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  • Reason
    June 4, 2008 5:09 p.m.

    Krauthammer is a wise man. His theory may sound odd on the surface, but it makes sense: Environmentalism is being used in an attempt to accomplish many of the same things that socialism has attempted, such as more restrictions on peoples lives, greater government control over the means of production and distributions (i.e., businesses), rationing, higher taxes, etc., all with the accompanying loss of freedom.

    The environmental approach appears to be more successful than the direct socialism approach, because it promotes a fear of the future (the unproven-and-dubious theory of man-made global warming, and other doomsday predictions) and exploits the desire of good-hearted people to be good stewards of the earth.

  • Lewt
    June 4, 2008 3:41 p.m.

    Hats off to Roland K., who, in the wee hours, managed to include both "simpering sycophant" and "insipid invective". As for Chuck K., it's amazing that guys like him can be so wrong for so long about so much and never have to account for it. They must contract through the syndicate by the decade. Being a big neocon pundit evidently means never even thinking "I'm sorry".

  • peperlake
    June 4, 2008 2:37 p.m.

    MEB,
    you are right. I would like to comment about the stipulation listed in the bill that says the president must report to congress within 48 hours of attacking iraq and pass these requirements -

    "(1) reliance on further diplomatic or peaceful means alone will not achieve the above purposes; and (2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization for use of the armed forces, consistent with requirements of the War Powers Resolution."

    if you think bush exhausted his diplomatic resources and that iraq had anything to do with 9/11 maybe you should ask Mr. Bin Laden about this.

    the war powers resolution is the vote i referred to in my comment anyway.

  • Ultra Bob
    June 4, 2008 2:13 p.m.

    Bush lied. The real reason to attack Iraq was to gain control over the flow of oil. All the propaganda about intelligence, WMD, war on terror was just a cover up for the actuall reason.

    Congress and the American people bought it hook-line-and-sinker. Many people still believe in the big lie.

  • MEB
    June 4, 2008 12:58 p.m.

    Uh, Peperlake, you missed something. What do you call HJ Res 114 passed on October 2, 2002? Go back and read the entire resolution. It's clearly authorizing the President to use the US Armed Forces in Iraq in order to bring to pass a number of demands (all of which were reasonable, I might add).

    This joint resolution was passed by almost 70% of the Congress, including 81 Democrats.

    Isn't it interesting that you hear so many people yell out 'Bush lied', but none of those 81 Democrats who voted for the resolution are saying that. Why do you suppose that is??? Why did Hillary start down that path, then quickly pulled back those comments? Because, like Sniper Fire, people were calling her on the comments, and she realized that people were once again seeing through her disingenuous claims.

  • peperlake
    June 4, 2008 12:19 p.m.

    i am tired of reading comments from conservatives that congress gave Bush permission to attack Iraq. they did no such thing. they gave him permission to fight a war on terrorism, to catch Bin Laden. Bush used that as his excuse to attack Iraq. he cherry picked the intellegence reports and finished what he thought his daddy should have finished.

  • fr1nk
    June 4, 2008 8:24 a.m.

    Krauthammer is a partisan hack, nothing more.

  • Dave
    June 4, 2008 8:09 a.m.

    They said they would get Sadddam. Where they wrong?

  • Earl
    June 4, 2008 7:47 a.m.

    Roland, didn't you hear the rumor about the debates going on in the editorial board room? Before they went with Deseret Morning News, they were considering the name Deseret Neocon News.

  • DCF
    June 4, 2008 7:44 a.m.

    And so was Hillary Clinton, Charles Schumer and Barbar Boxer.

    You are being very selective in who was right and who was wrong in the Iraq war. In hind sight we could have done better but in hind sight I could be a billionaire who also played professional football. Everyone's a genius in hindsight. What's your point?

    There is a quote from the current President of the Czech Republic that basically says the greatest threat to democracy is not socialism but environmentalism. This gentleman was born and raised in a communist society and knows the differences. He also watches as so many of the die-hard socialists are no longer pushing "socialism" but now are environmentalists. And in order to save 'mother Earth' they are pushing the exact same policies. Now they are no longer fighting for the proletariate masses but instead clean drinking water, etc.

    If the left/Democats/environmentalists get their way we will be buying $8 a gallon gas! And for many of them they are happy for that. This way we can all dump our automobiles and walk or ride bikes. Democrats/enviromentalists/Left just outlawed the incandescent lightbulb, true story! By 2014 we have to buy flourescent lights! Holy cow!

  • Kevin
    June 4, 2008 7:22 a.m.

    I like that word, claptrap.

  • Well, let's see
    June 4, 2008 5:43 a.m.

    Go back and read a couple of the comments on Sunday after the original article ran. The are pretty right on. Read "wait a minute" and "Kevin". You will find very intersting and right on comments.

    Paul and Roland: You just have shown how truly arrogant you are. Krauthammer is a brilliant man and should actually be listened to more. And, by the way Roland, name calling is truly immature and classless, not to mention utterly unnecessary.

    There is an all out effort to control us and we better get wise to it. Gore is incorrect and is misleading millions. Funny to me that true scientists who disagree with GWARMING cannot get listened to by the media. They are seldom quoted and when they are, they are maligned.

    Wake up everyone... environmentalism is dangerous for you, your children and your grandchildren...

  • A different view point
    June 4, 2008 4:39 a.m.

    Would you be so kind as to give us a few examples that he was 100% wrong about about everything regarding the run up to the Iraq war?

    Some how I must have missed it.

  • Agki
    June 4, 2008 3:30 a.m.

    Every single pundit, every single neo-con, every single administration member who wrote columns, appeared on the news shows, or made speeches during the run-up to the war was 100% WRONG. How do these people still get their drivel published? How do they still get well paid spots on news shows? Why do any of these people still have jobs? Thank you Scott McClellan for coming out of the closet even if it was so late.

    It is long past time for the American people to learn the difference between news and propaganda.

  • Roland Kayser
    June 4, 2008 12:50 a.m.

    Read Krauthammer's columns in the run-up to the Iraq war. He was 100% wrong about everything. Why does anyone still listen to this simpering sycophant? Why does any newpaper still publish his insipid invective?