Alta beat SF 4-3 in the UBA 17 year-old championship game...
You have finally caught up with the big city. You have have thrown your
graduated seniors to the wind. What do you owe them? They were loyal to your
program for their school years. Salt Lake coaches have done this for years and
now look at the mess the baseball community is in. Beware of this selfish
mentality. You missed the boat this past year. Dixie, SC, and PV could have won
the Legion tournament. A lot of good players from your area would have had a
chance to play and showcase their talent. You may have cost some of these boys a
college scholarship.Sorry for your loss.
Just to let you know the st. george schools played in there own league down here
and went to a lot of tournaments all over the state and Vegas just couldn't seem
to pay money for insurance to come up to salt lake and compete against all
graduated seniors and college players for 2 games when we were playing better
teams all over the west. St. George teams keep no graduated seniors so they
have all 09 graduates on there rosters. I think Prestwich (SC)and Nyberg
(Dixie) played on the select up north. Believe me there was baseball in St.
George this summer and all programs will be ready to compete again in 09.
Semi-Finals:Alta 10 Provo 8Spanish Fork 3 Jordan 1and both games were actually well played.Championship Game:
???Anyone out there know what happened, again not hopeful that this
score will be called in...
At last, some information on the UBA league. I am sure this didn't come from the
owners. Sorry, going out to dinner instead of watching 8 teams that could care
less. Will be going to the Legion tourney though, going to where the real
organization is. Good kids go to the UBA but the leaders need some work.
The final 8 teams from 27 league teams are set for the "UBA State Tournament."
The tournament started with pool play and whittled the 27 teams down to 8 teams
and a single elimination tourney which will be concluded at Cate Field Friday
night. The games are:Jordan @ SkylineSpanish Fork @
RivertonAlta @ BountifulProvo @ LehiAll games are at
5:30 PM today. The Jordan--Skyline winner will play the Spanish Fork--Riverton
winner at 3:00 PM tomorrow while the Alta--Bountiful winner will play the
Provo--Lehi winner at 5:30 PM. The championship game will be at 8:00 PM. Just some information because I admit the UBA has done a real lousy job
promoting its league and top teams. Sorry no results on the 15 and 16 year-old
Lets see several thousand a year for "programs" and member fees. Sixty or
seventy 09 and 10 grads at the game(s), Two offers, impressive. Being an
"idiot", priceless... Save your money...
You were told wrong I was at the prospect games and there were coaches from just
about every college in the state of Utah and not just their assistants but the
head coach from Utah and BYU were both there and I heard from a couple of the
players that two players were offered scholarships after their performance at
the game. So keep listening to other idiots like yourself.
Great post. By the way what teams won the "prospect" games?? Blue or Green?? Was
Joe Torre or Tommy Lasorda there recruiting?? No, just a lot of dads with their
radar guns, I was told.
Congrats to all who are involved with the Legion State Tourney! In case any of
you missed it, there have actually been some baseball games played! Yes, it's
too bad that some teams aren't involved in the tournament, but why take away
from those who are? The teams who are playing well will benefit throughout the
high school season. Love where you live and play with your school. These
memories of baseball are great ones that will last forever, for both players and
their families. People need to quit whining about everyone else, do what is
best for YOUR child and quit worrying about the "after high school stuff!"
Enjoy the experience - it will be over before you know it and remember, as fun
and intense as the games are - IT IS STILL A GAME!
We saw what happened when kearns played a decent team. Taylorsville will win
the tourny hands down. A new stadium and a lot of money doesn't make you a
We saw what happened when Kearns plays a decent team. Taylorsville will win the
tourny hands down. A lot of money and new stadium doesn't make you a champion.
The UBA deserves to be put down, trust me!!
beating a team 18-2 just isnt luck sorry to say. that tville team was absolutely
embarrasing literally... hate to tell ya but the past doesnt matter either its
about now and the near future to come.
