Texas still looking for 5 indicted FLDS men

Agency involved in YFZ raid feels vindicated

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  • Stupidities
    Aug. 10, 2008 1:36 p.m.

    "Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards and ran away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves and nobody else."

    "They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?"

    "These men are running for the same reason Warren Jeffs was."

    "You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong."

    "I think it is so funny how the FLDS men hide. Proof they know what they are doing is wrong"

  • son of perdition
    July 28, 2008 8:46 a.m.

    I think it is so funny how the FLDS men hide. Proof they know what they are doing is wrong

  • Lilathe
    July 26, 2008 11:20 p.m.

    Not saying who they indicted then accusing the "secret" men of running away or hiding is just plain silly. How can a "secret" man run away from a "secret" indictment?
    The FLDS should just have every single FLDS man show up at the police station in whatever state they are currently in, to ask if there are any indictments against them.
    Then again, the indictments are "secret" and it might even be Baptist men that were indicted, so maybe every Baptist should show up at the Police station tomorrow to be sure they aren't being accused of "running away" or "hiding" from their indictments.

  • FOREVER
    July 25, 2008 1:22 a.m.

    I love FLDS,coz FLDS means FOREVER LDS.REMEMBER that!FLDS ppl are humble and honest.They are not expert in all kind of showing off as their cousins ,LDS do.But most of all their faith will grow stronger in this trying times.God bless ppl who are poor in spirit.Dont judge anyone.Let GOD do the job.

  • Cats Meow
    July 24, 2008 10:41 p.m.

    Sorry, I don't believe in God or the after life. There is no evidence to support either one, so anyone that believes in God or the afterlife is just as gullible and brainwashed as they claim Jeffs' followers are. I could care less if The Pope, Monson, Jeffs, or your uncle claim to be a prophet. As far as I'm concerned, they are all schizophrenic if they claim to get visions.

    It appears that those people who are so vindictive towards the FLDS are just as brainwashed and mislead as they seem to think the FLDS are. Who is doing the misleading? The Jessop girls, and the media looking for a nice juicy story to sell.

    People have been after this group for decades. Almost a century now, and all they can get is Jeffs marrying a 14 year old to someone 5 years older. Geez, that's BARELY illegal. Where are these cases of 69 years olds marrying 12 year olds? That's what they need to be going after. So far, all anyone has found out in Texas is this group doesn't beat their kids, they don't milk welfare, and the underage pregnant girls really aren't underage or pregnant.

  • jjcbnl
    July 24, 2008 9:10 p.m.

    It looks like "the wicked persue and no man flee-eth"

  • Interloper
    July 24, 2008 9:09 p.m.

    The FLDS supports racial discrimination and misogyny in addition to sexual and other abuse of children. There is no reason for any person concerned about right and wrong to 'walk a mile in their shoes.' If we did, we would be willing participants in the same wrongs they are. The FLDS men currently on the lam deserve fair trials, not the sympathy of their fellow Americans.

  • jjcbnl
    July 24, 2008 9:01 p.m.

    It seems like "the wicked persue and no man flee-eth

  • re: one tree
    July 24, 2008 8:35 p.m.

    I'd complain to your FLDS school teachers for your grammar skills (or lack of). Aside from that, the FLDS don't follow the teachings of Joseph Smith, or they'd all be out on missions sharing their version of the restored gospel. They also wouldn't be ignoring the laws of the land nor would they be hiding out and ripping husbands away from their wives and children. They also wouldn't be deserting their young men on the sides of the road nor would their "prophet" be arranging and FORCING marriages. They also wouldn't be stealing and lying (welfare fraud).

  • ONE TREE
    July 24, 2008 8:09 p.m.

    FLDS is just victim .I am not FLDS or LDS.As i see it FLDS is only trying to be faithfull to JOSEPH SMITH.They trust him and regard him as a true prophet.They dont believe in new laws from the later leaders. They hate laws that change easily,like LDS practice from time to time.They think GOD's laws they got from the prophet as most important.It make them carry on doing it until now.So LDS,DONT make FLDS like anemy.Try putting yourselves in their shoes.After all you are all from the same tree and root.Indeed,you need to help and try to make them realize that they need to change. Change for the better!

