Both parties increase finger-pointing over costs
Let's stop bickering about which party is to blame and hold our duly elected
politicians accountable for their positions on the issue of energy regardless of
party affiliation. If they are in favor of increasing domestic supply (more
drilling and refineries in the US) and their votes show it then they deserve to
stay in office. If they oppose it and insist on allowing prices to rise through
the roof, let's throw the bums out! Remember folks, this is about the law of
supply and demand. Our supply is limited by the middle east cartel which
increases demand and raises prices and devalues our dollar. Why are we giving
our enemies money to "terrorize" us? Why not instead use our resources to
protect our interests? GWBush announced offshore drilling would be allowed and
the price per barrel dropped $20 almost immediately, and our dollar value went
back up for the first time since the beginning of this economic crisis. High gas
prices equate to higher prices in everything else we buy. Let's keep the
politicians who are looking out for our best economic interests.
Ah come on, Cryos. Drilling for shale oil and offshore oil drilling would take
decades before any significant drop in the price of gas and oil prices would be
noticed. It's all a republican shell game by Hatch and the other neocons to
place the blame on the other political party. For you to believe such drilling
would be an economic messiah is quite guillible on your part.Besides, we all know "GOP" stands for the "Gas and Oil Party".
To add to my note I love how gullible liberals are to the "Big oil republican
huge conspiracy theory" pushed by the media for years. Just goes to show you can
push ridiculous ideas enough and people will believe them. Liberals
think about it. Your only argument is "we can't drill because republican big wig
fatcats are tied into the oil industry." You are tools to the media's agenda I
hope someday you wake up.
Unfortunately there is no point debating liberals anymore on energy. They have
been coerced to follow the policies of the nutjob environmental whackos WHO WANT
HIGH GAS PRICES. However they are too stupid to see logic if it doesn't involve
democrats and idealism. Good luck to all the sane minded who haven't subscribed
to the environmentalist extremism 3rd world country energy policies.
GrateDane: Nancy Pelosi might be able to afford $5 a gallon for gas. But let's
not forget how the Republicans and the current administration have robbed this
country blind with their business ties and association with the Saudi oil
In 2001 Cheney met in secret with the country's oil executives and formulated a
secret energy policy.In 7 1/2 years oil has one from $25/barrel to between
$125-$145/barrel.The Poicy has been sucessful, The oil industry wins, you
OK, I was challenged to list pro-Energy ideas by Republicans when "they were in
power." I'm limited to 200 words, but basically, Republicans have put forward
bills each year on pro-nuclear power (Jane Fonda goes nuts) , pro-pipelines
("not in my backyard!) , pro-electric lines (same), pro-hydropower (means you
have to build a dam), pro-wind (Kennedy doesn't want it near Martha's Vineyard),
clean coal technology (coal is "dirty" and melts the icecaps), off-shore oil and
gas (might ruin my beach experience), .. I think you get the picutre.
Republicans have never had 60 votes in the Senate.. and so, things like opening
up ANWR to oil, which we shoudl have done 15 years ago.... lost in the Senate 3
or 4 years ago by only 1 vote!! Democrats have blocked all of these things, and
continue to do so. Nancy Pelosi can afford $5 a gallon gas... She and her
husband are worth $50 million. What about the rest of us? By the way, the
2-party system is the best in the world... Just name a country with a better
system.. Americans need to pay more attention to the news and quit watching
To be involved in politics in our country it pays to be either a republican or a
democrat. Indep. people and indep. thinking is ok, sometimes even wonderful,
but if you want to pull the wagon you have to get involved with one or the other
of the two teams. Just a statement of fact.My son likes to declare
he is independent. He is, of course, until it comes time work with the team,
the family, and to pull the wagon (meals, lawn being cared for, etc.). I like
independece, and independent thinking, but in this nation of two strong parties
it is best to join one, influence it accordingly, and help move the wagon for
all of us.
Why not put out a bill that allows all energy ideas to compete on the open
market? If renewable energy can lower it's cost per kilo watt it would win. If
it can't it loses. Free Market econnomy is what built America it worked tell
Congress started messing with it. Opposite of Progress is?
Boo Hoo! Hatch and his buddies can't do anything because of the mean
democrats.GreatDane,Please make us a list of ALL the
proactive energy policies the repubs put forward when they WERE IN POWER.BTW: I'm an independent. Both parties are useless.
I hate to say it... but you are right. The question is whether others will see
the light, know their history, and dare to think.Good call, Tom
Vote out all the jerks that have been there over two terms!!Throw the bums out
that have raped this great country.THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!
The Republican solution to the energy problem is one of lining their own pockets
from the coffers of big oil. Republicans want to drill more, giving their big
oil friends more profits, and profiting themselves from their oil stocks and
from donations from big oil. Their solution is no solution at all, it's more of
the same. More Bush, more McCain, more Cheney, more Condie Rice.......and
thinking American people are tired of it
Democratic administrations have been responsible for the recovery after the
Depression, medicare, and the passage of civil rights. What have Republican
administrations ever done to make the US a more equitable, more enlightened
society? What Republicans stand for are money, big business, war profiteering,
fouling the environment, hypocrisy in their religion, and greed.
