Dethroned — Lakers take down Spurs, 100-92, in Western Finals

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  • Re;Jerry West
    May 30, 2008 8:29 p.m.

    It's gotten to crying about trades a team makes. It's that kind of thinking that will never allow a championship in Utah. What else can you cry about, Phil Jacksons suit is the wrong color!.

  • Re:Wow Mike
    May 30, 2008 8:26 p.m.

    Dude, Mike brings up a great point, don't cry when your own player was 7 times more guilty of getting to the free throw line. Talk about superstar status.

  • Jerry West
    May 30, 2008 7:21 p.m.

    Who wouldn't want the guy the made the most rediculous trade in the NBA (Gasol for two rolls of toilet paper and a Janitor to clean the Arena)present the trophy he got it for them. That said the only team that raised concern to the league when the trade went down was the Spurs. Everyone else was mum. Shame on them.

  • re: re:Not a Jazz fan
    May 30, 2008 4:55 p.m.

    Those street corner dates aren't legal. Get a life.

  • Jazzsmack
    May 30, 2008 4:16 p.m.

    LIke I have said many times before, if you want to win championship you do not build it around a high scoring power forward (altough in this case duncan is really a center, F/C if you want to get technical).

    This why the Jazz have never won a championship and will never win one.

    There system is design to win regualr season games NOT championships

    Over twenty years the system has proven what it can and cannot do.


  • RE:Not a Jazz Fan
    May 30, 2008 4:13 p.m.

    Are you saying Black superstars don't like being around white people?

    How do you know? Are you just too racist to realize your own racism?

  • Not a Jazz Fan
    May 30, 2008 3:54 p.m.

    I feel fine. How can you take a nap in Utah with so much going on???

    Seen the skit...not really funny, but then again, SNL hasn't been in a few years.

    At least I know what you do saturday nites. I get dates. Late...and I'll be gone soon. Think a wagon train is strolling through soon.

  • RE:Not a Jazz Fan
    May 30, 2008 3:31 p.m.

    Do you feel better now? It sounds like you've been holding on to that a little too long. You sound like you need a nap.

    You should watch the SNL skit called: " Find the Black People at the Knick Game" It will give you a good laugh. Something you haven't done in a while.

    I'm sorry you've been forced to live in Utah for one reason or another.

    Believe me when I say I don't want you here as bad as you don't want to be here.

  • Wow Mike
    May 30, 2008 2:54 p.m.

    Your knowledge of the game of basketball really is quite astounding. I look forward to your next column.

  • Not a Jazz Fan
    May 30, 2008 2:54 p.m.

    "Jerry West shipped Gasol to the Lakers", "The Evil Ones Got to the finals", "Larry gave Fisher to the Lakers" and "I can't believe I'm rooting for Boston or Detroit"...what a state of whiners who can only relate to church ball and the fact that the Jazz actually were able to beat the Lakers twice in the playoffs (barely)...your team is taught by Jerry Sloan to be aggressive and foul, they can't play defense with their feet so they do it with slow hacks, you have a State and City that no self respecting super star wants to go (look at your crowds...lilly white..not one person of color...NBA superstars are by and large not a match with this demographic. Maybe if you had a beach, good year round weather, some decent restaurants, clubs, museums, and weren't soooooo worried about the "fakers"...learn from LA...we don't say "BEAT UTAH!, BEAT UTAH!"...we don't worry about any other team or city. We let you hick losers worry about us. But you won't learn. The refs had it in for you, but Kobe had 11 foul shots in 5 games...you gave him 86 in 6. thanks.

  • Mike W
    May 30, 2008 2:00 p.m.

    Speaking of conspiracies and how everyone is out to screw the Jazz, how is it Kobe has led the league in free throw attempts ONE time... Michael Jordan? ONE time... Karl Malone? SEVEN times... who's getting the benefit of the calls over the years? Jazz conspiracy theorists would best be advised to shut up.

  • jazz fan
    May 30, 2008 1:38 p.m.

    i think the jazz would have beaten the spurs in 5 or 6 games they dont look anywhere near as good as they were last year but oh well, the jazz at least gave the lakers a series

    go jazz

  • Mike W
    May 30, 2008 1:32 p.m.

    No, I don't see how West would have influenced Memphis to make that deal... I think you're a little too paranoid Sokol. I don't see any Jazz fans admitting the Korver trade was a blatant stealing just like Gasol was, why is that?

    Yes, the NBA does resemble professional wrestling with it's feeling of being rigged, but the Jazz and Karl Malone benefitted from suspect officiating for many many years too, more than most other teams at least.

  • Stick to church ball
    May 30, 2008 1:26 p.m.

    The Jazz play like a bad church ball team. Too many fouls and slow white guys.

  • Excuses . .
    May 30, 2008 1:25 p.m.

    I don't want to hear it! What have you guys won? As a fan you should always play the humble card until you have won some hardware. LA is a confident city and the people are confident. We boo the other team even when we sent them packing. This isn't Boise! WE give no love to opoosing teams and that's the way we get things done.

