This is a lady who is honored and respected in her office of a mother. She has
never been raped and is happy, or was, before Texas decided to "help" her. If
Texas would give her the freedom od choice, she would go right back into the
arms of her loving family. There are no underpriveleged among us as some
of you would have the public belleive. Warren Jeffs has the right to rule, he is
a Prophet of God. You will never destroy my faith. God bless His Prophet! There is not an FLDS home that I know about that doesn't have a
ccomputer, (we have four in our home)don't believe all the smut you hear.Brigham Young said, "Let us alone and we will accomplish the work of God
at our liesure, persecute us and we will stay up nights to preach the gospel".
Thank you all who have helped in the Texas raid, you have succeeded
in strengthening my faith in God and His Prophet. Heaven bless you!
The answer to your question: FREEDOM IS NOT ALWAYS FREE. The
pictures and stories that I have heard of the kids returning home doesn't look
like any of them were traumatized. 13 year old girls being forced
to have sex - which has never been explained to them - is torture.Nobody was beheaded, the kids were returned, we are all fee to express our
opinion. In other countries that are not free, this does not happen.The system is not perfect, but it allows us to speak our mind without fear of
being killed.Who should be put in charge of looking out for our
children?????Get your priorities straigt.
Do your research, their was another CONVICTED child abuser at the ranch. Your
right they are innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunatly for the
sexually abused girls they are innocent until violated.warren jeffs
is a convicted sex offender!!!If warren jeffs was released from
prison tomorrow by some idiot, a protection order would be a very good thing to
have.After reading the posts on this subject, nothing will suprise
me. Why do you assume that the girl is neither pregnant or a
You must be FDLS, you write like you have an 8th grade education. You just keep
blessing your prophet$ profit$. You must be getting paid to post here. I don't
think those of us capable of having our own thoughts are buying it.
Over 450 children taken by the state of Texas--BoldChild Protective
Services accused of being out of control--TypicalOne young girl
saved from future rape--Priceless
"we cannot comment because of the ongoing investigation".This could
be why investigators are not giving out all of the evidence. Get a
clue people. Let them do their jobs. Not all crimes are solved in an hour like
they are on TV.
'Maybe if people would get to know us firsthand...'How do you propose we
all do that? The P.R. department (Willie Jessop) doesn't seem to let many people
in the gates.To everyone criticizing Warren Jeffs: I would never
defend the guy. If the FLDS want to believe he's a prophet, they have every
right. I just think I would be pretty annoyed if people were criticizing my
eclesiastical leaders...though there isn't anything to criticize.Clearly
there are some FLDS women who have been well educated. There are some who have
entered into plural marriage as consenting mature adults. There are some who
love technology...but from what I see in the news on the ranch, there is a
"chosen" group who are behind locked gates, who are home-schooled by one another
(not a good cycle), who use poor grammer, shun the outside world, and are
lacking in many social skills. Why the disparity?
Raymond Jessop, Merrill Jessop, and Warren Jeffs will get their punishment for
the child rape and molestation. God will see that JUSTICE IS DONE for the
children.and Willie Jessop is nothing but a coward. By the
way, I thought the FLDS were against GLUTONY. Maybe Willie Jessop should
abide the GLUTONY laws, and lay off the groceries. Maybe he'd lose a few pounds.
The girl has no baby and is not married and has not been abused. Tis all a lie
and she is firing her ad litem for telling the lie for publicity. I know the
girl very personally as a sister. How long do you all have to believe these
lies? She asked her lawyer, "Why did you tell everyone that you think I have a
baby? If I did, I must have had it in my sleep." Her ad litem denied ever
saying this. You are all tricked because you cannot determine the spirit. This
too will prove to be a lie like all the lies that have been told about us. (By
the way, Warren Jeffs was a computer programmer, any of you who think we have
We need Warren Jeffs the true Prophet to come home. Then our church will once
again be whole. He is a good man, and has done his time.
