I hate to break it to you CJ Miles fans, but he is gone. HOWEVER, I think the
Jazz will agree to a sign and trade with OKC rather then lose a young guy for
nothing. Don't be surprised if we get back a conditional 1st or 2nd round draft
pick and force them to take Jarron Collins' bad contract too. Remember if the
Jazz can't move AK then the payroll has to be shed for next summer when D-Will's
max contract kicks in and Millsap is due a new contract. Harpring makes too much
money for what he produces now, and Brevin Knight gives the Jazz someone that
can scurry down the court, start up the offense and pester the Chris Paul's of
the leage. We have to have someone to play against ever player on the Hornets
roster, because the Jazz will be battling them for the next 10 years
basketcase, i was about to slam you for your comments til I read the last part
haha! This was, indeed, a very good trade!
This is a sad, sad day for the Utah Jazz franchise. Not only did they trade
away their best young talent, all they got in return was a battle-tested
Stanford graduate who has hung around the league for eleven years. Jason Hart
has been the heart (pun intended) of the Jazz for over a year now. He
contributed valuable minutes in the playoffs and helped bring along Deron
Williams. Deron would not be half the player he is now without Hart's loving
guidance. This is the biggest mistake in Jazz history. Hart will be a future
Hall-of-famer. Mark my words. By the way, did anyone beleive any of that?
This is a smart trade, and it was made for financial reasons and for the fans.
Hart was one of the most disliked Jazz players going into this offseason. He is
also set to make $2.5 next year. Knight has a good reputation, and he makes only
a little more than league minimum. Smart financial trade and one to make the
fans happy.I think this is the start of something bigger. Knight is
much easier to move than Hart due to his contract and his reputation as a decent
backup PG. One team would be a perfect trade partner. The Cavs need PG depth,
need another good player and they have Wally's expiring contract. Utah should
trade AK, Knight and Collins for Wally and Varejao. The Cavs are trying to dump
Varejao, and AK would help Cleveland on a lot of levels. The financial situation
next summer would be much clearer for Utah with only Varejao coming back ($6.2)
as opposed to AK ($16.5).Before or after this trade, Utah would
pickup the option on CJ.
JHart was great for the Clips after Livingston blew out his knee in 06-07. He
started the final 20 something games and played very well....that's why the jazz
paid him 2.3 last year with the option for 2.5 this year--clearly something
they'd redo if they could. So, Hart had NO value here or to 28 other teams...And amazingly, the Jazz were able to...1. Cut there annual salary
by 750 K2. Get rid of their worst player (on the court and in the locker
room)3. Obtain a PG that three years ago was a top five assist and steals
guyAnd some of you fans still aren't happy?....Seriously?As mentioned, I guess some people won't be happy until we find a way to get
Lebron for Jarron Collins.Most importantly, this trade signals that
CJ Miles is going to be staying in Utah (You really have no idea how important
that is). CJ WILL BE AN ALL STAR IN FOUR YEARS. Seriously. Quick, name all the
6-7 super athletic guys who can shoot the 3, create their own shot, and defend.
Don't forget, he's only 21.Great move O'Conner. Amazed you pulled this one
i love hart why did those idiots trade him
Hart had to go I guess. at least we got something in return. I think he may be a
great fit for the jazz sort of like korver fit in.
How could anyone hate Fes, he is a good young player and only going to get
better. What do you people want? Someone says get Dwight Howard, never going
to happen, and then someone says even he isn't good enough for the Jazz. Maybe
we should get some combo of Wilt, Bill Russell, Shaq, Kareem and George Mikan in
their prime and create a perfect center, some idiot fan would still complain.
@Sports insanity: Use Hart as part of a bigger trade? Ha! No one would want to
pay Hart 2.3 mil as a reserve. Why the Clips want to downgrade at PG and pay
more $$$ is beyond understanding.To CJ fans: I think we can bag the
idea that the Jazz will match CJ's OKC offer. The Jazz's tendered offer was
approx. 1.2 mil and OKC's offer was almost 4 mil/yr. If my math is correct,
$700k isn't going keep CJ around. Even if the Jazz did have the cap room, I
still don't think CJ is worth $4 mil/year as a reserve.@magnus:
Interesting...Jazz should try those line-ups.
