwed teen daughter more than they love Romney, a man who raised a successful family and has helped his wife through her illness and is a successful businessman. His crime that he committed to get less support than her or Huckabee? Being LDS. Mccain would be quite a maverick he claims and dump Palin and throw on Romeny.

  • Provo Voter
    Oct. 28, 2008 2:00 a.m.

    Well, people are waking up to the truth. Look behind the seens and see who is saying what. The funniest and saddest truth is Fox News. To say it is fair and balanced is false. Who is the CEO of Fox News and what has been his role in convincing people with what seems so little regard for truth. Research the name Roger Ailes in wikipedia and maybe you will find out how the buddy system works. Its money for the rich.

  • White Horse
    Oct. 28, 2008 1:14 a.m.

    No doubt there could be a white horse in the white house by 2012!

  • Romney's problem remains
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:57 a.m.

    Memo from Boston:

    Mitt Romney was our governor and he did a great job for Massachusetts! One thing I like about this liberal state: Mormonism was never brought up in the campaign, not even once, and if anyone would have used religion against Mitt they would have been toast. You just don't talk publicly about personal religion in New England, it's considered impolite.

    The flipside for Mitt is that Mass is a liberal state. The only way for a Republican to win here is to appeal to moderates. There is a lot of tape showing Mitt saying he supports Roe v Wade and pro gay partnerships. Those tapes aren't going to disappear and will be used against him.

    I doubt that evangelicals will ever allow Mitt to be the nominee. They will say it is the tapes where he says he's moderate, but the truth is that they just can't stand Mormons.

    Mitt has to be VP first, there's no other way.

  • David O
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:46 a.m.

    "To: Dave O | 7:41 p.m. Oct. 27, 2008
    You fail to understand that Mormons use their faith and values to choose their party, not using their party affiliation to shape their values. Until you and others like you get it, you just won't understand the way Mormons vote."

    No, I know it all too well, I know the disdain the evangelical right has for Mormons. You all forget too soon that Southern Baptist Convention that rolled into town. I got a knock on my door from them and they told me their army was going door to door to tell all the Mormons they chose a false religion. They told me "Mormons were a cult and that Joseph Smith was a fraud." This is what the evangelical right is teaching their children. I told them to take their hate mongering off my doorstep. These are the ones that grow up and vote against people like Mitt Romney.

    I only understand too well the voting pattern here and until Mormons vote otherwise, they will be treated as the ugly stepchild in the Republican Party.

  • KM
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:18 a.m.

    It doesn't matter if Obama can't keep his promises. The leftist media will never take him to task. In fact, they will blame the rascally republicans for any Obama failures. Same old same old.

  • Mormon from a dumb state
    Oct. 28, 2008 12:16 a.m.

    Obama is on track to win 9 of the 10 states that has the HIGHEST amount of college graduates per capita in the U.S. Guess what McCain is on track to win 9 (and maybe all 10) of the states with the LOWEST amount of college graduates per capita.

    Now quick, someone please tell me
    which states are smarter?

    Or, can you say: "We the people"

  • David O
    Oct. 27, 2008 11:36 p.m.

    How many Mormons here responding to me have ever been to these evangelicals churches that call Mormonism a cult? I have been to many many services of many religions and I can tell you for a fact the ones that the far right goes to only likes Mormons for the vote, otherwise the LDS Church is a cult to them. It is a fact, those who deny it just haven't been outside the bubble.

    Mitt Romney would be an excellent president in the current economic mess. He was not McCain's vp because of the evangelical right. Romney raised a ton of money for McCain. You think Romney did that because they are pals? No, because he was trying to gain acceptance.

  • Mark B
    Oct. 27, 2008 11:25 p.m.

    Wow. The things you can find here. You've got a guy who calls himself ITrustNo1 (not just sure what that means) who takes on the duty of speaking for deity, and adding a little scold lesson for everyone else. Has he MET Romney?

  • Don't gasp at this concept.
    Oct. 27, 2008 11:09 p.m.

