Obama revamping birth control policy

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    Pagan?

    "don't RESTRICT the option of choice from American's...

    Who's restricting? Just don't want to pay for it.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 1:29 p.m.

    Mr. Obama campaigned for 18 months from April 2007 to Oct. 2008 to reform health care; he won and he delivered what the people wanted. No surprises.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 11:43 a.m.

    Re: alt134
    If the President has the power to force the citizens to buy something then where would you draw the line? You act as if the House is irrelevent to these kind of laws, and furthermore, that it should be. The House is truly the representative of the people at the most basic level of federal government. If you don't see that or agree with that, then yes, one would believe you would rather have government by dictatorial rule. Fine if he is your dictator, but what will you think if a Republican President comes in and imposes his law on something you are opposed to? You've got to look a bit more long term before signing off on My President Obama can't do no wrong.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 10, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    worf

    Obama didn't write the healthcare bill. Congress did.
    Republicans (until they quit) and Democrats in Congressional committees worked for many months on drafting the healthcare bill.

    Actually, the contraceptive coverage mandate is not new. A majority of states, as well as all federal employees have contraceptive coverage as s part of their healthcare coverage. What is new is that contraceptive coverage not have a deductible.

    Time for the U.S. Conf. of Bishops to embrace modern medicine which saves lives.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    'If you want an abortion... go get it. But DON'T force me or religious institutions to pay for it against our religious beliefs.' - 2 bits | 10:19 a.m. Feb. 10, 2012

    Along this same train of thought if you don't like birth control...

    don't RESTRICT the option of choice from American's...

    to buy it.

    Otherwise, we have situations like this:

    *'Judge releases beaten teen, citing state's abortion law' - By Emiley Morgan - Published by DSNews - 10/14/09

    'A 17-year-old girl who paid a man to beat her in the hopes of terminating her pregnancy has been...' - article

    This x17 year old girl.

    Who factually did NOT have access to birth control, was told she could not get an abortion (she could, but didn't)...

    and paid a man to BEAT her, until she lost the pregnancy.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    @procuradorfiscal
    Actually it kinda is free and the insurance companies will want to provide them. Why? Because covering pregnancies is more expensive. There's a cost-cutting incentive. (And if there is a little bit of leftover cost then that means the people who aren't part of the exempt group would be paying a couple bucks more in premiums).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:49 a.m.

    @A1994
    "Whether you believe contraception is a health issue or not, having the federal government MANDATE that a church has to provide coverage for contraception is an infringment of the bill of rights. "

    28 states already had this policy in place from Massachusetts to Georgia.

    @2bits
    Abortion isn't involved here...

    @Mountanman
    "Who gave him the power to force Americans to buy anything?"

    The 55% of people who supported the birth control policy?

    "This is how dictators get power"

    *Yawn* Typical conservative hyperbole while Obama goes and plays the adult in the room and gets a resolution to this issue before the House even gets around to voting on it.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    When Obama took office, he immediately pushed the health car bill. How in a short amount of time, could he write thousands of pages of health care? It must have been written prior to the election, and he was simply the messenger.

    I don't think he knew about this birth control policy or have read the entire contents of the bill.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:40 a.m.

    A1994, I think you have the part about Obamas power for the second term, but then he might throw out the Constitution and declare him and his cronies president for life. How is that for scary.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    A1994
    "The government has no right to mandate this on the churches."

    Churches are exempt from the healthcare mandate, but not all religiously affiliated institutions are exempt.

    Furthermore, there's no constitutional mandate that churches be tax exempt or not be required to make financial reports public either.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    Re: "Obama revamping birth control policy"

    Yeah -- to make it worse!

    Just for the record -- there's no such thing as free birth control or abortion pills. Someone has to pay for them, and it won't be the insurance companies.

    It'll be you and me and everyone who buys insurance -- including the Catholic Church and others whose beliefs are violated thereby.

    As usual, what is touted by socialist secularists as a generous offer to "compromise" is actually a disingenuous, insulting, my-way-or-the-highway assault on religion and decency.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:29 a.m.

    So very many of you people are missing the most important point here! Who does Obama think he is? Who gave him the power to force Americans to buy anything? This has nothing to do with women's health, its about your freedom! If Obama has no consitutional authority whatseever to force insurance companies or anyone else to buy ANYTHING! This is how dictators get power, increntally claiming is for our own good. Our grand parent would never have put up with this and neither should we!

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:24 a.m.

    Article--"instead will demand that insurance companies will be the ones directly responsible for providing free contraception."

    This seems like a back-down on the President's part but basically the institutions providing their employees with insurance will still be the ones made to pay, Catholic or otherwise, as there is no way the insurance companies will absorb the cost. They will pass the cost on in some way.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:19 a.m.

    I think a woman should have the right to choose if she will get an abortion or not. That's her decision and she will be responsible for the eternal consequences.

    But having the RIGHT to choose is not the issue here. That's already been decided in the courts (Row V Wade). The issue here is who PAYS for your abortion.

