Legislators trim $272 million from current spending
It is completely insane how the legislators receive $120 per diem per day. Who
on earth needs $40 per meal every day? When cutting budgets, why not cut their
per diem in half and they will still eat better than most of us! I would also
bet that they are not receiving any other cuts at all.
To: Avoid CompulsionHere is my answer to your question:I love to teach.My "call" is as simple as that.
I wish I hadn't read most of this thread. I didn't know how hated I was as a
member of the "Liberal Teachers' Union."I love my students and work
very hard to give them my best each and every day. I am a single mom and every
month I wonder if we are going to make it. I pay almost $300 out of pocket per
month for my gold-plated benefits and would love to teach in a school district
where teachers are getting $90K - $100K a year. I guess I am tired
of being blamed for teenagers who can't read, do basic math, drive drunk, take
drugs and get themselves pregnant and everything else that is wrong with society
and that I am a whiner when I want better conditions in public schools.Never-the-less, I will continue to work 12-14 hour days, doing grading and
preparing lessons at home after I finish my contract time. And I will continue
care about what the 178 students who come through my classroom door will learn
this year and what kind of adults they will become. If I don't - who will?
Certainly not the politicians on the hill.
I used to be one of those people who thought what a great deal teachers
have.....weekends off, summers off, every holiday off, good benefits....Then I
decided to volunteer more and more at my children's schools. What an eye
opening experience. I have gained a great deal of respect for those who spend
their day educating my children. They EARN every dime and are very under
As teacher with a Masters degree who has taught for almost 25 years,I would be
VERY interested in a district that pays $90,000-$100,000. Please name the
district!! In my district administrators typically earn that, but those in the
"trenches" dealing day to day with the children will never earn that even with a
PhD and 35 years of experience. As for medical, each year it costs me more
out of pocket with less benefits. My neighbor who works in the private sector
pays much less per month for his and has truly "gold plated benefits". I
generally work 10-12 hours each school day and roughly 6-10 more on weekends. I
am not the exception! I work a part time job during the summer but manage to put
around 20 hours each week ALL summer to be prepared for my students come Fall. I
love what I do, but tire of ignorant comments from individuals who happen to
know a slacker teacher or think they know what real teachers do. Please
Republican 6:34pm and Just a lowly taxpayer 1:24pm spend some time in the
schools with a great teacher!!
as a lowly school teacher with 20 years experience, I make less than half what
the "teachers in your district" apparently make. What district is that? I want
to work there. Maybe I could afford a nice car like I see students drive instead
of my 16 year old truck. LOL! My students are younger than my truck! And
"gold-plated benefits?" Are you kidding? We have about the worst medical money
can buy! My insurance hasn't even kicked in from last year - we haven't met our
enormous deductible yet.And my time off? I spend the summer working
for tips so I can make it through the next winter, paying for two kids in
college and a missionary. Maybe you should check facts before you
start running your mouth. Check the site Anonymous refers to.Regurgitating what you hear from others does not show a lot of critical
thinking about the subject. Oh wait, that's what Utah (Republican Legislature)
wants - kids who can regurgitate information on standardized tests. That makes
us all accountable...but that's another subject.
I heard on the radio that the legislators were unhappy that they had to drop
everything and attend the special session. Some were in the middle of
campaigning, some had to leave work...others had to cancel vacations. Poor
legislators...I feel sorry for them..maybe we should do them a favor by
replacing each and every one of them....Then it won't be such a burdon for them.
If you don't like public schools go to private schools. If you put
"utah's right to know" in google or similar search engine you'll find a site
that gives the salaries of all State employees. Including teachers. A quick
check show the higher the degree and longest tenure make good money. That's the
same as most workplaces. And no, I'm not a teacher, and feel a 4%
reduction in the school systems would not affect people as strongly as other
measures taken. We are in this together and education needs to contribute their
When you use the power of the police state to force me to do something against
my will you are the one initiating the war and creating warring factions. Leave
me free to choose for myself and we will likely find many opportunities to
cooperate. Right now the government-run school establishment has launched war on
the taxpayers of the state. We have every right and responsibility to defend
ourselves from this assault.Now you know who started the war, the
question is whether you will stand down or whether your will continue to battle
for complete and total domination. As a teacher, it's your call.
As a regular public school teacher in Utah, I'm very grateful for the benefits
that I receive. Even though my monthly premium doubled this year, and my
monthly out of pocket cost for prescription drugs is now up to $276.00 I know
that it could be a lot worse. I, along with most Americans, stay awake some
nights and worry about making it to the end of the month--but we always figure
out a way.I don't really understand why some would want to take
benefits away from others. Surely the greatest, most successful country in the
history of our planet can figure out a way to spread benefits to MORE Americans
and not less.I also don't really think benefits are a government vs.
private issue. My brother works for the LDS Church (private) and his benefits
(insurance, retirement, etc.) are far better than mine. I am happy for him. He
has a young family and it gives me great comfort to know that a medical
situation won't destroy his family financially.Can't we all work
together instead of pulling apart into selfish and bitter warring factions?
Where are the underpaid teachers? We have public school teachers making $90-100K
per year in our district with gold-plated benefits those in the private sector
could only dream of (100% paid health insurance, rich pension allowing early
retirement). I'd hardly call that underpaid. We have administrators making
almost $150-200K per year plus lots of perks.Of course, many teacher
work part-time and are paid part-time salaries. Teach more classes+ work the
summer = get more money.But who am I? Just a lowly taxpayer trying
to make ends meet.
