How did FLDS raid go wrong?

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  • zxcvbnm
    June 13, 2008 6:03 p.m.


    RE govt worker:....Remember Lincolns' words is quite the saying.
    Ole Abe told Brigham Young in 1858 that he would treat LDS like the tree in the field that was to heavy to move........Lincoln would plow around it.
    Seems that ole Abe was a pragmatic guy....

  • A gov't worker
    June 1, 2008 8:59 p.m.

    Cosmo's comments have some merit. One thought needs to be added. "Government" in the US is simply a bunch of citizens who have been given authority by their fellow citizens, supposedly to promote the common good. That authority too easily becomes power, and power attracts corruption. The government could not do what Cosmo describes without the willing participation of a majority of the governed. Remember Lincoln's words about "government of the people, by the people, for the people."

    Having said that, there are some of us who work for government who get satisfaction out of helping citizens resolve problems.

  • Shelama
    June 1, 2008 4:08 p.m.

    I agree with everything that's been said.

  • celia
    June 1, 2008 1:14 p.m.

    One problem was incompetence by Judge Walther and CPS. One wonders that Walther has a law degree, much less remembers anything from the courses that she should have taken to earn it. She took a very big leap (above and beyond the law) when she decided to treat them all as one "group family" rather than "individual families". As a legal theory that just did not fly, and I think she should have anticipated that it would not.

    I also think she had no intention of ever giving little kids and infants back. Some indication of that was her initial order to wean, and put on formula, all infants including newborns. Only after wide criticism did she retreat to the under 12mo rule 3days later. She was separating those kids because she had every intention that they would be adopted out.

    Overall, what "went wrong" was Walthers overreaching and the inherent evil of what she was doing.

  • COSMO
    June 1, 2008 11:32 a.m.

    Government deserves the hate and loathing that it receives. Its true function is to grow in power,and to do that it must enslave the people, it purports to serve. Get rid of 80% of the entire governments in this country, and 80% of our problems will simply
    dissappear.I know that that sounds hard and radical,
    but all governments work the same way. It does not matter what type you have, they all end up the same,
    controlling the people and institutions more and more.
    A perfect analogy is; if you work for Witch Hunters Inc. then there must be witches. And if you run out
    of witches, then it follows that you are out of a job. So you become the creator of witches that are to be found, or you start looking for goblins,as to further expand your department. And remember that "doing good has no end".

  • A gov't worker
    June 1, 2008 10:05 a.m.

    The answer to the headline is easy. People look at a situation and say that is horrible, why doesn't the government do something about it. Then when the govenment tries to do something about it, the people say oh, that terrible government, look how they trample on people's rights. People love to hate the government.