    First of all to the 10:17 pm post, it isn't like Romney would be hoping to get CA's vote, they are so liberal.

    OK, I never thought I would say this, but I think a Romney/Huckabee ticket would be good. I resent the anti-Mormon digs from Huckabee, but I think that he has wised up. I think that Romney would bring stability and Huckabee would bring personality, sorry Romney. I would like to see Mitt run again, I think that religions are going to have to become more tolerant if they want a conservative in office.

    I just worry about Israel, I have heard that if Obama is elected that they are going to go after Iran right away.

    Don't be surprised if Polosi doesn't end up with the power, they will have Bidan put in the loony bin and she will put out a hit on Obama. That lady is trouble and she wants to control all. And when all this happens, we will watch her sweet little sidekick Mormon, Reed helping her along. What a joke he is, I accept Mormon's being Democrats, but he seems to cross the line all to much.

  • Professor
    Oct. 27, 2008 11:01 p.m.

    Things change quickly in politics. There is no way Obama and his Democratic Congress will be able to deliver all they promise. It is an impossibility. Four years from now the whole thing will be up for grabs again.

    And the Republicans? The evangelicals will most likely shoot themselves in the foot again. They choose McCain over Romney by backing the Pastor and have four years to reload their shotgun.

  • Mark B
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:47 p.m.

    A true waste of time speculating on the 2012 GOP nominee. Would any of you have picked, PRIOR to the 04 election, McCain and Obama? Not one in a thousand would have, but that doesn't keep you from showing your smarts by speculating, then hoping everyone forgets it. Palin is where she is on the basis of ONE vote - McCain's. And Mitt? He'll have to find a new crowd to pander to because the old one gave him nothing but the back of its hand. But since we're all being silly together, I'll go out on a limb by predicting...another old white guy, four years older than he is now.

  • ITrustNo1
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:46 p.m.

    Palin is more 'Qualified' to be President then Obama. At least she has managed Alaska. Obama hasn't managed a popcorn stand, let alone anything that remotely resembles the United States of America.

    Romney, on the other hand, obviously has much more experience then Obama, and he would have eaten Obama's lunch in a debate. Every time Obama would have tried to tap dance to avoid answering specific questions, like he has done with McCain, Romney would have brutalized him with hard cold facts.

    Romney can also go more than toe to toe with Obama in the speach delivering category.

    This fear I hear in some people's voices concerning anti-Mormonism, and its being a reason for Romney not to run for President in 2012, smacts of your having very "little faith" in the Lord's possible purpose for this gifted, intellegent, honorable man....Mitt Romney. Fear is Lucifers tool, not our Father in Heavens. Thank goodness Joseph Smith understood that.

  • Officially Democrat
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:44 p.m.

    Between the "well-read" Sarah Palin and double-take-super-issue-retractor Romney, I'm voting Democrat in 2012 if those are the frontrunning Republicans.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:30 p.m.

    The Party's over. Ther will be no pick in '08 nor 09' except for the Republicans to pick their nose!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:17 p.m.

    I bet the LDS' involvement in Prop H8 and meddling in the constitution of CA will be a really good endorsement of a Mormon in the White House and how non-Mormon Americans can feel good about that!

    Yup! I betcha!

  • Julee11
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:14 p.m.

    LGBT people in England, Belgium, Canada, Spain and the Netherlands all have equal rights, including marriage. Society has managed to accept it and adapt. We should learn something from "BisexualMingle dotcom", many members here working for GLBT rights. And there are about 100 members per day and they are very active. And if you often are online, you may find what you are looking more easily.

  • Mystifying Media
    Oct. 27, 2008 10:10 p.m.

    Mitt isn't running for office. Yet that is what the media wants to talk about. We have three congressional races going on and yet the Deseret News blogs are silent on the subject. Forget Mitt and his future plans, we have decisions to make today.

