He is blaming them for a leak about female intern
I am appalled by the actions of Greg Curtis and the timing of this "media leak."
It is clear that he is out to get Steve Mascaro. I'm sure he is also trying to
discredit Sheryl Allen as well for trying to do the Right thing by having an
ethics investigation of the legislature. It makes me wonder what Greg Curtis
has to hide?
I am a GOP County level Delegate and have been continually embarassed by my
party this year. Shame on our leadership and the Legislative leaders who allowed
this to happen. Mascaro is a fine, decent man and one of the few I have been
able to count on in the Legistlature. I am embarrased by Walker and Chaffetz for
that matter.We can do better!
Wow, another RINO problem...go figure. Maybe after all the facts are in on this,
it will just be another page in the scheme of "Life On The Hill" sounds like a
novel, with a never ending chapter. Throw the bums out, clean house, help
write the obituary on those dasderly Repubies. Course then you fillit with
demmies, oh my gosh are we in trouble.
this is exactly how the current gop leadership acts. they claim moral
superiority thru self-annointed virtue, then visciously attack any who oppose
them. i'm not sure about the whole mascaro business, but it seems interesting
that with curtis and the gop leadership knowing about this for so long they
decide now after mascaro and allen have officially jumped the dogmatic fleet of
republican policy to let their feelings on the matter be made known. hmmmm....
This isn't a he said/ he said. It's more like Walker's word (with no
corroborating evidence or witnesses) versus Ellis, Empey, and at least 4 other
people, including people in Walker's department and in Empey's department at
Zions. They all will share perfectly true and aligned testimony that says what
Ellis's story has been all along, and makes Mark look like the biggest idiot and
liar in the world. If Walker is found 'innocent," then he will be innocent like
OJ Simpson was innocent.On another nore, I saw Curt Bramble riding
around on a Segway in the Freedom Festival parade today, and it was all I could
do to keep from yelling, "you still satisfied with your pick for treasurer???"
The lesson here is that if the RINOS take out a conservative, the conservatives
take out a RINO. Eye for an eye, baby! Poor RINOS don't have many eyes left.
Greg Hughes needs to Go! Greg is a former staffer for the Meanid Enid Greene
campaign. I guess he learned all of his nasty tacktics from her.
What goes around, comes around. At the June Salt Lake County Republican Party
Central Committee meeting Steve Mascaro opposed the re-election of Ozwald
Balfour for the Chair position in Senate District 10. The way I heard it, is
that Balfour decided that he was not seeking re-election but that Chris Butters
asked him to run. Party leaders informed Butters that Balfour had legal baggage
and he should be distanced. However, Senator Butters was too big and powerful to
call and talk with Balfour about what he had heard. Butters brought some other
lady to the meeting and endorsed her even though without Balfours help Butters
would have been forced into a primary election. Balfour said in the meeting that
Butters asked him to run and the Senator just sat there looking dumb and stupid.
Mascaro and other party leaders came out to teach Balfour a lesson. After the
meeting, Mascaro was heard to tell Balfour that the Party could not have him in
leadership because of his legal problems. Talk about the pot calling the kettle
black. No pun intended. Balfour is black and founded the Utah Republican Black
I'm amazed at how everyone assumes Mark Walker is guilty. As far as every
article I've read, it's a "He said; he said" situation. I've yet to see any
substantial proof of wrongdoing.I was a state delegate & I got the
literature on both candidates. Ellis fought dirty from the first flyer. He has
more education & experience than Walker. He should have run most of his
campaign focusing on that rather than slamming Walker.In the country,
aren't you innocent till proven guilty.Oh yeah. That's just rhetoric.
Message to Mark Walker: run for your life. If you think for one minute that
Hughes or Curtis or the rest of your little circle will be supporting you come
Monday, guess again. Their actions and comments today show what little men they
really are. You guys think you have been so clever in your transactions, but
there might be a nice little surprise coming your way in the near future. I
can't wait to see your faces when you guys are on the receiving end of your own
Greg Curtis and Greg Hughes along with Valentine, Bramble, Lockhart, Shurtleff,
Bishop, and Dave Clark have stooped to a new low today...they remind me naughty
school boys who keep making up story after story to hide behind their lies.
