Utah Jazz: Sloan long ago moved on from 1998

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  • Nick C
    June 22, 2008 11:45 p.m.

    I can't believe this article had to explain who John and Karl are!

  • Lakers lose again!!!!!
    June 20, 2008 7:39 p.m.

    Lakers and Lakers ditto,

    Seriously, you two need to get out of bed with George W. and get lives. Travel to almost any country in the world. They hate Bush and have a more negative view of the U.S. than during the Clinton era. If the Jazz can learn to win on the road next year, which they could not very well this year, they will be in the 2009 NBA Finals! Assuming they can go 37-4 or better at home again. Mark my words!

  • Re: NBA
    June 19, 2008 7:07 p.m.

    I agree with you totally! Is college basketball officiating any different? Too much of the game at either level is controlled by "judgement" calls and there is no consistency in what is an offensive foul. I guess it all depends on what "is" is.

  • Repeat, repeat, repeat
    June 19, 2008 6:28 p.m.

    Didn't I read these Sloan quotes in a D-News story last week?

  • It Haunts Me
    June 19, 2008 6:08 p.m.

    I try to move on from that horrible game six. I don't worry about the Jordan push because it never should have come to that. The Eisley three ball was a horrible call, and as I recall there was a three from Chicago that was released well after the shot clock that was counted wrongly. There's a six point swing there so it would have negated Jordan's "Heroics." I realize we can't have it back but when I see similar things going on today with officiating it haunts me. The only way you can win legitimately in the NBA is to blow every team out and not even give the Refs/League a chance to interfere. If you give them an inch they'll take it and more. David Stern gives off the appearance of virtue but truth be told he wreaks of corruption and has since he took over. It is no coincidence that since he became commissioner officiating contoversies always seem to arise. I have no confidence in the NBA- it stinks. As they bombard us with "NBA Cares" ads during the season it really tells me they care alright- about making money by giving the big markets the title.

  • Rigged
    June 19, 2008 5:36 p.m.

    That series was rigged. Bavetta was paid by some big time gamblers to make those calls. The other refs probably were paid off as well. The Eisley shot was the most obvious, followed closely by the other two missed calls. Why didn't the other refs say that Eisleys shot went in??? Was nobody watching??? That wasn't even a question.

    Boo David Stern for letting this happen. I loved how he was booed by Boston even after they had just won the championship. The NBA needs to fire all the refs in question and really address this problem to make the fans trust the league again.

    Thanks Tim Daughnahy for being honest.

  • ID Jazz
    June 19, 2008 5:36 p.m.

    NBA is tainted by the refs. How often do you here about the refs and or umps in other leagues talked about for there horrendous calls.(hardly ever) Yet NBA officials are talked about daily for there calls. Its the only league where the stars get the no calls and rookies get every call against them. I honestly would like to see just one game where all calls were justified. Its unbelievable at times to watch some of the calls. Refs making calls from the other side of the floor when there is a ref right there. A call made at one end and then at the other end a similar play happens and a no call.

    We need some consistency from these refs. It should not matter what your name is either. Who doesn't remember "the Jordan Rules". That is a mockery of NBA officiating cause they usually gave Jordan an advantage. We all knew it and so did the players. Not Jordan's fault but Stern's fault. He could have dealt with this a long time ago and shaped these guys up but never has which makes you wonder if he wants the superstars in the finals.

  • Bavetta
    June 19, 2008 4:38 p.m.

    Stupid Dick Bavetta.

  • Dave
    June 19, 2008 4:24 p.m.

    I used to complain about the Jordan push-off and this game has, admittedly, haunted me. However, I have realized in the last while that if it is a call that is so debated, it probably wasn't that bad and I don't think I saw it until the replays. By the way, kudos to Joel for his comments--they were quality! Anyway, most things were questionable, except the Howard Eisley 3-point shot being negated. That was one call I just couldn't understand, but regardless, it was a great game and too bad the Jazz couldn't be ahead by a few more points near the end so it wouldn't be as controversial. Also, Bryon Russell is to be commended for his class act comments about the no-call.