You people are clueless, we drill 20 new oil wells a week. You don't get the oil
industry. We are drilling. I have been here for 25 years and Reagan did the most
damage to the domestic oil fields. He passed laws that would not allow us to
build roads on BLM lands and he stopped oil production. Building a field and
getting manpower in place to move the oil takes years to set up. Our refineries
in SLC are so bad that any storm knocks them out of production. This comes from
Bush Sr. We have done more upgrading and drilling in the last 6 years then we
have in the previous 30. The current administration is interested in foreign oil
profits not domestic. We have the oil, and we have the ability to pull the oil.
Why doesn't Bush let us?
that was to re re tom pain by the way 9:38
re tom paineif your rant wasn't so pityful it would be hilariousyou must live in utah county and think mccain is a liberal and communists
still rule the world.
Please remember that the Republicans were in control for a very short time
(94-03). The rest of the time the Demos have been hard at work destroying this
Congress has known for 30+ years that there was an impending oil crisis - and
lobbyists for the oil companies, auto industry, etc. have kept congress from
acting.You want to find a scapegoat? Point your finger at ALL the
members of congress over the past several decades. Republicians and Democrats
are ALL guilty.
United we stand, United we fall. We as a people have eleceted poor officials. We
dont hold the officials accountable. Most politicians have private agendas to
benifit themselves. We have not been educated or involved on the issues. Get
involved on city, state, and national level. Demand results and change. What are
our state elected officials really doing? We need to become independant of
foreign oil, that means new drilling, new refineries. The enviromentalist need
to sell there cars, not use natural gas, walk or ride a bike everywhere, and
install solar panels, otherwise they are hypocrits that add to and have huge
carbon footprints. Lets get in the game people, dont let the minority control
Tell the truth on the "WHO IS" is directly responsible for the high oil prices -
it's - Union big Labor, radical groups like MoveOn.org, and George Soros hype
and pie-in-the-sky promises and other left-wing billionaires plus the media
filter that blanket candidate Barack Hussein Obama, sacrificing our economy at
the alter, that is - that's who.
The big oil Bush administration is directly responsible for the high oil prices.
Bush is directly tied to big oil and to the Saudi royal family. Cheney to big
oil and Haliburton. Condie Rice to big oil. If anyone believes that these people
have any empathy for people who are not in the same circles or on the same
socioeconomic level as themselves, then they need to think again. These people
care about 2 things, wealth and power, and they'll do whatever it takes to get
both. Even if that means running the US into the ground, which they've done.
It's only Republicans who are suffering from cognitive dissonance who don't
realize that fact.
this is really all the democrats faultthey wanted us to stop using whale
oil in 1905and we've been paying the price sincenow they want us to
find a source other then arab oil to power our country.
The issue is not oil, it's the general welfare of the american people. Why are
the politicians passing blame when they should all be united for the American
people? We need a united american policy, not a blame game that does noting but
cause more disention and problems. This is where the Bush Cartel should be
acting as leaders of a nation and not CEO's for business interests. This lack of
leadership is our problem and Obama, McCain, Clinton, and Romney offer nothing
better in leadership. The president should be thinking of a nation of people and
our security at home. America can not remain a nation of power without control
of its own territorial borders. A real national leader would be taking action
like embargos on foreign oil and stop illegal aliens openly and blatantly
violating our borders. An embargo would dump the price of oil to realistic
levels. If we americans must be held hostage at high oil prices then we might as
well take action to control our own course. Wars have taught the american people
to come together and it must happen again with this economic war. Be americans
first and demand America first leadership.
When Bush first took office, he had an energy plan that called for more
drilling. It was not passed because all the paranoid Bush haters said he only
wanted to make oil cos wealthy well guess what? The oil cos are making record
profits now. because supply is tight. If Bush's energy proposal had been
enacted we would be paying$2 for gas and the oil cos and OPEC would be making a
We need people willing to acknowledge that fault/blame lies on both sides of the
aisle. We need people in the Republican party who can stand up and say the
Republican party has lost its way and needs to return to its core values. We
need Democrats who can stand up and say "Let's look at all options" and stop
blocking every attempt at looking at those options. We need legislators who
know that even if it takes 5 or 10 years to see the full results, we need to act
NOW so in 5 or 10 years we're not paying $20/gallon at the pump and $5.00 for a
loaf of bread. I know of at least one candidate this election cycle who has
been willing to call a spade a spade. That man is Jason Chaffetz, who has long
said that many of the current Republican reps have abandoned their base and
their core principles. I'm excited to have him back in DC working on REAL
options to our energy crisis. It will be a tough road, though, when the other
party won't even come to the table.
