Law enforcement summit discusses FLDS

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  • To unreasonable search...
    June 12, 2008 6:08 p.m.

    Agreed. It was the judge's responsibility to tell investigators to find some evidence before authorizing the massive raid. Impeach Judge Walther.

  • gal50 7& realitycheck
    June 12, 2008 6:03 p.m.

    Gal50 - That's what Tom Green did. They put him in jail anyway. If you do it in the name of religion you can't win. If you do it out of lust, government says more power to you.

    Realitycheck - prove it.

  • UnreasonableSearch&Seizure
    June 12, 2008 1:36 a.m.

    Judge Barbara Walther was probably reacting to what was presented as credible evidence, but the CPS & Texas went way too far without clear, credible, or corroborated evidence & now they're just doing a typical CYA saying they need to monitor these families for the next 2 yrs to see if abuse occurs. They didn't have proof of criminal behavior before they took the kids & they still don't.
    Someone should inform this bunch that in Texas the legal age for marriage is 15 with parental consent [If you don't like it change the law!] & the underage pregnancy rate is around 4%, so they can't find one pregnant girl & round up an entire neighborhood. On the surface it seems there's something going on with FLDS et al, but they wasted a whole bunch of $$$ just to prove there were NO crimes committed...

  • Witch Hunt
    June 12, 2008 12:10 a.m.

    Here we go these people do not know when to quit they are content on wasting millions to go after people whose only crime is polygamy its just a matter of time that our society will have to let these people be and along as there is no foul there should be no crime.
    It is amazing how forgiving these people of the FLDS were after we took their children now we have a meeting of law enforcement to see how we can continue to take away these people civil rights.

  • Fear this....
    June 11, 2008 11:49 p.m.

    All I can say, is that if the FLDS had of followed the true LDS prophet Wilford Woodruff, and had listened to him and stopped the practice of polygamy, none of this stuff today would be happening to them. Instead, the FLDS went off and started their own church and the greedy, self indulging, FLDS men, kept the practice of many wives. So now they are all paying the price for not obeying Gods command and revelation to Wilford Woodruff, and not stopping the practice of polygamy.
    FLDS have only themselves to blame for their indulging behavior.

  • Pappy
    June 11, 2008 11:42 p.m.

    Now, if our Utah law enforcement officials would expend the same amount of energy in getting 287g training for our officers to enforce illegal alien issues. They (St. George P.D. and W.C.S.O.) complain "lack of funds" to train these officers.

  • Janet
    June 11, 2008 11:30 p.m.

    "...have no fear."

    I have no fear except to offend God. One man with the Spirit of God is the majority. When God is my protector and my strength why should I fear if the world hates me? It is when I am rejected of God and hated of the world that I have need to fear. I fear no man and leave judgement to God. You are trying to destroy the work of God, you think you are trying to destroy the FLDS but you are dealing with Jehovah, the great I AM. Your controversy is with God, good luck.

  • I think you've got it, Gal50!
    June 11, 2008 11:02 p.m.

    I think you've got the answer, Gal50! Makes as much sense as doing it the other way.

  • Re: Anonymous 10:32
    June 11, 2008 11:03 p.m.

    If you don't break the laws or practice polygamy have no fear.

  • Anonymous
    June 11, 2008 10:32 p.m.

    "...mapping out a cooperative plan to go after crimes within polygamous sects."

    Are they "mapping out a cooperative plan" to go after crimes within monogamous sects too?

    This unhealthy obsession with Polygamy by the authorities is getting scary.

  • realitycheck
    June 11, 2008 10:14 p.m.

    if you peopel think 4 states and other agencies are "picking" on the FLDS because of polygamy, you are seriously in denial. The FLDS is a fanatical religious cult that will stop at nothing to further it's goals. They have already killed in the name of their religion, when Jeffs to Willie the enforcer to kill all the dogs in Colorado City. They did it without a second thought.

    These are dangerous people. Stop looking at the zombie women and brainwashed children and take a good hard look at the leaders.

    They violate the rights of their "followers" on a daily basis, with mind control and intimidation. How you people can possibly say to leave them alone is beyond me. Ignore the civil rights violations perpetrated by the leaders every day? Ignore the murder of innocent animals?

    I don't think so. You can ignore it, or complain that they are being persecuted, but fact is these are really bad people and something needs to be done to free those poor children stuck in the vicious cycle of abuse.

  • Gal50
    June 11, 2008 10:13 p.m.

    The message from this meeting is that the polygamists should be scared. But the big question, is whether law enforcement is going to do something about polygamy or whether it is just going to hold meetings because that is the only thing it can do to scare the polygamists and appease the public.

    I don't like seeing polygamist children suffering as much as they are. It may be in the children's best interest to be very clear as to how law enforcement is going to prosecute polygamy rather than be secretive about possibly taking the fight in a new direction. There must be some position that we can all agree upon.

    In today's society, men get married and divorced and have consecutive families rather than polygamous concurrent families. Perhaps the polygamists could put their wives in triplex units. They could legally marry and divorce the first wife, while still being "spiritually" married to her because they were not "spiritually" divorced. They could then legally marry a second wife and start a new family and then legally divorce the second wife and then start a third family.

  • 1,000 boxes
    June 11, 2008 9:34 p.m.

    1,000 boxes of "evidence" for "alleged" crimes, but still no hard evidence or witnesses. HMMM!! Come on guys, this story is getting old. Go after some real crimes in your own back yards. Leave these people alone. Your speaking out in favor of Texas and CPS adds you to the list of conspirators against the Constitution, which you have promised to uphold. That amounts to TREASON, punishable by capital punishment! It's time for impeachment of law officials who will not perform their duties, but insist on picking on the minority for political gain and sensationalism.

  • Saundra
    June 11, 2008 9:28 p.m.

    Get over it. Texas authorities blew it. There is no way they can undo the damage of trampling on the Constitution. Leave the pathetic FLDS alone, especially the children.

  • Anonymous
    June 11, 2008 9:22 p.m.

    Why are these law enforcement people obsessing over polygamy and a small religious sect? Polygamy is rampant all over the world and yet law enforcement feel the need to go after these pathetic FLDS folks - harassed, humiliated, stalked, denied their Constitutional rights, have their babies ripped right out of their arms, and on and on and on. I guess since they discovered they can't use the innocent children to punish the FLDS adults, they are now going back to the polygamy issue. It's like they are obsessed!! For God's sake, leave the FLDS people alone. In this country, we have freedom of association, freedom of religion, and freedom of THOUGHT. All these law enforcement types getting together to conspire against one small group of religious nuts. They met to discuss ways of depriving American citizens of their Constitutional rights. Is this my America?

  • Evidence????
    June 11, 2008 9:20 p.m.

    Here we go again. "Concerns" about abuse, but still no evidence, only allegations. When are these guys going to get the picture? It is illegal to pass laws against religion. By attacking FLDS and what they call "crimes in polygamy" they are destroying their own freedoms. In America we have religious freedom, right? These Constitution haters need to be impeached, and tried for TREASON.

  • Thomas
    June 11, 2008 9:10 p.m.

    Violating the civil rights of members of the Flds is a crime. Law Enforcement has better although less sensational things to do than harrassing polygamists.