  • Lakers ditto
    June 19, 2008 4:01 p.m.

    down with obama

  • lakers
    June 19, 2008 3:51 p.m.

    It should not matter what time of the game it is, who the player is, what the score is, or anything else. A foul is a foul. People make mistakes but come on, the jazz were robbed because they didn't have the nba marketing machine (MJ at that time) on there team. Now that he is gone they need the lakers to play the celtics to keep the new marketing machine going. its a crock!!! Jordan is not as good as his stats and records show.

    Malone is a deadbeat dad.
    Jordan is a deadbeat dad, husband and a gambler.
    Stockton was a classy player and family man.
    Kobe is a deadbeat husband/ thug

    NBA is a deadbeat organization and people should boycott it.

    Obama is a deadbeat all around and there is no way his socialist-heavy government waste is going to help this country at all.


  • Idaho Jazz
    June 19, 2008 2:35 p.m.

    Stockton was not a dirty player he set screens legally within the frame work of the rules and the offense.

  • magnus
    June 19, 2008 2:34 p.m.

    @ John

    have you ever actually played basketball?

    @ everybody else

    I don't think any ref in the NBA then or now is going to call a push-off foul on Jordan at the end of that game, even halfway through the first quarter that is a no-call 95% of the time. That was poor defence by Russel, I don't care what he tells himself or the media, he didn't even get a hand up on that shot.

    Fact: NBA Referees have intentionally changed the outcome of games. That is indesputable, one of them was caught in the act and admitted doing it.

    However, that does not mean all NBA games are fixed, in fact I would say that most of them aren't.

    The thing I find most interesting is that there has been rumors floating around, ever since I can remember and long before Donaghy, about the NBA encouraging officials to call important swing games involving big market teams (like game 3 when they are down 0-2, or game 6 down 2-3) , in favor of said big market teams. The more I watch the NBA the more I think there is some merit to those rumors.

  • NBA is a Joke!!
    June 19, 2008 2:26 p.m.

    Yes, people the NBA is Fixed operation. We have a former official saying he fixed games he worked so he and other gamblers could benefit financially. He has also claimed other officials are involved along with the NBA office!! What else do you need? Remember, alot of officials were involved in cashing in Airlines tickets for money a few years back. In other words, these officials know whats going on. Its not a one man operation. I quess alot of people will just bury their head in the sand and refuse to believe it and the NBA will feed us with all kinds of propaganda saying it isn't true. It has become wrestling in shorts for big money. I left the NBA as a fan after that 98 series with the bulls because I knew something wasn't right with the officiating. As it turns out, I may be right that bavetta had a hand in the outcome. I havent attended a game since and I will not in the future. Good luck NBA, I'll stick with the NFL.

  • sloan hater
    June 19, 2008 2:23 p.m.

    Jerry please do us all a favor and retire after another
    early exit in the playoffs. I am so grateful you have
    been our coach during all of these early exits, but
    the time has come, please some younger coach who
    can relate to the players of todays game take over and also a coach who will defend the 3 point shot.
    Please Larry recover quickly and find us a new mentor.

  • SDrabid jazzfan
    June 19, 2008 2:16 p.m.

    Political extrapolation? If you're afraid of a socialist transfer of power you're likely a irrational fascist bastard republican. The present fascist Bush regime has blatantly looted America for it's own personal agenda. Reality is, your grand childrens' children will still be shouldering the debt of this global mis-appropriation. Perhaps socialist control cannot possibly remedy the situation in the next 4 - 8 years however, it's imperative to stop the hemoraging of US dollars directed solely at the gain of an elite few. The world is a crooked unsavory place beyond my comprehension. Not surprisingly the NBA is not immune. Prevailing practice mostly lacks integrity. EVERYWHERE! Who's looking at you when you stare at a mirror?

  • Back in my day...
    June 19, 2008 1:52 p.m.

    John, maybe you'd like to bring back the peach baskets and underhand foul shots.

  • AzJazzFan
    June 19, 2008 1:28 p.m.