I am an LDS woman who has been praying for the FLDS women, children, and
innocent men. Unlike some here who have been commenting, I refuse to believe
everyone has been guilty of abuse. I think Texas CPS really went out
of bounds on this one. They should never have taken all the children away, or
accused all the parents of abuse. They should have focussed on cases with
obvious abuse, and not blamed everyone. But, let this be a lesson to the FLDS.
They have a right to worship as they please (Articles of Faith 11), but they
also have a duty to sustain the law of the land (Articles of Faith 12), and
that's where they got themselves into trouble. This is why the LDS Prophet,
Wilford Woodruff revoked polygamy over 100 years ago. This is why we have grown
and prospered, and the FLDS has not. The Truth is on our side. Compare the
Bruce,Please explain: Is it: child sexual
Please Forgive any spelling errors and blame them on my un-education; not on my
laptop that has a few stuck keys that have to be pressed firmly to respond.
Hello, I am FLDS, a Female, opinionated, Big mouthed and TIRED of it! The
internet to me is a dictionary that I enjoy. I read somewhere that life is a
mirror; what you see is what you are. So I read this blog and conclude there is
good and evil all over the world. The best way to condem yourself is open your
mouth. Sometmes I should shut-up but most the time I don't! Please, People of
the World, Stop! Listen! Try to see The truth. What lesson have the children
been tought besides that their parents have told the truth... Those who love
evil will believe a lie. Kind-a like a mirror.
The vast number of cold and cruel things Mr. Warren Jeffs has ordered will keep
him behind bars.Only a small fraction of his misdeeds have come out into public
view as of yet. He certainly is no prophet by any true definition, except that
of false prophet. He is a calculating psycho with mesmerizing "sermons" which
are full of disgraceful ideas and demeaning terms. The pattern he follows is a
well-worn one- power, sex, and money. He has a ton of company amongst history's
other wretched leaders who set themselves up above others and ended up in hell.
He is surely headed there, as he refuses to point his followers to the only One
worthy of their loyalty, Christ Himself.When he has an occasional lucid moment,
he experiences guilt,but that passes. He uses Christ for his own evil purposes-
to keep power over brainwashed followers' minds. However, he is definitely no
follower of Christ by any stretch of the imagination,, and he will be one of the
ones who someday hears, "Depart from Me, I never knew you," when he faces the
Living God and asks for the second chance that he refused to give others.
"i just finished reading the book ESCAPE written by Merrill Jessop's 4th wife
Carolyn. the book gave me an insight to the world of polygomists."Sue,Never trust the words of an apostate regardless of what
religion they were from. They all have an ax to grind with their former faith
and so they are biased in that regard. Ann Eliza Web Young was one such person
and she wrote a similar type of book around the turn of the 20th century telling
the world about all the horrors she had experienced as a plural wife of Brigham
Young. Except there was one thing wrong. Nobody ever corroborated her story.
Yet her readers swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
Raymond Jeffs is one of Warren's brothers. The young lady is Warren's daughter.
(There may be a child from the relationship, as well.) The Kingstons, a
related polygamous group, has had members tried for doing the same thing.
i just finished reading the book ESCAPE written by Merrill Jessop's 4th wife
Carolyn. the book gave me an insight to the world of polygomists. it appears
that not all of the women thought Warren Jeffs was a profit. She was allowed an
education but only before he came along. The children who were force to marry
older men has been going on a long time before Warren Jeffs however Warren Jeffs
is a sick man who made these people think he was a profit. He is a sick man.
Read the book, it will amaze you.
The only sick twisted mess is the one created by Texas CPS in their attempt to
destroy the FLDS.