  • Conspiricy
    May 30, 2008 1:15 p.m.

    The Lakers demolished the Spurs 4-1 even when the Spurs were up by 17 everyone knew including the Spurs they couldn't hang with the Lakers. If this is fixed they would have played it all the way to the 7th game. Jazz fans get over it, you don't have a good team and the Lakers do. You sound like a bunch of hicks still looking for Big foot. I know he's out there, it's just a government cover up!.

  • Never heard of such crybabies
    May 30, 2008 1:10 p.m.

    So the Lakers have made some good trades so what. You want fouls called on Kobe, you don't want to get called for fouls, you don't want anyone to make a trade in the NBA, you want refs to always be on your side even when your the most fouling team in the NBA. What next, how bout if the Lakers just stay at home and forfiet to the Jazz, would that be better.

  • RE:jazz fan the truth
    May 30, 2008 1:03 p.m.

    The truth is no one really wanted Fisher, D Williams was going to get Fisher's money any way. Larry did the right thing. Get over it, your team fouls too much. If you watched the Laker/Spurs series neither team fouled half as much as the Jazz.

  • Sokol
    May 30, 2008 12:52 p.m.

    Come off it, you don't think that West influenced
    the Griz...The NBA smells like professional wrestling.

  • Mike W
    May 30, 2008 12:33 p.m.

    Jerry West no longer works with Memphis, he quit in 2007 before this season even started... he had NOTHING to do with Memphis' decision to trade Gasol, that is new GM Chris Wallace's doing...

  • Jerry West
    May 30, 2008 12:26 p.m.

    Wrong....Jerry West no longer works for the Memphis Grizzlies!

    The new tradition is to have a player great present the trophy.

    Jazz fans are such whiners!!

  • Strangebedfellow
    May 30, 2008 11:21 a.m.

    I'm with NBA Cynic! For the first time in my life I was actually cheering for the Spurs!

    Jazz are obviously the 2nd best. The 2008-09 season should be great one for the Jazz. They have great talent- but not enough drive and confidence. The Korver trade pumped life into them. They need leadership in confidence most of all. Sloan is on the right road but suppresses egos a bit too much. Maybe they can pull off a 08-09 season with home court advantage in the playoffs and be above the "head" games. After all, this is PRO ball.

  • Jerry West
    May 30, 2008 11:06 a.m.

    Spoke at the end of the game. He works for the Memphis Grizzlies, who traded Gasol to the Lakers.

    I find that very odd...

  • Phil VS Jerry
    May 30, 2008 10:56 a.m.

    I don't buy tha Phil outcoaches Jery. Phil Jackson wins championships because he has had the best player in the league on his championship teams. Michael, Shaq, now Kobe. What has he done won that talent left. Nothing at all. Jerry on the other hand has gotten maxim effort with minimum talent. that is starting to change now. We have talented good young core that is pretty deep. We wont get talent Via free agency so we have to be patient. Fisher is a prime example, daughter or not Fish wanted out of Utah, Booz will probably do us like he did clevland. Kevin O'conner and Jerry can do nothing but rely on drafts so far we are doing alright. D-Will, Almond and Fes will work out just fine for the Jazz. The only way to get better picks is to suck, do you all want that? At least we have not sufferd through many loosing seasons.

  • Sokol
    May 30, 2008 10:10 a.m.

    The Jazz management and organization get outsmarted
    constantly...with Hornacek and the Fisher fiasco...
    I think Sloan gets outcoached. Why they were not
    prepared for Game 6 is beyond me? I think Kirilenko
    has to go. Another year with the Russian distraction
    is too much. He is a average player with little heart.

    Lastly, the Jazz are a better team than the Lakers.
    They just have lazy big men...ie. Okur and Boozer.

  • Duh
    May 30, 2008 10:06 a.m.

    You guys are all lame. You blame Larry Miller and Jerry Sloan for all of Utah's woes, but forget that the Jazz have been a very successful team through 20 years with a cast of mediocre players. The Jazz have always played above their talent level due to the fact that Jerry Sloan runs a smart system. Utah will never win a big trade with a superstar because no one wants to come to Utah. If you get rid of Sloan, I can guarantee we'll go a decade without even making the playoffs. The Lakers wouldn't have gotten past the first round if Jerry West wouldn't have sabotaged Memphis and gave Pau Gasol away to the Lakers.

  • brerabbit
    May 30, 2008 9:52 a.m.

    And any team that has a protected superstar will always win the title. Did you notice the foul that nearly knocked Ginobily to the floor at the end of game 4 that would have sent him to the foul line for 3 and possibly the win, and then there was the "foul on the elbow" of Kolby near the end of game 5. Give me a break. Jordan and Bryant can't get to the basket unless they hook their defender with their elbow to get that first step and the foul. I do not discredit their superior athletic ability. It is good enough that they don't need help from the officials to score,

  • RE: JAZZ FAN (THE TRUTH)
    May 30, 2008 9:18 a.m.

