Suffer under no illusions...the "government" is in the spirit of giving during
the upcoming vote buying season. Bureaucrats know that when their election
candidates are weak (Obama is about as presidential in manner and speech as a
deflated beach ball) and they see another election slipping away, they can
always try to improve their election victory odds by buying us off with our hard
earned money. Who knows perhaps even a few of the more gullible amongst the
"ignorant masses" will fail to see through this ruse and actually vote for the
party promoting the giveaway.The campaign phiolsophy of both
parties....make poor decisions contrary to the "common good"...decisions that
enrich oneself, family, friends, curry favor with cronies and special interests
who you've sold out to cheap (you get money/favors and they get big money/big
favors in return).When running for elected office candidates amass
millions to win jobs that pay paltry salaries. Clearly there are alternate
payments in kind somewhere else eh?Don't get me wrong - we have the
greatest system in the world, it's just that to even the most casual observer
government, on all levels, needs mandatory periodic housecleaning.Tis the season!
Ohhh more freebies from the government.The government must love me
more than rich people.
Not a zero sum game, I'm sorry if my prior statement was not clear as I don't
think you understood what I said. The New Deal accomplished a lot, as you
rightly state, but when unemployment was still at 14%, you cannot say it ended
the depression.The point of my statement was that FDR's New Deal did
not end the depression, WWII did. I said nothing about the amount of work done
by the public works projects because they did not end the depression; the
depression and its end being the topics under discussion.I agree
that FDR's New Deal produced a lot in the way of public projects that were of
benefit then, and some of which continue to benefit us. I did give FDR credit
for stopping a Russian style decline into communism. We are not in as much
disagreement as perhaps you would wish.
lost in DC. I love people with no knowledge of history. What did the New Deal
accomplish? It built roads, dams, documented an anthology of American music and
employed writers who documented America.Can I mention Juanita Brooks
here? She was part of a government works project. Any Utahan with a Mormon past
should read" Quicksand and cactus" She wrote about Dudley Leavitt, Jacob Hamblin
and others.Back to Damns. The power from the New Deal Bonneville
Project produced the Aluminum that manufactured American aircraft for World War
II.I'm the liberal that wrote telling my representatives to keep
their $600.Roosevelt feared a revolution like the Russian revolt.
Part of the New Deal was to defuse panic. Defusing panic keep the communist at
Milo P. Otis, I would argue that FDR's policies did not end the depression, as
"re:Milo P Otis" said, it was WWII that took unemployment to 2%. What FDR's
policies did do was take us far enough down the road to socialism that the
wobblies and others of their ilk couldn't push us to the failed concept of
Marxism and communism.
Congress has been in the hands of democrat majority since Nov. 2006 and only
now are they starting to think about doing something about this wretched
economy? It's laughable to see what the lobbyists are getting through via these
democrats congressman and senators. Their agenda is lightyears away from the
urgent and pressing issues which are given major lip service by both
presidential candidates. Has their ploy been to do nothing, blame Bush and take
the White house in 2008? Looks that way to me. This two party system isn't
workin' for us.
Hooray, more proof that BOTH parties are out of touch and more than a bit
crazy.Get the incumbents out! We need a dose of common sense, and
neither of the big parties' leaders will provide it.
Whether the New Deal actually worked or not is debatable. Some of the policies
were great, while some were so outrageous they worsened the situation or were
ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. I do find it interesting to note
that unemployment in 1940 was still at 14%, and it took the war effort over the
next three years to lower it to 2%.Personally, I'd rather see the
government try to make a thoughtout decision instead of a stopgap that continues
to add to the deficit, and therefore continues to weaken the dollar, increase
Hate to say this but I don't see any $600 check making any difference in our
economic woes.Too many people.Not enough good jobs.Cheaper
manufacturing done in 3rd World countries.
Bob G., well said.Since Bushs stimulus package gave only a
short-term boost to the economy, we can debate whether or not stimulus packages
even work.But leaving that debate aside, lets look at the different
approach to stimulus packages. Bushs package allowed us, the taxpayers, decide
how we were going to spend the money the government took from us in the first
place (along with money they borrowed from China). The dems want the government
to decide how that money is spent. Bush we decide, dems government
decides.Personally, Id rather spend my stimulus money on my family
than have some politician who is beholden to various special interest groups put
it into the pockets of his campaign contributors.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt's "New Deal" was designed to stimulate the economy of
1933 to 1938. It was designed to help the poor, revive the economy.
Interestingly enough, the Roosevelt administration sought banking reform - sound
familiar?If you want to know more, look it up: New Deal on
Wikipedia. It (The Democratic plan) worked once, it can work again.
Re: "Bob G".....Is this a great country, or what?
Instead of government borrowing more money to give to americans they should be
asking why we aren't spending and find a solution for it. The reason we aren't
spending is because we don't have the money. And why don't we have the money to
spend? Stagnent wages, inflation, corporate profiteering with massive profits,
higher taxes on stagnent wages, and low paying jobs that the illegals have
actively subversed by being activly employed and preferential job
discrimination. Illegal aliens have crushed jobs for americans and fair pay with
pay raises to stay up with inflation. Illegal aliens and employers not paying
taxes on income for social programs like the IRS and the SSA as well as state
income taxes. The illega mexicans are living in a freebie lifestyle where
government is treating them as if they deserve all that the american people
spend their lives working for. The illegal mexicans think we owe them a
socialistic form of free and untaxed services. American workers are treated as
second class 3rd world workers where business and government are destroying the
american dream for the american people. Getting rid of illegals in the workforce
and deporting them would stimulate economic growth.
This Keynesian economics approach to economic weakness has been tried too many
times without any real success. Spending tax dollars in the fictitious
"government multiplier" only adds debt but doesn't actually correct weakness.
Being a liberal; lets not rush into a big spending solution just yet. I don't
want to mimic selfish conservatives. That think this out first. I've witnessed
eight years of mindless politics.