I'm an outsider so I can't speak for the FLDS, but If I was to put my best guess
forward, I'd guess that that they don't need any advice from outsiders as to how
best spread their ideas and religion to others. I'd bet that they already have
their own plan about how to live their lives and how much information they want
to share with the "outside" world. In the last few weeks on the internet alone,
I've been able to find out a tremendous amount of information about how they
live, the foundation of their religion, their behaviors, etc. Anyone else can do
as I have.Of course I'll probably be labeled a "Jeffs lover," but I
find much to admire about their lifestyle and some of their beliefs despite the
fact that I personally prefer to live a different kind of life. I think that if
they follow the marriage laws on age, and continue to be industrious taxpayers
on the YFZ ranch, I welcome them. I have no problem with polygamy. I hate child
abuse but believe that the vast majority of FLDS refrain from it.
wow - these comment sections are so entertaining! Many diverse views - even
some people saying Jeffs actually is the prophet. Now that's good clean fun!To all you FLDS posters - I suggest one of you FLDS women write a book
about how great your lives are in the FLDS. How it is so much
better to share your husband with many other women and how that gives you power
(rather than the other way around).How you are given opportunities
to fulfill your dreams of being something other than a housekeeper/caregiver.
(We know some of you must have such dreams.)How you are prompted to
get a higher education and told you can do many great things, and are given the
tools to do so.How you can fall in love and then get married, at the
time of your choosing, and to whom you choose.Tell us just how great
and free your life is. Then we may believe you. Until then, all we have are
the dozens (actually hundreds) of stories of abuse, jealousies, and shattered
lives.We would love to hear from you, ladies. (The men need not
apply - we've heard your side.)
Isn't it interesting that there is so much confusion about the one girl
that may or not be pregnant...may or may not have a baby.....may or not have
been abused. I don't mean to get to far fetched here but could it be
that the girl may or may not be the FLDS equal to Swinton....one mentally
disturbed child out of 450 isn't to far out there as far as probabilities.
I apologize if this deduction offends anyone but there are a lot of different
reports about her relative condition. Her confusion would lead to CPS confusion
in her individual case hence the childs ever changing pregancy condition and
People might get to know you if you were not so closed a community. What are you
all so afraid of? You should have missionaries out there telling people who you
are and preaching the gospel, not holing up in a holy huddle! If you believe in
your religion share it! You make yourselves look guilty of something hiding as
you all do. I live by your people most are very closed and act like they can't
speak to anyone on the outside. The Lord said in the great commission "God ye
out into the world and make disciples of men" how can you do that if you don't
live in the world? You must live in the world and not be OF the world otherwise
you can never bring your message to anyone nor can you learn to deal with others
as Christ would have. Follow Christ not a man! Roman's 10:9 will tell you about
salvation...the book of Romans will. Put some credence in something besides your
D&C. Don't claim something as your "standard works" if you don't believe that
some of them are worth reading. May God bless all of you with open eyes.
People in the FLDS should not be worshiping Warren Jeffs. The only ones worthy
of that should be the members of the Godhead. God the Father, Jesus Christ and
the Holy Ghost. No one else is qualified to be put in this catagory. Many men
are worth our deepest respect and admiration, but all men come short of being
worthy of worship. My best wishes to the FLDS in their quest to have their
families reunited and I sincerely hope that they can be led into more Godly
and will be there for a very long time. By the time he gets out, his daughter
will be an adult who can make her own decisions. No, he's not a
true prophet. True prophets don't abuse children.
Slander against the FLDS or the state of Texas is one thing, but writing bad
poetry is nearly unforgiveable. Don't quit your day job.
I am amazed by those who justify illegal actions by the State of Texas to
justify this one now apparant case of abuse. It is like rounding up everybody
in town and placing them in State custody while the authorities search for
illegal aliens, tax evaders, or any other group the government decides to
target. Then, when one illegal act is identified say, "it was worth
incarceating these hundreds for months because we now can prosecute the one
criminal we found. Those who were denied their freedom were denied it for a
good reason. The end (identifying one criminal) justifies the illegal means
(hundreds falsly arrested and incarserated for months)."