    Calls can go either way, we tend to ignore the ones that go for us. A championship team needs to be good enough to not let the outcome rest with the refs. Boston is a good example. They won by 39 points and there is no debate who is the better team. The Bulls won the two titles because they hit the bigger shots. Losing to the greatest player in the history of the NBA is not a bad consolation prize.

  • John
    June 19, 2008 1:21 p.m.

    NBA = WWE

    I defy anyone to show us the NBA rule book, and then hold it up to any game played and you will see that there are no rules. Three steps after picking up the dribble? What's with the 'bunny hop' where you take two steps, jump up, come down on both feet, and then jump up to the basket?

    Where is the rule that says you can only push the basketball down when you dribble, you can't push it from the side, and you can't palm it and curl you hand over it as you move down the court.

    What's with the pansy half circle under the basket where the offensive player cannot be stopped?
    How can a game like the NBA be refereed by only three old guys, watching ten players abuse each other, and calling a foul sometimes, but never at the end of the game "that is the time when the are gonna let them play" Horse pucky! The rules change as the game clock starts to run down????

    Besides, calling a foul when the shot is good, is ridiculous. If he was fouled, how did he get the shot to go in?

  • Beer Drinking Bud
    June 19, 2008 12:57 p.m.

    The question I have is would there have been a foul called on Russell if Jordan had missed the shot? None of the players wants to find out there efforts were in vain. It takes all of the sense of accomplishment and pride away from the game if the refs have been slanting the games. But, it's hard to ignore the blatant missed calls and questionable calls that seem to control the flow of the game so often. I laugh when they are asked, "Coach, What do you need to do to win the game?" The bottom line is put the ball thru the hoop more often than your opponents. Score enough points by a big enough margin and the bad calls don't hurt so much. If the starters are on the bench in foul trouble, then the bench has to pick up the slack. Use their talent and hustle!!!

  • Bill
    June 19, 2008 12:49 p.m.

    No bias here Tuffy, I have nothing against dirty players. It takes all kinds to make the NBA and world go around. My point is let's be honest. Stockton got away with as many non-calls as anyone. Things have a way of evening themselves out. Kind of like this thread. When I first read it, all I saw was the Jazz got robbed and every call went against them. Now I look back and the last few posters have offered a less one-sided opinion. Not wrong or right, just different.

  • Just what i think
    June 19, 2008 12:44 p.m.

    To: Jerry, Jerry, Jerry

    Whistle blowers always lose. Do you know what would happen to Jerry Sloan if he publicly complained about calls and questioned the integrity of the NBA officials? Jeff Van Gundy did it and look what happened to him! We would get even less calls and even more unfair officiating the next time around. Thats why you can't dwell on it!

    To: Give it up

    When people say the NBA is fixed they are not claiming that the best team never wins. Its just that in close games in crucial juntures the calls always seem to go the the team with the biggest star and market. If the game isn't close it can't happen. So between two pretty evenly matched teams the officials can make a huge difference. You can try as hard as you want to convince me the Lakers are better than the Jazz this year and you will never do it. Its just that the Jazz and Lakers are pretty evenly matched and so his royal highness Kobe and the Lakers got the calls and the series!

    Lot of good it did them cause they ran into Boston who actually plays defense!

  • Tuffy Parker
    June 19, 2008 12:39 p.m.

    The truth of the matter is that NBA officiating is inconsistent at best, biased at worst. The NBA is a business with a focus on making as much money as possible. Stars and large markets drive more revenue. Anyone who claims that these factors don't have some influence on officiating is wearing some serious blinders.

    While some big Orwellian type control or conspiracy is highly unlikely, I beg someone to definitively show that there are not multiple standards applied to overall NBA officiating.

    In regard to GIVE IT UP's post about San Antonio - they are/were loaded with stars with appeal outside their home market.

    Also keep in mind that there are some teams that have enough talent and focus that the quality of officiating has little bearing on the outcome of games. The true championship caliber teams are the ones that can transcend the external factors and win regardless.

    Unfortunately, the Jazz have never been at that level. Love or hate MJ, his competitive fire could always elevate him to a higher level in tight situations. Stock had some of that too but didn't have the same athletic ability. Malone couldn't elevate his game leaving us 0-for-2.