Call Hatch ask him if he lost it. The stock market crash of 1987 was at least as
big as the stock market crash in 1929. But, instead of being followed by a Great
Depression, the 1987 crash was followed by 20 years of economic growth, with low
inflation and low unemployment. The Reagan administration did nothing in 1987,
despite outrage in the media at the government's failure to live up to its
responsibility, as seen in liberal quarters. But nothing was apparently what
needed to be done, so that markets could adjust. Nobody did anything. The last
thing politicians can do in an election year is nothing. So we can look for all
sorts of solutions by politicians of both parties. Like most political
solutions, these are likely to make matters worse. We have a supply problem in
oil; we've reached the tipping point at $4 + a gallon of gasoline, and you want
to stop any progress in adding to our supply so you can continue to demonize the
oil companies rather than participate in something that would be genuine
progress for the people who elected you and the rest of the people in this
You need to add water to water ever you are drinking. The Bush admin. got us
into this mess with their arrogant policies, etc. Demos have controlled congress
by one vote in the senate... which doesn't really let you control, does it.Drilling will get us new energy supplies in 10 years. Don't you think
there are other ways to get to the promised land than through spoiling what
little beauty is left to our grandchildren? How about conservation? Let's all
be quiet now while we hear the President lead us in discussions about slowing
down while driving, etc.Pretty quiet, eh. Bush is an oil man and he
is laughing at us. He will get a fat old seat on an oil company's board as soon
as he walks out of the white house. Probably $2M a year? Why not... he has
done their business.Here is a thought for the day: if Bush can make
the price go down, then why has he let it go up????Hurry Obama!!
Let's get honesty back into our government.
Although the Bush administration held secret meetings with the oil industry to
construct our national energy policy to stay dependent on oil, we're now blaming
the Democrats for high energy prices? Didn't Bush and Republicans oppose fuel
efficiency standards for the car industry? Didn't the Republicans opposed tax
incentives for renewable energy to set the stage for substitutes for oil?
Didn't Bush create tax incentives for small businesses to buy big SUVs and allow
them to write them off within a year to increase our oil consumption and
dependency? Hasn't the Bush Administration endorsed a weak dollar policy that
has made oil more expensive? Thus, after setting the stage to allow the oil
industry to enjoy significant profits and flooding our dollars to the Mideast,
we're now blaming Democrats for blocking measures that will only keep us
"addicted to oil" (Bush's 2006 State of the Union). We have to decide what our
future will look like in 10 years -- McCain's vision of continued oil addiction
(by drilling more) or by changing the game with domestic, price-stable renewable
energy sources (wind, solar, geothermal) touted by Obama. America must decide
what its future will be -- addiction or freedom! Your choice!
Its time the people we elect come up with an energy bill that allows us to drill
where there is oil, plus develop alternative fuel systems. Not having a
realistic electric car available is unacceptable.We need to stop relaying
on other countries to supply us with oil. And if takes replacing all the
Democrats in Washington so be it. We don't need to be turned into a
Socialist country. Let the people decide what they want, the polls show drill
Utahns are naive about politics.
So while the republicans had total control in years past it is the Democrats
fault that Republicans did nothing but pad their pockets! Throw out the Lazy
republicans and lets get this country back on top!It's time we take care
of our own instead of trying to fix the worlds problems!
Congress has defeated, within the last two months and along party lines,
off-shore drilling, coal gasification, ANWR drilling, shale development, and
some nuclear initiatives. To be specific, the Democrats voted against all of
them.Also, while gas doubled in the US, gas doubled in the EU as
well. Unless Exxon-Mobil and President Bush run the EU as well, the underlying
factor is something common to the US and the (enlightened) EU. The
Liberals and Environmentalists on an international basis want to cut off
carbon-based fuels and force a switch to wind and solar power, or what they call
renewables. As the supply gets constricted, the price rises. That restricts
driving, flying, and heating of homes to the wealthy. If you agree
with that philosophy, vote accordingly.
Hey "Throw 'em out," get a clue... maybe by studying up on the Constitution.
Step up and do something constructive, eh? Bishop and Hatch's point is that the
Senate and House are currently controlled by DEMOCRATS who are afraid of
"offending" their wacko-environmentalist supporters like Earth-First, Sierra
Club, Greenpeace, etc...and so they are not allowing VOTES on doing something
constructive!! They control the floor and the agenda. That's the whole point!
Americans voted in Democratic Congress and this is what we get... $5 a gallon
diesel fuel and no votes on drilling here at home or using clean coal....where
we have known reserves. Democratic leaders would rather we continue sending
$700 billion a year to the Middle East and to Hugo Chavez. Nancy Pelosi and
Harry Reid are fiddling while we all burn... paying $5 a gallon for diesel fuel
and then wonder why our economy is falling apart? Some of these environmental
groups are on record as supporting high fuel prices in a Darwinian model of
forcing us all to use mass transit, live in high-density housing, and wear
recycled cereal boxes. Wake up, people. Hatch and Bishop are right on....
DRILL, BABY, DRILL!!!
Well, that proves these guys are chuckleheads! Step up and do something
constructive. Time to throw them all out.
Republicans aren't responsible for anything. Why elect one? American needs
leaders that take responsibility.Do your part holding republicans
responsible by voting for Obama.