Walker was supported by this group so they could futher their own agenda. The
voting public saw them for what they were and sent a stong message June 24..
Come Monday, they will be exposed for what they are. I may not be a member of
the moral majority here in Utah, but in my church, we are often reminded of the
story when Jesus reminds us "he without sin, cast the first stone". The
arrogance of this group of men is disgusting, it makes one wonder how they
became such two faced power hungry humans. November is just around the corner,
our votes will make a difference.
...Curtis did not instigate this. He actually wanted to suppress it, fearing it
would hurt Republicans in November. Mascaro's district is a swing district.
Democrats could win this one.The instigator was not Greg Hughes
either.-- One Who Knows The Facts.
Knowing the track record of this bunch in the Legislature, I believe the intern
before I will believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Mascaro, Curtis
and that circus of clowns.
When Bill Clinton did what he did with an intern, it was just fine with the
Democrats,no problem! It seems if a Republican even does something very, very
mild in comparison,the roof caves in! Gee, I wonder why the double standard?
Quoting Post Above: Allen did the right thing? | 8:00 a.m. July 4, 2008 All she did was defend Mascaro from his perverse actions. That really sounds
like a great women to me. Maybe she should have a little concern for the
victimWhere did you get the idea that she defended "Mascaro from his
perverse actions?" She was called out for calling for an ethics investigation
This has been a nice diversion, but let's not forget that Monday's ethics
hearing, with the testimonies of all those who have been subpenaed, promises to
be possibly the low point in history for the Utah GOP. Will Walker
actually show up and listen as witness after witness uncovers his web of crimes
compounded by lie after lie? Will his arrogance falter, even for a second?
Will he resign in shame before Monday morning, hoping to blunt the impact of the
ethics committee? Will Walker implicate all those who put him in this position
and name names? I remember hearing Greg Hughes on KSL on election
day- did he know then that Walker was guilty as sin? I bet he did. I bet they
all did. So have fun on Monday boys. Your little world will never be the same,
and that makes me so happy. You've worked hard for this, so you get precisely
what you deserve.
The ethics meeting on Monday just got interesting. Before this, everyone knew
that Walker would show up and either resign or say nothing because of the
ongoing criminal investigation. Now the committee can start their investigation
of Mascaro - "hey, we're all here with nothing else to do . . ."Wouldn't it just be awful for Mascaro if the intern was someone else's intern
and that Representative was covering up for Mascaro? How spineless to not
protect your own intern.
Honesty and Ethics. Our platform says that we're for them. You'd have a hard
time knowing that by watching and listening to our Republican elected officials
and party officers, though.
I'm through voting. It only encourages them...
As a life-long Republican it pains me to say that I am just about as
disenchanted as I can be. I wish I could say that our chosen "leaders" were not
corrupted by power and money, but I can't. Why would they back someone like
Walker in the first place, other than his dad is rich? I doubt this will be
printed, but my son went to Hillcrest High School with Mark Walker. He is not
at all surprised by his lack of ethics, because he alleges he had no ethics then
either. It is alleged that Walker fixed a student body election by having the
kids at the end of the row (to whom ballots were passed) look at each ballot and
put those for the opponent in their backpacks instead of submitting them for
counting. You can dress a kid like that up and pass him off to be in charge of
our state's finances, but how do you clean him up? You don't. So... my
questions are, what is in it for the Republican machine to back Walker in the
first place; and what is their motive to play these dirty tricks on Mascaro?
the people who leaked this were clearly the same ones who leaked the bribery
scandal story to the tribune. notice how in both instances the trib got a leak
which then brought a grama request? Its got to be richard ellis behind this
GRAMA requests are a records request for a state government record.Any one can
make a request,not just a reporter. In this case, both newspapers were coached
to file a GRAMA request and were told exactly what to ask for. The Legislature
passed GRAMA and exempted their own records. And usually, personnel records are
exempt. Draw your own conclusion about the motives behind the "leak" to both
papers at the same time to ensure press coverage, the GRAMA requests, and the
readily release of the memo. Maybe this means the legislature is willing to
release any and all records requested under GRAMA.
