Utah college chiefs want liquor-free sports TV

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  • Bob
    Sept. 17, 2008 7:21 p.m.

    I vote we ignore or tevo the adds but ban alcohol from sporting events. The amount of alcohol related deaths on campus pale in comparison to the alcohol related deaths world wide at sporting events. I would love to take my kids to professional or college event and not have to explain what the words mean the drunk idiot is yelling next to us!

  • Amanda
    Aug. 11, 2008 9:05 p.m.

    Drinking is for losers...and drunk drivers! It's not that hard to see that the companies that advertise beer and liquor on TV are just taking your money from you. It can take your life away from you drink by drink and where are the companies when you need a hand up from that hole you create for yourself and family?

  • Idahoan
    Aug. 9, 2008 7:44 p.m.

    Remember, not all college students are 21 and over. Again, why should we allow a product to be promoted that is illegal for a large portion of the participants, i.e. those playing and watching?

  • repley :Ernest T
    Aug. 9, 2008 12:54 p.m.

    Ernest T Bass's glands.

    That's a mental image I didn't need.

  • re:SJBobkins cont.
    Aug. 9, 2008 12:38 p.m.

    I don't need someone smarter than me responding "raise your kids right, unplug your TV, move", and the rest of the stupid replies that always work themselves into these boards.

    If the ads showed the reality of alcohol abuse, the deaths, the health issues when you get older, the promiscous sex that leads to unplanned parenthood and STD's, etc, I think a balanced approach would be fine, but they don't.

    They show Big Horses, partying with the beautiful people, funny times by funny people.

    Some people just have addictive personalities, a genetic predisposition to alcohoism, a physical inability to drink unresponsibly and that can't be fixed by saying "Just say no".

    If you already drink responsibly, I sure you have your favorite adult beverages (I'm in my forties, and mine were Molson, Grey goose, and Don Julio) and I don't see an advertisement changing what you choose to drink. The ads DO glamorize consumption.

    If I'm watching a game with my family, and someone decides not to put the ads on, I'm fine with that.

    Why do so many cling to those precious ads so feircely, knowing the costs placed upon society, spouses, children and innocent in our society?

  • Reply SJ Bobkins
    Aug. 9, 2008 12:07 p.m.

    "But to say that people decide to drink because they see a Bud commercial is a stretch."

    We are raising our daughters not to drink. Not for any religous reasons, but because I used to "party", my very best friend I used to party with was killed about 16 years ago because he was driving on the wrong side of the road and hit a truck head on, My youngest brother just got out of State Rehab (read prison) because he could alway drink, drive and maintain until he got a DUI, his lawyer got it squashed easy, but he picked up two more quickly and lost his family, home, etc.

    My problem is Alcohol does not enter my home, except on TV. I do not want them to think they are missing anything, but when we are watching TV, the ads do come on.

    Once again, drinking is something I do not want them to do, we discuss it, and they are fine not drinking, and I am sure they will need to decide someday, but if I could "choose", I would rather the commercials not come in my home.

    I'm not in a bubble.

    I do appreciate theNCAA.

  • Dhurch and State
    Aug. 9, 2008 11:55 a.m.

    Which state, which church?

    It's all over the country, bro.

    Just because Dr. Hill doesn't see the need, I stand by what the NCAA is trying to accomplish.

    It's the first step to putting in the regulations the NFL put in for their stadiums.

    What we need now... an NFL team.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 9, 2008 7:26 a.m.

    In an interview several years ago with the great UNC Tarheel coach Dean Smith,he was asked what he thinks was wrong with college sports. His response was games on sunday and alcohol advertisements in arenas and on tv. He said if he had his ways all alcohol ads would be banned from college sports.

  • SJ Bobkins
    Aug. 9, 2008 5:24 a.m.

    How about a tinny dose of reality. Alcohol is a drug, drunken drivers kill people, Drunks 50 or 15 are not cool. But to say that people decide to drink because they see a Bud commercial is a stretch. The ads primarily are aimed at people who already drink beer. The idea is to interest a person in trying their brand or to keep their customers buying that brand. I don't know anyone who saw a car commercial them suddenly decided to get a drivers license. The car ads are to stimulate the driver who already has a car to get a new model or to switch from the model they already drive. Having a discussion on beer ads in Utah is much like a group of Arizonians discussing which type of arctic parka to buy.

