They're popular with University of Phoenix faculty, students
I do not see an answer to Lindas Question. Can the ebooks be downloaded to a
kindle or other reader?
UOP's method of on-line books is awful. You do not get the whole book. You
only receive the parts (chapters) of the book that the school feels covers the
course. You do not receive workbooks, CD-Rom's, or lab manual that work along
the side of the text to help a student better grasp the concepts of the course.
I learned about this after failing a course. I begged my academic counselor to
tell me where I could find information for the course I was taking, because I
was having a hard time in the course. My counselor told me to guess and just do
the best I could. That did not work. Now I am trying to dispute the failing
grade I received in the course. When information is withheld from a student for
the sake of cost, learning becomes a nightmare. You continuously bang your head
against a wall that does not give. No school should aggravate or stress a
student to the point of a complete meltdown. I regret ever getting involved
Not a comment, but a question. Are the ebooks downloadable to a portable devise,
other than a computer or netbook? Such as a Kindle or Sony e-reader?
Ebooks are great because you can access them from anywhere at anytime. And, just
like hard copies of any book, the info gets old and gets revised - - if you
return to school due to some delay, then you might still end up going out and
BUYING another copy of some hard copy. Depending on how many classes one has,
you might have to have 3 or 4 books, and $95 is cheap compared to the general
cost of just one hard copy book. Buying a hard copy does not guarantee you will
be able to sell it the next year either cause schools are always changing
textbooks (so u end up with a book u don't need or want any more). I bet you
have no problems going out and renting videos that you have to return, that you
never own, and definitely cannot sell to someone NEXT year!!! (unless u do
bootleg- - and that is a risk if you hope to get a good version).
DOn't know where your co-worker really goes but that is not how UOP works - -
you work our tail off and don't just slide by with a paper here and there. Just
finished masters program, and one course at a time makes you work as though you
were taking 4 or 5 courses- acclerated learning, and it DOES NOT lower the value
of any 4 year degree! Some of those who go one night a week to a campus work
just as hard in between except for that co-worker of yours. Sounds like that
person needs to set some priorities and get real about going to school, or is
that person just going to get whatever is left over after financial aid pays - -
that 's what it sounds like to me!!!!
A co-worker is going to the UOP distant learning school. Showing up one time a
week, listening to the instructor, no homework, no books (I guess electronic)
and "reads stuff on the web all class long" (direct quote). Is this the how the
UOP teaches? I mentioned about 500-1000 word papers due weekly at my college
and he was amazed! He did not understand about writing research papers and
citing resources! They are doing more than saving money... It is unfortunate
they are allowed to lower the value of 4 year degrees.
e-books do not reduce textbooks cost...you pay the same amount for a print book
and an e-book, but you lose the first sale rights attached to a printed book.
That is, the publisher can set an expiration date so you can no longer access
the book and they prohibit you from transferring the book to someone else like
is very common with used print books. You pay the same for less rights, plus
there is no guarantee technology will allow you to still access your book in a
year or two even without an expiration date, with the speed at which technology
changes.If we teach students information literacy skills so they
know how to judge the quality of information available on the internet for free,
students will learn just as much as they would with an overpriced textbook in
addition to being skilled at finding more information on their own when they
need it. They may also be encouraged to participate and collaborate in writing
new materials. The argument that authors won't write if their material is given
away for free online does not hold water anymore. Times are changing and
publishers are scared as they become irrelevant.
The math does not seem to work in making textbooks cheaper at the University of
Phoenix. If you take 4-5 classes which is common for a full time student, then
at $95 a class that is $380-$475 per semester or $760 to $950 a year. According
to most independent surveys such as the California SEARS survey, students spend
about $750 a YEAR on average on textbooks, but have the flexibility to sell some
of those books at the end of the term, which may reduce their net cost. In the
case of the University of Phoenix they don't have that option and are in effect
paying more if they are enrolled full time.
Finally!This is something that could have been available at least
8-10 years ago and for which I have been pushing all that time.It is
not only much more cost efficient, from many angles, it is also more knowledge
efficient as updates and error corrections can be made available to keep the
information in the e-books more relevant and/or accurate.A plus all
the way around.