Texas governor defends state action against FLDS

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  • Earl
    June 6, 2008 9:34 p.m.

    Just watched a story on the tube about the Waco raid. It's 14 years since it happened and there were interviews with the surviving children.
    That raid and this Eldorado raid are so similar it's scary.
    In both situations fake calls resulted in the search warrant. In the Waco case,false charges of weapons stockpiles with machineguns and explosives were used as a cause. That quickly changed to massive child abuse charges filed by the FBI and a quick snow job on the press and Janet Reno. Both cases had "inside informants" that were never seen again.
    In truth at Waco there were no guns and abuse was never proven cause most of the kids were dead. The ultimate abuse. Those that survived were harassed by CPS for years trying to get "evidence of crimes"
    It's much like the Philadelphia MOVE case where the cops bombed the neighborhood, killed lots of people that were just doing no wrong.
    Somewhere we as a country have lost our moral compass and are quickly becoming the people our parents warned us about.

  • I agree, Rashad!
    June 6, 2008 7:11 p.m.

    Wonderful comment!
    Just spoke with my son in Texas and he tells me that many, many people were highly upset with the actions of Texas CPS in this case. Obviously, from an earlier story in the Dallas Morning News, this raid was planned well in advance--which means CPS intended to take all the children and mothers before they ever got into the ranch. Thank God, and the sense of the FLDS, Texas authorities didn't get a Branch Davidians this time. That was brought on, if you remember, by unsubstantiated accusations of sexual abuse and information from former members.
    My son also tells me that the Texas Bar Association was upset enough with the illegality of CPS actions that they sent out a call for lawyers willing to work pro bono (for free) to represent the FLDS people.
    According to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, it is illegal to punish a person for a crime for which he has not been convicted (even if the court KNOWS he committed it.) In this case, many, many citizens were punished for crimes they had not been charged with, let alone been convicted of.
    Gov. Perry should resign, as well as the judge.

  • Rashad Adil
    June 6, 2008 6:06 p.m.

    A grave injustice in this day and age to haul away all children of a community instead of prosecuting the suspected adults just beacuse of their religious beleifs. What happened to all the rights that we are preaching to other nations ?
    It is this type of righteous conduct that Ghandi refreered to when he said, " I like your Christ but not the christians who are so unlike your Christ".
    Now that to sets of Courts have decalred that this was an unwarranted and grave injustice, that caused so much pain to not only mothers, fathers and children invloved but great emotional stress to humanity who felt for them; the Governor, Rick Perry, Director of CPS, Judge Barbara Walther, should take responsibility seriously and resign instead of just lip service of feeling good that they are responsible.

  • gal50
    June 6, 2008 5:48 p.m.

    Apparently he said more than this. He also said something to the effect that if the FLDS is not interested in obeying the law, then maybe it would be a good idea to leave the state.

    As people have pointed out, the FLDS members are court ordered not to leave the state until the investigation is completed.

    If the FLDS only wanted to be different like the PA Dutch for example, I think they would be welcome. But, the inability to be self-sufficient, honest, fair-minded, and law-abiding is what has citizens upset. If there are twenty (5 girls, 15 women who were girls at the time of the act) possible victims of statutory rape out of 700 FLDS in Texas, then there may be 300 in a population of 10,000. If so, this is a significant amount of crime.

    The idea of forced marriage isn't very well received either because it is a tactic used to pair young girls with old men.

  • What does that even mean
    June 6, 2008 5:20 p.m.

    What does that mean, "take personal responsibility"? He will quit? He will sit in jail? He will give up his kids? He will write himself a traffic ticket? He will sit in time-out for 15 minutes? He will apologize? What does that mean, "take personal responsibility"? Seems like an offering of feel good to me instead of, personal responsibility.

  • Responsibility
    June 6, 2008 5:16 p.m.

    Well Governor, get ready to take personal responsibility.