    Yes I agree with you Larry does deserve to get lit up!! he was the one who let Derek go without any compensation when he could have traded him to make sure he didn't end up with a rival. I thought Jerry's comment about the lakers getting some gifts, Derek and Gasol was a telling comment. Jerry wasn't to happy. Larry are you getting a ring from LA if they win a championship? That has to go down as one of the greatest assists of all time. Maybe we should be considered LA's farm team. Maybe Memphis will get some rings as well. Jazz fan are you telling me that the Jazz and there fouling issue isn't related to coaching?? Maybe we should be like the Hornets and Spurs and not put Kobe on the line a billion times. Unfortunately we foul and get into the bonus to early and that is killing us. I'll say this about Jerry, he's had plenty of time to prove everyone wrong. It's time for some new blood. Jerry's had the pieces, he just hasn't made them work like Phil. Farmer? Walton? Sasha? Radmonovich? Rodman? Brian Williams? Yeah Jerry would make them better players!

  • NBA Cynic
    May 30, 2008 8:54 a.m.

    I used to love the NBA - season ticket holder, etc. But it has become so obvious in the new media era that the referees decide games it has not become fun anymore. It was obvious months ago the NBA wanted a Celtics/Lakers finals - and SURPRISE - that's what they will have. They even admitted the no-call on Fisher was wrong - but too late - they have their precious Lakers in the finals - Carlos Boozer needs to take some aggression training courses or something to get a little meaner! Deron Williams is a stud - the bright spot for the Jazz. Hopefully he will be in Utah for a long long time.

  • Lakers 29 times/benjamin
    May 30, 2008 8:44 a.m.

    29 times they have gone to the finals, good to know the forces of evil are alive and well.

  • Jazz Fan (The Original)
    May 30, 2008 8:38 a.m.

    Message to Give'Em Credit & Re:rvalens2, and all you other bash Jerry Sloan, et.al.
    You guys are bashing Larry Miller; he is the boss. Get your heads out! You cannot make a major trade that will impact the Jazz with significant players coming to play in Utah....get a clue. The Jazz can tweek the roster and drop players like Collins, Hart, et al. But to get major players into Utah....no way. Give it up about Sloan and the coaching staff. They are doing the best with the tools they have. You actually think that the failure of Boozer in the playeroffs was the Jazz coaching fault? That is ludicrous thinking. The league doesn't want small market teams to advance....get it? Calls and no calls influence games. Not withstanding this refereeing behavior, the fact remains, the Jazz have to work their butts off to win against superior talent on other teams. If they can keep the core of their current roster together, they can make more runs. The other teams around the league that have the athletes will also improve. What do you naysayers think about other teams failures...as to their coaching? Come on, wake up, and support the Jazz?

  • benjamin
    May 30, 2008 7:56 a.m.

    another victory for the forces of evil! How can it be I find myself cheering for either Boston or Detroit?

  • Spurs
    May 30, 2008 7:39 a.m.

    I'm a Jazz fan that's glad the Lakers beat the Spurs, because we wouldn't have. Everyone hated the Lakers here, but it's the Spurs that have bee killing us the past 20 years.

  • re:rvalens2
    May 30, 2008 7:05 a.m.

    No chance for the Jazz to reach the finals as long as Sloan is your infallible coach.
    He will always be outcoached by Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich. Don't forget the road to the finals goes through San Antonio and LA.
    And what makes you think that the Rockets,Blazers,Suns and Hornets will all roll the red carpet for the Jazz? You know these teams will amass talents before the Jazz do.

  • samhill
    May 30, 2008 6:47 a.m.

    I wish he could have done it here, but I'm happy for Derek Fisher's good chance at a championship. Something that, despite also going to the Lakers, Karl Malone never got.

    Good going Lakers and congratulations Derek!

  • Giv'em credit!
    May 30, 2008 6:23 a.m.

    Yes, I am a Jazzfan, but sportmanship is the rule here. I've gotta give it to the Lakers organization. They know how to build a winning combination through their draft picks(Farmar,Vujacic,Turiaf,Bynum,Kobe),trades(Odom,Gasol...), free agents and a Championship minded coach. They beat the best team in the NBA by a convincing margin (4-1).
    I really wish the Jazz could learn something from them.
    Unfortunately for us Jazzfans, we'll continue to envy other teams so long as we continue to believe Sloan is the franchise messiah, and that the best trade is no trade philosophy of the Jazz.
    Next year,we have an other year of O'Connor and Sloan's antics, which means another year of failure, that's for sure.

  • rvalens2
    May 30, 2008 2:17 a.m.

    Though it's of little consolation, in retrospect, at least the Jazz managed to win 2 games against the Lakers.

    Denver lost four in a row and now San Antonio is history having won only 1 game. With a little improvement, hopefully it will be the Jazz next year in the Finals.

  • JazzLover
    May 30, 2008 1:16 a.m.

    The Lakers have only lost 3 times during the entire playoffs. Two of those loses were to the Jazz. I think this says a lot about the Jazz. All I know is, Go Celtics or Pistons!