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Aug. 9, 2008 1:32 a.m.

    It's my glands, but thank you Rolly Polly.

  • Fully Invested
    Aug. 9, 2008 1:15 a.m.

    To anonymous, imagine how stupid the average person is and remember that 50% of the people in the world are dumber than that guy. Too bad you can't recognize that conservatives aren't the ones trying to control our lives through the government. Remember its the liberal who are trying to socialize everything, and if you want proof you don't have to look any farther than Obama's plan to take profits from oil companies to fund $1,000.00 rebate checks to over 112,000,000 Americans.

    Also ask yourself what kind of college students drink beer. Anywhere from incredibly intelligent to incredibly stupid. Maybe their commercials are more influential than you think. I would never pretend to be an expert though because I have DVR. Just remember, it's not democrats or republicans trying to regulate through congress what kind of commercials are on your tv. It's University Presidents, coaches, and Athletic Directors trying to clean up what kind of commercials are on tv during their athletic events. Which makes it entirely different than any kind of government regulation.

    Oh and don't forget it's Nancy Pelosi who is trying to regulate what can or can't be said on talk radio. Very liberal Democrat.

  • Rolly Polly Fans
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:15 p.m.

    The biggest public health issue here is not beer. It's grown men spending hours and hours polishing the leather couch with their behinds, watching football, when they should be getting some exercise.

    Lots of you have beer bellies, even if you don't drink beer. Heart disease, diabetes and other weight related diseases are probably more of a hazard than a couple beers(as long as you don't drink and drive).

  • re:Antonio Ortega | 6:21 p.m
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:45 p.m.

    "no seperation of church and state"???

    Aside of the letter written by Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists supporting a "wall of seperation", I'll give in to you on every arguement you ever post if you can find the Constitutional "Seperation of church and state". The Supreme Court has intrepreted Seperation, but it's not in the Constitution.

    That being said, I'm all for not having a church run the country, but if you move into a community that has certain morals and values, you can expect to see people with those values making choices that support those values.

    If I move into an Amish community, I just going to have to deal with beards and buggies.

    Now, all that being said, I agree with "In CA", Shirley, this has nothing to do with the LDS church.

  • In CA
    Aug. 8, 2008 7:49 p.m.

    Hey T -
    What part of "So far, 60 Division I college presidents, 240 athletic directors and 101 football and basketball coaches have signed letters calling for the NCAA to add beer to a list of products that cannot be advertised during college games. That list includes cigarettes, guns, nightclubs and gambling" don't you understand? How do you read Mormon in this? Even NASCAR has banned tobacco ads. You surely don't understand separation of church and state. Sorry, didn't mean to call you Shirley.

  • Re: Antonio Ortega
    Aug. 8, 2008 6:54 p.m.

    You cannot possibly be that ignorant! This is not a religious issue. Alcohol is one of the biggest problems that exist in our society that destroys lives. Get over your bigotry and recognize that alcohol is a problem all over the US and not just because Mormons chose not to drink. Your comment reflects poorly on yourself and others that think like you do.

  • Antonio Ortega
    Aug. 8, 2008 6:21 p.m.

    It's sad we live in a place where there is no seperation of church and state...Mormons need to keep their faith confined to their church!

  • re:re:re:JRspence | 3:39 p.m.
    Aug. 8, 2008 4:41 p.m.

    So buy a twelve pack, TIVO on download to your IPOD Beer Commercials, and get your fix, and all are happy.

    "Ute fans purposely drink at the BYU games because they know BYU fans despise alcohol."

    If that is the reason, it is probably the dumbest reason in the world, to make someone angry. Sounds like the first step to alcoholism to me.

    It does explain alot, though.

    I've always seen two cultures in Utah. The Molly type Mormons, and those that drink, smoke, tatt up, wear wife beaters on the street and anything else to anger the LDS.

    I move here from CA, and we are creating a sub-culture of people who know how to have a "couple" and leave it at that. Then it's live and let live, and not really give a rip about what others do.

    The smoke does "bug" in bars and at parties, so I respect those that smoke out side, and I appreciate when people maintain control and not spill their drinks on me...

