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  • Otago
    Dec. 7, 2008 11:26 p.m.

    A Texas Fan.
    Stayed on a marae did they, so why did they not bother to learn some grammar of Reo(Maori) ?
    Values,you are wrong if you believe the average rugby player around the world does not partake in alcohol, tobacco, and young women given have half a chance.
    The values they were pushing in that film were Mormon values.
    Same as that coach trying to kid people that a Maori kamatua of the Ngati Toa was in Utah for the filming.
    Sid Going may be a good Mormon but a kaumatua of the Ngati Toa he is not.
    So who EXACTLY gave a Utah rugby club the right to use Te Kamate ?
    Which kamatua ?

  • A Texas Fan
    Nov. 20, 2008 11:08 a.m.

    My son's High School rugby club (The Katy, Texas Barbarians) played them in the national championship. They are very very good. We are fortunate to have clubs like theirs and I hope this movie promotes more of the values they showed in the film. The only criticism I have is the stereotypical depiction of Rugby. I played both Football and Rugby in college and of the two Rugby was more challenging, more rewarding and much safer than football. I wish the movie took the time to make the distinction that pads and helmets are not just protection, they are also weapons in football. The rules and training to play Rugby are designed to keep the players safe. I know it's hard to understand when you watch the game, but I wish the movie tried to explain it. A missed opportunity to promote a really great sport.

  • otago
    Sept. 26, 2008 10:04 p.m.

    This is NOT a religious film. Just because it was filmed in UT and has values does not make it religious. Furthermore, I know the team has stayed in the Papakura Marae on successive trips so as to learn about and show respect to the Maori culture which is such a big influence on this game and has many wonderful things to teach.

  • Re: Otago
    Sept. 26, 2008 9:58 p.m.

    Please educate yourself before posting here. 1: Highland competes for the U19 H.S. Championship with other multi-school clubs. 2: Highland toured NZ this summer and, after narrowly losing to Wesley College (after leading most of the game), beat St. Kentigren 46-10. Highland has toured NZ twice before, going 5-1 both tours. Granted, they would not compete with a school like Hamilton Boys, but do pretty dang good for a bunch of yanks playing the game for 1 or 2 years. 3: Highland's Haka has strong NZ roots, and is respected by those in NZ who know the program because they take care to teach it the right way, with respect to the Maori history and culture. Coach Gelwix learned the game in NZ and still has roots there. Yes, the film is a bit cheesy (That's Hollywood) but the program is serious, successful, and extremely well-respected for the positive impact it makes in kids' lives (which is what the movie is about).

  • otago
    Sept. 26, 2008 9:03 p.m.

    Well, after watching the trailer I have finished wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes.
    Why the poor attempt at the haka Te Kamate, they were given permission by whom, which Iwi or Hapu ?
    Kia kaha is forever strong, in the Queen's English the translation is be/stay strong, but what would a NZ Maori know.
    Oh dear, they must grow a lot of corn in Utah.
    If Highland is a club and not a school team why do they take part in international high school competitions ?
    Might I suggest playing the NZ U19
    Sorry, but this seems to be a religious film with a slight rugby backdrop.

  • Information Judy
    Sept. 26, 2008 10:57 a.m.

    To: Not here in Tulsa - you're right, but it is showing at the Bricktown 16 in Oklahoma. (I used to live in Bethany and still keep in touch with old friends who are excited about seeing it there). Make a day of it and enjoy!

  • Mr. Bass.
    Sept. 26, 2008 9:07 a.m.

    Your sardonic tone is refreshingly new and progressive. Your talents should be represented somewhere more visible than the DesNews boards. I lament you have gone unnoticed for so long. It's surprising no one has offered you some lucrative deal in film, tv, or radio.

  • Not here in Tulsa
    Sept. 26, 2008 7:31 a.m.

    Probably no chance of seeing this movie, here in the self-proclaimed "belt buckle" of the Bible Belt. The theaters I've checked have never heard of it. (The theater managers probably heard rumors of a mormon connection.)
    But hey, we could go to "Choke", which is opening today. Now I ask you, why would anyone want to go to an uplifting film, as "Forever Strong" is reported to be, when we could go to a movie about "a destitute sex addict, who pretends to choke at upscale restaurants"?????

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Sept. 25, 2008 11:02 p.m.

    I just love these heart-warming stories. I can really feel the spirit in movies like this and know how wonderfully blessed we are.

  • Impressed
    Sept. 25, 2008 10:42 p.m.

    Saw the movie tonight at the premier at Jordan Commons (thanks Deseret Book!) and loved it! By far the best of the locally derived movies. Inspiring message about relationships and accountability that uses rugby as a background. If only all coaches were as wise and dedicated as coach Gelwix. Wish my sons had had a chance to play for him!
    I'll see the movie again - with my family and then buy the DVD at Deseret Book as soon as it is available.
    I recommend it highly to any and all.

  • Wrong Facts
    Sept. 25, 2008 9:28 p.m.

    Great review, I've seen the movie and LOVE it! But, a couple things that were incorrect. It is Highland Rugby club, NOT Highland High School Rugby. The program has no affiliation with the high school, and have not since the current principal decided to end that relationship by not allowing the team to pay for rental of the practice field they had always used. This was 3 years ago.
    Furthermore, the team is not portrayed in a fictional light. This movie combines true stories of over 25 years of the program into one season, so while all these things did not happen all at once, they did all happen.
    Thank you for the good and well-deserved review, but please, for future reference, correct the name of the team and take the 'high' out of the name

  • mei
    Sept. 25, 2008 7:07 p.m.

    I saw this movie a few months ago and I loved it! It's really inspiring.

  • Anonymous
    Sept. 25, 2008 6:16 p.m.

    funny because i was reading some out of state reviews on this movie and all weren't saying too much good.

  • Rugby NIMBY
    Sept. 25, 2008 5:51 p.m.

    When rugby was played briefly in the mid 90's at Valley Regional Park in Taylorsville the neighborhood objected to the ruffian element of the rugby players and crowd. So an attempt was made to build some rugby fields in West Jordan next to the soccer fields. Before the fields were finished, again, the neighbors and the city said we don't want THEM in our neighborhood. Finally fields were constructed in Murray at the old fairgrounds. There was some initial resistance but the mayor stood up for rugby and they play there today. Larry Gelwix is a great man who has molded many fine players and young men. Hope the movie is as successful as Highland's rugby team.