I thought baseball was a game, to be played by boys. High School ball could
teach them how to play as a team and back each other up. Learning that the
strength of a team is much greater than that of an individual. Enjoy your new found dream of modern baseball. Glad to see you are all
getting along in the stands and comparing notes on who is the best because no
one else will care...Bring back Legion and Automotive
It would be great if we all supported our Utah kids in their quest to develop
their talent to their highest level. We should stop putting down programs and
kids. Just support our kids from Utah! Positive thinking and positive actions
bring about success. Lets not be our own worst enemy. Utah has some great
baseball players. I hope that they enjoy success and love the game to its
Come on now , Thanks for leaving a few player's out there for the rest of us to
put teams together that just want to play ball and have a good time doing it.
Who cares who would win. The article is about the "Legion State Championship".
Again, how many tournaments have these teams won?? With all that talent, and
coaching, I would think a few. Please let us know how they have fared this
It seems that last year Marshalls were mostly the elite kids that had graduated
HS. Now its moving down to a big list of Juniors and Sophs. Evolving just like
UBA. Also sounds like a lot of talk is going on. Doubt it's the kids must be
parents...Corrections:I believe Mayer is a Juniorand isn't
Gust a Soph??
Some on your list are not even getting books paid for
the ones to watch give me a break yack yack yuck give us a break for the
ones to watch. lets start looking at young men who are good not the ones that
the daddies promote!! which dad are you? lets start looking at the legion boys
with big talent!
Not sure who it is getting their books paid for only. Wouldn't have put them on
if I knew. Surprised that you know. Usually kids exaggerate what they are
getting. By the way, I am pulling for all the legion teams. I agree, it is the
way to go and gets away from the UBA, a baseball place in name only. Good luck
to all teams still playing, especially for something that matters. Wish my kid
was still playing this summer.
Keep your list around for 4 years and then post it with "where are these kids
now". You'll be lucky if two or three are still playing at these schools. Better yet the D News should do that. It would put most of these opinions in
a whole new light...
Impressive group indeed. One question? Are you really going to count a player(S)
who are just getting their books paid for as a baseball scholly??I don't.
Lets get back to what this article is about. Teams trying to win a "legion"
Why not ask Kyle Harris, who played with the select for awhile, who would win.
Then we could put this to rest!
Until people really quit supporting the UBA, the money will keep rolling in.
Most people won't admit it but the UBA big thing is Spring Training. That is a
total joke with the scouts only there to see whomever the academy loves. I have
a youngster that is a good ballplayer but I think, if he is good enough, that he
will be seen without ever stepping in the UBA doors. Am also hoping that Legion
goes back to the old days when summer ball meant alot.
Indeed American Legion has lost its luster. In the early to mid 1990's over 50
or so Utah programs existed, many among the Wasatch Front. It was very
difficult to just make the 16-team tournament.The UBA killed (well
wounded big time) American Legion and Automotive Baseball. But if the UBA keeps
performing like it has the last 2-3 years with a less than stellar summer
league, many programs will come running back to American Legion--wait and
see.Sadly, many high school coaches decided to jettison their
seniors and concentrate on their younger players with the UBA league. But what
has happened is that the UBA is coming more and more of a disappointment and
many of the high school coaches are not happy with it. Most of the parents
aren't as it can be much more expensive, and let's face it, the quality of
baseball is poor. Those playing American Legion are giving their all, and
showing up for the games, which doesn't happen in the UBA. Several teams have
forfeited in the UBA's end-of-season tournament. I don't think that happens
with American Legion today and certainly not in the American Legion of years
Yes that's right we beat the Bucks up here in Ogden in the linquist tournament a
few weeks ago and won the hole thing We have not played the Select, or the
Marshalls, But we have beat some of the Legion Teams from around here and