    In 2007 National Taxpayers Union gave Representative Matheson a grade of D. He has been ranked 32 times in his eight years by taxpayer watch-dog groups, and his average ranking over that period is 35%, a D rating at best. Ill spot him 20 points just in case my sources werent complete, but 55% is still is not a passing grade. We can no longer afford to grade Congress on a curve, or soon they will think that 6% will be a passing grade. Jim Matheson may be better than the average Democrat in congress when it comes to protecting taxpayers, but that's like saying that a sprained ankle is better than a compound fracture. I'd rather have neither.

    I wish the media would focus on relevant issues instead of Mitt.

  • Tell us Mitt
    Oct. 27, 2008 9:58 p.m.

    So "Mitt" . . . tell us these wonderful qualifications of Obama . . . He is an empty suit who says "nothing" very eloquently. Don't be a stooge for the liberal media.

  • To mitt
    Oct. 27, 2008 9:53 p.m.

    Well from Obama's credentials he has so far been... a community organizer and a senator mostly absent while campaigning for president. Yeah great credentials. At least Palin has been doing something while in public office...

    Oct. 27, 2008 9:48 p.m.


    Oh wise one...I noted how you challenged me to get my head examined.....another idiot who can't see the forest through the trees.....

    I stand by my post that Obama has no qualifications for President...unless you are referring to his Community Organizer experience? That is about as impressive as his associations with Wright, Ayers, Resko or his desire to raise taxes on those who already pay 86% of the taxes?

    If Obama is elected and you have a job, get ready to pay more taxes....if you don't have a job, Obama is going to buy you a house! Communism disquised as an American Dream!

  • Harry Reid
    Oct. 27, 2008 9:24 p.m.

    Becasuse of his party's open mind to religion. He is the LDS person with best chance in 2012.

  • Mitt
    Oct. 27, 2008 9:04 p.m.

    I wish McCain would have picked Mitt, so that fool could have lost twice. But the GOP hates the LDS church, everything about it.

    Mitt Romney will never be the President of the United States.

    Maybe a different Mormon will be, but not Mitt.


    And whoever wrote that Obama and Palin have equal qualifications to be the President, you need to go get your head checked out.

    Palin is not qualified to be a school board president and from the looks of it, neither are you.

  • Rap
    Oct. 27, 2008 9:01 p.m.

    Mormons need to get out of politics and into the church to heal their souls and get over the love of money and the power of politics and practice the teachings of Christ before it is too late.

  • Pigs will fly
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:51 p.m.

    I lived in Texas, South Carolina and Georgia before coming home to Utah. There is no way conservative so-called Christians will vote for an LDS candidate, not going to happen. The ignorance of people who go to pentecostal Assemblies of God church like Sarah Palin is really breathtaking.

    I predict that the first woman president will have to be a Republican, and that the first Mormon president will have to be Democrat.

    Sorry Mitt, I like you too.

  • New Yorker
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:42 p.m.

    The GOP takes Utah for granted. This year both presidential candidates are awful. The only way to let the GOP know that we won't vote for just anyone they put on the ballot is to vote for someone else. That is why I am writing in Mitt Romney. I hope he doesn't run in 2012 because after four years of yobama there may not be much left to govern or fix, it will be completely broken.

    Oct. 27, 2008 8:41 p.m.

    I have to laugh at the tactic of libs trying to convince us mo's that the repub/christians hate us?

    What a joke....and the liberals love mormons? Which ones would those be...Ellen DeGenerate, Michael Moore, Chevy Chase, Jay Leno, MoDonna, or Mayor Rocky?

    And just what values do liberals espouse that mormons share? Communism? Abortion? Legalize Marijuana? Tax those who work, and give it to those who don't? Yea, that Barack is the second coming of Christ and McCain is John the baptist!

    Looking at Obama who has not anymore qualifications than does Palin.......makes me really wish I could cast a vote for Romney for Pres this year. This years vote based on the integrity, experience and judgement of the candidates is alot like voting for ...........Satan or Lucifer?

  • Unfortunate Circumstances
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:38 p.m.

    Unfortunately, neither party is a great fit for Mormons. The evangelical republicans don't like us for anything but our conservative vote, and the liberals dislike our views on abortion and gay marriage.

