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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 9:51 p.m.

    "The Tea Party Republicans want America to FAIL!

    They want Obama out of office more than a succesful America."

    Have you considered that wanting America to succeed and wanting Obama to fail are one and the same?

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    per LDS Liberal 8:56 a.m. Feb. 7, 2012

    Yet, in the next breath, they claim the US is the proverbial light on the hill. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

    per RedShirt 12:17 p.m. Feb. 7, 2012

    Both parties are to blame as well as lobbyists, bureaucrats, Wall St, the Ivy League spawns who make the lions ahare of employees of these groups.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:06 p.m.

    Lds Liberal

    I would rather go all the way back to 1776 than be in 1984. Good novel and many don't understand it's the blueprint for gadiantons to operate.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 7:35 a.m.

    Some, in their eagerness to tout the impact government has on the economy, missed the point entirely. The author touted the resiliency of a free enterprise system despite the affects of government, not because of it.

    The government is like the wind to a golfer. The wind never helps you as much as you hope for but it always hurts you more than you expect. Negative impacts of government always outweigh the positive.

    This administration has drug out this recovery far longer than it needed to be. The irony is that Obama apologists are now reveling in the upward trend of the economy without even realizing they would have been able to have this moment two years ago with someone else in charge.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" you are wrong. It is the liberals that are directly responsible for the collapse of the US.

    You cannot take money out of the hands of the people to fuel an ever expanding government and welfare state, and expect there to be money left over for the type of spending that spurs the economy.

    If the Democrats were capable of getting the country to prosper, why is it that we are now 2 1/2 years out from the end of the recession and the economy still has not recovered? The average time when Republicans were in charge resulted in 18 month recovery times.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 7, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    Of course they say the economy is booming. They won't tell you the truth because they don't want massive civil unrest before the economy finally implodes.

  • Earl Sandy, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    @ LDS Liberal: whatever.

    Here's what we can do without: the Federal Reserve banking system that laid the groundwork (under the "majestic" oversight of Greenspan and Bernanke) for the colossal boom and subsequent bust because of easy money made out of nowhere. The DN editors contradict themselves when they talk about "quantitative easing" in one paragraph and "free economies" in the next. They're mutually exclusive concepts. Either you have huge intervention like QE1 or QE2, or you have free economies. Which is it? Such interventions have only postponed and exacerbated the inevitable and coming collapse, and did NOT save us from ourselves like they want you to believe.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 11:12 a.m.

    Earl | 9:23 a.m. Feb. 7, 2012
    Sandy, UT
    Certainly the government plays an important role in the economy: the more they intervene, the worse they make it. So yes, the government can do something to help by getting their fingers out of picking winners and losers, and by enforcing legal contracts and regulations. If they'd done that from the get-go, we wouldn't be where we are now.

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    You are right, we wouldn't be where we are now!

    Who needs those pesky highways, powerplants, computers, Surgical Procedures, Colleges, Universities, Radio, TV, the InterNet, National Security, Science, Technology, ect.!

    I hate it when Government does things!

    Can only be another one of those "patriots" yearning to go back to 1776!

  • Earl Sandy, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Certainly the government plays an important role in the economy: the more they intervene, the worse they make it. So yes, the government can do something to help by getting their fingers out of picking winners and losers, and by enforcing legal contracts and regulations. If they'd done that from the get-go, we wouldn't be where we are now.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    First of all we don't know the unemployment rates nor have I ever seen a comprehensive, intelligent attempt to estimate it. All we appear to have is a combined record of those claiming unemployment benefits, that is those who have applied for it and obtained it and have not yet exhausted the maximum for the state in which they live

    The history of the Great Depression of the Thirties indicates that the USA, because of excessive meddling in the economy will take longer to recover than much of the rest of the world.

    Then I must express joy for those still in work who are buying their first home, for prices have rarely been better for buyers.

    Finally I would add that, as an LDS believer, I accept the principle that prosperity, including temporal prosperity, is linked with collective righteousness, but when societies become corrupt, their riches prove slippery. That doesn't mean, however, that every poor or struggling, man, woman or family, is unrighteous. Some of these may be there to see how people will respond to their dilemmas.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    The Tea Party Republicans want America to FAIL!

    They want Obama out of office more than a succesful America.

    Sad when they put what's good for Party Politics ahead of what's good for the entire nation.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    You worry about the mixed signals business gets from DC, but you don't look at the mixed signals the elderly, and near elderly are getting: will I have health care when I need it or not? If the Tea Party gets its way the answer will be no. What do you think?"

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 7, 2012 7:47 a.m.

    So you are saying that Washington plays an important role in the economy. Now go and get your favorite GOP candidates to admit it. Right now they say government should have no role, while at the same time telling us that if elected they will turn around the economy. Confused, to say the least, right?