Mr. Sports Insanity, Esquire, maybe you should learn to read facts before making
comments. Who would want Hart in a package deal? Nobody! For a bigger name?
Are you out of your mind? Oh, I've got a deal: Collins, Hart, and Harpring for
LeBron. I'm sure the Cavs would do it in a "Hart" beat. Let's be serious- who
else in the league would want him aside from the ever gracious Clippers? The
only other viable option was to buy Hart out, and that still would have counted
against the cap. Knight only has one year left on his deal too smart one, and
for $700,000 less. It's an incredibly low risk investment by the Jazz, plus
he's a much better insurance for the Jazz if D-Will were to ever have any sort
of injury (heaven forbid) over "my car is scratched, I'm gonna cry" Hart. It
frees up cap space to perhaps keep CJ or whatever else KOC has up his sleeve.Go Jazz! 2009 Champs! Get a big body and show us the title!
If only we can trade Collins/Harpring for Biedrins or Ratliff and match Miles
offer we would be set for good run.
Is it me or everyone but the jazz that are making the big trades, the one that
will win the western con or even go to the NBA finals, have a NBA MVP or even a
All-star on the team. I believe the jazz "ORGANIZATION" is racist towards
bringing in a big player like allen iverson,tracy mcgrady,elton brand. So what
if they attract a media frenzy! Are we all in it to win the big one, to me the
jazz are in walking distance to bring home the first championship. Only if they
get that "BIG NAME", but time is running out, they have to react now. because
boston,lakers,& sun's are getting to a point were we are just going to be to far
this is the first time i've really read many comments on a desnews article, but
it is great to see that many other fans out there share the feelings of me and
all of my bigtime Jazz fans,Hart was so painful to watch, especially
when he was our 2nd string.And Collins really is worthless.bottom line= upgrade at 3rd PG helps, but isnt huge, If we can get memo
or booze to play a little defense, and avoid the Lakers in the Playoffs, we have
a good shot at the finals
I think this is a good trade overall. While I didn't like necessarily Hart's
performance on the court (or his shot), I appreciated his professionalism. He
always played hard (not necessarily well but hard) and he didn't sulk and moan
when Ronnie Price took over his spot (e.g. Gordon). So thanks for your
professionalism, Jason, and good luck with the Clips (except when playing the
Jazz fans this trade means nothing, & right now we should be thinking about how
we can bring in a big player for miles/millsap/collins & maybe get a decent
center. We are very close to a title & I think the missing link is a center & a
shooting guard. Or am I the only one that see's this! And also home court in the
playoffs would help to.
Brevin is solid - and certainly an upgrade over Hart.Brevin has
career averages of 7.9 points, 6.6 assists, 2.6 rebounds and 1.77 steals per
game. He ranked second in the NBA in assists-per-turnover (4.62),
and third in steals per turnover (2.87) last year. Very solid numbers last year
overall.Brevin will push Ronnie Price to improve as well.I like it.
The Seattle Jazz? How 'bout the Salt Lake Seahawks?
Wassup Bro. Fesenko is worse than Ostertag, Felton Spencer, and Luther Wright
combined. Seattle: That has to be the most idiotic comment of the
week. How 'bout the Salt Lake Seahawks?
Brevin Knight, like Hart, is in the final year of his contract this year. The
Jazz save money and add a veteran backup who has started in the league on more
than one team. This looks to be a positive move for the team because it frees up
salary cap space without sacrificing quality on the floor.
Let's see, The Jazz still have:1) a starting shooting
guard that can't shoot the ball2) a center who would rather jack up 10
3-pointers a game than make one post-up move3) a lanky small forward who
plays a million times better when he was a power forward, but he can't play
power forward because of4) a starting power forward who has the defensive
toughness of a mushroomBut hey, with this trade the 3rd string PG is
now slightly better than the 3rd string PG last year.All I can say
is "Thank Zeus for D-Will."
Oh, yea, you think Salt Lake has a noodle for a mayor, try Greg Nickles on for
size. He's so PC he doesn't know if we should have an NBA team or tear the roof
off Key Arena and plant a virtual rainforest.
Who cares. Larry Miller should sell the team to someone in Seattle. It's high
time we get rid of the NBA in Utah. The Seattle Jazz in 2010.