    While I am one of the few "blue" (not byu blue) LDS people here in Utah, I still don't support abortion or gay marriage, and will never support gun control. However, I do not like the republicans tax laws, and lax regulations for big business. I also dislike the lack of spending on schools (this should be a much higher priority).

    I think that we'd see more support from LDS members if the Dem. party would back off from Abortion and the whole Gay Marriage stance, and then publicly notified the population of it. Until this happens, we won't see much change in this state. Those are some big issues for us, and can still cause me to vote away from pushers of these causes.

    If you want more votes for Dems in Utah, then that's what needs to be done. Until then, I'm one of a very few that will still vote blue (most the time).

  • Evan from Maine
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:18 p.m.

    After Comrade Obama is chosen as "The Great One" for the United Socialist States Of America, people will realize they should have had Mitt Romney as the top of the ticket. Mitt is the only one that can save us in 2012.

  • take it from me...
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:18 p.m.

    Reagan lost the nomination to Ford in '76;
    Ford lost the election to Carter.
    After 4 years of Carter and a Dem congress America was ready for the Reagan Revolution.

    Mitt lost to McCain who will lose to Obama.
    By 2012 America will be sick of Obama
    (who will be Carteresque in his clueless arrogance and incompetence)
    and the Romney Revolution will be underway.

    mark your calendars

  • 2012 Is Better
    Oct. 27, 2008 8:02 p.m.

    I am extremely glad that Mitt Romney wasn't on the ticket this year. Nothing he could have done could have overcome the Democrat's argument of "failed Bush policies." Debate the merit of that all you want, but having Romney on the ticket this time around would have killed his chances of anything in 2012.

    In four years, people will realize that it was the Demo's policies that messed up the economy and they will be unhappy that Obama's policies haven't fixed anything, and then Romney will have a shot. The Evangelicals will be more likely to overlook his LDS faith at that point, although it will still be a factor that could derail him.

  • Mitt is LDS??? WOW!!!
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:54 p.m.

    'The contribution from Romney, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is "completely unconnected" to the church's own involvement in the issue, Fehrnstrom said.'

    Mitt and the LDS Church "completely unconnected"??? Only LDS folk would want the rest of us to believe that Mitt takes no notice of what his Church Leaders say!! Yeah right..................

  • true blue
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:47 p.m.

    Palin will not be the GOP nominee for 2012. Huckabee will make another run, and some unknowns.

  • To: Dave O
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:41 p.m.

    You fail to understand that Mormons use their faith and values to choose their party, not using their party affiliation to shape their values. Until you and others like you get it, you just won't understand the way Mormons vote.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:36 p.m.

    David O is right. The right hates Mormons, so don't get your hopes up. Palin? Heaven help us!

  • CliftonClyde
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:34 p.m.

    Could not agree more with David O and I am speaking as a non LDS individual. Mitt Romney would have been an excellent candidate for President or Vice President this year. It wasn't his qualifications that kept him off the ticket but his religion. The Republicans are going down in flames in 2008 and part of the reason is their religious intolerance.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:26 p.m.

    Mormons already realize the base of the Democratic party hates them: (1) God-fearing, (2) traditional marriage, (3) self-reliance instead of government-dependence, etc. You might say that the current Republican party is the lesser of the two evils. The problems began when the Southern Democrats started taking over the Republican party to promote their big government "conservative" social agenda.

  • David O
    Oct. 27, 2008 7:07 p.m.

    Mormons need to realize that the base of the Republican party hates them and thinks Mormonism is a cult despite the Christian beliefs. This is the way to keep people like Romney out of power. Romney would have been a great VP candidate for Mccain. It would have answered the what to do about the financial crisis where Romney has the most experience. But Alas, the anti Mormon evangelical base dislikes Mormons but this state will once again go Republican to a party that tolerates them like broccoli.

  • Steven's Conviction
    Oct. 27, 2008 6:38 p.m.

    The Ted Steven's conviction is probably the last nail in the coffin for the GOP this year. It just looks bad...real bad.