Utah Utes football: U. talking to Irish about 2010 matchup

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  • CrimsonUtes
    June 11, 2008 8:40 a.m.

    Hopefully this game works out. The more wins over BCS teams we can get, the better, and we have to play 'em to get wins. This game would be good for Utah and good for the Mountain West.

  • Re: clueless
    June 2, 2008 8:22 p.m.

    Pal, you lost that battle. The other guy got you. You are clueless because you think BYU backed out of the deal with Nevada, but it was the other way around. As he said, get a clue!

  • Alex Trebek
    June 2, 2008 12:06 p.m.

    A one-time deal, huh? That's what it means to be the little brother. Yewts busted the BCS (which was created because of BYU) and still don't get any respect.

    Yeah Right:

    You can thank the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for that stadium of yours that isn't even big enough for the Irish to want to come play you there. Without SLOC the MUSS would still be pulling splinters out of their heineys.

    Meanwhile, I'll thank all of the LDS yewt faithful who were so good with their tithing. You guys made Lavell Edwards Stadium possible! Thanks!

  • Nice Job Utes
    June 2, 2008 12:02 p.m.

    I am glad that we are finally scheduling some tough games. As a Ute fan, I want us to be in a position that we have to add on to Rice Eccles so that we can attact bigger opponents to Salt Lake. My hats off to UCLA for traveling to Salt Lake and to Tennessee for traveling to Laramie, Nashville and Rutgers. All of their stadiums hold less than 45,000. I read in Sports Illustrated two years ago that most upper teams in the Big 10, SEC and won't travel to teams unless they live within a major airport and the stadium holds over 50,000.

    If our fans show up every game, we could add on another 6 thousand seats bringing the stadium to over 53,000 specatators.

    Let's go Ute fans.

  • I recall
    June 1, 2008 10:31 p.m.

    I seem to recall Texas A&M climbing as high as 15 in the polls back in 2004 before losing to Texas and Oklahoma. Oregon and Cal both won 8 games back in 2003, you can't really call that a down year for any of those programs.

  • Re: Barometer Y U
    June 1, 2008 4:45 p.m.

    Michigan was not ranked at the time they met BYU in the Holiday Bowl. Pitt was #3 in the preseason, but only won 3 games that year. You're right though. BYU's "big" victories come over teams that finish mediocre ('95 Texas A&M, '04 Notre Dame), but I can't recall our team ever beating a team that finished strong since the Freedom Bowl matchup against Arizona in 1994.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Barometer Y U
    June 1, 2008 4:24 p.m.

    BYU is Barometer U. Whenever BYU has beaten a "big time" program, that program has been mediocre at best that season. Even if that team was ranked when the game was played ('84 Pitt and Michigan for example).

    There is one exception, when they beat Miami in Provo, Miami went on to be a good team that year. That year was also my favorite Holiday Bowl. I remember everybody wondering who they could possibly get to give BYU a good game. Final Score: Texas A&M 65, BYU 14 The QB was the Offensive MVP, but not BYUs.

  • BYU Travels?
    June 1, 2008 11:11 a.m.

    Yeah, BYU is bigger nationally in Gymnastics and Mens and Womens Basketball. Please. Even though mens hoops has been down for a couple of years they still have a better national reputation than BYU hoops EVER will. Everybody knows our women's programs are better than yours, year in and year out. No contest. As for football, well let's just say they have the same national reputation as the bball team: Can't win in the post-season.

    Sorry, but you can't say BYU travels well just because the Central Texas Stake has organized all of the Wards and distributed FREE tickets to all of the members for the TCU game, most of whom don't even cheer for BYU except for when directed to do so by the local church leadership.

    'BYU travels well' is one of the biggest myths in college sports. Of the few thousand people that cheer for BYU at an away game, maybe 300 actually traveled from more than an hour away from the stadium they are playing in. Utah will have as many fans at the Michigan and Notre Dame games as BYU would if they were playing there.

  • Big brother to a wanna be
    May 31, 2008 11:55 p.m.

    Utah is the little brother now like they have always been and always will be. The only way Utah could ever surpass the level of BYU athletics would be if a revelation was given for BYU to drop every sports program like happened to Ricks College.

