Add one more Mormon who has the greatest respect for Harry Reid.
The ultimate stupidity was embracing George Bush for 8 looooong years. And Utah
is not over their love affair with him yet. Talk about embracing stupidity.
I know that lefties sometimes have trouble connecting the dots, so let me help
you out. No need to go on and on with your overused and under inspired concepts
and opinions. The letter writer makes a couple of very valid statements, that
don't go into great detail, but are easy for most people to understand if you
don't live in a fog. First he refers to Harry Ried. The guy is a baffoon and a
fool. I could not be more pleased that he is not a republican, because he cannot
come up with one original thought, and I believe he is in competition for being
the dimmest person in Senate history. Next the letter writer refers
to all the things that Democrats love, but often try to deny. Taxes, Phony
Overzealous Environmentalism, Massive Governmental Spending on Socialistic
Programs that are Ripe with Corruption and Waste, and last but not least -
Abortion on Demand. Yes, occasionally a few Republicans have foolishly fallen
for this idiocy. I can't believe that "Stupid Is..." can even try to make his
claims, because everything he tries to renounce in his statement, is exactly
what Dems. and Lefties love and embrace.
I'm inclined to agree with paperlake (2:40). To add to this, if you think that
McCain IS NOT going to raise taxes, then think again. BOTH raise taxes, just at
different socioeconomic groups. McCain shifts it back to the middle-class which
creates the bigger socio-economic divide (in other words, increases poverty of
the middle-class), whereas Obama repeals many of Bush's taxes which the majority
went to the very rich people (I didn't benefit from that cut no matter how "all
American" statement they imply, it won't happen).
You said that republicans are on a short leash. Was it the republicans who
voted out one of their own (even a former VP candidate) for disagreeing with the
party line on just one issue? Don't talk to me about a short leash.
Don't embrace stupidity?Are we talking about those people who were
warned not to support the Cheney/Bush monsters yet voted for them anyway?We progressives tried to warn you.
re: thomasunless you make more than $250,000 a year the demos said
they would not tax you more. I ask wich is more responsible, to tax people with
money and pay off national debt and pay as you go or cut taxes for the rich and
pile on the debt while not paying for anything as you go? I think the chinese
would prefer the republicans for a while so they can lend us more money, some
day they might like the demos to take charge so that the dollar is worth enough
for us to ever have a chance at paying them back. I for one am tired of the lie
that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs. I have been fed that line since I
was a teenager and it always smells like a line from a used car salesman. I am
no economic expert but it seems to me that the only time our economy booms is
after congress pays down a national debt and the dollar is worth enough to allow
for employers to give larger raises to middle an lower class folks enabling the
consumer base to buy more.
If you want to see that what I said above is true about the liberal view of
religion, just read the blog posted by "Stupid is, what..." This is the typical
liberal Democrat view of religion and religious people. Of course, this blogger
has completely distorted and misrepresented religion and it's belief's and
positions but, that's beside the point.If you want to know which
party disdains and hates religion in general, look to the Democrats. So,
please, don't be fooled by their cynical attempts to convince voters that they
are spiritual people of faith. For the most part, it's fraud.
Well, Thomas, even a little bit, opens the door to virtually limitless access
and intrusions. Where is the line drawn? Liberties need to be safeguarded, but
we can't do away all in the name of war. That goes against every principle this
country was founded upon.
Religion told its believers the sun circled earth. the earth is 10,000 years
old, dinosaurs walked with man, lightning rods intervened with god's judgment
and that using anything to relieve pain during labor stopped god's punishment
for original sin.I can see why religion hates knowledge.I'm a
happy democrat. No more Mitt!!Conservatives are a blessing. They
show the value of education. I love the conservative. I just have little time
for stupidity in the information age.I rejected gun control
arguments when semi automatics were being passed off as automatics. This turned
this liberal against the assault weapons ban.I can be a liberal and
question. When you're conservative your a dog on a short leash. You must say
with the talking points, read only conservative authors, watch only Fox News.
You intellectually might as well be in a one party state. On the
count of three.....we are all individuals!
To ECR: You didn't refute or even address anything that I stated in my last
blog. What I stated about Harry Reid, and the Democrats, is factual. Personally, I like Harry Reid although I don't agree with him. In fact, we
used to say "hello" to each other in the halls of Congress every day. He's a
good decent man.I am also saddened by the fact that many
evangelicals have a distorted and incorrect view of Mormons. That may take a
lot of time to correct. However, I think that Mitt Romney has gone a long way
in helping to dispel some of those misconceptions.Back to my
original point--the far-left of the Democrat Party (which has pretty much taken
over the mainstream of that party) disdains and disparages religion in general.