  • Obama and Jazz fan in Cache
    June 19, 2008 12:23 p.m.

    "readers" not reading

  • Obama and Jazz fan in Cache
    June 19, 2008 12:22 p.m.

    No2nd Osama,

    From a "vicious Mormon Jazz fan" I tell you to shut up with your Obama bashing. Obama will be a much better president than George W. Bush. And contrary to what many Deseret News reading think, you can be a "card holding" Mormon Democrat! I do not have a major problem with Jordan's steal of Malone, even though he did hit Malone's hand, or Jordan's pushoff on Bryon Russell. Referees almost always swallow their whistles in those situations at the end of games, especially in the playoffs, even more so in the Finals. Michael Jordan was never going to be called for a foul in those situations. The referees generally give the benefit of the doubt to the road team, because they are playing so well in a hostile environment, if they are still in the game like the Bulls were, only down one point. My problem is that Bavetta and company waved off Eisley's three and tacked on Harper's late 2-pointer. The Bulls would have been down by six when Jordan stole the ball from Malone and there would have been a game 7. Although no ones knows who would have won game 7 in SLC.

  • Bomar
    June 19, 2008 12:09 p.m.

    NBA officiating has played a big part in who wins important games, yes there are series that the officiating can't control i.e. the sweep of the Lakers prior to the finals. On the other hand the officials have determined who won. The NBAs mouthpieces continually talked up the desired finals teams which they got and see who is officiating these important games. Stern does not have to make calls or talk to anyone, they just assign those company officials to the games. Trust me Donaghy is not the only one who is dirty. What about those that were convicted of tax evasion for selling their 1st class plane tickets and buying coach tickets and pocketing the difference and some of those were never fired and then there is Joey Crawford. What is he doing blowing the whistle again especially games involving the Spurs. For these reasons and many more I don't think we can take the NBA any more seriously than the WWE.

  • Tuffy Parker
    June 19, 2008 12:08 p.m.

    So Bill... If I understand your point, you're saying that because John Stockton was a "dirty" player and somehow received preferential treatment, that now justifies all bad calls/no-calls. Is that right?

    I may be confused but it sounds to me like your post might be "biased" toward bashing John Stockton rather than about the quality of NBA officiating.

  • Yes the NBA is Fixed
    June 19, 2008 12:03 p.m.

    As I recall there is a NBA ref that is admitting to fixing games for all the gambling refs and also because the NBA told him to fix games.

  • Jazz fault
    June 19, 2008 11:54 a.m.

    The Jazz had their chances. If Karl Malones has any clue that Jordan stopped following Hornacek through the key and came back, Malone hits Horney for an easy lay up and the Bulls would have to hit a 3 just to send it to overtime.

    Don't forget that AFTER Jordans game winning shot, Stockton had a WIDE OPEN THREE AND HE MISSED when the ball hit the back of the rim and bounced out. There were calls the Jazz got hosed on, but they still could have won that game, if they would have just executed one more time.

  • Big Time Jazz Fan
    June 19, 2008 11:50 a.m.

    Yeah, Russell got pushed a bit to create space, Howard Eisley got robbed, and Ron Harper got away with one. That's not evidence of a conspiracy though. Consider this... 1997, Western Conference Finals Game 6... John Stockton's miracle shot (anyone remember how great that was?? I was watching while working for a caterer, and I burst out of the kitchen and started hugging random guests at the wedding!). Great moment in Jazz lore, but go watch the replay on Youtube sometime. Karl Malone literally bear-hugged Clyde Drexler to keep him from contesting Stockton's shot. It was up to Barkley to rumble out and try to challenge it, but he had no chance.

    The bottom line is this: calls go both ways. We got bailed out with a no-call in that game, we lost after a (few) tough no calls in the Finals the next year. Not a conspiracy, just life.

  • Team Player
    June 19, 2008 11:37 a.m.