""We had read that they had a fear of technology, so we took down our computer
lab, and the first night one of the mothers pulled out her iPod and asked where
she could dock it," VanOsselar said. "It surprised us because we didn't expect
them to be so technology savvy," she said."You've got to be kidding
me! That's the funniest thing I've read all day. I wonder where they "read" it
from? Anyone want to guess?We have pretty much all the same
"technology" stuff you guys have, except all the video game consoles as it's
nothing but a waste of time & money. If we can use it, believe me, we'll put it
to good use, whatever the gadget might be. Maybe if people would actually get
to know us firsthand, not through a story-book, their perception just might
"He is in prison because a girl claimed that he forced her to get married and
forced her to have sex with her husband."No, Warren Jeffs is in
prison because the jury believed the truthful eyewitness testimony of the girl
who was abused instead of the lies of Jeffs and his followers.Someday, the FLDS will wake up and realize that they have been deceived by a
man who, from his own lips, confessed that he isn't, and never has been, a
prophet.Elissa Wall is only one of many women and men who have and
will testify of Warren Jeffs' illegal and immoral child bride marriages.
It's amazing how open the FLDS have been during this ordeal.They
need to keep it that way and maybe they will avoid the next crisis.
Misled | 11:18 a.m. June 4, 2008 "Warren Jeffs is not a prophet but a
child sex abuser. That is why he is in prison."Dear "Misled"These FLDS women know the Warren Jeffs case much better than you ever
will. He is NOT in prison for "child sex". He is in prison because a girl
claimed that he forced her to get married and forced her to have sex with her
husband. You could make the same charge agaist your Baptist Minister, but the
local DA would be much less likely to press charges. Why? Because he's Baptist.
Completely agree with Davidson, none of these things should have happened to
any group of people living in the United States. I have been horrified to see
this happen to innocent women and children. Regardless of what people believe,
no one should be subject to the cruelties that we have seen happen since this
heartless raid began. Much more thought, and maybe a little compassion should be
shown to those who are helpless. Any God under ANY religion would not condone
such cruelty. Of course, if crimes were committed, this should not be allowed. I
feel the whole process should have been handled differently. I think if the
State of Texas had fears and concerns for these children, they should have went
after the alleged perpertrators. And, I mean alleged, innocent until proven
guilty. It's obvious that it was wrong to attack these women and children.
Charla | 1:47 p.m. June 4, 2008"they should have taken the men out in
buses."Charla, they had no evidence of wrong-doing. They couldn't
take the men. That's the whole point.The irony of this whole mess is
that adult men have rights, so you have to have a good reason to arrest them.
But kids have no rights, so CPS has the power to detain them "for their own
protection".You can't assume the men did anything wrong until they
have been convicted by a jury of their peers. And even then, you can't just
"take them out in busses".
So much for the theory that the FLDS were isolated from the real world.From News8Austin Texas:"We had read that they had a fear of
technology, so we took down our computer lab, and the first night one of the
mothers pulled out her iPod and asked where she could dock it," VanOsselar said.
"It surprised us because we didn't expect them to be so technology savvy," she
Other reports from the the girl's Guardain ad Litem said that the girl has a
baby (as a result from underage rape/forced marriage) and another woman is
claiming that baby as her own child. It will be a good day when the DNA results
can clear up the sick, twisted mess these people are involved in.
Wait, I thought polygomists didn't have access to computers. Guess I was wrong
since there's a few Jeffs supporters here.
"What will they take from this experience as they grow into adulthood?"That there are good and bad people both inside and outside the YFZ compound
and, perhaps, a little perspective that not everything they've been told about
the outside world is true.Some of the children and mothers may have
even discovered that they have a right to make choices regarding their own
futures; that they don't have to live the rest of their lives dominated by men
who use them to fulfill their own desires and fantasies.