  • nosugrof
    July 24, 2008 6:56 p.m.

    awesomerun: A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. Why hasnt Rozita Swinton been arrested? She broke the law.

  • re: truth will prevail
    July 24, 2008 6:23 p.m.

    If no one is running, WHERE IS MERRILL JESSOP? Hiding like a scared rabbit? He should be. Anyone who condones and participates in child rape should be behind bars. I'm sorry if that's difficult for you to comprehend.

  • Go Texas
    July 24, 2008 6:15 p.m.

    To Think!!! I don't have to look over my shoulder. I am not abusing little girls and boys and stealing from my fellow man all in the name of "Religion". Also, the grand jury has evidence, Remember, all the DNA that will show the messed up family tree with the evidence of child rape, incest and who knows what else. I hope when they find these men, and I suspect more names will be added to this list, they return for the mothers that sat back and allowed all this abuse to happen. I am proud to live in Texas.

  • CP
    July 24, 2008 3:01 p.m.

    To "Think". I don't need to look over my shoulder. I'm not taking away anybody's rights. I just stated my opinion about Warren Jeffs and those that follow him. He took away rights of others not me. So you need to think - "Think". He already confessed that he's a FALSE PROPHET. those were his own words - not mine.

  • realitycheck
    July 24, 2008 2:46 p.m.

    wow - the FLDS is out in numbers here today. Good showing.....

    But of course you were going to get caught. You can't violate the civil rights of hundreds (thousands?) of women and children, and some men, for your own goals - regardless of how religious you think it is.

    and it sounds like "Justice? 12:52pm" has had some bad experiences with the law. Well, hey - try obeying the law and you won't have these problems. I'm still amused by those posters saying "how would you like CPS to break into your house..." I have no problem with that - I have nothing to hide!

    You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong. And I don't mean polygamy. No one cares about that. Have 5 wives and 100 children. Just get off your ass and support them, studman. Don't be a state-supported wuss.

    And stop restricting the civil rights of your followers. There is NOTHING god-like about that. It's just stupid. You FLDS are giving law-abiding polygamists a really bad name. They do it because it's fun, and they obey all other laws - and they SUPORT THEIR FAMILY. How about you try that?

  • TO IT'S OBVIOUS
    July 24, 2008 2:26 p.m.

    Looks like you got it right.

  • WashCo
    July 24, 2008 1:26 p.m.

    I really dislike Harry Reid, but for once he is right. This really is an evil empire. I have a friend whose wife and children were taken away from him and given to a more "worthy" (spelled money in Warren's pocket) man. He has looked for them for five years but no luck. Religion is a minor part of what is going on there. Money and power is the overriding. Watch the hearings for the "bleeding the beast" details. Good insight into true FLDS religion.

  • Justice?
    July 24, 2008 12:52 p.m.

    No Justice
    Cops and the Judicial System are the sneaky bunch
    Cops are no longer fit to live in society
    They have a chance to go to IRAQ, and to chicken to do it
    While others are going 14 times over
    to Iraq

  • It's Obvious
    July 24, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    They are looking for Merril Jessop, Raymond Jessop, Leroy Jessop, and Wendell Nielsen.

  • Dogs
    July 24, 2008 10:31 a.m.

    What do dogs do? Breed and bark.

  • Saving Face
    July 24, 2008 10:30 a.m.

    The grand jury has no reason to recommend indictment except on the basis of the evidence and testimony the are given.

    There will be challenges to the acceptability of the evidence seized, but, in the end, it will be determined that Texas law enforcement acted in good faith in executing the search warrant.

  • Cats
    July 24, 2008 10:22 a.m.

    To "Cats Meow:" I am under the impression that you think that childish blog you put up is quite clever?