    I agree with 400ex, lets just move on... the '98 finals is an ancient and exhausted debate. I think the Jazz have had few workouts because they have a very well stocked roster already. I'm guessing their going to trade away some or all of their 3 picks. If they keep one, I'm hoping they do get Roy Hibbert, but its starting to look like they may need to trade up a little to get him.

  • No debate. Bavetta Admits Errors
    June 19, 2008 11:17 a.m.

    Dick Bevetta came out in the last couple of years and admitted they missed both 24-second calls 'debated' here and elsewhere.

    The debate is moot. We have the video evidence and Bavetta admitted it - belatedly.

    June 19, 2008 11:01 a.m.

    The NBA is fixed??? Really.... well it I guess it really benefited the league when San Antonio, the 38th largest media market, won the championship three times. They probably loved setting up that boring, barely-watched Detroit/Spurs series. Everyone is the recipient of bad calls, everyone feels liked they're picked on, every team that loses in the playoffs feels like 'The Man' is keeping them down.

    Let's remember, the Jazz had the ball with under a minute to go and a one-point lead. Karl got stripped and we didn't even get a shot off. Then, after Jordan's eventual game-winner, we still had plenty of time to come up with one of our own, but we didn't even get a shot off. Whose fault is that? Some of the calls were bad, but when you have multiple chances to win, whose fault is it really?

  • Mike W
    June 19, 2008 10:50 a.m.

    no2ndOsama, have you forgotten it was George Bush Sr.'s families that had such close ties with the Bin Laden family? Have you forgotten George W. Bush has failed 7 years later to capture the man responsible for the attack that has killed 3000 Americans on American soil? And you're worried about Obama?

    I agree the Jazz got hosed in the Eisley call and the Harper call, those are both reviewable and should've been fixed... I've always thought the push off on Russell was ok, no way any ref makes that call in the closing seconds. People need to remember that the Jazz and Karl Malone benefitted from the refs for many years. Malone led the league in FT attempts something like 7 or 8 times, while Jordan led once, and Kobe led once... we've gotten our share of calls too...

  • Chad
    June 19, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    I seem to also recall another controversial call (or non-call) involving a Jeff Horny 3-pointer in that game, sometime either late 3rd or early 4th. I can't recall the exact situation, if it was another shot clock violation called that should not have been, if they said he toe was on the line for a 3 when it wasn't...something along those lines. Anyone recall? In any case, I believe this was another horrible call and the kind that shouldn't be missed - a non-judgement call. Fouls like the MJ one on B-Russ are calls that I can swallow easier, though it did seem like a push.

  • 400ex
    June 19, 2008 10:17 a.m.

    I'm moving on. Does it seem to anyone else that with a week before the nba draft the Jazz have had very few work outs with draft prospects? Is there a trade set up, do they already have it worked out to get what they want?

  • no2ndOsama
    June 19, 2008 10:03 a.m.

    Let's all take the same degree of emotion and put it into somthing we have control over: Stopping the Osama-Obama/Socialist express!

  • travis
    June 19, 2008 9:53 a.m.

    The NBA game will change when/if the fans demand it by not watching or attending games. Tell the commish why you are not watching and follow through. The problem is that it would hurt the local team, and if it isn't done league wide nothing will happen.

  • Alex
    June 19, 2008 9:42 a.m.

    Cmon guys, I'm a diehard Jazz fan and we can debate the 98 finals or the refs or the pushoff or whatever. But it is pretty common knowledge that Stockton was one of the dirtiest players of all time. Let's get down from the soapbox.

  • Bill
    June 19, 2008 9:39 a.m.

    Chuck, thanks for the post, I was waiting patiently for an "un-biased" Jazz fan to debate my point. The NBA is fixed, the Bulls didn't deserve to be champs, Jordan wasn't good he had the refs in his back pocket and Stockton wasn't dirty, he was "tough". I remember an SI or ESPN article from the 90s that asked current players who they thought were the dirtiest. Malone, Laimbeer and Stockton were the top three. Thanks again Chuck, you made my day.

    Oh and to "re Bill", isn't Jordan retired too?

  • The worst call was NO FOUL
    June 19, 2008 9:30 a.m.