    Notably, most of the BYU posters here are kind of senseless in their arguments as are most of the die-hard fans of any college program. But at least they will fill LES and will travel to (or at least be well represented at) away games.

    Better dead than red.

  • I'm clueless?!
    May 31, 2008 11:11 p.m.

    Who is trying to prop up their D-1AA opponents as quality teams? So what if those teams are good in their conferences. Do you think Michigan gets a pass against App. State because they have won the D-1AA national championship recently? No.

    Yes BYU has played a lot of good teams over the years. So has Utah. The difference is Utah is continuing to schedule tough teams while BYU is backing out of deals with tough teams and replacing Nevada with No. Iowa, allegedly because there was nobody else(fyi: there were about 20 D-1 teams with openings that matched the cougars opening after Nevada backed out).

    Also worth noting; Bronco recently said something to the effect of 'Hawaii has set the model for how to get to the BCS in the easiest fashion' meaning he would like to follow their lead and schedule down so that his team can get where the Utes have already been, the BCS.

    Who's the little brother now?

  • re: re: Big teams
    May 31, 2008 10:43 p.m.

    You fit into my statement "needs to get a clue." All I was saying was that BYU haters never consider who they do play who are good, but can only slam them for smaller schools like N. Iowa. BYU plays fantastic teams, and so does the U, but you clearly missed my point. I said nothing of the B$ nor how important games were 10 years ago, I merely was saying BYU schedules big teams, but people like you refuse to want to like that because your blinded by red goggles.

    Since you like to diss BYU for N. Iowa type teams, I should point out N. Iowa was undefeated until the playoffs, E. Washington was top of their conference, and E. Illinois swept their conference, all in those respective years. If you want to talk about cream puffs, BYU schedules far better of those than utah. N. Arizona was run-of-the-mill, and Weber State, well we all know how bad they are. Eat your own words.

  • Re: Big Teams
    May 31, 2008 10:11 p.m.

    So if BYU were to go 11-1 this year and get left out of the BCS and national critics said it was because they played No. Iowa, your response would be "look at who we played 10 years ago, and look at who we are going to play in 5 years!" ???????

    Who cares what you have done? It's all about what you are doing, and the Utes are scheduling Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, and Colorado. BYU is scheduling No. Iowa and Army. Woo-hoo. Those games will be real exciting.

  • Big teams
    May 31, 2008 10:04 p.m.

    Utah has played big teams like UCLA, BSU, etc. People who are so clueless don't realize BYU has scheduled USC, BSU, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Mississippi and so on. They are scheduled to play Ohio State, Florida State, Notre Dame, BSU, and UCLA. Anyone wanting to mock BYU for their "cream puffs" needs to get a clue and a life.

  • Wannabe
    May 31, 2008 9:09 p.m.

    Hi Colin Cowherd! Who knew you were message board guy? Rodriguez will be lucky to finish with 6 wins this year.

  • Important News Flash
    May 31, 2008 7:44 p.m.

    Rich Rodriguez will be looking to start off his career right at Michigan and will show no mercy against Utah. Utah will get stomped at Michigan like a narc at a bike ralley. This is not the "Lloyd Carr" wolverines you played a few years ago.

  • Home vs Away
    May 31, 2008 6:06 p.m.

    Utah, don't worry about the number of home games. Playing USU in Logan is essentially a home game.

  • Re: bsubroncos
    May 31, 2008 5:57 p.m.

    You have every right to be excited. I am too. I would have loved to see a game in 2004. BSU had a great team then, too. I hope the MWC and WAC play MORE games against each other. Enough is enough with these two conferences seeking out other schools in the BCS to boost their program. I would rather see two teams from this region play each other ANY DAY OF YEAR!!! Best of luck and bring on the Broncos!

  • BSU fans
    May 31, 2008 5:23 p.m.

    Keep on talking because BSU is on the decline. You had some good years and you had your time in the sun but reality will slap you in the face soon enough. You've got Utah and BYU several times in the next 10 years and Utah and BYU are going to slap you silly. I don't care what happened recently. The WAC sucks and no one cares about the blue turf anymore. You're going to see BYU and Utah continue to improve and the WAC continue to suck even more. It was good for you while it lasted but Idaho will always be Utah's little annoying brother to the north.