Not all of the State GOP Senators and Reps were backing Walker. Many wanted
Ellis because of experience.If Curtis leaked this now, about
Mascaro, Curtis should loose in November.The News and the Trib have
totally different stories of what happened. Both say that the intern felt
threatened but didn't want to complain, then or now.She had made at
comment to someone else on the way home and one of the persons in the car took
it further. A meeting was held with the parties, and they agreed that was all
that was needed. There was obviously a difference in perception at the time.If Curtis thinks poorly about Mascaro, perhaps that is good enough for
everyone to vote him back in.
The Republican Party acts the same wherever you are in the State. The majority
thinks they are above the law and do what they want to do. From Salt Lake
County to Garfield County, they all belong to the "good ol' boy" club. It's
hard to believe that they get away from it!!! At least with the Democrats, you
know what you are getting. I'm one republican that will be voting for Democrat
Jim Matheson. The good ol' boys didn't appoint him.
I don't put anything past Curtis, Valentine, Shurtleff, Herbert or Mark Walker.
It's obvious they are mad at Mascaro for not sweeping their dirty actions under
the rug. Sheryl should be glad that they didn't come after her too.
Having been at the Legislature I can bear weitness to the way these scumbags
treat people who dare to cross them. They also know the truth about their
back-room deal passing the bill increasing the State Treasurer's salary in
exchange for Walker's support is going to come out and they and their secret
combination is going to collapse. They are also afraid Mascaro may cross party
lines and tell us what goes on behind closed doors.He has the dirt
on them and they want to prevent him fro doing the moral thing but Mascaro
already knows what they are willing to do to achieve their goals. Just today the
Salt Lake Tribune reported on Buttars comments to City officials about how he
could get away with implying that black babies are dark and ugly things and then
he threatened them. Of course his friend Wendell who was present calls the City
officials liars. Who are we going to believe?
The Republican stronghold in the State Legislature has become a corrupt mockery
of a unit. Let's vote for change in the coming election. Out with the
If you go to the trib article about the ethics cmttee investigation and read
some of the comments from July 1, you will see that some of the commenters
mentioned they knew about the Mascaro harassment. It was also common knowledge
amongst all the interns and most of the legislators. I suspect that the trib
just read their comments and did a quick gramma request to see if it was true.
There is quite a difference between the reporting in the D News and the SL Trib.
Bernick spends a lot of time sharing Mascaro's version of the story. Gehrke
spends a lot of time sharing the intern's version of the story. Hmmm...is this
biased, or did it just happen like that? Any thoughts?
I have had it with Curtis, and Hughes they both believe they are above the law
and the voters,, well everyone, please prove them wrong and vote them out of
office! We need a change in the legislature. enough is enough.
It really doesn't matter what the superior's intent was; just matters that an 18
year old girl felt harassed by the touching. I don't know what is more
moronic: thinking the public would believe that the intern was hitting on
Mascaro or his using that as a justification. Please join Buttars in the
Who tipped the SL Trib off that they should file a GRAMA request? It would be
interesting to read the GRAMA request to see how broad or narrow it was. If it
was broad, a fishing expedition with something along the lines of any
'disciplinary meetings, etc' and Mascaro was the one name to come up.If it was much more narrow, such as a 'legislator' and 'intern' then it get's
fishier. If it includes the word "Mascaro' then this is clearly
retaliation.Getting the GRAMA request itself would answer some
for caring enough to ask the poor dear why she was so upset. Or to try to avert
a potential situation of self harm. Also, please excuse me for not recognizing
that any physical contact between people, regardless of sex or age, is now
considered de facto sexual contact. I was just trying to be a human being
human, showing sympathy, giving counsel and trying to avoid the screams of the
PC crowd to tell her to just buck up and don't bothering me with your problems.
are you kidding? you don't get it...curtis is not only the "playa" but he is
setting the perverse rules of this "game." if there a sexually assault really
occurred then i would completely agree with this coming public. but since this
appears so minor -- and even the girl didn't want to press any charges or go
public -- this just looks petty and vindictive by greg curtis and greg hughes.