  • JRspence
    Aug. 8, 2008 3:39 p.m.

    Ute fans purposely drink at the BYU games because they know BYU fans despise alcohol. When they're not playing BYU, the atmosphere is just as behaved as anywhere else. Eradicating Beer commercials for college football is ludicrous. They're the most entertaining commercials on t.v anyway. It's the spirit of sports. Don't let the bad apples ruin it for the responsible beer drinkers who like to kick back and watch college football with there buddies. It's the american way.

  • I don't get it
    Aug. 8, 2008 3:38 p.m.

    What's the big deal with not running Beer Ads?

    Is it something anyone needs.

    Can't you watch a game without the ads?

    Is this really an issue???

  • $$$$$
    Aug. 8, 2008 3:15 p.m.

    As in the changing of liquor laws, the alcohol sellers and distributors are the ones who are crying Freedom of Expression. If you can't figure it out, IT'S THE MONEY.

  • Burger impaired
    Aug. 8, 2008 3:03 p.m.

    Yes, we see lots of people being arrested for driving while burger impaired and beating their kids with a burger. Ban the burger ads too.

  • Must be Halloween
    Aug. 8, 2008 2:45 p.m.

    Lot's of strawmen, but, when you have no real arguments to support not banning beer ads in college football broadcasts, that's what you have to resort to.

    The college presidents are on the right track. Ban the beer ads. We don't need them.

  • Bud man?
    Aug. 8, 2008 2:06 p.m.

    Does Marduis Wilson work for a beer company? Do you own Bud stock? Will you miss the "entertaining" ads?

    Otherwise, what is your "strong opposition" to banning beer ads in college football broadcasts?

  • Tarheel Ute
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:41 p.m.

    I have not seen the tragedy of drunken driving that is as an emergency responder might. I am sure it's pretty bad. No less so for an accident caused by a person talking on his cell phone, or distractedly eating a burger or otherwise. I suppose we should ban alcohol and at the same time cell phones and burgers. Impaired driving, bad behavior, spousal abuse, broken marriages are all made worse by abuse of alcohol, but banning alcohol change the behavior, just limit the access to the majority who display judgment in the first place.

    Otherwise, I am not adverse to any organization attempting to protect their brand by associating it with university with sponsorship they consider inappropriate. However taking the argument to a logical or illogical extreme is a problem in itself. Outlawing any one item, simply because if abused it causes tragedy does not make for good policy or law and has never been proven to be practical. Individual rights and freedom of choice unfortunately leads to tragic consequences far and beyond the individual who made the bad choice. No law or ban will prevent that.

  • Kids in the streets
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:37 p.m.

    Let's not allow advertising of anything that shows kids playing in the streets either.

    You know - backyard barbeques with XYZ BBQ sauce, and little Johnny runs out in the street in the background without checking both ways.

  • Zero Chance
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:31 p.m.

    Money and football go together. There is ZERO chance of pulling the plug on beer dollars from football television broadcasts.

    Rest assured ... drink up!

  • Hypocrites in Utah, nevvver!
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:22 p.m.

    My brother told me about the time he went to a Utah vs BYU game two years ago in Salt Lake City. He sat in the student section but said the Utah students where drinking and getting drunk during the game. I was just wondering if the Utah stadium serves alcohol or if the fans brought it in them selfs.

  • About time
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:11 p.m.

    It is a public health issue as is tobacco advertising, not free speach. Binge drinking, DWI and many other alcohol related problems need someone responsible to stand up. Nice work coaches and those in the trenches.

  • Marduis Wilson opposes this
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:00 p.m.

    measure strongly.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:52 p.m.

    "Most of the students are at the game"

    Have you ever been to a Utah game at RES?

    Utah either has a much smaller studentbody than most people assume, or a lot of students are coming disguised as red stadium chairs.

  • T3
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:50 p.m.

    Drinking is a social problem, therefore society needs to do something about it.


  • re:anonymous | 12:13
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:37 p.m.

    Sorry, mistype error...

    Not NFL, NNCAA has the right to advertise who they want.

    The NFL is the organization cleaning up stadium behaveior.

  • re: anonymous | 12:13 p.m.
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:34 p.m.

    I have noticed that beer and other alcohol ads do not advertise to the college aged kids, with all of the hotties, and club scenes.