  • Re:Re:Re:Weber St.
    May 31, 2008 4:57 p.m.

    Remember, this article is about Notre Dame. The Notre Dame that went 3-9 last year so don't bring up Washington's Pac 10 finish as an argument for strength of schedule. Colorado has been terrible the past few years. If you are going to make an argument that Colorado is on the rise you can also make an argument that Washington is on the rise. I also notice you brought up Army on BYU's schedule but ignored Florida St. and Arizona St. I'm not saying BYU has a tougher schedule than Utah. I am just saying that the schedules are very comparable.

    P.S. Wasn't Louisville 6-6 last year?

  • BSU
    May 31, 2008 4:47 p.m.

    Ya I saw how BYU whooped on BSU last time they came to Provo!.

  • Re: kwt
    May 31, 2008 4:44 p.m.

    Dude ND beat UCLA last year!!.

  • bsubroncos
    May 31, 2008 2:48 p.m.

    Utah fans don't need to travel all the way to Michgan or South Bend to get drilled. Come try Boise State who has beat you everytime you have allowed us the opportunity to play (in Salt Lake ov course). Thank you BYU for having the guts to play us home and home and for signing a four game series starting in 2012. We are looking forward to it.

  • Let's all graduate
    May 31, 2008 2:44 p.m.

    Is it time for BYU and Ute fans (and USU fans) to graduate from junior high and end these childish debates? It's just a game. If your team wins or loses it doesn't make you better or worse. Really, it's going to be OK.

  • Pathetic
    May 31, 2008 2:41 p.m.

    Even a story in late spring can get Utah and BYU fans defensive and hate filled. They even have to bag on USU and Weber State in the process. How can an informational story turn into trash talk.

    News flash nobody outside of the WASATCH front cares about Utah or BYU. Congrats for the Utes that is a great deal to play in South Bend hopefully all the Utah fans attending the game can have some class to repair the damage BYU fans have undoubtedly done by acting like idiots in their prior visits to South Bend.

    And please don't discrace citizens of Utah by doing the HAKA dance on SOuth Bend Soil.

    It isn't even may yet. Hold in your rage and hate over the summer so you can let it go when the season starts. Do something constructive with your time this summer.

  • Pot & Kettle
    May 31, 2008 2:21 p.m.

    I just finished reading Dick Harmon's debacle...er article regarding Riley Nelson. I can't tell you how many comments I ready where BYU said they don't comment on University of Utah stories. Perhaps this comment board regardign a Utah story is a complete fluke? Get real!

  • Jay
    May 31, 2008 2:18 p.m.

    I was the biggest BYU fan-season tickets for over 10 years. I died when BYU lost-esp with Bosco at UTEP. Detmer does not have a bigger fan. All changed when my daugter pitched for the U. I came to respect Chris Hill and love Mary Bowman- girl's athletic director. I am the world's biggest Lavelle fan-best coach ever! The difference is Lavelle would play anyone. Added Flor. State to open the season-then played at Penn. St.-then played at UCLA. Must of helped because at the Holiday Bowl they tied Iowa 10-10 when Hanks intercepted Detmer at the 20 yard line with a minute left. Iowa was ranked number 7. To start a season he added Georgia with Hershal even though Lavelle had a new qb. Pretty good one named Young-but that was not a good start. Lavelle said that to be the best you have to play the best and he was never one to run from anyone. Even though it meant playing only one game at the schools. I wish we could bring back Edwards and Tuckett-can't! but at least bring back their courage in scheduling! This BYU team can beat anyone!

  • transfers
    May 31, 2008 1:54 p.m.

    BYU should try to play the best teams in the country. Maybe they could get some players to transfer to BYU at halftime. They like to raid other teams while players are on missions, so why not just recruit during games too.

  • BYU raising the bar? (ya right)
    May 31, 2008 1:30 p.m.