Please don't be duped by their attempts to lay claim to the religious vote.
Harry Reid's ascendancy to Senate Democrat Leader was mostly a cynicals move on
the part of the Democrats to hide the truth about where most of them stand on
religion. Most of them think religion is a joke and religious people are
STUPID. ECR: Sorry if the TRUTH offends you.
Peperlake --"and you really believe that the demos will tax and
spend more than Bush did"?Well, yes. They've said they will.
Barack Obama has promised a net tax increase, and has proposed enough new
spending that it's mathematically certain that the tax increase will have to be
larger than advertised. Should I not believe him?Anon
12:14 -- I submit that you should not take as gospel anything that preachers or
talk show hosts say -- OR the things said by teachers and professors. Nobody
has the right to a blank check. If anyone can make a persuasive argument that
honestly convinces you, agree with him; if not, don't.That said, I
agree that a good deal of what's taught about history in K-12 education and a
fair number of university history professors' classes is ideologically-corrupted
pseudohistory. The truth, though, is usually discoverable easily enough for
anyone who takes the time and effort to review enough of the evidence on both
sides of a question.
Cats | 9:39 a.m. ---"The Democrats don't embrace religion,
particularly Mormonism, as much as you'd like to believe. It was a particularly
prevalent joke around the Clinton White House to make fun of Mormons."What do they think of Muslims?"The Democrats discerned correctly
that one of the main reasons they lost in 2004 was because they are perceived as
being a Godless, anti-religion party."The Dems lost because they put
up a loser for a candidate."The far-left portion of their party,
took particular joy in making fun of religion and religious Americans."How is it that the far left was able to take over the party? Is the party
full of wimps?"Therefore, the Democrats made the calculated decision
to put Harry Reid in as their leader in the Senate in order to try and
counteract this perception that they were anti-religion."Not to
worry. He'll be out in a few months.
DBG -- I agree that *true* "corporate welfare" is an abomination. It
demonstrates that contra leftist ideology, corporations are not inherently
conservative. Most of them are amoral and unideological, and will dump
conservative orthodoxy in a heartbeat if they can gain a government-enforced
advantage. That needs guarding against, just as much as the
Democratic-supported statism that gives this rent-seeking camouflage.Far better to have a broad, minimally-intrusive tax base than the present
jury-rigged system of special tax exemptions for industries best capable of
lobbying.As for the "Patriot Act," I simply don't see how anyone can
make any comparison to previous wartime measures. The actual provisions of the
Act are so far removed from the mythology created by its critics that I can only
conclude they've never actually read them. Government has long had far more
intrusive powers with respect to tax collection and the War on Drugs than
virtually anything in the Patriot Act (not that I'm thrilled with those
Anon: Yes, I'm familiar with that quote. I've got you one better: It wasn't
Benjamin Franklin who said it.Do you honestly agree with that
quote's sentiment? If so, ask yourself this: What law is *not* a trade of
liberty for security? Do you not support gun control? What is gun control,
except a trading of one's liberty to own a firearm without restrictions for the
alleged safety of added protection against gun crime? What are
antidiscrimination laws, except a trading of one's liberty to discriminate for
safety from being discriminated against?That "trade liberty for
security" quote is just stupid. Nobody really believes it. If they did, we'd
all be radical libertarians. And last time I checked, that party gets what --
2% of the vote on a good day?
Michael Moore is actually quite jolly. "Rabid" is a better description of the
Convention watcher | 9:22 a.m. ---"The DNC people just seemed like
mean and angry people obsessed with getting political advantage, very passionate
about their political party (almost to the point of obsession) but not so much
about their country in general."A fairly accurate description of
Democrats.When I picture a Democrat, guys like the rabid Michael
Moore comes to mind.
nice rant "to thomas." Thomas while I do not necessarily share the
same pessimism with DBG, I think some of us that have "read history" do not care
to repeat it. It is truly foolish to not learn from history. Being a history
puff I am sure you are familiar with the quote any man that would give up
liberty for safety deserves neither.
I'll tell you what is always stupid: to blame either political party for high
gas prices. Please.
Thomas, Yes our teachers and professors have no idea what they're
talking about. Better to listen to our preachers and talk radio host. They much
more logical and reasoned and balanced.