    A woman has the right to choose to have an abortion, but that choice should cary some responsibility (like paying for it or carrying insurance that will pay for it). Religious institutions where abortion is strictly against their beliefs should NOT be forced to pay for abortions. I should not be forced to pay for abortions (where I think the practice of abortion as abhorant and against everything Christ taught). I have no problem with insurance companies paying for abortions (that's THEIR decision). But I do have a problem with the government FORCING people to not follow their religious beliefs... and provide/pay for abortions. That was already made law by Congress BTW (that tax payers don't have to fund abortions). Look it up. There are already laws that prevent the Fed government from funding abortions with tax dollars (because it's against so many American's religious beliefs).

    If the American people feel so strongly about this that it's against the law for the Federal Government to fund abortions... the Federal Government should not be able to FORCE the people and institutions of faith that abhore abortions to pay for them.

    If you want an abortion... go get it. But DON'T force me or religious institutions to pay for it against our religious beliefs.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    Okay. For those of you who can't wrap your head around why churches are so angry about this, here it is: Whether you believe contraception is a health issue or not, having the federal government MANDATE that a church has to provide coverage for contraception is an infringment of the bill of rights. The government has no right to mandate this on the churches.

    If Obama gets a second term, I think even a lot of his most ardent supporters will be stunned by the power grabs that will take place. With no worry about re-election, this guy is going to go crazy on the Constitution.

  • Rufio Saratoga, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    "We believe the compliance mechanism does not compromise a woman's ability to access these critical birth control benefits"

    Why is this a 'woman' only issue? Should all birth control be available free? Is that not a couple's decision on not left up to the woman only?

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    This is how the system should work. It should be flexible enough for compromises to be made.

  • Sutton Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    The worst thing Obama could do is cave to the Christaban...

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    Churches who receive one dollar from the US government for schools and hospitals should know there are strings attached; churches should not depend on the government for money and then complain about the mixing of doctrine and the state.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    'I would be so ticked if I voted for Obama. He proposed this huge agenda and made gigantic promises...
    and has flaked and folded on almost all of them when it threatened his re-electability.' - CottageCheese | 9:38 a.m. Feb. 10, 2012

    Promise:
    *'Obama HRC Speech: "I Will End Don't Ask, Don't Tell," Says President Obama' - By CHRISTINE SIMMONS - Huffington Post - 10/10/09

    Delivery:
    *'Obama signs 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal' - By Pauline Jelinek - AP - Published by DSnews - 12/22/10

    Promise:
    *'Obama to pull combat troops from Iraq by August 2010' - CNN - 02/26/09

    Delivery:
    *'Last U.S. combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/19/10

    Bonus:

    **'Obama marks Iraq wars end with salute to troops' - by Erica Werner - AP - Published by DSNews - 12/14/11

    **'Osama bin Laden Killed: 'Justice Is Done,' President Says' - By DEAN SCHABNER - ABC News - 05/01/2011

    So, CC are you saying you would rather have access to birth control instead of...

    the death of Osama Bin Laden, 14,000 more troops in the military, and the end of the war in Iraq?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    @CottageCheese
    It's not a flipflop if he still got what he wanted, just in a way that is more agreeable to the opposition. Flipping would be completely scrapping the plan and opposing it. Flopping would be then going back to supporting it.

    As for his huge agenda and folding on parts of it... that's largely because we have a legislature and getting things through them is oftentimes the hard part. Whhy would I want someone like him in the white house? Because the economy is getting better (23 straight months of job growth), wars are winding down (no Yemen and Libya are not comparable to Iraq/Afghanistan, we hadn't even deployed any troops or lost any in those two), and I think the Republicans plans are more of the same garbage that got us into this economic mess to begin with.

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:38 a.m.

    I would be so ticked if I voted for Obama. He proposed this huge agenda and made gigantic promises...

    and has flaked and folded on almost all of them when it threatened his re-electability.

    Why on earth would we want someone like this in the white house?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    28 states already had the original plan in place, some Catholic universities already offer contraceptin coverage, and 52% of Catholics supported the original plan (vs about 40% opposed since some were undecided). Nevertheless, Obama is the adult in the room and while everyone else was parading outrage to cameras he got a solution reached.

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Political Pandering by President Obama!?

    Fliiiiiiiip Flooooooop!

  • Utexmom Flower Mound, TX
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    Because Obama is up for re-election this year he is changing this law. But just wait - if he gets a second term all heck will break loose.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    I don't under stand the up roar about this. 99% sexually active women interviewed by the CDC between 2006-2008 have used birth control in their lives and 63 percent currently used some form of birth control. Who is so angry about this?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    **'Romney Maintained Massachusetts Contraception Requirement That Mirrors Obamas Rule' - By Igor Volsky - Think Progress - 02/07/12

    'In 2002 the very same year Romney campaigned for governor of Massachusetts the state enacted a contraceptive equity law that REQUIRED insurers that provide outpatient benefits to cover hormone replacement therapy and ALL FDA-approved contraceptive methods.' article

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    If Obama can control schools, why not churches?