    I guess E. Washington, N. Iowa, and E. Illinois were not available. OH wait- that is BYU's schedule. And - "We want to go undefeated just like Hawaiiii did!" You got that right! At least Utah and Kyle are doing it right. OR in BYU's mind- At Michigan and hosting N.S.E.W. Iowa is the same(just in case - N.S.E.W. means North, South, East, West - because fans don't know which team BYU is adding or will add in the future).

  • Disclaimer
    May 31, 2008 1:02 p.m.

    Maybe it is time for the D-News to add a line to the disclaimer about commenting on here. It could read: Only 1 out of every 4 Ute-fan comments will be posted.

    I sware, that is the ratio of my comments that make it on these comment boards. I'm not abusive or offensive or off-topic or misrepresentative, I never use more than 200 words, and I never post URL's.

    What gives D-News?

    If the deal with Notre Dame does get finalized, it will be one heck of a game. Notre Dame will likely have a senior QB and so will the Utes with Louks.

  • Re:Re:Weber St.
    May 31, 2008 12:48 p.m.

    OSU and WSU may be middle of the Pac-10, but they are closer to the top than Washington is. Weren't they 9th place last year? And wouldn't you know it, BYU's schedule is littered with games against the mighty Huskies in years to come. BYU also has perennial power Army coming up in a few years. Wow.

    BYU's future schedules are not as good as Utah's are. They both have USU and Boise so that is a wash, but Utah has Michigan, Notre Dame(maybe), Oregon, Louisville, and Colorado which is on the rise thanks to Hawkins.

    BYU's schedules are nice, but Utah's are better.

    p.s. @ Michigan is tougher than home vs. UCLA and @ Washington is easier than home vs. Oregon State.

  • Proud Ute
    May 31, 2008 12:25 p.m.

    This is why I am proud to be a Ute.

    Anyone, anytime, anywhere!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Re: Weber St.
    May 31, 2008 12:21 p.m.

    Just a reminder. BYU grabbed No. Iowa because Nevada backed out at the last minute. As for your so called "name programs", Iowa St., Oregon St., Washington St., UNC. Good examples? Iowa St. lost to Northern Iowa just last season. Oregon St. and Washington St. are middle to bottom PAC 10 teams. UNC plays basketball. You can't use UCLA and Arizona as examples because those are the teams Ute fans argue aren't very good when BYU schedules them. BYU has Northern Iowa and Utah St. this year. Utah has Weber St. and Utah St. BYU has UCLA and Washington. Utah has Michigan and Oregon St. Pretty similar schedules if you ask me. In 2009 BYU has Florida St. and Arizona St. Utah has Louisville, Oregon, and San Jose St. The schedules are pretty much the same for the next five years in terms of strength. As for BYU getting App-Stated. Not a chance. The Utes are the team in Utah that likes to do that when they lost to Idaho at Rice-Eccles in the early 90's.

  • byu IS afraid...
    May 31, 2008 11:58 a.m.

    Weber St. has been on our schedule for a couple of years now, which is pathetic. However, RECENT history shows the Utes making arrangements to add perennial powerhouse teams such as Michigan and Notre Dame, while the cougars have been making arrangements to unload perennial powerhouse teams like LSU and Notre Dame from theirs. I don't think we're losing any arguments by claiming to schedule up. Cougar fans like "re: byu is afraid | 11:32 a.m." need to learn how to argue with lucid points, rather than emotional ones.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Weber State
    May 31, 2008 11:54 a.m.

    At least Weber is an in-state school and there is an intriguing storyline to the game: The Return of Ron Mcbride. BYU grabbed No. Iowa for one reason and one reason only, a guaranteed W.

    I will laugh so hard if BYU gets App-Stated on Aug. 30!

    Utah CAN say they are scheduling up: With recent games against Cal, ,Oregon, Arizona, Texas A&M, UCLA, UNC, and Louisville, and future games with Michigan, Oregon State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Louisville, Washington State, Iowa State, Colorado, and Boise State. The Utes are scheduling 'name-programs' that in any given season will be good teams.

  • Rudy
    May 31, 2008 11:33 a.m.

    "You hear that guys?! My boys are goin' to Notre Dame!! My boys are goin' to Notre Dame!!