You hit the nail on the head, Jay. I'm expecting follow up stories with more
sordid details once everyone finishes their hotdogs and fireworks.
jay bird, you are probably right. Still the DN could have made their own GRAMMA
request and not had to quote the SL trib or unnamed sources.You
Curtis haters are unashamed. You would think he sexually harassed your 18 year
old daughter and not Mascaro. From the articles, all Curtis appears to have
done was write an apology to the girl - 4 months ago. Mascaro is the moron
here; he should have laid low for at least a year (glass house).
Give me a break...Curtis is up to his usual strong-armed tactics again. He's
trying to discredit Mascaro for not playing along with the good ole boys in the
Walker incident by 'leaking' this story 3 months after it supposedly happened
and only days before the ethics panel convenes. It's pathetic that he resorts
to this kind of thinly disguised retribution. I hope that voters do not get
sidetracked with this ridiculous charade. This is not the first time that
Mascaro has been punished by Curtis for not playing along with the leadership.
Hang in there Mascaro! Curtis and his crowd will get theirs in November!
this is an all-time low for greg curtis and his jesters. this is a
horrible leak. first, of all the girl was promised that this would not go
anywhere. it is violations of trust like this that lead to more serious sexual
assualts going unreported. second, there appears to be nothing here
but an attempt by curtis and his hacks to stop one of their critics in the
house. and conveniently the timing of this leak is in place to cover up the
So Mascaro didn't like something the GOP leadership did and he goes through the
proper channels and secures a date for a House Ethics meeting. Curtis doesn't
like something that Mascaro does and instead of going through the proper
channels, he leaks this to the press after promising not to.That's
real mature. Civility in politics is dead in the Utah GOP leadership.
Like you, I was at first very critical of Bernick's reporting on this story. But
after reading The Other Paper, I think I can piece together a likely picture of
what probably happened.Other Paper filed GRAMMA request, got source
documents on intern's complaint, talked to those involved and wrote the
story.DNews was scooped, and had to respond with something,
anything. Bernick had to phone all the usual suspects on his source list. Found
2 who would provide background, but not go on the record.Pushed into
a corner and without the source documents, BBJR took their background and wrote
this piece, using them as unnamed sources.Still not a flattering
situation for the DNews, but not nearly as bad as what I, and other readers
judging by the comments here, thought had happened.My guess, Bernick
felt he had very little choice in doing what he did. I'm assuming he wasn't
happy about the situation either, but did what he thought he had to do for the
team under the unfavorable circumstances.jay bird
I made the same comments critical of Bernick. So uncourageous.
The Retaliator strikes again
This is an outrage. Greg Curtis has gone too far this time. Regardless of
Mascaro's guilt or innocence, the timing of this "revelation" is an obvious and
clumsy act of retribution. Curtis must go. The voters in his district should see
Curtis can't make the Intern come forward nor do I think he "leaked" this to the
press. How can so many lose focus that Mascaro hit on an intern? In another
article he blames her saying she came on to him.... I don't think so. Mascaro
should look under his own hood before going after fellow legislators.
I read this in my DN and came to the website to enjoy laughing at the comments.
Come to find out, I had to read the online Trib article to get the most
important facts (grama request). Why can't the DN report a little better?And that's true about glass houses . . . why would Mascaro file an
ethics complaint against someone else just months after his own ethics
Disappointing morning. Earlier in this thread I tried to post a comment critical
of the DNews and Bernick for relying on unnamed sources for this story.The moderator chose not to post my comment. I certainly didn't curse or make
any outlandish accusations. But i got censored, apparently for
taking Bernick to task over anonymous sources.I pointed out in that
post that not using names of sources when GOP leaders are involved in an
intra-party tiff only fuels those who see a Joe Cannon-GOP-DNews cabal.Much better to name names, as The Other Paper did (except for the intern).Guess I touched a raw nerve.jay bird
I don't know Sheryl Allen, but she'd better keep her eyes open because she's
next. They'll figure out how to destroy her, mark my words.
