Palin critics switch sides?

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  • Gig
    Sept. 7, 2008 10:42 p.m.

    Bush was elected and defeated McCain in 2000 based on his character smears and also portaying himself as one of the guys. Repub spinters are taking the same approach with Palin. Lets get her up in front of crowds with her charm and home town Mayberry stories and also use her denigrate Obama in the same breath. We had 8 years of this! can we afford 4 or 8 more?

  • PJ
    Sept. 7, 2008 10:35 p.m.

    @5:58 -

    Why would she need to go on a circuit? She can win without it.

  • wrz
    Sept. 7, 2008 10:30 p.m.

    Grimble | 5:00 p.m. ----

    "You give Palin too much credit by suggesting she actually HAS any stances on foreign policy."

    Here's Obama's stance on foreign policy, for the record:

    -- Sit down with terrorists without preconditions.

    -- Pull troops from Iraq just before victory.

    "That's why she's in an undisclosed location right now to cram for her V.P. debate with the very knowledgeable Biden -- as if she were cramming for the SAT test."

    Biden might be knowledgeable but his's often wrong.

    "That's also why the McCain camp is openly admitting that they are shielding her from the press."

    If she is being shielded it's from the sharks of the liberal media who would like eat her for lunch.

    "Also, I think it's important to note that it wasn't the Democrats or liberals that brought Bristol into this, it was Palin's camp..."

    You guys are too funny. If Bristol were not brought out you would claim Palin was hiding something.

  • Freddie
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:58 p.m.

    agnostic @ 8:38 a.m. said: >>>>Out-of wedlock births are so cool! That is why I'm voting for the out-of-wedlock party!

  • wrz
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:51 p.m.

    Mike Ridgway | 5:32 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008

    "Actually, no less a radical feminist then Dr. Laura Schlessinger is suggesting that Sarah Palin come back home to her kids who need a full-time parent in their lives, as a quick visit to her web site will confirm."

    Dr. Laura is more wrong than right... on any number of issues.

  • regarding no Palin on ...
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:05 p.m.

    liberal media news programs. Well, you better beware of what you wish for. The American people might just fall in love with the down home, no nonsence VP Palin.

  • Isn't it odd?
    Sept. 7, 2008 5:58 p.m.

    No Palin on the Sunday morning news show circuit. Why are they keeping her under wraps?

  • Grimble
    Sept. 7, 2008 5:00 p.m.

    To "To: MEB | 4:40":

    You give Palin too much credit by suggesting she actually HAS any stances on foreign policy. She just got her first passport in 2007 and has zero foreign policy experience and very little knowledge. That's why she's in an undisclosed location right now to cram for her V.P. debate with the very knowledgeable Biden -- as if she were cramming for the SAT test. That's also why the McCain camp is openly admitting that they are shielding her from the press.

    Also, I think it's important to note that it wasn't the Democrats or liberals that brought Bristol into this, it was Palin's camp, to circumvent a rumor brewing in a tabloid. It was Palin who decided to parade Bristol and Levi around on stage, and thereby tell all our teens that teen pregnancy aint all that bad and long as you preach family values loud enough.

  • To: MEB
    Sept. 7, 2008 4:40 p.m.

    What are Sarah Palin's strenghts? I am not sure what strengths you are speaking of, so let me take a few guesses.

    Is it Sarah Palin's vision for a homogenous chrtisan america, where all descent to her world view will be considered not only anti-american, but satanic.

    Could it be her run as mayor of wasila, where she introuduced wedge politics, and fired dedicated public servants who had done nothing wrong.

    Could it be the fact that she comes from one of the most politically corrupt states in the Union.

    Or, maybe it is her illogical stance on everything from foriegn policy, to sex education.

    I really have no idea what her strenths, here are a few that I thought you may have been talking about. By the way,congrats on reading David McColough's "John Adams", what a stirring read written by a psuedo historian.

  • Gus Talwynd
    Sept. 7, 2008 3:07 p.m.

    The letter writer is suffering from a convenient loss of memory on this issue. The argument of Sarah Palin's relationship with her family is arising from within the Right Wing of the Republican Party.

    The only criticism is that there is an obvious disconnect between the so-called core values of the Republican Party and the situation in which they now find themselves. A culture that heretofore argued that a mother have primary focus on children and family now finds itself with a young mother who aspires to a political career.

    This adjustment will take her from the traditional, Republican-supported role into a situation more in tune with Democrats who nominated a woman for VP almost two decades ago.

    Oh, yes. The "barefoot and pregnant" metaphor is more appropo to those reading this thread who believe a wife and mother should remain at home regardless of financial circumstance. It certainly is not the view of this writer.

  • Duff
    Sept. 7, 2008 2:24 p.m.

    The country "needs Sarah Palins strength and leadership"! Zingers do not leadership make. Zingers are childish and devoid of seriousness. Now, on the other hand, that voice could shatter the eardrums of an army of democrats. What a weapon!

  • Enough
    Sept. 7, 2008 11:05 a.m.

    A lot of folks are giving credit to Gov Palin for being pro-life due in part to the fact that her daughter will carry the baby to full term. If in fact Gov Palin is getting credit for the positive decision of her daughter, then Gov Palin should get the equal condemnation for the negative action of her daughter.