    Nope, good call on that one.

    Also, this is not a "ban" on advertising, this is the NCAA choosing not to advertise something, just like when NASCAR stopped advertising smokeless tobacco on their cars.

    Like NASCAR, the NFL has a right to choose who advertises.

    The Burger King / McDonalds analogy is a bit of a stretch. How many college age kids die from "Big Mac" or "Whopper" poisoning?

    Typical knee jerk reaction from yooterville.

  • lost in DC
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:29 p.m.

    five percent is not a big deal, and can easily be replaced.

    It is not the government saying what advertisements can and cannot be run, it's the universities, their presidents, coaches, and athletic directors despite the accusations of someone who hates conservatives. Though I must admit that I have no problem with the FCC banning cigarette commercials for the past 30 - 40 years. I still remember cigarette jingles from the TV ads in the 60s.

    as has been said already, commercial speech on public airways is a bit different than individuals' speech.

    I totally agree with the comment about Myles Brand; that guy would advertise sausages made from old ladies if he thought he could make a buck, just so long as the old ladies weren't American Indians. Please forgive the absuridity of the analogy, no offense is intended towards any group of people, but to point out Mr. Brand's hypocrisy.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:15 p.m.

    "Advertising may get you to choose to drink another brand, but it doesnt "entice some college age and younger football fans to start drinking"."

    This is the same argument that the tobacco companies used to defend their ads aimed directly at kids. Does any thinking person really believe that Joe Camel was created to get 50-year-olds to switch from Marlboro?

    Where do you think new drinkers come from? How many beer drinkers started drinking in high school and even junior high school? How many of them started drinking because of entertaining beer ads that showed it was cool to drink beer? If you think that the ads are only meant to get established beer drinkers to switch brands, you are extremely naive.

  • anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 12:13 p.m.

    Maybe we need to ban McDonalds and Burger King commercials since they are leading to the obesity problems in American to while we are at it. It's rediculous to assume that the beer companies are targeting college students. Most of the students are at the game so they are not even seeing the commercials. I am all for not selling it in the stadium but to ban it from TV is just ludicrous.

  • re:Anonymous | 8:39 a.m
    Aug. 8, 2008 11:51 a.m.

    Free Speech give The mtn network the right to put anything they want on their channels, as long as it does not go further than FCC regulations.

    It's their speech, if you want to wrap yourself in the First Ammendment, do so in a way that shows understanding about what the First ammendment is.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 11:43 a.m.

    You are the one who is rationalizing.
    Advertising may get you to choose to drink another brand, but it doesnt "entice some college age and younger football fans to start drinking". I will concede that I may be giving people more intellectual credit than they deserve but in my experience the best advertising cannot get me to buy something I dont already want. Perhaps my susceptibility (sp) to advertising is much lower than most.
    My cell phone comment is a red herring, but it was in response to another red herring already posted (you can tell which one).

  • Rationalizing
    Aug. 8, 2008 11:01 a.m.

    "To think that not advertising beer during college games will effect the drinking done by students is just moronic."

    One of the stupidest arguments people make, that adverstising doesn't affect sales.

    Do you really think that the Bud beancounters would spend millions of dollars every year advertising their products if advertising didn't affect sales?

    Of course the Bud ads affect sales, and anyone with half-a-brain who watches the ads can see that many of the ads are focused directly on college-age consumers.

    You're free to drink if you want. Nobody is stopping you.

    But to argue that adverstising WON'T entice some college age and younger football fans to start drinking is disingenuous and stupid.

    btw, your cell phone complaint is valid, but nothing but a red herring in the context of this discussion.

  • Texas Cougar
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:46 a.m.

    "Roscoe"- Man cannot live by beer alone.

    Relax...we'll still have the Pontiac game changing performance.

  • Not a moral issue
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:42 a.m.

    Liberal/non-religious Bay Area cities started banning smoking in public places LONG before conservative/religious Utah got into the act.

    It's time for the anti-conservative/anti-religious crowd in Utah to broaden their view a little and realize that public smoking and alcohol abuse are public health and public safety issues.