Glad to finally meet my brother. Who would have thought it would be on a d-news
message board. Fesenko Hater 1
I like Teen Wolf, but I'd ask for some Marshmellow Maties over Lucky Charms!
This trade was a favor to Hart, if you ask me.Anyone who thinks
Knight brings anything to the table should ask why C. J. Miles makes almost 4
million a year and Knight 1.6 million.This does nothing to improve
the team.Like I said, a personal favor to Hart.Best of
luck, Jason. Too bad this did not work out.
The person's comment about the Teen Wolf tape and Lucky Charms was good. I like
If this clown wasn't 7'1 he would be packing sardines in the Ukraine. I would
welcome Plaisted over this no talent fool.
we should have thrown in collins.
People, get your facts straight. The Jazz like to carry three PGs. Trade Okur
and Booz? Where will the scoring come from? Howard scores from three feet and
in. What is his foul shooting %? Let's add some solid facts that relate to the
Jazz scheme and team offense and D. Think about it before you post. You can
never tell, a real good idea may come from the inter-action. Study the depth
charts that are listed on some other sites as well as the Jazz depth chart. The
current chart on Fox sports lists the two players the Jazz have over there who
could be on the roster next year. Let's give the Jazz staff some credit. Their
crystal ball is just a little better than ours! GO JAZZ!
There reasons for this trade. 1. Hart has an expiring contract.2.
Hart knows the Clipper system and Org well and he did well there. 3. Hart
plays well every other year. 4. Hart may fit in with Davis, Camby and the
remade Clips better than Knight. I think that Knight will help the
Jazz a little. So far Fes and Koufos have not played well in the
Revue but that is partly because the PG play has been pretty poor. They are not
getting the ball in the right place at the right time. Fes and Koufos both may
be able to help out during the regular season if they have the right PG.
I'm the original Fes hater. That dude is going nowhere. I know I'm not the
only one who KNOWS the Jazz can do 10x better.
Knight strikes me as the sort that could come alive in Sloan's system, like
Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley did. Hey, you know who I miss?
Greg Foster. He was a pepper of a fellow.
Helen-Take a closer look. This trade could knock your eyes out.
WOW magnus, maybe sloan will read this and you can get a check from the jazz.
This is a great trade just to release some cap room and sorry, miles will not
play for the jazz again. Too immature for sloan. We need one more veteran and we
should be in good shape, at least this year.
I would not be surprised to see the Jazz waive or buy out Brevin Knight. After
all, do you want him to get more minutes or take minutes from Ronnie Price?
Will someone explaint to me what a "true point guard" is? Is that code for
passing point guard? Does that make Jason Kidd a true point guard and Deron
Williams a scoring point guard? I just don't understand what O'Conner could do
to make some people happy. He just rid the Jazz of one of the two most painful
players in the NBA to watch (collins being the other) and some are still
complaining? Come on! The fact that we got a veteran that can help Price to get
better in the locker room and on the court for less of a price than Hart, is an
amazing move to pull off!!!
I can not believe that this much excitement has been generated over a trade that
involves our 12th or 13th man for a player that will likely be our 3rd PG.
Neither player is going to bring a ring to SLC, so every one needs to calm down
their excitement. The only way this makes any sort of a difference
for the Jazz is if they are using the money saved to pursue someone else
(Miles?). Other than that, who cares?As for the idea that some
player who was undrafted, yet to be signed with any team after a year or two
out of college, and playing against a bunch of other mostly undrafted, unsigned
players in the Revue is going to really make difference is laughable. If any
unsigned player in the Revue was going to really make a measurable difference
for the Jazz they would have already have a contract somewhere.
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Hart made 2.3 million last year? Are you kidding me? I am
sure that he is a really nice guy. But there is no way he belongs on an NBA
team. So I guess the Clipper will be perfect fit. Brevin has always been atleast
decent. I will be very comfortable with him at the 3rd PG spot.
sports insanity, did you already forget the Korver for Giricek trade? How was
that pointless?Have you ever seen Brevin Knight play? He is a
perfect fit for the Jazz system. He is a laser-accurate passer who is extremely
likely to fit like a fish in water with the Jazz.His only negatives
are his age and his size, which at back-up guard are really not a major
issue.It not a franchise-changing trade, but it's a good one that
may pay off nicely.