    Nobody is fooled by the propoganda you are putting out. Apparently my blog, pointing out the fact that Warren Jeffs has PUBLICLY announced that he is a FALSE PROPHET, really hit home.

    OUCH!!!

  • To Cats meow;
    July 24, 2008 10:16 a.m.

    I don't believe for one minute that Flora, Elissa and Carolyn and others are evil. They are very courageous women and are tying to help their relatives get out of this terrible mess they are in.

  • CommonSenseIsNotSoCommon
    July 24, 2008 10:10 a.m.

    As I have said in the past, if there really are underage marriages going on withing the FLDS, Texas obtained the evidence illegally. Texas should have done this legally so any might-be-criminals don't get away on a legal technicality. Of course, the CPS thought they had a valid warrant, but common sense said otherwise.

    We see perfectly good evidence being thrown out time and time again with drug raids. The laws aren't going to change for this group, and the laws shouldn't change. It is more important to protect and preserve the freedom of millions of American children than it is to take these freedoms from our children just so we can get a few men who might have harmed a few children.

    I know its aggravating, but it's these types of freedoms our men in arms have died for. So many Americans don't understand that the government raids and seizures that happen in communist countries are never done in the name of power. They are always done in the name of protecting the children or the public, or even in the name of defending freedom.

  • re:Repent
    July 24, 2008 9:49 a.m.

    uummm.. the hammer apparently swings both ways.

  • Bruce
    July 24, 2008 9:42 a.m.

    A grand jury would indeed indict a grilled cheese sandwich. They have to do something to try and save face.
    It will be interesting if a case actually goes to trial. The first thing will be motions to suppress evidence as being illegally obtained. That will force the Texas Rangers to come clean on the Rozitta Swinton thing and why she hasn't been arrested.
    The Texas dog and pony show continues....

  • Think!!!!
    July 24, 2008 9:29 a.m.

    CP: Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards and ran away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves and nobody else.
    ____________________________________________

    Hmmmmmmm. So far they have not said "WHO???" should be running. Better watch out!! MAYBE IT IS YOU!! THAT SHOULD BE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER AFTER ALL IF ONE AMERICANS' RELIGION IS TRAMPLED--EVERYONES RIGHTS ARE IN DANGER!!!

  • Karl
    July 24, 2008 9:20 a.m.

    Sure, many people do have a family history of polygamy.

    The laws of the land, and the realization that the practice of polygamy is not good for chidren, women, and society in general has had the American people moving away from this destructive practice.

    In this day and age, polygamy has become something much different than the days of old anyhow.

    It is a blight upon human rights and goodness.

  • Cats Meow
    July 24, 2008 9:10 a.m.

    Once again, the public is blogging to try to convince the rest of us that there are victims of a terrible injustice.

    I would agree. The public is victim. They are victims of many years of following Flora and Carolyn's exaggerations and being brainwashed into believing that the FLDS are evil. These poor people are victims of lies and control from the evil and corrupt Flora, Carolyn and Elissa who have used them to further their own ends.

  • Repent
    July 24, 2008 8:43 a.m.

    I don't know of the FLDS but I can read these comments and I can judge the mentality of the writers.
    Read some of the comments of the people around Narvoo, IL and you will witness the same hate against the LDS.
    Does anyone want to have a go at anyone who is religious? That's very popular right now.

  • nottyou
    July 24, 2008 8:38 a.m.

    I sure would like to see some women arrested for their roles in allowing child abuse exist in their homes. They are just as responsible for letting this go on.

  • Anonymous
    July 24, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    While I do not believe that polygamy, underage marriages/sex, child abuse, etc are good ideas, can we take a moment and realize that a large majority of people reading this article have a family heritag of polygamy? You may not feel that your ancestors were guilty of "abuse" because they were practicing their religious beliefs. Many of those men and church leaders were forced into hiding as well. Many people still think the mainstream LDS members are brainwashed and led by a false prophet. Before passing too much judgment, stop and think.

  • Txmom
    July 24, 2008 8:08 a.m.