  • re: byu is afraid
    May 31, 2008 11:32 a.m.

    Granted BYU is playing N. Iowa this year, but "Utah's schedule going up" Say it now becuase after Sept 27 when the Yewts play "The Weber State University" you wont be able to use that argument anymore.

    May 31, 2008 11:17 a.m.

    Is that AZ WHY fan married to his first cousin?
    I would suspect all the WHY fans are calling channel 11 and asking them to schedule WHY Classic Football and be sure to run the game in which the WHY beat ND.

  • Henry Drummond
    May 31, 2008 11:06 a.m.

    At one time BYU was scheduled to play Notre Dame in 2010. They pulled out of the series when Bronco and Company decided the best way to return to glory was to play lesser opponents. The fact that Utah is taking their place seems somewhat ironic.

    What will be interesting to watch is whether Utah fans are willing to watch their team take on better opponents and not win as many games or if they do what the BYU faithful did and stay home.

    May 31, 2008 10:50 a.m.

    BYU fans are afraid!!!

    Not only is BYU trying to schedule down(examples: dropping LSU from schedule, and playing a 1AA team three out of four years since Bronco took over).

    Utah has been scheduling up for the last 10 years or so.

    Better opponents means better recruits, better recruits means better teams, better teams means more wins, more wins means more money, more money means having the ability to get better deals with better teams. Then the cycle repeats itself, only it is 'AT A HIGHER LEVEL' the second time around.

  • Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 10:45 a.m.

    USU is a home game no matter where it's played. Take the ND game, even if you only have 5 on the schedule at RES that year.

  • Yeah Right!
    May 31, 2008 10:40 a.m.

    BYU gets name teams to come to Provo so they can whoop them? PLEASE!

    Every time BYU has played Notre Dame it has been a 2 for 1 similar to the arrangement BYU currently has with Utah State. Notre Dame sees BYU the same way BYU sees USU. And the fact of the matter is if RES had just 5,000 more seats Utah could get the same 2 for 1 with ND that BYU has had in the past.

    Getting a return game from the Irish has nothing to do with how good your team is and has everything to do with how big your stadium is.

    Utah has played plenty of great schools and beaten many of them too. In the last 15 years or so Utah has beaten nearly every team in the Pac-10 including USC. Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Kansas, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, Louisville have all been Utah opponents.

  • BYU fans need a football lesson.
    May 31, 2008 10:32 a.m.

    First of all the U is going to be playing michigan this year at the Big House. Michigan is not a top 10 team this year? This will be Michigans worst team in the last 25 years and the U should win. ND has smoked BYU the last couple times they have played. As for ND, they should have a great team in 2010. It will be Jimmy Clausens senior year at QB. He was considered one of the top college recruits in the last 10 years. Anyway, see you in South Bend. Cant wait to see a Utah vs ND matchup on the nicest campus in the country. Go Utes!

  • Re: Re: BCS Buster
    May 31, 2008 10:23 a.m.

    Typical BYU hypocrite. You comment on "BCS Buster" because s/he was referring to a game back in January 2005, but ignore that s/he was simply responding to the 2nd post of the day, "AZ Coug", who was boasting of a 2004 cougar [3-pt] victory 4 MONTHS EARLIER. Either that or regarding another W over the Irish A DECADE BEFORE THAT.

  • re Daniel
    May 31, 2008 10:15 a.m.

    What big boys have you played since Bronco came to town? Mediocre PAC 10 teams don't count

  • AZ: Please check your facts.
    May 31, 2008 10:05 a.m.

    how about October 15th 1994 in south bend

    BYU 21
    ND 14 ?

    Ewettes fans are funny. I am surprised at how many can work a computer though...

  • Re: BCS Buster
    May 31, 2008 9:45 a.m.

    Please check the date on your computer...it's 2008. I know Yewt fans like to pretend that it's still 2004 and that one good year makes a football dynasty, but please do try to focus on the present and future instead of the past - that is if it's not too painful. Here's to the Irish teaching the silly Utah Hillbillies a lesson in 2010.

  • Dim Whit
    May 31, 2008 9:37 a.m.