I like this trade. Only about 500k better in the salary department but Knight
is a smart pass first veteran PG with great defensive skills. I
would think that Price would play 2 guard before Knight. Knight is a pure point
guard and couldn't throw it in the ocean from three point land, were as Price is
a more natural shooter and scorer but not as good a passer.As it
stands now here's what I think the depth chart looks like for the Jazz.PG: Williams Price KnightSG: Brewer Korver Almond?SF: Kirilenko
Harpring PF: Boozer MillsapC: Okur Collins/Fesenko?/Koufos?That really is a pretty strong lineup with one gaping hole at backup
center. I think Almond Fes and Kosta will all spend time in the D-League this
year, Fes is in the best position to make some noise if he will just apply
himself.Here are some lineups that I think the Jazz should try in
small doses:Small ball: Williams, Korver/Price, Brewer, AK,
Millsap. Play Zone and run run run, 8SOL.Big Ball: Williams, AK,
Millsap, Boozer, Okur. Bigger Ball: Williams, AK, Millsap, Okur,
Fesenko. Zone Buster: Williams, Price, Korver, Kirilenko, Okur.
Why would the Clippers give up Knight for a guy they had on their roster the
year before and couldn't beat out Price for the backup point position? Think
about this everyone.
I still miss Dee Brown!
I wouldn't call this swapping 13th players. Brevin started later in the season.
He's a solid player.
I am surprised that the Clips took Hart straight up for BK. The Clips must have
seen something they liked the first time around they had Hart? But, then again
this is the same team that drafted Michael Olowokandi, Reggie Williams, Bo
Kimble, Elmore Spencer, Danny Ferry, Randy Woods, Darius Miles, Maurice Taylor,
and everybody's favorite rolly pully Benoit Benjamin.As for the
Jazz, BK was one PG I wanted the Jazz to pickup to backup D-Will. BK will
provide effective minutes behind Deron. I can see Sloan playing Ronnie and BK
together in the 2nd quarter. Good fit. Jazz player all the way. Now to rid
ourselves of Jarron Collins.
SWEET! Now trade Collins for a box of cracker Jacks and a Happy meal and our
team will be looking great!
of trading your old socks to some guy for his old tie. I am not impressed with
Hart OR Knight.
stop the presses
Why the Jazz are the Jazz and the Clippers are the Clippers. Only a fool would
take Hart, and even if he's old, Brevin Knight is WAAAAY better than Hart could
ever hope to be. GO JAZZ. Maybe we can get the Magic to trade us Dwight Howard
straight up for Memo or Boozer. Hell, come to think of it, maybe the Jazz could
trade both of them for Howard.
This is not like getting Pargo. Don't expect too much but Knight should know how
to run an offense and improve the eff of the second team a little.I
wonder if Price may be traded if Knight does well?
You think it is funny to hear Booner try to pronounce it? The only pronouncer
worse than Hot Rod is Harry Carey! I can't wait to see what funny name Hot Rod
comes up with for Brevin.
This a great move cause Brevin is a good true point guard and should take Prices
minutes. I like Price but he is not a true point guard.
a typical pointless trade by the jazz, that does nothing for either team.I would rather hart be used as part of a bigger trade for big name.but maybe it will be easier to user brevin in such a trade.why would the clippers want hart over brevin?clearly the jazz just
got a longer contract to deal with with and an equally unproductive player. Why
else has brevin played for so many teams?That should be a big
warning flag! Apparently the Jazz didn't learn their lesson with hart.
A good and necessary move, but is there more coming? Maybe the Jazz can trade
away floppin' Collins, ball hoggin' Almond and clownin' Fesenko for a back up
center with some experience who can block shots, rebound, and has a move or two
in the low post. I hope they make this move soon, like now, so the Jazz can
match C.J.'s offer from the Thunder [Down Under].
Is this two GM's bored out of their minds? Granted, it looks like we got the
better end of the deal. But don't you think both teams have more pressing
issues than swapping their 13th guys? You know how little kids swap lunchstuffs
in the cafeteria? "I'll give you my twinkie for your pretzels and Capri Sun..."
This trade is like swapping napkins.
This is a solid move...mostly because it sheds about $500,000 for the cap.