I would put this team up against any team from around here or anywhere They are
that dang good and want to just play ball. No politics just kids that want to
play ball.Dirk Barber ClearfieldRicky Nope ClearfieldColton Anderson ClearfieldChase Moore FremontBraxton Davis
NorthridgeKyle Harris NorthridgeMatt Hamilton NorthridgeBreck
Synder NorthridgeAustin Esplin NorthridgeDustin Christenson
NorthridgeDarren Bybee RoyJustin Seabolt RoyCarson Pace
NorthridgeAlex Florek Northridge Austin Fowler NorthidgeSounds like we might be the team that just sneaks up on everyone and plays to
have fun Go Elite Baeball
these kids would represent their own legion team, Utah may have a better chance
of getting out of the Western Regionals for American Legion. Any Utah team will
struggle against Bishop Gorman or Sierra Vista or whoever the winner out of Las
Vegas is. These guys play some serious baseball. Good luck to the Utah
Beverley - Oregon StateGreen - UtahAmicone - UVUWhitney -
BYULopez -BYUYagi - UtahCarmen - Washington StateMayer -
Washington StateMonkres - UtahPond- UtahLarsen - North
Carolina StateNelson - UVUD2'sDoi - DixieEvans - Midland LutheranD3'SRassmusen - PacificJC'sLittlewood - SLCCShipley - SLCCOlsen -
Southern IdahoCroft - Southern NevadaExxon - SLCCHanks -
Southern NevadaPratt - SLCCJuniors to watch:DietrickYackBilbreyMooneyNybergPrestwichGustRobbsSlaymakerZollingerI will be watching
the whole Legion Tournament because I like baseball and pull for everyone to
enjoy themselves. But to be honest, let's see how many of the Legion players get
what these kids already have. This isn't a put-down, only some facts and I am
sure I have missed some from the 3 teams that should be on this list.
Lets keep the talk about the State Championship. Again, how many tournaments
have the bucks, marshalls and select won this summer?? How many of the 40 or 50
kids will be playing D-1?? You would think a lot, as most of them were
all-state. At least I would. Good luck to all of the Utah BB players, regardless
of where they are playing summer ball.
Go down the rosters of the bucks, select, and marshalls and please let me know
who the "who ya know" kids are. I am sure there might be a couple but most of
them were all-state and scholarship kids. Am very interested in what kids off
those 3 should and shouldn't have been picked. If all-state and scholarships
aren't good enough stats, then tell me what criteria they should use. Would be
interested in your thoughts and will look at them with an open mind.
Just because some kid is picked to be on some special team doesn't mean he is
the best around. If the bucks, marshalls and select really wanted the "best"
kids, they could have used stats and other qualifying date to choose these kids.
The only reason some of these kids are on these teams is because of the "who ya
know" roster building technique. Being on these teams does not bring any promise
of success in the future. So quit stressing about it.
I think the Bucks got beat in the Ogden tournament by a Northern team. It was
not by the Marshalls or the Select.
you hand pick kids from a large area to be on a team, you can't help but be
successful. Legion teams are usually held to a much smaller boundary. Maybe the
bucks, marshalls and select could beat some of the legion teams, but theres
really no reason they even need to play each other. Each group of teams have
there own goals for the summer. Legion teams are trying to win a state title,
Region title then a trip to the World Series for Legion teams. The other 3 do
not qualify for this activity. Their goal is to showcase each kid and hopefully
get them a college scholarship or even a MLB draft pick next June. Legion teams
also get noticed by scouts during the summer, but the other 3 can't win a world
series no matter how bad they want to. Final score: Legion kids win this round.
How have the Bucks, Marshalls and Select fared this year (out of state)?? Win
any tournamnts?? You have to compare apples with apples. A hand picked team from
all of the legion teams would compete with these "travel" teams. Trust me.
I don't think the bucks, marshalls or the select are eligible to play in the
state tourney. The make up of their teams do not follow the rules of the
American Legion system. I could be wrong, but I don't think they are in this
tourney. And because of that, each player on these teams has forfeited their
opportunity to play in the state legion tourney and move on the the western
regionals and maybe the world series in North Carolina.
I think Legion is the best league in town but none of these teams could beat the
bucks, marshalls, or select. It would be fun to watch though.