To Janet | 1:15 p.m. June 4, 2008 "look up Warren Jeffs' videotaped
confession"Not a confession, but a confidential conversation between
Jeffs and his family.How is it that a personal conversation between
Jeffs and his family is available on the internet?What Jane
believes, or what Jeffs has done, is no concern of yours. What should concern
you and every other citizen who believe he/she lives in a free country is
this:THE RELEASE BY A SITTING JUDGE OF THE PERSONAL, CONFIDENTIAL
COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN A DEFENDANT IN HIS COURTROOM AND HIS FAMILY MEMBERS.It may be true that Jeffs sexually abused his daughter and sister, but
this has not been proven. On the other hand, this judge has abused every man,
woman and child in America, and this has been proven.
Cast off all evil men who lie, claiming they speak for God, but would lead your
souls to the gallows. Save yourselves and your families from the dark side of
ignorance. May the peace and enlightenment of the Lord find you.
I was always been taught that you could tell a truthful leader of a church by
their actions and examples of moral living and their faith in God. They obey the
laws of the land being local, state and government. They don't hide and take
money from their followers for months. A true Prophet would never make rules to
fit their lifestyle and those of whom he could control. The rules and laws
should be the same for all members not a few. I am so very glad the
children are back with their mothers. I hope they heal quickly and smiles
return to their faces. Every child need's their mother to hug and kiss them when
they wake up and when they go to bed. They need to be safe. The children should
of stayed home and they should have taken the men out in buses.
Their homes invaded by armed menTheir house of worship violated and
ransackedDetained without causeCarted away by an antagonistic
religius groupDays of torment in the concentration campSeeing their
mothers humilated and abusedHours on end of interrogationThe
violation of the "physical exams"Their fellow detainees spirited away in
the middle of the nightFinally being wrenched from the arms of their
sobbing mothersFinding themselves suddenly alone with their tormentorsChased down and caught by stone-faced CPS matronsShipped off as far away
from their mothers as the geography of Texas allowedWeeks and weeks of
waiting in miseryNow returned to homes and schools that can be invaded at
any hour of the day by the very people who are responsible for their horror.What will they take from this experience as they grow into adulthood?That this is the justice of the outside world?The justice
that put Warren Jeffs into prison?Could you expect them to see it
any other way?What have you done, Texas?
Wake up and face reality that Warren Jeffs is a child abuser, not a prophet.As a 23-year-old woman with unrestricted internet access, you should
look up Warren Jeffs' videotaped confession in which he said:"I am
not the prophet. I never was the prophet, and I have been deceived by the powers
of evil."also look up statements he made in phone conversations
several days earlier where he said"that he lost his priesthood 31
years ago after being "immoral" with a sister and daughter."Words
from Jeffs' own lips.
To: Janet please read"Warren Jeff's remarks about black people were cruel,
unkind, untrue, and unjust..."Maybe he was only talking about Rosita
It is nice to the Pharisees are all on here today. God bless you devils.
Quite amazing, isn't it, that a civil government agency can not only twist arms
and get false confessions out of people for "abuse" under pain of losing their
children, but they can now place citizens under house arrest without due process
of law?Do you people see where this is going? Expanding civil
agencies by giving them police powers is in the communist manifesto. Do you
really think this is limited to this "cult"? They just made a convenient
excuse, something to make the jagged pill of losing your rights easier to
swallow (yea, saving the babies tends to do that).Janet: please know, not
everyone on the "outside" is of the outside. Just because some of us live more
in the world does not mean we live more of it.
the FLDS is just another place for perverts to hide. what normal man would have
sex with a child under 16? only a pervert. they should be treated the same as
anyone else who has forced sex upon a child. prison........