    Watch the replay again. On the steal, Jordan slapped the ball and Malone's hand which is part of the ball. He did not hack his arm. Now you're just grasping at straws. If we are going to mention every little thing here, how about Jordan's layup that brought the Bulls to within 1. He was surrounded by three Jazz as he went up for the shot, bumped numerous times along the way. No foul. Must be a conspiracy.

  • re Bill
    June 19, 2008 9:14 a.m.

    Get a life Bill. They only thing ANYBODY has on Stockton is he was always able to get position on the opponent to make them commit an offensive foul. He didn't foul and get away with it.

    Real mature picking somebody that is retired.

  • Cal
    June 19, 2008 9:13 a.m.

    Josh is right. You can't leave it in the refs hands. Jordan's shove was questionable at best even with the replays, it was ticky-tack. Stockton and Malone used to do the same thing. Basketball is best when there is some contact. This isn't golf. But there was nothing questionable about Malone getting stripped. Why is nobody blaming him? The two shot-clock violations that went against us hurt but you can't just say "there is a five point swing, hence we would have won by four." You just can't say that. Were there any questionable calls that went against the Bulls? Probably. Maybe I'm just getting old but it seems to me like the refs are worse in today's game than 10 years ago. I think they are all corrupt today but I just don't have that view for years past, and that includes the 1998 finals.

  • Chuck
    June 19, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    I can't believe the words that were typed by Bill. John was not a dirty player, he was a tough player. One who set picks, took charges, etc. Give me a break Bill.. Go back and watch the games again.. Sounds to me like a little jealousy!!!!

  • The worst call was forgotten.
    June 19, 2008 9:06 a.m.

    The worst call was not mentioned. The series before the famous Jordan push off, MJ stole the ball from Karl Malone by slapping down on Malone's forearm. In the replay, Bavetta was standing right beside the players, looking right at the play. He saw that foul and never blew the whistle. Then Jordan went down to the other end of the court, shoved Bryon Russell, and won a title.

  • Dave
    June 19, 2008 9:01 a.m.

    The NBA is fixed! I love the Jazz and I have followed them religiously since 1979 when they moved to Utah. The sad thing is I will most likely give up on watching the Jazz also as the NBA moves closer and closer to Pro-Wrestling.

  • Bill
    June 19, 2008 8:15 a.m.

    How come nobody is mentioning how dirty a player John Stockton was and that he got away with more uncalled fouls than anyone during his career? I bet you weren't thinking about that for the last 10 years.

  • Joel
    June 19, 2008 8:11 a.m.

    The Jordan "push-off" has been overblown so much with time. It has gotten worse as the years have gone on. He didn't push Russell to the ground, no way. Did he use his hand to get some separation? Totally, but he didn't shove Russell to the ground. I remember watching it live and never saw Jordan touch him. It took the third replay at a different angle to see that Jordan put his hand on Russell. Plus at that stage of the game, the refs let them play. That's the way basketball is. A no-call was the right decision. Harper's shot probably shouldn't have counted but you have to look at the replay frame by frame to see that it came just a fraction after the shot-clock expired. That's a tough call full speed. Hard to blame the refs for that. However the Eisley shot is inexcusable. We were ripped off on that for sure. Does it make a difference by the time the final buzzer sounds? Possibly but there was so much basketball left after that shot. It was ten years ago, we all need to let it go (me included).

  • WHY?!?
    June 19, 2008 7:57 a.m.

    Do they have to bring up those painful memories from that game? I had almost forgotten about it, when they have to bring it up yet again. First, I think Dick Bavetta should hang it up. Whether he was involved in fixing any games or not is another story, but that dude is so old how can anyone expect him to be a top notch ref? He was old in 98 and he's still in the league. I don't get it. Anyway, as far as game 6 in the 98 finals, it definitely is a tough game to think about when replay shows two bad calls involving shots, went against Utah. The Michael Jordan "pushoff" wouldn't have mattered had those other 2 calls been correct. Who knows what would have happened in game 7 if Utah had won, but unfortunately, we'll never know.

  • Fix it....
    June 19, 2008 7:52 a.m.