A classic she said vs. he said. But what we DO know is that: (1) no
substantial investigation occurred in March and no charges were filed against
Mascaro; (2) the victim did not want her allegations to go public; (3) Mascaro
has been called a dissident by House Speaker Curtis; (4) there is no indication
from Mascaro that he asked Curtis to formally apologize on his behalf; (4)
sources inside and outside of the Legislature tipped off both statewide
circulation newspapers and the story was published on the same day; (5) Mascaro
and four others initiated an ethics inquiry involving bribery allegations linked
to GOP candidates and party leaders. It begins Monday; (6) Republican leadership
in Utah has a track record of bullying, intimidation, and bending the rules when
faced with criticism of their performance as our public servants; (7) the story
is a sideshow that blurs the focus of the ethics complaint; and (8) both Mascaro
and the alleged harassment victim are now pawns in a GOP power game.And heres another thing we DO know: Election Day is 200 days away, and Curtis
is up for re-election.
Maybe it is time to just ban party affiliation in this state and make everyone
local run without.
I am no fan of either treacherous Curtis, or RINO Mascaro, but look at all the
other people who knew about this event- right from the night it happened. Then
the intern talked about it with another intern while riding with another
legislator. Now it comes out from (or corraberated by) a GRAMA request.I would be glad to see both Curtis and Mascaro go, but based on their
policy stands and actions in the House, not gossipy innuendo.Getting
hard to be proud to be a Republican any more.
In the Trib article, Mascaro says the intern came on to him. Mascaro is exactly
the kind of guy a college-age woman would pursue. If you've ever seen him before
would know that that he is short, overweight, about 60 y.o. and has a huge
schnoz. I bet he has to fight the women off all of the time.
I'm certainly no defender of Curtis and will be supporting his opponent but...
if you go to the Trib article you will see that this info came to light because
of a GRAMMA request by a Trib reporter. Not GOP leaders (if you can call them
that).Mascaro has some "splanin" to do. In the other article he says
the victim came on to him.....yeah right!
What is the saying about glass houses and throwing stones? Sounds like another
case of the pot calling the kettle black (no offense to Buttars).
So this is jow legislative leadership says Happy 4th of July to Rep Mascaro.
Greg Curtis is a true Patriot, through and through.He'll
get his, just you wait.
This goes to show the extent the right wing of the Utah Reupublican Party is
willing to go. As a life-long Republican, I am disgusted with the behavior of
the leadership, such as Curtis, Bramble, Hughes, Valentine, Shurtleff,
Stephenson, Clark, etc. However, there is hope on the horizon. With
Donnelson,Neunschwander and Walker losing in the primaries, perhaps some
moderate Republicans will get in. I think the moderate Republicans, which
includes Mascaro, along with the moderate Democrats, is the hope of the future,
and the only way to defeat the stranglehold of the corrupt, elitist right wing
Did Curtis really call the two legislators "dissidents"? I think Curtis is
dangerous. To me, "dissident" is a 1950's MacCarthy word. It's a Soviet,
take-them-off-to-Siberia word. It's a word used by a petty man that thinks he
was the right to run the whole show.Curtis has become a joke, except
no one is laughing.When a false sense of party loyalty clouds the
sense of right and wrong, it's time to go.
Whats with West Jordan Buttars now Mascaro?
The arrogance bred by absolute power is horrible, often devastating to those who
run afoul of the power structure. But it also is destructive from the inside
out. The Utah GOP is self destructing beyond the ability of its latest PR
campaign ("I Can") to stop it. November will see one of the most interesting
elections in history.
Utah's single-party system has no checks and balances. The GOP can spend little
and still get their candidates re-elected every time, no matter how poorly they
perform. Curtis and Buttars have become extremely comfortable in their
positions because they truly believe that they cannot be de-throned. Hopefully,
their constituents will do as Chris Cannon's did and throw the bum out.
GossipWhy do they mind the business of others?No business of their
"Smear and fear" is the Republican Party's method of operation.The
Democrats aren't much better.I'll be voting Libertarian, or not
voting at all.
This should read GOP paid political announcement! The Deseret News should never
have accepted the bait from the GOP leaders, especially in light of the comments
from the Intern that didn't want this made public! In the end the media should
force the GOP leadership to figure a way to slander their legislators and just
stay out of it. Especially in this case when the Deseret News doesn't reveal
sources and or name of Intern. What is the point of this attack anyway?
That should scare us all the Curtis listened to Mascaro's confession, told the
girl it would all be confidential, took no disciplinary action, and then leaked
it before this ethics probe. Thanks Bishop Curtis!I
hope you have your criminal defense attorney in place! You're gonna need it!And I love how they quoted Greg Hughes, who shares a brain with Curtis
(or at least half of one). How Kbout quotes from the public who is fed up and
sick of it. As a republican from Utah County, I will be in Curtis's district
campaigning against him this fall. Removing the cancer starts with Curtis.