Isn't it odd that a baseball town like St. George doesn't have any teams in the
state legion tourney. There are 4 high schools here now and not one of them
could muster up a team to compete. There used to be a St. George Legion team
that was made up from kids of the various schools. For some lame reason that
team couldn't even come together this summer. As much as St. George thinks they
can dominate baseball due to better weather year-round, the up north part of the
state is much more organized and determined to play the game. For whatever
reason, a lot of good players down here are sitting around wishing they were in
this tournament. If the baseball folks here in St. George really think we are
that good, then do something about.
Lets talk about the "legion" tournament and not the UBA. Most everyone knows
they are a for profit bussiness and take care of their own. Until more schools
leave there program like T-ville has Utah summer baseball will suffer. Get those
"sparq" scores up and keep the $$ coming in.
The UBA would only show the names that signed up to play, even if it was for one
tournament or showcase. I am sure most kids have done something with the UBA
only because the kids need the showcases to be seen and only the UBA has those
kind of connections at this time. Hopefully that will change in the future. A
majority of the north players weren't with the academy. The valley and south are
starting to see the whole picture unless their high school coaches are somehow
involved with the UBA. What would be interesting though would be how many kids
the UBA actually called for on the behalf of. The "boys" - yes. The rest
(majority) I would bet no. Does anyone have any thoughts or back-up on this?
After this list was made in the spring, they said they would re-write it after
the season is over. From this "new" list they would split up the group and play
a showcase game. What ever happened to that idea? A pre-season all star list is
much easier to make than a final season list. By season end was the UBA to
ashamed of themselves to pull that off? I guess as long as they keep raking in
the big bucks and making up lists, then that's all that matters.
WE all know this list is a joke just look at the list then look at all the kids
in the state tournament both high school and legion, you didn't see all that
many kids on those lists, those boys proved there tallent not on some list that
goes off how much money you contribute to the all mighty academy, they proved it
on the field where it really matters
Does anyone know where to find a list of 08 Grad. Baseball players from Utah
that are going to play at the next level, and (what College)? I ahve not seen
anything in the paper. I would also be interested in how many of them were a
part of UBA.
Blacksmith did not win the outright northern title, they shared it with
smithfield. they also scored nearly 90 less runs and gave up and equal amount on
the pitching side. Smithfield is the best team out of the north hands down and
kearns fans...taylorsville will destroy you stop talking
Chad Shephard did a good job with the marshalls but don't get carried away with
Buck Thomas. He had nothing but problems with many teams and their coach's.
Knows the game but not afraid to tell and act like he knows the game better than
he does. Arrogant to the nines. The bucks and select were better coached than
the marshalls were.
Why is there no news paper coverage of either league , no standings no scores,
no articles . The tribune had nothing at least the DNews had the legion
tournament pairings and times . I guess no one really cares about summer
baseball any more in the state of Utah its to bad because there is good baseball
being played . until the UBA came along you got a true state champion in
American Legion Baseball , There is another league that competes with the UBA
that is the varsity prep league they usally have around 12 teams every year ,
and it is not costing the kids parents an arm an a leg to play in this league
Congrats. You have finally qualfied for a post season tournament on your own.
Good luck if you play T-ville again. You will need it, as it will not be another
meaningless game, like the last one.
I agree with your assessment of the bucks and marshalls but you should have
added the select to the mix. Each kid on the select has signed scholarships as
well except for the 2 junior pitchers and they certainly will. Funny how none of
the best seniors of last year were playing in the UBA collegiate league. Must
tell us something.
The difference between the UBA,the American Legion tournament, The Utah Select
and the Utah Marshalls/Utah Bucks program is that the college and professional
scouts that attend the games are actually paying attention to all the players in
the Utah Marshalls/Utah Bucks roster. Chad Shephard and Buck Thomas know
baseball and baseball people - they have done a great job. They are the truly
respected by baseball people around the country. I don't think the UBA can
make that statement. ALL the players in the program will get the chance to have
their schooling paid for and play the game they love at the next level. The UBA
can NOT say that.