    Promoting beer sales to college students and teens, a huge chunk of the college football audience, is irresponsible. It's nice to see colleges starting to recognize their ethical responsibility.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    Most college football is watched by people well out of college. To pretend that only college students watch college football is not only disingenuous but stupid. To think that not advertising beer during college games will effect the drinking done by students is just moronic. Frat boys will still drink.
    It is telling that some on this message board want to ban alcohol all together. Or they want to blame drink driving on advertising. Guess what, car accidents are bad weather or not they are caused by drunk drivers. Cell phone users are likely to cause accidents, shall we ban cell phone companies from advertising during NCAA games? We cant even get our legislators to ban texting while driving.

  • Timothy Robbins
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:24 a.m.

    Wow, like you think these things can't happen.

    Utah one of the only places in the United States that allows you to smoke in a bar.

    NFL stadiums are cleaning up their image to by banning: Behavior that is unruly, disruptive, or illegal. Drunkenness and signs of alcohol impairment that result in irresponsible behavior. Foul or abusive language or obscene gestures. Interference with the progress of the game, including throwing objects onto the field.Failing to follow instructions of stadium personnel. Verbal or physical harassment of fans from the opposing team.

    It's time to clean up the image of football, and I applaud their decision.

  • Robert
    Aug. 8, 2008 10:07 a.m.

    I applaud the universities for these efforts. It will help them avoid the double standard of benefiting from, even promoting, products that are the cause of so many problems on campus.

  • Viagra?
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:50 a.m.

    Why would the mtn. decline ads for viagra? Seems like they could make more money and make that horrible station a little better. I can't wait for the football season, but watching football on the mtn. is horrible. Half the time I can't see the ball because the screen is too blurry. I say take ads of alcohol and viagra so your station can upgrade. BTW Craig Thompson needs to go.

  • The real issue
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:39 a.m.

    The main problem here is the association with alcohol and university students. Frat houses, for instance, have their reputations for a reason. Like the article said, a lot of kids are getting into trouble, getting hurt, or even dying because they have developed the mentality that college is for drinking. Removing alcohol ads is just a small effort to try to reverse this trend at least a little.

  • Myles Brand
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:38 a.m.

    Not going to happen. Myles Brand is the co-inventor & staunch supporter of the BCS bowl selection & anti- playoff activist. He has NO morality or conscience when it come to NCAA sports. Just worship the $$$$$ Baby!

  • CougarKeith
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:35 a.m.

    Advertising things that most STUDENTS aren't eligible to consume is supporting "Law Breaking". It's like setting a bowl of chocolate candy on the floor and telling your dog not to eat it? You have to use your head. I agree, there are plenty of other sponsors who can advertise, Coke, Energy Drinks, Cars, Shoes, and Athletic Apparel. Why should the NCAA allow the encouragement of drinking to the very students who watch and aren't even old enough to consume the products? I am a victim of a inebriated driver, which has left me with a lifetime disability. I don't "Hate" alcohol, I just detest the abuse of it. This is the USA, and those of age are welcome to use it responsibly, why encourage through humor and claiming to "Drink Responsibly" by the very Beer Companies themselves, a commercial to endorse their products to underage drinkers? Dump the Beer ads from the Games!

  • re: 8:39
    Aug. 8, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    Freedom of Speech? Commercial advertising does NOT fall under the same rights we get as individuals. Why do you think there are no tobacco ads on TV? Should we allow liquor advertisers the freedom to advertise as high schools? You haven't thought through it, and are ignorant of Supreme Court decisions that for years have governed this kind of advertising.

  • Re: anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:58 a.m.

    Conversatives don't hate freedom of speech and they don't want government in every facet of our lives. Far from it.

    But, thinking people everywhere -- conservatives, liberals, religious, secular -- should be concerned with a serious problem that destroys more American lives than guns and wars EVERY YEAR!

  • Re: Roscoe
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:52 a.m.

    "Don't bite the hand that feeds you"

    Have you ever accompanied an EMT responding to an accident caused by a drunk driver and actually seen up close and personal the innocent people who were killed or maimed for life?

    Have you ever seen a wife or child who was beaten up but a drunk husband or father?

    To simply ignore the horrific toll that alcohol abuse inflicts on society, because its adverstisers are "the hand that feeds you," is naive and stupid.

    Wake up!