@Thomas: The answer would be "No". History repeats itself and that is the very
reason I put the Patriot Act up there. It doesn't matter the party, the fact,
that BOTH are going to bring this country to her knees. Someone told me "the
definition of republicanism has change, or George Bush is no republican." This
has destroyed what republicanism stood for and one reason why I left. More and
more people are leaving the republican party because of things like this. If people want real change, then we need to vote for a different party.
Utah is proof enough that party doesn't matter (republican vs. democrat) since
we are paying higher taxes here. Corporate welfare is high among republicans,
but they are quick to denounce "socialsim". Can't have it both ways.
and Parrots can be percieved as intellectuals. come one paul, president bush has
spent us out of our childerens future and you really believe that the demos will
spend and tax more than Bush did. sounds like you like stupidity to me.
Read the Alan Greenspan biography and then tell us that Republicans are not
about vote buying, big government, deficit spending, etc. Imagine, NO federal
deficit by 2006 IF Bush had not been elected. Time to start looking at facts -
many of which Greenspan lays out for everyone to read.
To Thomas: You asked "Doesn't anybody read history anymore?" The answer is No.
They are too busy listening to the teachers and profs spout off about their
view of history and why the USA is a bad place and not to be proud of. The
dumbing down of America is well on its way thanks to the liberal media, mindset
I think C'Mon illustrates perfectly everything that is wrong with politics as
usual. CMon has a lot of rhetoric but no facts or substance.
This letter is name-calling, nothing more and nothing less. It calls Democrats
stupid. If you're going to print the letter to begin with, you should post
comments reflecting the opposing view (i.e., Republicans are stupid). Or just
pull the whole name-calling circus altogether.
DBG, I'll share your annoyance about NCLB (though probably for different
reasons; mine is that I don't think the federal government has any business
monkeying around with local education *at all*), but really, do you have any
idea what is *in* the "Patriot Act"?It doesn't come within a country
mile of the intrusions on liberty FDR imposed during the Last Good War. If it
did, the Bush haters would have been put on trial for sedition, like FDR did his
loudest opponents in 1942. Arab-Americans would have been interned like the
Japanese. Formal government censorship would have been imposed on the media.
Industry and consumers would have been put on a rationing system. The FBI would
have the right to conduct warrantless surveillance of *anybody*, not just the
incoming international telephone calls that had everybody so worked up last
year.Doesn't anybody read history anymore?
Oh. That's the Republican convention this week? Both nominees are "mavericks"
and the convention had a Democrat speaker. Looks to me like the traditional
Republicans are being ushered to the background (like the Utah delegates up in
the rafters). When do the "real" Republicans hold their
To you Looney Liberal's: You don't think that your social spending is out of
control, too? How laughable. Your spending is for vote buying, plain and
simple. Bush's spending on the war got him 0 votes, but at least it is more
honest than your thinking has been. And to put Dirty Harry as your Minority
Leader was as ludicrous as one can think. Pelosi? C'Mon, get a clue!!!! The
Looney Left put Reid on display as a Trophy as well as putting Obama on display
as a Trophy. Reid, Obama, Pelosi and the rest are as incompetent as any... yet
they are Trophys...
Think...said ...the democrats have allowed him (Harry Reid) to rise up, and his
faith was not a factor in keeping him down. and Johny Fairplay said...At least
the Dems don't seem to have a problem putting a Mormon in a leadership position.
Boy what Hypocreaceae, It is not the democrats that have allowed this -- if Reid
were a Republican religious bias and slander would have been all over the media.
I would also dare say if Mitt Romney had been a democrat The Republicans would
not have brought about the kind of crap you saw in the bias media.
Cats 9:39 - As someoine who LIVES in Washington I can tell you that the only
party that trashes the Mormon religion in this town is the party of the
Evangelical Christians. You can decide which political party that most
Utah for Bush! Utah for insane spending on stupid wars, death for our soldiers
and thousands of Iraqis, Utah for huge corporate welfare outlays! Here's one
Utah Mormon who lines up 100 percent with Reid. Too bad there aren't more of us
with our eyes open.
Convention watcher: I thnk a slight bias also plays into your observations as it
does everyone's (including me) I heard a great deal of "liberal" bashing last
night. It sounds like you and I would agree that it is not helpful coming from
either side of the isle though.
"Don't embrace Stupidity"...Hmmmmm, this from a Bushie? Now THAT's comedy!