There is nothing Christlike about Warren Jeffs' teachings concerning the black
race. Joseph Smith himself often spoke kindly of black people, stated that they
were heirs of salvation, and even after they were restricted from the priesthood
(1849) they were still allowed to join the church. They were never considered to
be Satan's tool for bringing evil into the world, and many other early,
pre-manifesto Mormon leaders also said things about black people that were kind
and compationate even by our modern standards, not just the standards of their
day. Warren Jeff's remarks about black people were cruel, unkind, untrue, and
unjust, and there is no justification for teaching such things, especially not
Since the girl is neither pregnant nor a mother I am not sure how people are
so sure that Raymond Jessop is an abuser. Just because some court somewhere
orders no contact does not mean that someone is an abuser. They are still
innocent until proven guilty. Beyond this, just because one man at the
compound was an abuser does not give you the right to assume all the men were
One thing that strikes me as strange about the anti-FLDS crowd is their
assumption that legal = right and illegal = wrong.The great spiritual
leaders throughout history have been charged, and many convicted, of breaking
existing civil laws in order to live higher ones.I would also be
interested to know where people get the idea that there is a certain type of
person that God calls to be a "prophet". A little research on prophets
shows a very diverse bunch of folks, and indicate that God really doesn't ask
anyone else's opinion on who he puts in that position.
The FLDS people above are all FLDS men POSING AS WOMEN. These sickos always hide
behind the skirts of women. Nothing new with FLDS men. Nothing but degenerates.
AND WARREN JEFFS IS NO PROPHET! You people follow the devil.
Since Jeffs is in jail why does the judge even have to specify no contact with
him? Anyway, has anyone demonstrated that this girl ever even met Mr. Jeffs.
With his insanely high number of wives and children and his being on the run for
a few years, I would not be surprised if he had many children who he has never
Warren Jeffs is the only true prophet on the earth. Praise the man!
Time will tell, Warren Jeffs is the PROPHET!!!!!!!!No abuse has been proven. I
am with Janet, God bless his Prophet!!!!!I do not live in Texas but am a
multiple wife also. We all live very sweetly together. There is no arguing
withour group, we all LOVE and HELP one another. You have no right to tell us
what religion, such as FLDS, that we must worship. we have the rite to worship
as we please. We have found our lifestyles to be very happy. God bless his
I think Janet is a phony . Shes probably somebody trying to create some noise on
this blog. I doubt if she were really a real person and FLDS, that she would
actually have access to a computer and much less the internet.
Obviously not all brides of the FLDS are children nor are they all married to
men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers. Maybe some of the children
receive adequate educations but by observing video clips of some of the wives,
it was obvious that not all of them are well educated. I hope these people will
not continue to blindly follow their "Prophet", Warren Jeffs but will make
educated judgments. Look at the fruits of his labors. It's true that you don't
know what someone does if you aren't with them 24/7 but that doesn't mean that
Warren is above reproach. I personally believe that he sexually abused his
three nephews. They were there, do we just discount what they said? One of
them even committed suicide because of the abuse. What reason would Brent Jeffs
have for accusing Uncle Warren of such a terrible thing? He is not trying to
promote a book--he hasn't written one. It wouldn't buoy up his family, either.
I think he is courageous for coming forward. If even one of the things Jeffs is
being accused of is true, condemnation will come upon him, if not now, then in
"Willie Jessop, a spokesman for the F.L.D.S. group, said that to his knowledge
there was no credible evidence that accusations of sexual abuse relating to the
child in the court order were true."What a shock that Willie doesn't
believe that Warren could be guilty of child-abuse.CPS may have
over-stepped their authority in removing all of the children, but the individual
cases of FLDS men who have been abusing young girls through forced underage
marriages are starting to come out.It wouldn't surprise most people
if Willie's name is near the top of that list.
Wake up! You have a high school educated brain, dont you? People dont need to
FOLLOW anyone else!
To have gone through high school....as you stated.....why did you have to get
your GED then?...doesnt sound like to me your on the side of the truth. As far
as you believing in what you call a prophet...well....that is your right...just
like its my right to say..Jeffs is a phony wannabe prophet who uses his self
appointed title to justify his abuse and molestation of young children. If you
believe God speaks to Warren Jeffs telling Jeffs to do these unspeakable
acts...then we sure dont worship the same God.