Perhaps this a move that might better enable the Jazz to match the CJ Miles
offer. I like Carroll and Brazleton (although last night could've been an
anomaly), but Knight is a pure point guard who is a solid passer with a low
turnover rate. He won't play a whole lot but has the ability to step in if
Deron has foul trouble. Just a year ago, he averaged 7 apg (9 apg each of the
two seasons before). Great move!
Poor mans Stock, a true point. a defupgrade over hart w/ the exception of
being a little injury prone and not as good a defender. good assist guy that can
create for his teammates. price is more of a 2-guard anyways and will find pt
somehow because of the energy he brings off the bench. good move.
Terrific news.No more watching Hart come in, dribble out the clock,
and chuck up a bad shot before the end of the quarter. Guy just never seemed to
know what he was doing in the Jazz system. Price was always better.Let's hope Knight can do something?I think he'd have to work had
to do worse than Hart did.
I had been having a terrible day............UP TILL NOW! I don't have to hear a
player complain about his kids "riding too low" anymore or see him take that
awkward looking jumpshot at the end of quarters.Knight is making
less than Hart is and he can't possibly be any worse. A win all the way around.
The way I see it, Hart sucked big time.
This saves the jazz about 700,000 dollars in money. Hart made 2.3 million, and
knight made about 1.6 million. Maybe this is a move to free up some money to
match the offer to Miles.(Just a Thought.)
"Maybe Knight will play SG?"Please don't give Sloan any ideas.
Brevin doesn't shoot well at all and he's only 5 9.He'll be a
serviceable backup though.
This move save the jazz about 750,000 in money. Hart made 2.3 million last
year, and knight made 1.6 million. Maybe this creates some space to match the
offer to miles.(Just a thought.)
The best thing about this trade is that Booner doesn't seem to be able to
pronounce "Brevin". It sounds like he calls him "Breverin". That should be
enjoyable to listen to.
Thank you, Kevin O Conner. Now lets go to work to fill that gaping hole in the
The Jazz are now Hart less and I love it. A nice move for the Jazz. Jazz =
2009 World Champions. GO JAZZ!!!!!!
Hey wakesomething: Have you lost your mind? Brazelton??? He can't get the
offense going in the first 14 seconds.....or have you NOT watched any of the
Revue? He looked like a deer caught in a car's headlights against the Iranian
National Team in the 1st quarter.....Brevin Knight is a QUALITY pickup as a
I TOLD you that if you paid your Tithing you'd be blessed! This is
WONDERFUL, like when the doctor removes that big 'ol hairy wart off of your
The salaries are about the same but Knight's wp48 numbers are far better. Over
several years, Hart had a couple of very good years interspersed with very poor
ones. Knight has also bounced around a lot of teams. Knight is small
but may be a pesky defender which could help. He has a lot of experience at PG.
On balance this looks like a mild positive for the Jazz.
O'Connor could have traded Hart for a VHS tape of Teen Wolf and half a box of
Lucky Charms and I would be happy. Price should still be back up PG.
We may have questions about Knight, but we have all the answers on Hart.Buh-bye. I'd say thanks for playing, but can we really call
what Hart did "playing"?
I dont even know who Brevin Knight is but this is the best news I've heard all
Way to go Kevin OConner!! This is a great upgrade over Hart. Hart was lucky to
make the team honestly, where as Brevin is a proven backup point guard. Nice
upgrade for nothing, this will improve the Jazz as D Will wasn't allowed to rest
in the playoffs because the drop off was so great when the backup came into the
game. Move over Ronnie Price, I like you and you are a nice guy, but you now
have competition for minutes.
The Utah Jazz probably have the strongest showing at the point guard in the
whole league now. Maybe Knight will play SG? Either way, I think this was a
great trade, and it's good to see Kevin O' Conner is actively trying to make the
YEEEEEEEEEES!!! I've never been more happy! A peice of cement would have been
worth trading Hart for! This is great.
Wow, not much for not much in return. Why didn't we just buy out Hart to give
us more options. I would rather see Brazelton from the Revue get a shot or
Jaycee Carol in the mix. If this is Utah being "aggressive" this summer than I
have lost hope in this trading season.
So what was the point behind this trade?
Brevin Knight may not be as good as he used to be, but at least he is not Jason
If this is a dream PLEASE DONT WAKE ME!!!!!!!!!!!! Brevin Knight for Hart?
see ya hart