All she did was defend Mascaro from his perverse actions. That really sounds
like a great women to me. Maybe she should have a little concern for the
I would take Mascaro any day of the week of Mr. Curtis. I'm going to be voting
for Democrats in Utah this year...especially Corroon, and Bennion Spencer for
3rd District Congressman. (wish I could vote for Matheson)I'm done
with the Utah one-party corrupt GOP. From the Ellis-Walker fiasco, the State
GOP having his daughter as a delegate (and being involved in the Ellis-Walker
issue), RSL Stadium, Curtis, Valentine, and the rest of Gilligan's Island GOP
people. All of 'em are lost on a deserted island.
The "intern incident" aside, I'm yet again appalled by Greg Curtis. In fact,
over the past decade I've become pretty disenchanted with most Republicans.
Dishonesty, greed, lies, corruption, poor decision-making -- it's all there.
I'll say, however, that Sheryl Allen, for one, is an exception. She has always
seemed to me to be an honest, straight-shooting, decent person. For Greg Curtis
to call her out for doing the right thing? Well, that's Greg Curtis for
you...Please voters, remove him and his playmates (cough, cough Chris Buttars)
from public life.
A one party system is no good. Power corrupts, absloute power corrupts
absolutly. This is what I see going on with the current politicans that have
been in office to long. eight years is long enough. lets vote out those than
have been in to long, no longer represent the people only themselves and their
I, for one. will not be voting for ANY incumbent in the upcoming election. It
is time to clear out the Curtis/Valentine/Buttars/Stephenson strong-arm mafiosi
from our legislature. Throw ALL incumbents out!
WOW. The Republican party is tanking fast. Good time to flush.
Anyone think of the word "hubris" when looking at the antics of our legislators?
I'm sorry, but all of this "stuff" happening to the good old GOP is just a hoot.
You talk about self-destruction! It needs to come out from beneath the wing of
the Church and re-invent itself.
Funny how the only paper not naming any names of the GOP leaders behind this
leak has an editor who happens to be the former GOP chairman. Something stinks
in Utah and it's the GOP party.
Curtis is really showing his true colors with this one. He waits until now? I
say they need to convene an ethics probe for Curtis. This just really stinks.
People see it for what it is. I'll remember in November.
I have a business in California and just returned from a ten day stay. Politics
in California is also controlled by one party. But it is the Democrats doing the
controlling. Liberal Democrats. The state is in a financial mess and has major
debt that even a Republicrat can't fix. The big bill of the month in California
is a ban on mylar balloons. Gas is $4.85 and Utilities like Water and
Electricity have gone through the roof. They recently voted (referendum) for
spending on obscure mental health and after school arts and crafts. The
spending for these items are now mandated by law and can only be cut by another
vote of the people. So they are now cutting broad educational and mental health
spending while leaving in place large education and mental health expenditures
that benefits a very very small group. In Utah the Republicans have
given us a balanced budget, which is going to come in very handy in this
recession. Gas is $ .80 cheaper. Property taxes are fair and there is less
graffiti and gang violence. Utah also seems to have better spiritual bearings,
which will also come in handy during the recession.
Curtis and his bitter strong arm tactics have got to go. This man's ego will
destroy anyone who doesn't fall in line with him. As a life long Republican I'm
truly disappointed in my party for allowing Curtis to remain in power.
Bad, bad day for the Republican party in Utah. Oh well, they'll all still get
elected next year.
Politics is pretty ugly. I remember a story about LDS President
Kimball giving a ride to a female member of his ward. He had her sit in the back
seat of the car so that if anyone saw it they would not think it
inappropriate.Wise action. Something Rep Mascaro could have done, in
hind sight. In any case, should we be surprised that something like
this is now coming to light. And the fact that Speaker Curtis even mentions that
both Mascaro and Allen are/have been, wooed by the Democrats.This
whole issue is just too bad.
The GOP in Utah & the US is just self destroying right in front of our eyes.
Vote everyone out this November.