    As it is unfair for Gov Palin to be blamed for her daughter getting pregnant, it is also unfair for Gov Palin to receive credit for her daughter deciding to have the baby. This decision does not necessarily prove that Gov Palin is pro-life. Leave the daughter's decisions - all of them - out of any judgment of Gov Palin.

  • MEB
    Sept. 7, 2008 10:29 a.m.

    Mike - I saw Dr. Laura's opposition to Palin's nomination the other day. While I think Dr. Laura has done, and continues to do, great things, I don't agree with Dr. Laura on several fronts. One of them is on the Sarah Palin issue.

    There are many substitutes for a mother in the home, but none is as good as the real thing. Having a loving mother raise her kids has been shown in a multitude of studies to have the most positive effect on children.

    That being said, there are times that our country needs the service of great people. There have been many times in the past that great people have sacrificed personal benefits and comfort for the greater good of the nation. Was John Adams being a good dad when he accepted the assignment to be this countries diplomat to France, and then later to England? It was hard on his family to be without their father for years. It was hard on Abigail to be away from her husband, and raise that family on her own, but it was for the greater good.

    This country needs Sarah Palin's strength and leadership now.

  • Anonymous
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:58 a.m.

    I am voting Obama/Biden. She makes this choice even more correct for me.

  • Grimble
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:00 a.m.

    Between the Palin's shotgun wedding reception on the stage of the GOP convention, McCain's adultery, and his subsequent funding of his political career with his mistress's beer money, the hypocrisy of the "Family Values" party is turning into over-the-top self-parody.

    Meanwhile, on the Democratic ticket you have two honorable husbands and fathers with families we could all emulate.

    But because in Utah party partisanship trumps all other values, IOKIYAR: It's Okay If You're A Republican.

    Can you imagine if the democratic candidate had left his first wife for a beer heiress half his age, and if his VP had paraded his pregnant teen daughter and her baby-daddy around on stage? The Republicans would be wailing in a unison chorus of moral outrage.

    Republicans appear to favor those who preach family values the loudest over those who actually live them the fullest.

  • GeeBee
    Sept. 7, 2008 9:02 a.m.

    The party of "smaller government" is preaching to us? The same one that wants to reach into the uterus, the bedroom, and bail out the corporations? Smaller government indeed.

  • To Mr. Ridgeway
    Sept. 7, 2008 8:46 a.m.

    Sounds like you and Dr. Laura will be voting for Obama then. Did it every occur to you that while Gov. Pallen is VP her husband might be the full time parent? I'm glad you and Dr. L. know the governor's situation better than she does.

  • agnostic
    Sept. 7, 2008 8:38 a.m.

    Out-of wedlock births are so cool! That is why I'm voting for the out-of-wedlock party!

  • Mike Richards
    Sept. 7, 2008 8:10 a.m.

    What it means is that the Democrats know that they have no one on their ticket that can speak to Americans about the American values of letting a baby live, even if he isn't perfect, of letting a baby live, even if a family member made a mistake, of firing the cook, because a family can handle the simple duties of cooking, or of firing corrupt "public servants" because the citizens deserve better. The Democrats have no one who can empathize with small town America, with the heart and mind of America. The Democrats finally realized that Sarah Palin stands for all those principles that Americans for generations have held dear. The Democrats have finally learned that Americans don't want to hear the huff and puff, the fluffy rhetoric from someone who wants to change America into a socialist European or African country, but they want to be led by an American with American values who lives the American life.

  • Robert Johnson
    Sept. 7, 2008 7:16 a.m.

    Your attempt at spin here shows a lack of effort.

    The reality is, Palin simply shows the hypocrisy of the right-wing. They love to preach about "family values" and speak to everyone else about having their house in order, when in reality, they don't have control over their own households.

    What the GOP needs to understand is that words without conviction is just empty rhetoric. Something that the OP should come to understand.

  • Mike Ridgway
    Sept. 7, 2008 5:32 a.m.

    Actually, no less a radical feminist then Dr. Laura Schlessinger is suggesting that Sarah Palin come back home to her kids who need a full-time parent in their lives, as a quick visit to her web site will confirm.

    On this, I, a conservative Utah Republican, (and Mormon, if it matters), must concur.

    Mike Ridgway
    Former member, Utah Republican Party Executive Committee, Central Committee, Salt Lake County Republican Party Executive Committee, Central Committee, current Republican State and County Delegate.
    Salt Lake City

  • Anonymous
    Sept. 7, 2008 5:22 a.m.

    Who is suggesting Sarah Palin stay home, barefoot and pregnant? She is the Governor of Alaska, and I have not seen anyone, particular Obama, suggest she should give that up.

  • JTM
    Sept. 7, 2008 12:59 a.m.

    And the party that is always judgmental toward others' morality simply turns their head when it's one of "their people"

  • And?
    Sept. 7, 2008 12:45 a.m.

    Us liberals are fine with women in the White House. We supported the Equal Rights Amendment. We even like you stealing sexist and sexism from liberalism. We were humored by the hypocrisy. In reality, we expect it.

    Watching McCain get back at Mitt was wonderful!