    Too bad Kyle won't be around to coach this game...

  • Re: AZ coug
    May 31, 2008 9:29 a.m.

    My most recent recollection of BYU in South Bend brings to mind Brady Quinn shredding BYU's secondary for numerous single game records and a "W" If you want to talk about 1-2 starts, then yes, you have been there and done that!

  • Vernal roid
    May 31, 2008 9:15 a.m.

    I wonder if the Gators would be willing to play the Utes, Urban knows what it's like to play a bunch of nobodys every year, and it's not like he dosen't owe the U of U for much of his success and helping him get national recognition.

  • kwt
    May 31, 2008 9:10 a.m.

    Perfect time to play the Irish when they are losing lots of games. It is about time the Utes start playing "name" teams. They want respect, but til recently, Chris Hill keeps scheduling cupcake teams. Michigan and UCLA are a start. The jury is still out on if the Utes will continue to improve schedules.

  • Anonymous
    May 31, 2008 9:08 a.m.

    Actually, BYU got drilled when they played at Notre Dame.

  • tongue in Cheek
    May 31, 2008 9:00 a.m.

    Schools like Weber, SUU and Utah need to make these sort of 'dates' with major college football programs. It is how the little schools survive, go to a big schools home, get trounced and earn a paycheck. BYU gets these sort of programs to come into their stadium so they can whoop on them, teams like Akron, Eastern Washington and those types of programs. One day Utah can be just as big as BYU and get a home date with a good school.

  • If You Can
    May 31, 2008 8:37 a.m.

    See if you can get a ticket - who cares - GO COUGARS!!!!

  • Daniel
    May 31, 2008 8:28 a.m.

    Teams with tradition (like the school an hour south) have already played against all the big boys.

  • John
    May 31, 2008 7:48 a.m.

    Yoots will get their fanny's handed to them.

  • AZ: Please check your facts.
    May 31, 2008 7:36 a.m.

    Considering the source, I am not surprised that you don't have your facts straight. The Cougars got drilled in 2003 and 2005 when they went to South Bend to play Notre Dame. So much for "being there and done (won) that."

    However, the Cougars did beat a 6-6 Notre Dame team coached by Ty Willingham in Provo in 2004, which is not the equivalent of beating the Irish in South Bend. That was the highlight of a 5-6 Cougar team that year.

  • One game only?
    May 31, 2008 7:27 a.m.

    Great for the Utes in their aims to play ND!

    My only concern is this one game deal? Take one & one series like other teams in the conference. BYU has done it with USC, ND, and other pretty major programs. A one & one series legitimizes the MWC and Ute football.

    But this is good news.

  • UT Rhyno
    May 31, 2008 7:22 a.m.

    If a game with USU is all that stands in the way of playing the Irish, I say drop the Aggies if they won't move their game. Anyone you would replace USU with on the schedule will almost certainly be a better team anyway.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad
    May 31, 2008 7:18 a.m.

    That is great news, Utah! One way to get around the Mountain and get some national exposure.

  • Re: AZ Coug
    May 31, 2008 6:58 a.m.

    Have the Cougar defensive backs been discharged from the hospital after recovering from multiple broken ankles after the last time they played? Brady Quinn appreciates the school record for touchdowns in a single game. His eyes still look like dinner plates when he thinks about how wide open every player on the field was.

  • BCS Buster
    May 31, 2008 6:41 a.m.

    Been there, done (and won) that.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Conejo
    May 31, 2008 4:06 a.m.

    This is a great opportunity for the Utes to make noise nationally. Lets hope the Utes can get the deal done!

  • CougarKeith
    May 31, 2008 1:58 a.m.

    Starting At Michigan this year will be cool, starting out 0-1 isn't, but such is life when you play a top 10 school to kick things off! Congratulations Utah, I hope you get to go to South Bend and learn what it's like to be in the "Almost" same class as BYU.

  • AZ Coug
    May 31, 2008 12:47 a.m.

    Been there, done (and won) that.

  • UtesR#1
    May 31, 2008 12:03 a.m.

    This is great news for the University of Utah! I am so excited to go to South Bend if this deal gets finalized. Go Utes!