We honor U.S. soldiers but don't help them heal

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  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2012 7:57 p.m.

    Has one city in Utah had a special parade for returning Iraq veterans or are we content to treat them like Viet Nam war veterans?

    Do we talk the talk but not walk the walk?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    cjb | 10:28 p.m. Feb. 9, 2012
    Bountiful, UT



    The Rich have always sent to Poor in to do the dirty work for them.
    The least they could do PAY for it!

    If class warfare ever gets bloody,
    It will be the Poor rising up against the Rich - literally.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    'We would rather protect tax cuts for the very wealthy, than refrain from nickel and diming our soldiers.' - cjb | 10:28 p.m. Feb. 9, 2012

    THANK you!

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:28 p.m.

    If lip service is honor, todays soldiers get an lots of honor.

    If honor means not using benefits we give to retired soldiers as a national piggy bank, then our honoring them is hollow.

    We would rather protect tax cuts for the very wealthy, than refrain from nickel and diming our soldiers.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Feb. 9, 2012 8:32 p.m.

    It's not news that 154,000 veterans are homeless on a given night, the GOP says let them rot, and won't give them any entitlements, as they call them, today to honor U.S. soldiers, people that never served say "thank you for your service," but when we came home from the Vietnam war, all they did was spit in our faces without a parade either. Because of drinking and drugs from that war, 60 percent of Vietnam veterans "were psychiatric casualties. In 1978, over 400,000 Vietnam veterans were in prison, on parole, on probation, or awaiting trial." The problem, it says, is that societies have long depended on men to be "disposable for the greater good" to fight war and to take on the dangerous and extremely physical jobs deemed essential for a nation's progress. Today we still get no respect for fighting the JF Kennedy war either. While at the VA we may get that "thank you for your service," but not all the time. In todays culture that believes men are disposable will honor their disposability with monuments, but not care for them once they've served their purpose. I'm that Veteran, I know very well.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Utah have one of the highest percentage of voter support of the Iraq war in the nation?

    Lots of American Flag lapel buttons and We support our troops bumper stickers.

    Public interest stories in the media of the troops leaving and coming home.

    Did I miss something?

    Has one city in Utah had a welcome home parade for the returning veterans of the Iraq conflict? I believe St. Louis is the only city in the entire United States to have a welcome home parade.

    Returning veterans from Viet Nam complained about their reception at home is it really any difference for our Iraq veterans?

    Or maybe it is to be expected as Utah had one of the lowest percentage in the nation of its youth enrolled in the armed forces.

    Maybe "We talk the talk but we do not walk the walk."

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 1:41 p.m.

    As a veteran myself,

    I'm trying to imagine which is worse....

    Being spit on when you get home,
    Being completely ignored?

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 9, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    Great article. It's really sickening when people sweep soldiers under the rug when they come out and say what a fraud the war on terror truly is. They also act like they don't exist if they come home with missing anatomy or severe mental problems. Soldiers don't even have benefits anymore thanks to our chickenhawk government.

    Ron Paul has got more Military Donations than any other candidate combined. The candidate that wants to bring all the troops everywhere home. This should tell everybody what a total fraud the war on terror is. This is about stealing oil, growing drugs, and overthrowing governments.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    Efforts to help veterans.

    On one side:

    **'Senate Republicans Block Defense Bill, 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' Repeal' - By MATTHEW JAFFE and DEVIN DWYER - ABC News - 09/21/10

    That's right.

    The Republican party voted against the ENTIRE military defense bill...

    rather than allow openly gay service.

    September, 2010.

    On the other side:

    **'Obama to promote ways for veterans to find work' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/07/11

    Obama advocates to business' to hire veterans and create American jobs.

    Your choice.

  • Jory payson, utah
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    First of all, everyone is having trouble finding jobs. Its just not the veterans.

    Second of all, not all jobs in the military transfer to the civilian world. When I got out, I couldn't find a job. Its not like any civilian job was looking for a person who can set up an L-shape ambush, or who has a 100% accuracy with an M-16 from 500 meters. I had to go to college and get a good skill set. I am not talking about one in Philosophy or Poetry. I am talking a skill set that is marketable. That is what they need to do. I agree the "leadership" skills military members are good, but that needs adapting as well. YOu cant telly our subordinates to stop being sissys and get back to work like you can in the military. Most cases when you get a job, you start at the bottom where you don't need leadership skills. They are hiring you to do a specific job. If you can't do that specific job then you are screwed.

    Just because someone is a Veteran, I am not going to hire them. They will get put in front of the line. But they need to prove that they will provide more of a benefit then what the cost is to hire them.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    Very timely piece, Lois. This is one of those things that isn't popular to say, but we need to hear it all the same. It's easy to put a yellow ribbon on your car and say you support the troops. It's harder to back it up with real actions. Many seem to equate support for any military action, even of questionable merit, with support for the troops. We often forget the very high human costs of war. It's more than just casualties and injuries. There are homes left fatherless, issues of suicide, problems of adjusting to normal life. In addition to offering up money and time for programs, as you suggest, I think there are a few other things we can do to "support the troops":

    -Don't support any military action not essential to the defense of the United States
    -Demand that if fighting is needed, Congress make a formal declaration of war. Rebuke any who would cede that power to one person, as Congress has done in shirking it's Constitutional duty in allowing Presidents to declare the war, I believe we would fight fewer wars this way
    -Always remember their sacrifice and the human costs of war