    Some day it may touch your life and it may be your kids being pulled out of the wreckage with the jaws of life. Those entering beer ads may not seem so innocent when you see the open can of Bud lying on the floor of vehicle that just took away the most precious things in your life.

  • Marketing 101.
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:46 a.m.

    This is not a question of religious morals. It is a question of business ethics. It is wise to advertise products at a venue that show cases members of society that can use and "sport" those products. Beer ads are a great source of money for Major League Games, where many of the players can legally enjoy the product. College games should be endorsing youth oriented product, the obvious athletic products, energy drinks, sports drink, and on and on, but not alcoholic product.

    College foot ball is exactly that...COLLEGE Football. Despite it's popularity it is still associated with an educational institution and it should uphold it's values even in the advertising realm. Now this doesn't mean i don't think that they should/or shouldn't serve at the stadium, have I.D. will serve. Just because you limit advertisements doesn't mean you have to limit product.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:39 a.m.

    Why do these people hate freedom of speech? A company as a right to promote a legal product. Conservatives want the government in every facet of our lives.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:27 a.m.

    Let's go a step further and just ban it everywhere!

    It serves no good purpose and only causes grief and pain.

    I just don't get it.

    I still crack up when I see 50 year old men thinking they are "cool" because they are drinking. You know the guys that brag about drinking or walk around holding up their drink for everyone to see. What are they hiding from?

    Get a life.

  • Roscoe
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:26 a.m.

    Don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's all I'm going to say.

  • Where's Chris Hill?
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:14 a.m.

    Note that the president and athletic director of the other schools signed on to this proposal, but the U of U had its president and head football coach sign the letter. Is Chris Hill part of the problem, or is he late-comer to this proposed solution?

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 8:04 a.m.

    For years I just never got the dont advertise this or that crowd. But finally I understand. Those of you who are so feeble minded that you can be taken in by MLM schemes and republican talking points can also be taken in by advertising.

  • I Know......
    Aug. 8, 2008 7:44 a.m.

    We could replace the entertaining beer commercials with coolaid, green jello and mountain dew commercials.

  • Re: anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 7:09 a.m.

    "Now if we could just get colleges to ban GUNS on campus... "


    People legally carry guns are very, very seldom a problem.

    Do you really think a person planning on shooting up a campus cares whether the campus bans guns?


    There are plenty of other advertisers out there who can fill the gap left by beer ads. It's time colleges started being responsible for the message they are sending to their students and their fans. As the famous quote in Animal House states, "Fat drunk and stupid" is no way to go through life.

  • Anonymous
    Aug. 8, 2008 5:34 a.m.

    Now if we could just get colleges to ban GUNS on campus...

  • awesomeron
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:58 a.m.

    Reality is people drink, Reality is Beer Sells and Beer Commercials pay the bills. Where you play at can and should be dry. The last College Football Game I saw was BYU vs. Hawaii. I have not seen another one because Aloha Stadium is Wet and all efforts to make it dry have failed. I did not want to subject myself or my wife and kids to the stench and smell of Beer and Wine. However TV is a little different and like I said pays the bills, so you may want it but perhaps it is not the wisest thing to get it. I hate all Commercials anyhow but Free TV, is not Free so we must endure, we do not have to buy the stuff. That said Bud makes some of the Best Commercials Going.

  • SJ Bobkins
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:45 a.m.

    Great Idea! It just doesn't seem like a match to see the Budweiser logo superimposed on Y Mountain during an ESPN telecast of a BYU game. In watching tapes of older and classic BYU games, it was so prevalent you got conditioned to the ads. Of course with the introduction of the MWC presidents evil spawn "the mnt" we haven't had to deal with the problem. There were so few or even no games telecast that the sports world began calling the MWC the mushroom conference, (keep them in the dark and cover them with, well you know).
    My only question as a huge college football fan and non-drinker: do I have the right to dictate to those who drink; my morals?
    Its like the pope and birth control. If you don't play the game, you can't make the rules.

  • Big number
    Aug. 8, 2008 1:32 a.m.

    That is a huge number of colleges and administrators making this proposal. I admit I'm surprised at how broad the support is for this. College bosses must be realizing the liability that comes to them when kids come to them, parents expect the college to watch out for the kid, and the kid drinks until death. Very sad. Very good of the colleges to take this step.