To Obese,Dear Sir, you are the rare exception and I genuinely salute
you. Far too often however, other large individuals believe it is THEY who are
entitled to accomodation because of their size.
I think more carrot less stick would be most effective. There is research to
support it. My Parents are insured through the state. They have a program that
"pays" you to do things like stop smoking or loose weight. Agreed, those who
pose more of a health risk should pay more. I know I was upset when my rates
kept increasing exponentially becuase single girls kept getting pregnant. I
thought it was unfair. But what could I do about it, nothing.
As an obese man, I really don't know what "normal" sized people expect from me
any more. I'll give you an example:The last time I was on an
airplane, because of my size, I BOUGHT two tickets. With two tickets, my weight
per seat was 150 pounds--pretty "normal" right? It was the worst flight of my
life. The flight was oversold and my "extra" seat became a major source of
controversy before take-off. Then, the whole flight, people around me made
derogatory comments about "fat people thinking they are entitled to more space
than the rest of us". I don't have a problem with paying more for my
insurance because of my size. I just want to be treated a little bit better
when I try to be considerate and do the right thing. If people would look past
the fat, maybe they would see a guy that was a pretty decent member of society
and not someone to scorn and deride.
Does their weight affect their ability to do their job? If yes, lose the weight
or lose the job.Does their weight increase the cost of their health
care? If yes, lose the weight or pay more. Same thing for other lifestyle
choices - if you smoke, pay more; if you drink, pay more; if you do drugs, pay
more.If it's a matter of genes, something over which you have no
control, you should not be penalized.I remember security guards as
wide as they were tall and thinking that if someone with criminal intent rushed
past them at the entrance, there was no way they would be able to catch up to
them to stop them - their obesity was a huge obstacle to them being able to do
If I follow the logic of Anonymous:10:38 then the free market condition of
healthcare would simply fail. The rest of us would pay for what we can afford.
If this were to come to pass we would see the cost of healthcare go down because
the healthcare industry would have to compete with other interests for our
dollar. I think that we have the expectation and mindset that we
have a right to the best healthcare available and that society should preserve
my life at all costs. I believe that this entitlement mentality is distorting
our ability to have cost effective healthcare. Healthcare providers
can charge more and more because we will pay the cost. If we stop paying the
cost then they will provide more cost-effective services. Socializing medicine
is the surest way to hinder medical progress. Who is going to do the research
when there is nothing to be gained? Sometimes we have to look back to see how
far we have come. 60 years ago we didn't have antibiotics. People could die
from a flesh wound. Now it is unheard of.Just sayin...
Unfortunately, Anon.|10:16 has it right - this is the first wave of "Free
Market" healthcare solutions that will eventually leave 90%+ of the population
without affordable health insurance because they actually need healthcare. Only
those lucky enough to have the proper genetics and no accidents so they don't
need any healthcare will be able to afford health insurance.
People are fat because they eat too much. People are rich because they earn too
much. Its time we made fat people pay for their indulgences just like we make
rich people pay for theirs. Higher taxes for the rich, higher medical insurance
costs for the fat. What's the difference?
Wont be long until your 'insurance' company will decide to cut you loose because
of your weight. The free market at work.
When they come for you, who's going to stand up for you? The smokers? The fat
people? Noooo, they're going to say "serves you right" for not standing up for
me!I hope there are people who realize that $25 is a pittance to pay
for health insurance, refuse to weigh-in, and just pay the fee. I think I would
be inclined to (and I'm far from obese), just as a protest to the system.
I think this is an awesome idea.My only change would be that the
"normal" sized people should get the money that the fat people are being
charged.Same on airline flights or concert seats. If you are
overweight you pay more but that extra you pay goes to the poor person that had
to sit next to the overweight person.We'd see the pounds being shed
If you support the idea that people who work for the government can be fired (or
not hired) because the have tattoos then you must support the idea that they can
be fired (or not hired) because they are fat. Both can be unsightly to some
people. We should also be able to fire those with, or without, facial hair (both
men and women). Why not simply post that any employee can be fired at any time
if any customer finds them remotely unattractive. Wouldn't that make it better
for all of us who must occasionally conduct government business? No. You've got
This is no different than selecting smokers or drinkers. There is plenty of
proof fat kills.