Emma: The sooner the FLDS wake up and see that their so called prophet is in
PRISON, the sooner all the children will be safe from harm. Many
Christian saints were imprisoned. Those here castigating the victims of CPS
arrogance are not Christians. Their sense of right and wrong seems to come not
from any holy teachings, but from watching too much Law & Order, watching too
much creative getting around civil liberties to convict people even if theyre
Janet has a right to believe as she wishes but its also right to let her know
that Warren Jeffs is not a prophet but a child sex abuser. That is why he is in
prison. She has the right to know that the wool has been pulled over her eyes on
this man that they call a prophet-He is NO prophet!
Helping, child labor and illegal child labor are all different things. If farms
or ranches in any state are abusing child labor laws it needs to stop. And yes
the cost of adult laborers have to be added to the cost of the consumer goods.
Children are not farm equipment.
while i do not agree with nor support the flds lifestyle, the actions of that
state of texas have me greatly concerned as to the lengths the government will
go to chase down so called "wrondoers". these actions bring up the specter of
the government breaking down your doors because of unsubstantiated accusations,
and inuendo. It also brings up the terrifying thought of being persecuted for
your faith with no evidence of any criminal activity. The state of texas should
have only taken thoes children that were proven to have been abused or molested.
The state of texas is in the wrong here and should be held accountable for
violationg the 4th. amendment of the constitution
If CPS didn't do what they did in removing those kids the abused girl would
never have been helped.transplant-------------Apparently, the girl is being helped against her will. From the NY Times:
Willie Jessop, a spokesman for the F.L.D.S. group, said that to his knowledge
there was no credible evidence that accusations of sexual abuse relating to the
child in the court order were true. He said the girls lawyer was pursuing an
agenda, and that the girls mother had tried to find other counsel.
To Janet You are confused. Warren Jeffs is a false prophet. No woman
should ever be forced to marry a old man. It's better to marry and find a young
man of ones own age and choice. Much more fulfilling.
I'm sorry, but I do not agree with the fact that Warren Jeffs is Christ-like.
I think he is a very sad man in prison, who, has came to the conclusion...HE
ADMITTED IT...He is not the prophet!. He declares he is an evil man. Which I'm
not so sure he really is an evil sicko, he was a brainwashed little boy at one
time, just like the other children. I think Warren Jeffs is a victim, falling
into his birthright place to be able to be in the position to do these things. I
do not believe, until recently, when he denounced himself as prophet, that he
could see what he had done was really bad. I think this was the cycle of abuse
that CPS was trying to defeat, they just picked a cruel, inhumane way to do it.
This child, and the other few girls should have been treated as individuals. The
sooner the FLDS wake up and see that their so called prophet is in PRISON, the
sooner all the children will be safe from harm. The mother probably did not
protect her daughter from this man Raymond, because she herself is brainwashed.
to the writer who wrote to Janet. Janet has the right to worship as she
pleases. She is an adult and your slanderous remarks to her are wholly
unwarranted. She does not deserve your contempt.
Pray tell, unless you've been around someone 24/7 you can't claim with any
certainty whether or not they have abused anyone. Why don't you talk to child
brides (aka probably one of your half-sisters) or several of his nephews about
whether or not he abused (raped/sodomized) anyone?It's sad you
continue to blindly follow a convicted felon who enjoys "reassigning" families
(i.e. kidnapping the children from their fathers and forcing their mother to
"marry" and have sex with another man, not of their choosing).
Janet, you and I both know that not all of the people in your group are given
equal education and status. You and I both know that Mr Jeff's has treated some
people very poorly and that there is the higher status group and the lower class
group in your church. You and I both know that Mr Jeff's engaged in sexual
relationships with young girls and let other men do that with other girls.
Janet, I know, guess you don't that Mr Jeffs said that he was not the prophet
and that he was evil. A prophet would obey the laws of the land, he has broken
at least two, plural marriage and marriage age. The wealth that is in your
church comes from cheating the tax system and also being on government welfare.
I would advise you to spend two years outside of your community and go to
school, get a job, meet people that have different values and be your own
strength. To really be strong in your values is proven when you can live in the
real world and stay true to yourself.