Let's put Schools on the 4 day week, too. That should save more money under the
4 day money saving theory.
Then we should cut all your benefits and pay you half of what you make. Lead by
example instead of putting it on someone else. I can tell you're a real
"Chirstian" by your disdain for the people who educate the younger generation.
I see nothing Christian in anything you wrote. Quit being enamored with yourself
and your money. In the end it will be your downfall.
Hey, Cut the Bennies, at the corporation I work for, there are no separate
buckets for Sick Leave and Vacation Leave. Instead, there is just one bucket
called "Paid Time Off". Thus, time off earned can be used for any purpose -- no
doctors notes needed when you are sick. But there is a maximum cap on how much
Paid Time Off you can acrue, so it is common where I work for employees to be
forced to take a day off even if they do not want to because otherwise they
would be over the maximum.My understanding is that the system my
corporation has is now the norm, so if the business you own still has separate
buckets of vacation time and sick leave, perhaps the problem you have retaining
employees is due not to the state government being too generous to employees,
but your company being too miserly.
The "liberal teacher union", as you label them, is actually made up of thousands
of hard working, conservative teachers who donate numerous hours each night and
weekend to prepare lessons and grade papers. Without their "liberal union" they
would probably be working for free during the day as well.
Isn't it wonderful when people, who have no clue about what they are talking
about, make simple minded comments? They simply show their ignorance. First
of all, there is no difference between what "union" teachers and "non union"
teachers are paid. Utah is a "right to work" state. Secondly, Utah is already
dead last in per pupil funding. Cutting the benefits, which teachers in every
other state are given, would drive away the rest of our dedicated teachers and
make it impossible to compete with other states in hiring new teachers.
Thirdly, most of these "part time" teachers spend many hours at night, on
weekends, and during their vacation time preparing lessons and taking classes to
improve their teaching skills (at their own expense). Get your facts straight.
And, by the way, you should be embarrassed to title yourself a Christian with
such unChristian like comments.
We can't keep cutting the road budgets and expect any where close to the same
service. Wake up government.
How can we have a short fall when accoring to the news and the state there is a
500 million dollar surplus? Answer me that one.
It is amazing to read the disdain for teachers on this thread. How do you think
your kids will get educated so that can get into the local community college or
BYU? Do you think they magically educate themselves? I see my kids' teachers
working very hard to teach my children in the local public school, and I really
respect what they do to inspire my kids! People squawk that we're losing
domestic jobs to better educated, lower-paid foreign workers. Well, if we truly
cared about future employment in this country, we'd support our schools to
prepare our kids to become creative entrepreneurs to establish local businesses,
provide local jobs to our educated work force, and move Utah into the 21st
century's high tech industries. Instead, we poo poo our schools and teachers
and wonder why our kids can't compete in world markets. Education is the engine
of this nation's economy. Without it, Utah will continue to be hobbled by the
limited economic opportunities for our children. I'm very pleased that our
legislators kept education unharmed in the current budget cuts! Utah now needs
to create incentives to bring the best and brightest teachers to serve our kids!
Bonding is not that bad of an idea. The state still holds a 500 million "rainy
day fund". In times like this you need to help people eat, have a
shelter over their heads, and get needed medical care. Ps. 10:2
"wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor." Is taking an
alternate route or spending 5 minutes extra in traffic that big of price to pay?
From trophy homes to fitting the camel through the eye of the needle
we will soon learn the metal of our leaders.
Did you really say not cutting education was "a huge relief to our children?" OH
my..I am so sure The average third grader was really worried...What you meant to
say was "The liberal teacher union us very relieved."
The Legislature's budget took the same size cut as everyone elses not to mention
they cut their pay.
Public education was held harmless last budget downturn (2002) also.
Get you head out of the sand or where ever it is buried, Phil. Roads are just as
much about people, if not more. Us working folks who pay the taxes also have to
pay for gas when stuck on the freeways. I bet Phil didn't even have an
alternative proposal for the legislature. He probably did the classic democratic
approach -- go whine to the media but bring nothing productive to the debate.
The also held themselves harmless.
As a good EVANGELICAL CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN, I say cut the education
budget. Cutting the education budget will save money as well as cost all those
union teachers their jobs. Hire the non-union teachers back with half the
salary and no benefits. There is no reason to pay benefits to people who only
work barely 9 months per year. I know this won't take care of the whole problem
but it will be a good start.
There is so much waste in government. I get so mad when I'm golfing in the
middle of the day with a government worker who is using a sick day, or have so
many accrued they have to use them. As a self employed person I pay $1000 per
month for health insurance why do I have to pay for gov. workers benefits. They
all brag about how little they have to do. And they are living for their
retirement. Cut the bennies believe me they won't bail. I've hired a few who
want to make more money and they don't last in the private sector, Where there
is accountability and 10 minutes breaks.
Of course they will hold public education harmless -- it's an election year!
Thank you for not cutting any budgets in public education. That is a huge relief
for our kids.
Candice is my favorite!
Phil Riesen, D-Holladay has it all wrong. We can not borrow our way out of the
problem.This attitude of bonding and spending money we do not have is the
problem at the federal leval. No one in their right mind would want to mock that
situation. Cuts hurt sometimes but they are needed.
Why dont we get rid of the lazy people in office who are making too much and not
even lifting a finger or get down right dirty........ instead of cutting cost
of highwaypatrol or medicaid or even schools there plenty too go around?? what
we paying taxes for........