    Fix the problem. It DOES matter, even 10 years later because it did not get fixed. Period.

  • Move on already!
    June 19, 2008 7:26 a.m.

    I agree. Let's just accept the fact that the NBA (National Basketball Entertainment) is good, clean sports entertainment fun for the whole family (Gambino, or otherwise) and move on, for crying out loud!

  • RE: AZJazzFan
    June 19, 2008 6:25 a.m.

    For people who watched Game 6, Jordan's legacy is already tainted. It's not his fault, so I feel sorry for him in a way.

    Coach Sloan sets a good example for the rest of us. Sure he came within a few blown calls of a championship, but that was years and years ago, and he moved on right away. How nice if we could all leave the past in the past, in sports and otherwise.

  • The push-off
    June 19, 2008 5:58 a.m.

    wasn't that bad. Russell was already on the ground at that point. What gets me is when they called Russell for the ghost-carry earlier in the game. I remember it was a tense play with momentum starting to swing the Jazz's way, and they call a carry on Russell. It's another example of how letting things slip over the years has given the refs power to call or not call whatever they want whenever they feel like they need to swing the momentum.

  • lamonte
    June 19, 2008 5:57 a.m.

    I love this article. And anyone who doesn't think referees don't have a say in the outcome of close games is fooling themselves. But like Sloan says, "What are going to do?" Dwelling on what might have been is just a waste of time. It's just a game. Everybody is still getting rich off the game and us common folks still pay to watch it. So what ARE you going to do?

    Can I just add one more comment? Delaney makes me sick the way he says "this is not the first time a known convicted criminal has lied about me before the judicial system" wanting to remind us all of his "heroic" days as an undercover cop. He has proven on the basketball court that he is not a hero, he is a coward who can't even stand-up to some hostile basketball fans. He's a disgrace to all the good cops who put their lives on the line every day.

  • Jerry, Jerry, Jerry
    June 19, 2008 4:55 a.m.

    It's fine to let it go and not dwell on it...after the situation has been rectified so that same referee can't do the same thing to other teams in the future. By not protesting with the league, by not making an issue out of it, by not drawing public and media attention to the obvious blown calls, how do you expect NBA refs to improve their game or stop cheating because they think no one will challenge them on it? If you roll over and let them walk over you, they will keep right on walking, which they have, evidenced by Kobe's 19 FT attempts per game average in this year's Jazz-Lakers series. The league has mechanisms in place to for teams to protest referee behavior and the league has methods for disciplining referees. There is no shame in using these when the same referee makes so many "errors" in critical playoff games. Why do you accept his late apology? Isn't part of being sorry not continuing to make the same types of "mistakes"? You formally protest to the league-through the media-and THEN you let it go so it doesn't eat you up inside.

  • jeremy
    June 19, 2008 2:20 a.m.

    I love it. Sloan says "you could drive yourself crazy" by over analyzing a game that happened 10 years ago, a game whose outcome can't be changed. And then the rest of the article does exactly that.

  • CA voter
    June 19, 2008 1:56 a.m.

    Sloan has the right attitude!

  • AZJazzFan
    June 19, 2008 1:01 a.m.

    Great article. Whether Jerry will admit it or not, I will...those horrible calls have haunted me for years. And I hadn't remembered that Bavetta was the one reffing that game...in light of Donaghy's allegations, it's all starting to add up now. The Bulls certainly didn't want a Game 7 of that series when it would have been played in SLC and Jazz had home court advantage. It's likely the Jazz could have pulled that off, and without Bavetta there to nudge it Chicago's way, MJ's legacy could have been tainted with a Finals loss...can't have that. In a game decided by 1 point, those 5 points loom large. Who says a ref making 1 or 2 bad calls a game can't influence the outcome?

  • Josh
    June 19, 2008 12:26 a.m.

    Any athlete would tell you if you've left the outcome of the game in the hands of the officials, you haven't done your job. Sure Jordan pushed off, but that was after stripping the ball off Malone at the other end.

    The Jazz need to win a championship in the next few years(preferably while Sloan is still here) so we can stop dwelling on this. Some very painful memories, these.