Re transplant. Yep....eliminate the child labor...no more
kids helping on the farm, that should shut down half the farms in Texas. I guess
we can hire all the illegals that are out of jobs in the housing industry.
In my state, the child would not be going back to mom's custody if there was
proof of abuse, and mom would be charged with failure to protect.
Pray for the children: Focus! This is not about religion or false
prophets or Gods and spirits, etc. OK? Also try to stop trashing people's faith
religion etc. Moreover, if you want your religion trashed like you are doing to
the FLDS, then simply mention it here and I am sure many will oblige you. Just
focus on the facts in evidence. Avoid the rumors. Avoid following your
hysterical emotions and fears. Focus on the facts in evidence. OK?
I sincerely hope that the FLDS will come to their senses and renounce the evil
leadership that jeopardized the FLDS children, as they pursued unrighteous
dominion over the followers. Lets hope this mother actually complies with the
Didn't your "Christ-like" prophet tell you it was bad to use the internet?!
Maybe you ought to go sew or make more babies or something.
If CPS didn't do what they did in removing those kids the abused girl would
never have been helped. I don't think any reasonable thinking person believes
that she would have remained on the ranch during a house to house investigation
for victims. No way. These kids now have an awareness of potential abuse growing
up and more likely not choose to be a party to it. Texas has prevented an
immearsurable amout of damage to this population. Also a lesson in change. You
can do it. I'm hoping that the next issue tackled is that of child labor.
If this child was offered up as a child bride aren't both her parents
[A man named Raymond Jessop is also prohibited from having any contact with
her. The order does not say what the relationship is between him and the
girl.]I think we can figure out the "relationship."I'm glad the kids GENERALLY are being returned. But I'm not glad about this
girl. If she has been sexually abused, it was very likely with her mothers
knowledge. She didn't protect her daughter before. Will she now?
I am 23, I have gone through high school and I have a GED. I chose not to go to
college. Warren Jeffs has not abused anyone, he is Christ-like. Truth will
prevail, and I want to be on the side of truth. God bless His Prophet!
Save the Flds children. They need to be free from becoming sex slaves. I pray
God will help the mothers so that they can help their children. I hope the
authorities can stop all the sex abuse in the Flds cult. The Flds', false
prophet, Warren Jeffs needs to stay behind bars for the rest of his natural
life. He is an evil man and should never see the light of day or ever be given
the chance to be around another young girl to abuse.
Way to go CPS.......the child has to keep away from Warren Jeffs. The
guy is behind bars several hundred miles away for the next ten years at a
minimum. The other guy has 1700 acres to occupy his time. So the
stall lasted an extra couple of days and cost how much more money. Is the other
guy even on the ranch or he "vacationing" in Mexico?
Fantastic. Her father should be easy to keep away, since Utah has him locked
up, and Arizona might want a piece of him after that, and who knows after
that?We keep hearing that there was "other evidence of abuse", but
no explanation of what that might be. Is it the same type of evidence that kept
adults in custody as minors? Is it that kind of evidence?If there
are specific cases of abuse, treat them on a case by case basis, as is being
done for this girl. That is the correct approach.
This is what they should have done two months ago. Instead of coming in there
knocking down doors they should have investigated and then dealt with the few
cases of abuse that could be legitimate. I am glad this girl is
with her mom, I am glad she is being protected from anyone that would hurt her.
If a person did hurt her I hope he gets justice handed to him.
Sounds like Warren Jeffs will be moving back to Texas after serving his time in
Utah and Arizona.
looks like the first abuser, Raymond Jessop, has been identified. I wonder if
he's made it to Canada or Mexico yet?So now there are several
mothers that aren't returning to the ranch. I was hoping there would be more
(perhaps there will be), so the children could have a real future instead of
spending their whole lives watering flowers. Big world out there. Be good if
they had some choices in life. Maybe the kids will now get more
than an 8th grade education. Now that would be outstanding.