    Just so that everyone knows: Texas is still in the planning stages of trying to find these guys. That means they haven't even started looking for them or even told their lawyers that they are wanted. It's hard to turn yourself in when you don't know you are suppose to turn yourself in. Are they running? We don't know yet because we haven't starting looking for them yet! Just out the San Angelo local paper and the sheriff says as such-- still planning stages!!

  • CP
    July 24, 2008 7:24 a.m.

    This is for "to all readers of this article" posted at 1:13am. IF you believe the stuff that has been posted on the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL then that's your business. But I think it's a bunch of junk to brainwash the public like it apparently has done to you. Hello get a grip on reality!! Warren Jeffs went into hiding for many years cause he didn't want to be caught WHY you ask-- cause he knew and knows that he was doing wrong and would get into deep water if ever caught. Well he was caught. And look where he is now. He even admitted he was a False Prophet and Wrong! The FLDS men now leading this bunch still think as Jeffs did so why are you believing the junk posted on their website? These men are running for the same reason Warren Jeffs was. You need to dig a little deeper into the facts and WAKE UP!

  • Untruth will Fail
    July 24, 2008 7:09 a.m.

    The public is fast losing any sympathy they've had for the plight of the FLDS because of their attempts to smear anyone who disagrees with their "right" to sexually abuse young girls.

    Just because the FLDS have been conned by a "prophet," who is really just a convicted child-abusing felon, into believing that this is what God wants them to do is no excuse. FORCING 12- to 16-year-old girls into sexual relations is sick and disgusting.

  • re: Truth Will Prevail
    July 24, 2008 6:51 a.m.

    go away. go away you hilldale hillbilly. Polygamy is against the law. Why do you feel you need to post everytime anything is written on this subject? Your constant campaigning only makes things worse for your band of hillbillies.

  • disguise taken
    July 24, 2008 5:34 a.m.

    I wouldn't recommend the hippy beard glasses ant "therapist" routine, Radovan Karadic was discovered behind that one.
    They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?

  • Joey
    July 24, 2008 5:31 a.m.

    Malonis is being evasive. The fact is, as the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL blog site shows, court documents reveal some very telling things about Malonis' character with regard to matters of child custody.
    As for Teresa's reaching the age of consent, I don't see how that's irrelevant as Malonis claims. If CPS and Malonis' reason for keeping Malonis on as Teresa's attorney is to prevent her relationship with an adult, then that argument becomes moot on Saturday, since she can legally have a sexual relationship with an adult once she's 17 yrs. old. Trying to protect her from that is just silly and/or disengenuous.

  • Cats
    July 24, 2008 5:26 a.m.

    One again, the FLDS are blogging to try to convince the rest of us that they are victims of a terrible injustice.

    I would agree. They are victims. They are victims of many years of following false prophets and being brainwashed into believing that they are living a "higher law." These poor people are victims of lies and control from evil and corrupt leaders who have used them to further their own ends.

    Since Warren Jeffs has publicly admitted that he is a FALSE PROPHET, I'm sure that leaves these people not knowing where to turn. After all these years of mind control, I'm sure it is pretty hard to face the truth.

    I applaud the Texas authorities and Mark Shurtleff for finally attempting to prosecute these men for their crimes. There are many TRUE VICTIMS who need justice. There are many lost people who truly need help.

  • awesomeron
    July 24, 2008 3:22 a.m.

    If they did not have a case they would not have an indictment.

  • to all readers of this article
    July 24, 2008 1:13 a.m.

    look at TRUTH WILL PREVAIL. No one is running. Deseret News look at the facts. The officers haven't even started to search. They don't have a case until someone testifies. They don't want to find the "unknown" men until they can build a case against them. They haven't even looked at the Ranch yet. This is just a media ploy to salvage their case in the public mind. Dig a little deeper into the facts.

  • CP
    July 24, 2008 12:44 a.m.

    Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards and ran away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves and nobody else. I hope they get caught and get what they deserve. Time to pay the piper cowardly FLDS men. Come out where ever you are...cause just like Jeffs you will be found.