Please....hand picked and one scout there..he will be at the Legion Tournament
also...I think the Bucks and the Utah Select had better records against the
It doesn't really matter who wins the Utah Championship, they will lose big time
when they play in the western regionals. The legion teams from Las Vegas will
clean up on any Utah team that shows up. The Arizona programs are also light
years ahead of Utah. Maybe some day Utah will figure it out.
What about the prospect games lol. I have been to 2 of them and never seen a
scout or recruiter. Prospect for what?? Sparq top ten?? lol.
I heard the UBA lost their law suit and they have a sizeable loan ($600,000)
with a wealthy individual. Sounds like the fees at the UBA are going to be
going up faster than the gas prices. Big money to the UBA and no return on
investment - don't need to read Investment for Dummies to know that this is a
great time to run from them. Sinking Ship. I hope someone from the Utah
Marshalls takes the reigns if the UBA does the swirlly - I have been to many
games of theirs and it is ran unbelievably well. Great ball with 2 umpires and
college and professional scouts at EVERY game - very good. Run don't walk from
Win any type of state championship and run your mouth! And just cause you got
lucky and beat the older team means just that, you got lucky!
The Cyprus Pirates took second place in the Valley League.The tournament's
depth is at a lower level than the past few years because there is no
representation from the St. George schools.
no competition. let's wait and see how you do next year before popping off too
all that matters is kearns beat the older t ville team 18-2 wow that says alot
for the whole t ville reputation doesnt it lol. yeah way to go warriors! please
Funny T-ville U17 gets no mention despite beating all the tournament favorites
from the Salt Lake Valley league except their older team. Two of those victories
were sound wins might I add. Go young warriors!!
The UBA is a total joke and only care about money, not the kids, of course,
unless you are one of the boys. The funny thing is that outside of Utah, no one
knows about the academy unless they are friends of the owners. Umpires late to
games, more money, no ending tourney causing kids to just go through the
motions, unorganized, and geared to those that can afford, not necessarily being
able to really play. Take the top 40 list as an example. Everyone knows that is
a funny list. Am going to watch the Legion tourney, not because they are better
players, but the politics is left out of the equation. Showcase your own boys
and you will be better off, trust me.
That is all that they are about. They do nothing to help out the talent in Utah.
All they do is suck up all the money, and try to make kids play only one sport
so they get burned out so easy. I had 7 friends that played in the UBA jr.
Olympics and one of them got a scholarship to play baseball. plenty of others
did while not doing the whole Baseball Academy thing. Plus they saved a load of
money. Just play legion, and play where you live. If you have talent, no matter
where you live, you will get noticed and will be playing more ball after high
The UBS is completely ruining summer baseball. Everyone should just play
Helper got clobbered in their own tournament, but they are the only team in
American Legion in Utah to place at least 3rd in the last 4 years. They will be
in the mix again.
Isn't funny that American Legion is featured for putting on a great brand of
baseball and all you ever here about is the disaster called baseball that the
UBA puts out. BRING BACK AMERICAN LEGION - SAY NO TO THE UBA. Just for those
interested - my son did nothing with the UBA this summer - he just went to
college baseball camps and showcases - as of today - he has received scholarship
offers from three universities/colleges and 3 junior colleges. Go out and show
your son off if he wants to play at the next level do not wait for the money
sucking UBA to help because it will never happen. SAY NO TO THE UBA. Also, I
asked everyone of the coaches who offered scholarships if they cared what SPARQ
score my son had and he scored high, do you know what their reply was? A few of
them had no idea what a SPARQ score was and the ones that knew what SPARQ was
could care less - "How does SPARQ help a player hit a curve ball?" is how one of
the coaches put it. SAY NO TO UBA AND SPARQ - SAVE YOUR MONEY.
that Helper got clobbered in their own tournament. not a good sign for things to
come this week.
Helper does well every year this year they are taking it all!!!