As someone with a lot of political experience in Washington, please let me set
the record straight--The Democrats don't embrace religion, particularly
Mormonism, as much as you'd like to believe. It was a particularly prevalent
joke around the Clinton White House to make fun of Mormons. Harry
Reid was voted in as Senate Majority Leader (minority leader at the time)purely
because the Democrats got hammered in the 2004 election. The
Democrats discerned correctly that one of the main reasons they lost in 2004 was
because they are perceived as being a Godless, anti-religion party. The
far-left portion of their party, took particular joy in making fun of religion
and religious Americans. They knew they had to do something about this
perception or they were going to continue to be rejected by devoutly religious
Americans and continue to lose elections. They agonized about this a great deal
after the 2004 election and knew they were in serious of troubleTherefore, the Democrats made the calculated decision to put Harry Reid in as
their leader in the Senate in order to try and counteract this perception that
they were anti-religion. It was a purely political move--plain and simple.
I've only watched a little of the Republican Convention but I watched a lot of
the DNC Convention and the thought that kept coming to me last night was that
the people at the Republican Convention (in the audience) seemed a lot more like
me (common Americans) than those at the DNC Convention. The DNC people just
seemed like mean and angry people obsessed with getting political advantage,
very passionate about their political party (almost to the point of obsession)
but not so much about their country in general.I saw some crazy
dressed people in the GOP convention audience too, but not the anger at the
other party, anger at our country, anger at the direction the governent (and
therfore their life) is taking, anger at past/current administrations, etc. I
also didn't notice the catch phrases from the speakers that prompted the
audience to rise to their feet finish the sentences with the speaker, almost
like a pledging of allegiance.The fanaticism factor may be more
equal than it appears. It's hard to tell from TV (they can pretty much tell
whatever story they want)Just an observation.
Bush is "more big government" than any modern president. Look at NCLB, Patriot
Act, and the rising deficit just to name a few. This will tear our country apart
more than anything else.
At least the Dems don't seem to have a problem putting a Mormon in a leadership
I don't see how bush "betrayed" what republicans stood for. You love war and
you hate taxes. Now you have the nerve to complain about deficits, high
gas prices, a worthless dollar, and a soiled national reputation.
Republicans should go back to pretending everything is fine. At least then they
Reading the blog convinces me that voting Republican is the right thing to do. I
am also disapointed with them, but the hate and hypocrisy of the left still
remains more intense. Unfortunately there is only two choices: bad or worse.
Your party never betrayed you, or changed it's values. It's just that you were
ignorant enough to vote for them to begin with. You reap what you sow, deserve
what you get, etc, etc, etc. Get used to the idea of at least 4 years of
I am a conservative LDS woman. My party has totally left me. The democrates
have LDS in the higest power they've got. Never a question about his faith has
arose. It's never cancelled him out. I don't agree with Ried on much. But the
democrates have allowed him to rise up, and his faith was not a factor in
keeping him down. The GOP? I'm just wondering when the brown shirts
will start comming out. So far, so bigoted.
Paul will please you remind me what it was "that the Republican party once stood
for"? Apparently I'm too young to remember.
yes, these generalizations about Democrats blinds people like this writer to see
how this nation has become great! If we didn't have government-sponsored
education for our populous, we wouldn't have one of the most educated and
entrepreneurial workforces in the world to offer us the standard of living that
is the envy of the planet. High gas prices are a direct result of GOP secret
meetings to shape the Cheney/Bush energy policy around oil and to defeat any
wind, solar, and fuel efficiency standards in Detroit. The result? High gas
prices and a dying American auto industry. Worse, Bush promoted tax incentives
for Americans to buy gas-guzzling SUVs after 9/11 when we all knew our oil
dependency was paying for the terrorism against us -- but GOP "stupidity" just
made our oil dependency worse! Democrats don't want socialism, but a government
that works! GOP showed during Katrina that government can be gutted so much
that it can just let its citizens be "on their own" during disasters (part of
GOP's "ownership society"). Democrats are just seeking how government can
benefit society and solve America's key problems, from energy to healthcare to
reducing abortions to creating domestic jobs.
If we don't change our ways, and maybe even if we do, those gas prices aren't
likely to come down much. It would be stupid not to see the end of cheap oil,
and moreso not to start doing something about it.
more government, more spending and higher gas prices all sound like the
republican part to me, is that not what we have had for the past 8 years. Six of
which the republicans held both the congress and the presidency. Stupid is as
Paul, maybe the stupid ones are those who buy into the right-wing talking
points. The truth is that democrats don't embrace out of control spending,
higher taxes, socialism, high gas prices, or rabid environmentalism.Maybe Harry Reid is able to see the truth that you're unwilling to see:
People everywhere want the same things, and the political polarization you
exhibit is a result of brainwashing.If you are obtuse enough to
believe those absurd generalizations you spout about your fellow americans, then
it appears you are the fool.